Hi.
This link is not open to the public and was only available to people who made reservation on their Australian site, but you can go directly there and order your Model 3 without reservation now with the link attached.
I was waiting for 3 years and now I know I didn't even need reservation to be first.
Estimate delivery time August
Got my text message earlier from my 3yr ago deposit.. seems like no advantages for the early believers…
Anyway, now I've gotta work out what to do..
Also, it's:
$66k Standard Range Plus (460km Range/225km top speed/5.6 0-100)
$85k Performance (560km Range/261km top speed/3.4 0-100)
Performance Model has and upgrade option for $6200 for 20" Wheels, Perf Brakes, Spoiler, Lowered Suspension, Alum Pedals.
Both options can go colors:
Silver/Blue = $1400
White = $2100
Red = $2800
Interior options only showing Black at the moment, I know USA has White.
Full Self Driving is $7100
Delivery August..
I've gotta work out if I wanna finance or find another way to fund this… :/
Cheapest config (Range+, black, no FSD) Drive Away price $70370
Fully decked out (Performance, Performance upgrade, FSD, RED) $115559
So taking the s&p 500, 50 year avg of 9.8% pa. into account. Dont forget to factor in the lost 1k in unrealised gains on your 3k deposit.
1500 deposit, but I would have spent that on some other silly things instead so moot on interest. Would have been nice for discounted FSD or some bonus for the believing in the Tesla mission statement.
The real bonkers thing here is Luxury Car Tax and Stamp duty… wasn't that supposed to die out when they shut down Au production of cars? Guess that got lost in the election BS.
"I would have spent that on some other silly things instead" - Is this a AntiPattern?
If I remember correctly from Tesla owner YouTube videos, the 20-inch wheels reduce range and ride comfort.
Better off going with the standard size / aero wheels to get optimal range & ride quality.
Also I think getting the full-autonomy (self-driving) package will add to the resale value down the road.
Reservation holders do get priority delivery. Just ordered mine, I'm happy that I'll be on the first truck personally
trotsky the communist orders an expensive luxury car :D
Comrades, we shall all drive a Lada Tesla Model 3
Let's also not forget the installation costs of the fast-charging hardware required at your home, which will likely add another couple of grand.
Had a quote for an at home setup from sparky that lives in my building, he said normal plug and use with the adaptor the cars come with, about $450-500. Fancy outlets more expensive.
I've worked with a guy that's just charged it up once a fortnight at a westfield, only drives about 50km a day to and from work, charges it up while doing the coles shop and done. I think i'd take that approach myself If I pull the trigger. My mazda I fill up once every 2-3 weeks and get 400km's out of a tank so should be relatively the same I think.
which will likely add another couple of grand.
Did you pull that number out of your ass?
No, my arse. Do you have quote for installation of a Tesla fast charger?
I just noticed your cool username.
If your sparky charges you a few K for running a 32a circuit, you need a new sparky.
I have mine ready to use the opportunity to run the circuit as well as replace an undersized RCD in my switchboard for about $450. I've paid him several grand before but that was for a few days worth of serious work, not chucking in a breaker and running cable from point A to point B.
I think I'll wait a few more years for the market to mature before I dive into EV's.
What are your concerns about the EV market right now?
The recharge infrastructure in Australia.
I know, right. Sucks that I can only fuel up at the rate of ~30km of range per hour from my garage… I'd much rather pay $1.60 per litre…
@neostarsx: I don't understand your question/statement
Also I was wrong, it's 30 miles per hour which is actually closer to 50km. So about 6 hours to 100% charge a SR+ (something that would happen very rarely)
there's no decent EV cars for under $50k, for one.. I'd love one but cant justify the expense
I mean yeah, other than the outrageous price. That was a given, for most of us anyway lol
But if it was 30-40?
@Blitzfx: I think if they could do these for 30-40 they wouldn't be able to make them fast enough. I'd happily by an electric car to commute with, but no way I'm paying $60k to do it.
@brendanm: You'll be able to get one for that price, you'll just have to wait. Not too long ago to have an EV you had to be prepared to pay $120K for the Model S or $130K for the Model X. It's pay to play at the moment.
"I have the need…. the need… for speeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!"
A Tesla driver.
"Tesla boss Elon Musk warns company will run out of money in 10 months unless it curbs spending
…
In June 2018, Tesla laid off 9 per cent of its workforce, and in January this year it laid off a further 7 per cent.
The new initiative comes after a tumultuous year for Tesla that has seen analysts and investors cast doubt on its ability to produce, sell and deliver enough cars to make a sustainable profit."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-18/tesla-to-run-out-of-m…
A lot of news articles taking quotes out of context. Here is the full email
"From: Elon Musk
To: Everybody
Date: May 16, 2019
As mentioned at the company talk, it is extremely important that we examine every expenditure at Tesla no matter how small, and be sure that it is critical.
When making hundreds of thousands of cars, battery packs and solar systems, even a ten cent savings could be worth over $50,000 a year. There are over 10,000 unique parts and processes at Tesla, so making small improvements across the board has a giant cumulative impact.
At the same time, we must also continue to make our products subtly better in thousands of small ways.
It is important to bear in mind that we lost $700 million in the first quarter this year, which is over $200 million per month. Investors nonetheless were supportive of our efforts and agreed to give us $2.4 billion (our net proceeds) to show that we can be financially sustainable.
That is a lot of money, but actually only gives us approximately ten months at the first-quarter burn rate to achieve breakeven. It’s vital that we respect the faith investors have shown in Tesla, but it will require great effort to do so.
That is why, going forward, all expenses of any kind anywhere in the world, including parts, salary, travel expenses, rent, literally every payment that leaves our bank account must be reviewed, confirmed as critical and the top of every page of outgoing payments signed by our CFO.
I will personally review and sign every 10th page.
Please examine closely every expense where responsibility is, or probably should be, assigned to your group. If in doubt, assume it is on your plate, so that we don’t have anything slip through the cracks.
This will take at least a few weeks to get right. Please don’t worry if it isn’t correct at first.
This is hardcore, but it is the only way for Tesla to become financially sustainable and succeed in our goal of helping make the world environmentally sustainable.
Thanks again for your excellent work,
Elon"
source:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/17/elon-musk-calls-for-cost-con…
IMO that email exudes even less confidence in Tesla's standing than the 3rd party reports.
I suppose it does if you have seen none of his other emails for reference. He reference the losses to help highlight the action he wants taken from employees.
He makes no reference of the ~$450 million worth of 'profit' from the 2 quarters prior to this
I think it’s worthwhile to mention a design flaw of the Model 3 boot, if it has been raining, when you open the boot the residual water falls onto the rear window, which then falls into the boot.
I’m sure those who intend to purchase & are believers of electric cars / the impressive self-driving / safety features will be fine with this, but it’s worth mentioning. (Maybe you should carry a rag just in case it rains so you can give the boot-lid a quick wipe before you open it)
Saw the video with an owner testing the new weather strip. Water still made its way into the boot unfortunately.
What are the chances of delayed delivery?
I say high, considering the pre orders from 3 years ago.
What do they mean by $3000 refundable deposit, cannot find much about it in the payment terms.
Can be fully refunded up until delivery.
Sod's law: Reserved "my" model 3 in Aug 2017 almost 2 years ago. However, due to my old car getting hit last month, I pulled the purchase trigger on one of those demo Model-S (previously on Ozbargin). Literally drove the S out of the Tesla lot yesterday at 1:45 pm and at 1:54 pm got an SMS saying the model 3 is ready to configure WTF! Was Elon waiting for me to exit the compound?
As per Ozbargin posts 75D demo-S was a touch over $100 (lowest was $98K - $112K), I priced up the standard 3 with blue paint and drive away $76K, so was the $27K uplift worth it for a bit bigger, bit more acceleration, glass roof, unlimited supercharging?
Yes, what was the point of the waitlist reservation???!!! Free $1500 venture capital for nothing! Reservation holders should have had some recognition even if was a low cost added extras for a "signature edition" or extra supercharger credit. Melbourne Tesla owner lounge will also be closed outside of office hours from today. All of this suggests some immaturity around customer engagement.
Griping aside, the car itself is simply on a different level, the others are playing catchup, Elon is forgiven :)
What year model is the S that you bought?
The current year 2019 as per link https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/454206. In reality, it was the shop demos of a now outdated model, the updated release (better motors, improved battery life) that will hit our shores in Aug 2019.
Haha. Good purchase by the way. I'm waiting for MOdel Y.
I’m holding out on an EV until I know what the govt plans to do re compensating for its losses in fuel tax. It’s working on that plan right now. I think the future holds a completely new way for the govt to rake in vehicle use taxes. Most probably based on kms travelled.
I thought it was supposed to be around $50k AUD when launched?
I think you're confusing the SR model which is not available in Australia (the 35K USD base model) with the SR+ and Performance models which are available in Australia.
Right, thanks.
The standard range plus list for $66K is US$39,500 which on today's conversion rates is AUD$56,800, add GST and you get to AUD$62,500.
The fully loaded performance US$68900 which hits $109,117.87 before you add LCT and other on the road charges. So Australians are not exactly getting screwed over, paying a small premium over the US.
Yeah if we scrapped Luxury car tax we'd be getting a pretty straight conversion price that's unlike every other USA to AU cost conversion.
I'm surprised that Black is the standard colour. But damn the colour options are pricey
With the new Tesla, and the limited battery endurance how would one be able to drive say Melbourne to Sydney?
The same way you do with a petrol car? Drive, refuel when you need to. The lower spec SR+ only has 100km less range than my falcon does with a 55 litre tank that costs a shitload more to refill than the battery does.
You can search it yourself here and see the costs and the stops. It is 4 stops but my falcon would need 3. Not bad really for 10 year old technology vs one that's had 100 years to get up to the height of convenience: https://abetterrouteplanner.com/
how good is self driving in real life? i think about this often as on my way to work, there are several complex intersections
one of them: two lanes suddenly split into 3 and then 4. the left two turn left, the middle goes straight and the right only turns right. however the lines leading up to them are a bit crazy and there isnt really much signage noting this. you just need to "know" because most people travel this route every day. the way the traffic lights are setup can be confusing too, as the middle green light is only for the 3rd lane to go straight.
if an autonomous car navigated this intersection this without freaking out, i would be impressed.
I suspect that as more people use that intersection, the AI will eventually teach itself to navigate it safely.
Meanwhile Telsla goes belly up
If they go belly up, Apple or some other big tech will snap it up just the same for cents on the dollar and turn it around.
Just like the banks but instead of the government it'll be big corporate.
Elon Twitter said white seats will be added.
How long is the car warranty given by Tesla? I know electric cars have less components nevertheless still are many other parts can fail.
On the Model S, 4 years limited and 8 years on powertrain and batteries.
Okay OzBargainers, what are your best ideas for finagling the price down a bit? My best yet is through a new ~1% off rewards credit card with a bonus 100k bonus Qantas points repaid with redraw from 3.8% mortgage.
… and yes I know best is to wait a year or two and then get a demo model like sockpuppy did, but even then it'll be pricey and the same strategies apply :)
Except for the inital reservation downpayment Telsa hits you up for 1.5% credit card fee for invoice payments partial or otherwise. Was told many do drop a big $$$ with AMEX as that seems to be worth it for some.
If I was buying as an individual I would go with a mortgage redraw. I would get a new credit card with mega qantas FF points and use the downpayment to hit the $3K in the 3months trigger point.T
Thanks for the response! That's interesting to hear as I paid the $3k down payment on Amex with no additional fee so was assuming remainder could also be paid on credit card. Have emailed to confirm.
Yes I was going to load up my card with $30K and get the points, but at 1.5% surcharge it was going to cost me $450
Hi OzBargainers,
Is it worth buying Tesla Model 3 Standard Range for $78,105.00?
Regards,
MottuBhai
Welcome new OzBargain member.
No it’s not as good of a high yielding investment as buying a Mercedes.
No
Yes
Maybe
I was looking at getting a Model 3 for some time. I wanted AWD performance car with leather interior and a sunroof. Went with a Subaru STI premium ex demo for $39k. I figured the base model 3 would be $55K AUD and performance just under 80K AUD last year.
Well my guesstimate ended up $20K short on both cars after price was revealed this week, Model 3 performance is $95k. I'm even happier now with my decision.
Why do you need such expensive cars? Cant you just grab something for like 15-20K - is it a status thing?
if you can afford it, why not? some people spend money on holidays, jewelries, designer handbags etc while some spend on cars. personal preference?
That price range pretty average basic microwave on wheels. 30-40K mark can get something pretty good ex demo.
Lot of safety features and quality of life features that make driving far more pleasant at a slightly higher price range. For me I wanted blind spot monitoring, auto dimming mirrors, rear camera, and cross traffic alert I really thought was useful. Lot of other features were great at making driving more pleasant and safe. With AWD driving in the rain far safer, car doesn't step out. At normal speeds same traction levels as dry, dont need to drive liek youre driving on ice like I see other people doing.
Going past $60k law of diminishing returns IMO
Tesla is really nice car to drive its why I wanted it for long time. Just price they were asking was Apple money, cant justify it. I'll wait till EVs come down in price, early adopters get punished.
You were recently looking for $300 monitor speakers. Can't you just buy $20 ones from the reject shop?
recently? that was like 3 years ago? Seems ridiculous to go through my post history to try and locate something I wanted to purchase and somehow justifying that $300 and $80,000 seems comparable.
@Fergy1987: My point stands, you can't claim it's a status thing because others want something of higher value.
@Ryanek: I didn't claim it was a status thing. There is a question mark at the end of it. I was questioning is that the reason why people buy such expensive cars.
@Fergy1987: That's exactly the point. Some things are worth it to some people. Just because a Tesla isn't worth it to you, doesn't mean it isn't to someone else. That same person may be happy with $5 speakers, or a $20 phone from Coles. People have different wants and interests.
60-70k isn't that much nowadays on a car anyway, not like it's a half million Bentley.
@brendanm: I think the stereotypical ‘smugness’ description comes from paying extra for an electric car.
Similar deal with hybrids like the Prius. People gave early adopters of them a bad wrap and compared them to Hollywood millionaires wanting to look ‘eco-conscious’.
I agree there is a market for $60k-70k cars, just look at how many luxury vehicles you see driving around which often cost a lot more with options (Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, etc).
for $78,104.99 - yes
for $78,105.00 - no
You drive a hard bargain, dealers will have to roll up their sleeves.
Hi MottuBhai,
Buy BMW X5 for maximum investment savings yield bonus.
Regards,
OzBargainers
We don't know, is it worth it to you?
I've never understood these kinds of questions, if you can spend $78k on a car, you're obviously smart(or lucky) enough to earn a decent wage so make a decision based on your situation and do some research like any logical person, here's a couple things to consider.
1) Do you have any outstanding debts that this money would be better off spending 78k on.
2) Do you still have a financial safety net if you purchase this car.
3) Do you live in a home or an apartment which has the option for a Tesla charger so you can, you know, charge your electric car.
4) Do you live within Tesla Range distance to a Tesla charger for longer trips.
5) Consider the costs of servicing, registration and any additional taxes, can you afford these.
6) Have you spoken to your husband/wife
Let us know what you decide, I'm eager to hear what happens next.
Hi
Hello
Anyone knows if we can add that Full Self-Driving Capability $8500 later instead of the initial purchase? Is it just a software update so we can purchase to unlock this feature after purchase? If this possible, we can reduce $819 for NSW On-Road Fee/Tax.
Yes, FSD capability can be added on later. Whether it will be $8500 later is another question altogether (Tesla say it will be more expensive). Given the lack of approved FSD features in Australia I'm fine to take the gamble and add it later
should this not be in deal page? what an awesome deal !!! i was waiting for 5 years !