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  ChickenAdobo on 30/04/2019 - 22:16

  I rather go to the Ryzen 3500U laptop from Amazon US for under 1K.

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    virtual81 on 01/05/2019 - 11:28

    +1

    Why did this comment get downvotes?
    Whilst i might not agree, seeing others ideas can lead to interesting thought and discussion.
    Do me a favor and give this guy up-votes.

    Me personally, i lean toward intel at the moment, but i can't deny much longer that AMD are making good progress.
    Not a fan of buying high $ items from the US, but can't rule it out.
    This guy might just be onto something useful.

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      ChickenAdobo on 01/05/2019 - 12:31

      It doesn't bother me anymore with the downvote. There will be always be downvoter but I appreciate your concern. Thanks mate.

      Here the link for the laptop I'm referring to: Lenovo Flex 14 2-in-1 Convertible Laptop, 14 Inch FHD (1920 X 1080) Touchscreen Display, AMD Ryzen 5 3500U Processor, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB NVMe SSD, Windows 10, 81SS0005US, Black $916 AUD

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        Perth027 on 02/05/2019 - 14:39

        +1

        This would be like comparing the Dell Latitude/ XPS to a Inspiron. Sure you can get a higher speced Inspiron for much less money. But XPS and Latitudes would have significantly better build quality (and a more premium feel to them). ThinkPads are designed to be absolute bricks and are MIL-spec tested and are extremely tough. There are reddit posts about ThinkPads functioning just fine after a car drove over it.

        You won't get that solid build quality with the Flex.

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      eug on 01/05/2019 - 12:35

      +1

      Why did this comment get downvotes?

      I didn't downvote, but I think it's because he's comparing a cheap consumer laptop to a flagship business-grade laptop. If you only look at the specs then the Ryzen one is a better deal, but there's more to a laptop than just specs.

      It's probably a bit like going into a Galaxy S9/S10 deal post and saying I'd rather get a Pocophone F1. There's more to a device than just the specs.

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  DonWilson on 30/04/2019 - 22:18

  Considering you can get a refurb Lenovo Yoga 530 w/ i5 8250U, 8GB & 512GB nVME, touchscreen for < $800 (for the next 2 hours) this seems poor value. I mean, it's clearly better. But is it double the price better?

  -edit- apparently that's already sold out. So I guess this is good? I guess?

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    Perch on 30/04/2019 - 22:21

    Link to that?

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      DonWilson on 30/04/2019 - 22:29

      Graysonline had the above specced laptops on Ebay for I think $785 delivered with the PCLICK code. Helped a friend order one about 7 hours ago. As my edit says - appears to no longer be an option.

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      DonWilson on 30/04/2019 - 22:33

      +4

      Oh wait, still available. Ebay's browse and search ability is terrible.

      https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-Yoga-530-14-FHD-Touch-i5-…

      $787.20 delivered

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        Perch on 30/04/2019 - 22:42

        +1

        Damn that is great value. Worth posting as a deal (for an hour..)? More than 10 available

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          DonWilson on 30/04/2019 - 22:43

          +1

          @Perch: Go for it. I'm way too drunk.

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            Georgie K on 01/05/2019 - 00:31

            @DonWilson: Good for drunk mind @%

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        linkii on 30/04/2019 - 22:56

        +1

        It is alot cheaper, but you do realise its a completely different laptop right?

        This is a thinkpad (business grade build quality with over $2.4k RRP) whereas the one you linked is a 530 (consumer grade build quality with a 1.15k rrp).

        https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/yoga/yoga-500-series/Yo…
        https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/Thi…

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          DonWilson on 30/04/2019 - 22:56

          -1

          @linkii: Yes, yes I do. Otherwise why would I say:

          I mean, it's clearly better. But is it double the price better?

          ???

          -edit- why do you think I didn't downvote this? Charity?

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            eug on 30/04/2019 - 23:47

            @DonWilson: If you're a business person or IT manager, the answer can be a clear yes. You don't want your CEO's laptop to start acting flaky while they're on an overseas trip where you can't just swap it out.

            Normal home users might also like that sort of reliability. It will most likely still be running fine in 10 years time.

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              DonWilson on 30/04/2019 - 23:57

              -1

              @eug: Come on, man. Don't represent this like "X1's don't ever fail". Would they have a lower failure rate of the Yoga 530? Maybe. A little. Probably not since the X1 crams more into a smaller space.

              If you're a business person or IT Manager you're well aware what that space saving extra pricing really means. Often the impressive expensive business laptop with the same power in a smaller package actually means more power, better package, worse cooling, higher fan noise under CPU or GPU load and not uncommonly higher failure rate (packing the same components into smaller spaces has it's problems).

              That said getting a refurb certainly is a concern.

              But again - it's half the price and has double the storage. The only major features it misses out on is the touch pen (not many OzBargainers care about) and the size (relative value).

              I didn't downvote the deal. There is certainly a market for it. Which is why I didn't downvote it. I just don't see it as great value for the vast majority of people seeing the deal.

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                eug on 01/05/2019 - 00:06

                @DonWilson:

                Come on, man. Don't represent this like "X1's don't ever fail".

                Surely you're aware of the difference between consumer laptops and business laptops? Especially ThinkPads?

                Often the impressive expensive business laptop with the same power in a smaller package actually means more power, better package, worse cooling, higher fan noise under CPU or GPU load and not uncommonly higher failure rate (packing the same components into smaller spaces has it's problems).

                So by that reasoning, the Yoga 530 that you linked to will fail sooner because of its higher-heat GeForce MX130 compared to the business laptop's integrated Intel 620 graphics? edit: the X1 Yoga (333x229x17.05mm) is in fact a little bit smaller (1.6%) than the Yoga 530 (328x229x17.6mm). But the MX130 is packing a lot more power than the Intel 620.

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                  DonWilson on 01/05/2019 - 00:16

                  @eug: Have… have you mathed?

                  Yoga 530 = 328x229x17.6 = 1,321,971.2

                  Yoga X1 = 333x229x17.05 = 1,300,181.85

                  OK, ignoring the fact you didn't bother to multiply the numbers you listed together that's actually a pretty good point. I honestly just assumed the X1 was much thinner than the Yoga 530.

                  I concede, the X1 is likely more reliable.

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                    eug on 01/05/2019 - 09:54

                    @DonWilson:

                    Have… have you mathed?

                    Looks like my estimation with 7-digit numbers is off by more than 1.6%. :)

                    I concede, the X1 is likely more reliable.

                    Probably just about any IT dept who has dealt with home laptops as well as higher-end ThinkPads would have come to the same conclusion. The fact that this laptop passed MIL-STD 810G tests would certainly count for something too.

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                Changskies on 01/05/2019 - 00:39

                @DonWilson: …? Thats procurement and finance's job, not IT managers. IT managers rather have less downtime, taking less heat from C levels PC failing, allocation of resources to needed areas. But to your point - consumer wont really care! Source: mates dog's wifes owners cousin's fiance's is IT manager.

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                  DonWilson on 01/05/2019 - 00:46

                  @Changskies: I was pretty obviously taking eug's words and using them… you know what, sure. My bad.

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              freesteakknives on 01/05/2019 - 06:56

              @eug: "Business grade" not only implies that the device should be more robust but also that there is a parts availability guarantee for a defined period of time eg 3 years and also a software support guarantee eg OS, drivers, firmware etc. For companies that still purchase or lease their desktop/laptop fleet this is an important consideration, maybe moreso than cost, since the devices need to be serviceable for the duration of the fleet lifespan. I know of a company that has an issue due to newer chip sets not supporting their SOE. They have thousands of users and to provide new staff with supportable computers is becoming a challenge.

              This would generally not be of concern to a home user.

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                GeneralSkunk on 01/05/2019 - 07:12

                -3

                @freesteakknives: In my experience, Business Grade means it's a cheap piece of crap Dell.

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                  eug on 01/05/2019 - 09:47

                  @GeneralSkunk: Cheap? The business you dealt with must have bought cheap entry-level Dell Vostro laptops. Dell's equivalent to the higher-end ThinkPads are the Latitude and Precision line. Those definitely aren't cheap.

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                    DonWilson on 03/05/2019 - 20:39

                    -1

                    @eug: Just when I thought I was out… they pull me back in.

                    Dell market enthusiast/aesthetic notebooks as business ones. See the XPS line.

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          virtual81 on 01/05/2019 - 11:40

          +1

          @linkii: The Yoga line in a pain in the arse as some of them are truly consumer grade, but some are business grade.
          I have a Thinkpad Yoga 460, pretty slim, but very solid machine.
          At the same time i saw some Yogas at JB HiFi and the looked and felt cheap.
          I wouldn't rule this out without further research.

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    virtual81 on 01/05/2019 - 11:37

    This is another comment that needs upvotes.
    I had a look at the deal and indeed it is better, and includes 12mo warranty.

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  meista on 30/04/2019 - 22:40

  Can this be USB-C docked, like the XPS series? (i.e.: one USB-C cable to the monitor that provides display and power)

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    nubix on 30/04/2019 - 23:36

    it has 2 thunderbolt ports

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    Trojan on 01/05/2019 - 17:57

    I have the Yoga X1 Gen 2 and yes I can run a USB C hub with power, hdmi, network, etc all connected to hub so its single cable to dock and undock.
    I highly suspect the Gen 3 will be the same.

    Edit: The single cable dock and undock also works on my wife's E480

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  happychappy1 on 01/05/2019 - 03:30

  Only 8GB RAM

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  [Deactivated] on 01/05/2019 - 08:29

  screen is a bit dim. look at refurbished xps 13 instead.

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  kevo0711 on 01/05/2019 - 09:36

  I have both the X1 and the Y530 both with very similar specs. The X1 is obviously thinner/lighter and is more premium built. I can't vouch for reliability but my work uses the X1 carbon (no touch)and they are reliable as! So much so that they are replacing the traditional desktop with these. They don't seem to produce a lot of heat either.

  Both of my machine have been great - much better than my previous DELL laptop.

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  Strong Salad on 03/05/2019 - 08:49

  +1

  Good job. This is a great deal. The X1 line rarely gets big discounts like the Thinkpad range. Lenovo business grade is my go to for mobile computing.