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Free Playstation 4 PS4 theme to celebrate pride month .
Sometimes I feel like a f**king skittle…
It's OK to be monochrome.
Folau: anyone who downloads this theme should repent
Abbott: this theme makes me feel uncomfortable
Pauline Hanson: I don’t like it
Bob Katter: pride month? Let there be a 1000 blossoms bloom
Do you work for Bob Katter or something?
mad katter quote
Ah yes, I actually recall seeing him say that last bit on TV.
Oh the hypocrisy…
Apparently you do
How will you be celebrating your pride month jv?
You, or you would ignore it.
lmao you enough to click on this and then post a comment xD
This is old. Was released last year.
Oh, wow, corporations care about everyone… Geeee… I wonder why… Oh yeah $$$$$🤑$$$$$$
Oh man, I, love you all too, I really "really" do, just keep on filling my pockets 😂
you think Corporations care about your Christmas , your valentines or your mother on mothers day? Cant seem to find your complaints on those threads?
How will you be celebrating pride month then?
Commercialisation of social issues makes my skin crawl. Exhibit B: ANZ going after Maria Folau. Like big banks and game corps that perfected micropayments set the benchmark for ethical behaviour. It’s all $$$.
ANZ going after Maria Folau.
ANZ going after Maria Folau.
I guess they don't want Christians as customers… I wonder what their shareholders think about that?
I wonder what Christians think about people twisting their ideology to justify their bigotry
The corporate world is full of bigots these days, as are many of the LGBT advocates.
What about gay Christian's?
Yes interesting. Why on earth would you subscribe to an ideology that has and does with its written word, disregard who you say you are.
Or wanting to change a groups rules that were black and white for thousands of years, because it doesn't conform to your believes and values.
I don't go into a basketball game and demand they lower the ring because i don't slam dunk on it because I'm short. They'd laugh and say, this is the game, these are the rules. It's our game. If you want something that conforms to your believes and values, go start your own game.
Imagine if LGB-TIQ+ people went and told the muslim faith they had to accept them…haha…good luck
@Lv80: What is there to laugh about, your hatred and intolerance? In the future people will look back at people like you, like we look back at those who were pro-segregation based on race. You don't have to enjoy being hate filled.
Even Islam is changing:
It's not as if Western Society has been progressive for a long period of time, just look at what the UK Government did to Alan Turing in the 1950s.
@FabMan: I don't agree with religion at all buddy. But while their books are being sworn on in courts, parliament, and to be citizens, we can't cherry pick what's in them but accept them in their entirety. - which is why I am not religious.
Pro segregation….that's pretty rich given there is a very specific term used by the LGBTIQ+ for straight people that accept their sex they are. From a group that have created their very own term and group LGBTQI. That keep coming up with gender terms to separate themselves from other genders based on the smallest differences.
The world is filled with segregation. Male. Female. Elderly. Youth. Weights. Abilities. Commitment - Pro/Amateur. Bicycle lanes, pedestrian only paths, roads excluding tractors, horses, bicycles. WOmen only gyms. Gay clubs. Trans clubs. LGBTIQ friendly groups. Where even if you wanted to respect them as people, but disagree with their views, you can't join.
It's expected to be tolerant of LGBTIQ+..and equally ok to be intolerant of being tolerant of religious groups that disagree with LGBTIQ+. So basically it's ok to be tolerant of everything the left want and believe and tolerant to be intolerant of conservative views? That about right?
@FabMan: I don't hate anyone based on being LGBTIQ+. I hate people that try to tell me I have to be accepting of any or all these. That I have to accept that a trans woman can compete in sports against biological women. That putting a child on puberty blockers is ok. That allowing a teenager to undergo a sex change procedure is fine and normal.
Yup…forgive me for caring about kids more than those that have an agenda to push are. Or caring for the equality of a massive group of people to cater for the 'rights' of a deluded few
@Lv80: I would agree with those things you stated, I too do not like them, some of those stories about children down right disgust me. However, that is not the totality of the movement, and not everyone in that movement agrees with those too.
The goal by PlayStation is to tell people, you are welcome to their services, whatever their motives, some people will like this theme and it doesn't hurt those that don't want it (as far as I can tell).
Basically, people are called fags or queers or whatever a lot while playing online games. Whether the person they are talking to are gay or not, doesn't matter, it is used constantly as an insult, they are the butt (yes I know) of many jokes. Sometimes it is nice for someone, or a company, to say 'Welcome'.
@FabMan: I can't ever think of anyone every using the term fag or queer as a colloquial term. Gay has become part of the vernacular. But that's like saying it's not ok to call people 'straight' with regard to their personality, because that's suggestive and discriminatory. And that's to say, no-one really wants to be 'straight' with regard to personality.
Anyone calling someone a fag or queer I imagine is an insult and yes should't be used. Like anything really. Whore, bastard etc. But I get called a prick or bastard online when someones upset and don't take it personally or as general discrimination against males.
I don't think censoring the word helps either. I play a game that has censored "abortion". Now you can happily say "killing a living unborn baby in the womb" and not be censored or banned..but using a medical and legitimate term is banned. This is the issue with trying to control speech. Who is the arboter of it? Anything anyone says could be flagged as being offensive and discrimination….or we can put it in context.
"you are gay". "Yes I am" would seem to sort that out quickly. Accept it if thats who you are and it isn't abuse.
Similar with other terms. The other issue is when one group can use a term because they are it and another can't. There is no ownership of a term. If you don't like it, no-one should use it. Not…well we are jews so we can do jew jokes…or black jokes for black people only. If you don't want a term being used then don't accept it anywhere.
I don't want to get into suppressing comedy and jokes. That's another kettle of fish.
But the world is getting out of control. Demand equality and respectful treatment. But you and we should never take away the rights of someone to esxpress their views and opinions. Not when they aren't asking for harm to be made. Regardless of how hurtful it is to you.
This theme is a good point in case. Speaks to the LGB-TIQ+ groups while slapping religious groups in the face.
Again…i don't care for religion. I think it's had some good points…but also bad…and I like to accept things and people based on everything about them and not cherry pick.
Interestingly…I know you meant it in jest…but "they are the butt (yes I know) of many jokes" proves that something that can be and realistically is offensive and discriminatory, isn't always meant in anger or to discriminate. but it could be easy for someone to flag that based on that comment.
I stopped being insulted by what people say….and now only by people or organisations that try to strop what people say. And this is the issue with Israel F.
But again…if you want to promote inclusivity, promote all groups. Don't put one group ahead of the rest and separate them…ultimately by doing so you are continuing to encourage segregation are you not?
LGBTIQ+ flag…doesn't include straight people. Subconsciously that speaks a lot to where we are at with segregation.
@Lv80: How is the theme of 'For ALL the Players' an insult to religion? Religious people are welcome too. I'm willing to bet there is a huge variation in the type of people that work for PlayStation around the world, with various religious beliefs too.
It seems like you are trying to find a way to be offended when even you state that you don't care for religion. The current 'I am offended by this' is getting way out of hand, last year, this was largely ignored, this year it has garnered a lot of attention both positive and negative. It is so easy to ignore a theme based around inclusion.
This hatred spewed out here reminds me of the videos I've seen of white people in the US in the 1960s around black people wanting to be accepted as equals. Assuming you have kids, and they have kids, I have confidence they'll be ashamed of these kind of talks of this generation. There is a lot of ignorance being spouted by a few people here, it isn't an easy to sum up situation, but it isn't a new thing, just the push for acceptance is. I encourage a strong debate, but not on a bargain website.
A theme For ALL the players, install or ignore, it is so easy.
Not that different from Qantas's hypocrisy, pretending to support LGBT when they are in partnership and support an airline owned by the government of Dubai who imprison, chemically castrate and put to death gay people… But that's OK, because it's good for their share price…
No-one ever has anything to say about this. Seems even if you believe it and practice it..so long as you don't say it openly…everyone looks the other way.
Qantas is a joke. So to is the ARU.
Neoliberals love identity politics because it allows them to keep screwing over morons while looking like they're a force for good amongst the more naive morons.
I'm a straight white male. Which colour represents me?
Is it blue? Good old authoritarian police blue. Thats a real colour.
Or am I just the plain background against which everything else stands out beautifully? It's hard to know my place in the world.
I'm a straight white male.
I'm a straight white male.
Apparently, you are what's bad about the world today…
Aha, I knew the whole damn world revolves around me. The ex gf didn't know what she was talking about.
The combination of the the other colours which have been divided.
Your can choose any colour you like.
No one is stopping you
White is just all colours combined. So you're anything and everything.
How dare you take blue.
Because they want to alienate non LGBTs…
Not very inclusive.
Hardly, it's a theme on a gaming console.
If you seriously get alienated by this, by God…..
You are such a drama queen.
the correct word for non LGBT is 'cis'.
Israel Folau says no
On ya Israel, behind you 100%!
Here have an upvote!
This thread is pretty much what I expected to read when I clicked it and is proof positive that the community needs ongoing support.
I honestly expected that these memes might have passed their expiry date by now, but apparently not.
I appreciate the theme :)
Please, be tolerant and treat people as humans.
An upvote from me!
It's not a matter of treating people as humans. It's when certain groups demand others treat them as they want to be treated. I will treat you as a human..but I don't have to respect you are trans, religious, do drugs, wear drag, are promiscuous etc.
When it starts encroaching on other groups equality there is an issue. When it comes to effecting kids…that's verging on insanity.
Thank you, not a day finishes without my lifestyle being used as a joke in some way because of the woman I love. It gets old really fast.
Seriously what is with all the people who crawled out of the woodwork to post mocking comments. Really does show that we are still a long ways off
Sure, but by ongoing support you don't mean superficial and arguably manipulative virtue signalling like this, ANZs little female martial artist advertisement and the Gillette controversy.
I think someone said it best in the Woolies school stickers thread - a real interest in helping people would be actualised through giving money to worthy groups, not by running advertising campaigns focused upon painting their brand in a positive light.
Typically they do… so why not both?
Virtue signalling is a term that gets thrown around but has no meaning.
You hit the nail on the head there! Pride month is important, companies have lots of LGBT staff who are often told they are a joke or shouldn't exist by a group of society that seems to think its okay to essentially tell them they are hated.
It's wonderful that these companies use their platform to tell others that whilst free speech is wonderful, it's not cool to say mean things about LGBT people who are just as hard working and productive as the rest.
@Skyceratop: How many LGB people do you legitimately know that are not treated like normal people?
I work in an industry that is full of them and almost none are treated any differently in or out of it.
Extreme LGBTIQ+ advocates push an agenda that unsettles people…much as a far right group would.
Most people, SGBT all get about doing their thing till there is an expectation that they be treated differently than any other person. Or accusing people of being sexist when they might just not like the person.
Labels like rascism, sexism, bigotry, homophobic get thrown around a lot. When in fact, there is no hatred or fear of what they do. Just that they don't agree with it. for whatever reason. And this is the right of people. I don't have to agree with everything everyone does. What sort of crap world would that be. I don't have to agree that people do drugs, are alcoholics, hit their wives, it their husbands, (if i actually cared, are gay, which goes against a lot of religions) attempted to block children's puberty. aborted their children in the womb…etc etc.
I have a right to my view and to share it. As someone that disagrees with me does theirs.
The right don't try to suppress the left from speaking and sharing their views. The Left very much try to stop and suppress anyone with any differing opinion based on them being some sort of phobe.
I don't work for Sony Australia, but if this is the extent of their work for pride month, I would class that as virtue signalling.
Indeed all workers have a right to be valued (as sky says below); I wonder if Sony is doing anything internally to celebrate diversity.
I'm not saying I know one way or the other, I'm just providing an example where virtue signally would, to me, be clear.
@ozbjunkie: I wonder if any gay person in sony actually feels discriminated against?
I wonder if there any aggressive or discrimination at all at Sony? I wonder if other groups are discriminated against more?
In response to the alarming facts in that survey we need mandatory rainbow lgbt flags to fly alongside national flags at every government building and school. Every corporation should adopt a rainbow version of their logo to use compulsorily several times a year to create mass awareness.
Shoving progressive values down unwoke people's throats isn't enough. We need to force feed it down every orifice repeatedly if real change is to happen. It's 2019 folks time to end the hate.
..not sure if sarcasm…? (It's honestly to hard to tell these days. :)
tots sarcasm lol
Sadly I reackon a few left people probably up voted this thinking it was serious lol
I'm a Conservative and I find some of the crap in this thread appalling!
Almost Cory Bernardi levels crap!
Please, be tolerant
Please, be tolerant
Not much 'tolerance' for Israel Folau from Rugby Australia for following his beliefs and quoting the bible on twitter….
Tolerance should be a two way street, but in this country, the LGBT supporters do not practice what they preach…
Tolerance for intolerance?
He is allowed to express his religious beliefs, and all he did was quote a bible passage.
What in particular offended you about what he quoted?
@jv: To be honest I wasn't offended by what he said because I'm not religious. But I still think he should lose his contract. If I went into work with a sign with what he quoted I would be marched straight out the door. A public figure like him putting that on social media is many times worse. Free speech is a myth. You can't say absolutely anything you want without repercussions. What if he paraphrased Hitler, would he still be entitled to express his beliefs, and not suffer any consequences? He's a idiot for putting it up in the first place. Some things you just need to keep to yourself.
But I still think he should lose his contract.
But I still think he should lose his contract.
Why should he be gagged from expressing his religious beliefs? He was just quoting a passage from the bible.
@jv: He wasn't gagged, he was able to put the quotes up but RA isn't tolerating it. They have said it is a breach of contract. Exactly what the breach is I don't know, but I would assume it comes down to a code of conduct issue. I couldn't get away with doing what he did (nor could just about anyone in this day and age), neither should he. Just because it's in the bible doesn't mean it's exempt from being viewed as hate speech (which by definition, I very much believe it is). The bible was written by man. How about a passage from the Quran: Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them".
Should that be tolerated as freedom of expression of religion?
@Shaun Prawn: You don't even need to quote the Quran to get some pretty suspect scripture. I'm borrowing from someone else:
Dear @izzyfolau ,
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can.
When someone tries to defend the homosexual/transsexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination … End of debate.
I do, however, need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Papua New Guineans, but not New Zealanders. Can you clarify? Why can't I own New Zealanders?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24.
The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9.
The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death.
Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot………
….. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
PS: It would be a real shame if we couldn't own a New Zealander
@twjr: Wow, I just checked a few of those out. That book is more messed up than I thought. There is also a passage in Leviticus that says you can't have tattoos, and Folau has tattoos. So he just cherry picks the parts he wants to chastise others for. I truly believe religion causes far more problems than it does good for people.
As for the quote from the Quran, I was just using it as an example to refute JV because he mentioned several times about Folau's tweet just being a quote from the bible. I did not think he would argue about a controversial quote from the Quran in the same manner. He didn't even respond.
@Shaun Prawn: He didn't go to work with anything out.
We posted on his private page from his home out of work hours.
Work does not own you 24/7/. You should be able to go to a vegan march and not be fired by the meat company you work for. Similarly you should be able to post anti meat stuff on your private page and still be entitled to make a living working for a meat company - so long as this doesn't effect your quality of work.
The ARU is not an advocate for gay rights..nor its players. It is a sports game. It does not specifically represent gay people. It is for all…and all are entitled to share their views.
it didn't ask for or condone hate or violence. It in fact said…once you were dead…you will go to hell. The bible also says I am a sinner and will go to hell…but you jknow what…i don't believe in made up places or little men in the sky…so it doesn't worry me. And if ai did believe in their faith…I'd wonder why I wasn't devoted to the 'word of god' as Israel is if I discarded what he said.
@Lv80: I get your points. But as I said, when a public figure who is looked up to by others posts something like that on their social media, it is far worse than if I had gone to work with a sign around my neck saying the same thing. Maybe 40-50 people would see me. 10's of millions, if not 100's of millions have now seen what he wrote. His job only exists because of other people who want to watch the sport he plays, and he is representing RA all hours of the day. He would have a strict code of conduct to abide by in his contract.
By putting those quotes up he has essentially deemed a very large portion of the world as evil, or bad people. I know he didn't use those exact words, but if you asked anybody over the age of 5 what kind of person do you think would deserve to go to hell, I would bet my life that the vast majority would say an evil person or a bad person. It doesn't matter if you believe in it or not, most people have the perception of hell being a cruel dark place with fire and lava and whatnot from what we have seen on television and other media.
Although it didn't condone violence as such, the definition of hate speech is abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group. The passages he quoted are hate speech.
It's not just the gays and lesbians, he listed a whole bunch of groups, but I see why people have focused on that part because homosexuals don't have a choice about their sexuality. They are born that way. Imagine a young gay kid who loves rugby, but is struggling coming to terms with his sexuality, and this idiot Folau goes and posts that stuff up. How would that kid feel, his idol saying he's going to hell.
@Lv80: Folau was a brand representative for RA at all times. He did not have "out of work hours" and RA remunerated him handsomely for this inconvenience. I've no doubt he was aware of this when he signed his contract and agreed to RA's conditions of employment.
One of the big issues with Folau's post was his use of the word Hell. The passage quoted by Folou states those people will not "inherit the Kingdom of God", not "go to Hell". Semantics are important. Neither does the King James Version use the word homosexuals, instead stating effeminates. Though some of the versions of the Bible do state homosexuals or sodomites, given the Bible was not written in English it is open to interpretation.
@jv: As a drunk lying fornicating thieving idolating (a little ironic he including this one given Folau clearly lusts after a little worship himself) atheist, I'm pretty covered by his post. However, RA didn't sack him because he expressed his religious beliefs.
RA didn't sack him because he expressed his religious beliefs.
RA didn't sack him because he expressed his religious beliefs.
So it had nothing to do with his twitter comment you reckon?
@jv: I think it has everything to do with his Instagram post.
I think it has everything to do with his Instagram post.
I think it has everything to do with his Instagram post.
Which was a quote from a bible passage…
@jv: Except he didn't quote a Bible passage. He selectivity interpreted one of the many already selectively interpreted and translated versions of Galatians 5:19-21 to fit his worldview. The King James Version Folau quotes mentions nothing of homosexuality, nor even the more biblical sodomy. If you are going to hide behind the smokescreen of "he's just quoting the Bible" at least quote the thing accurately.
@jv: I wasn't offended. Why are you so butthurt about this?
Folau breached his contract. RA had already given him a formal warning for breach of contract the year prior. He had been posting religious messages to social media for the intervening year, including many that RA had liked so they haven't exactly been intolerant of his beliefs.
Why should progressives be tolerant of intolerance? Your argument reeks of hypocrisy.
Folau breached his contract.
Folau breached his contract.
By quoting a bible passage…
Even if it was in his contract, which I doubt it is… Such statements in contracts are invalid if they deny people their legal rights…
@jv: What legal right?
@twjr: free hate speech
@abuch47: Or to use the correct descriptor what he said (according to the zeitgeist) was 'doubleplusungood'.
@jv: I know this is old news, but I just wanted to make the point that free speech and speech free from consequence are two different things.
So if you want to believe in and speak about the passages in the bible but your employer doesn't think they are commercially viable beliefs to hold, they shouldn't gagg you but they can fire you if you breach your contract. If they happen to agree with your comments and give you a pay rise instead, this is their choice too.
Not sure why that's difficult to understand.
this deal has nothing to do with Folau
Of course it has… Just like what the ANZ bank did.
haha…if you think there is no agenda pushing going on you have your eyes closed.
Come back to me when children can demand they have surgery to change their sex. When female sports is filled with trans-women..when you can't express your opinion even in public because someone taking offence to what you said is a crime.
Just give in 20 years diddy.
Freedom of speech and thought is under threat.
Do some research on what is going on in the states and more importantly in England where they don't have the right to free speech in their law.
I abhor the leftist virtue signalling employed by corporations pretending to care about the marginalised, and values being shoved down my throat left right and centre. I also resent the mob mentality of the left that anyone who disagrees them is a bigoted homophobe who deserves to be dragged through the mud and scorned and ridiculed…so I donated twice my original amount when Israel Folaus Gofundme page was taken down. Ironically it's the best thing that could have happened to him.
While I disagree with giving religious zealots money to espouse hateful and hurtful things, I respect free speech, so I don't believe deplatforming him was productive.
Despite the possibility that my comment way above was interpreted as a dog whistle, I am big on human rights and equality, but so sick and tired of virtue signalling, particularly when performed cynically by corporations, mouthvomit.
So in the interest of not censoring invididuals of different opinions, have my upvote.
Folau hasn't been deplatformed. He's still on all forms of social media espousing his hateful dialogue.
In fact, he's a household name now. Even in states that couldn't give a rat's about rugby. He got what he wanted.
Yes you're right, Barbara Streisand effect, I should have been specific that GoFundMe shouldn't have bowed to public pressure to remove his page, which I see as an attempt to deplatform, with obvious counterproductive consequences.
Really though, wouldn't a "good Christian" like Folau have taken the money from the GoFundMe and actually given it to the sick kids on GoFundMe which need the money? How is it that to be Christlike and Christian are two entirely different things?
@ozbjunkie: I'd rather GoFundMe not allow the use of their platform for obviously hate filled causes. If that means that one day one of my causes gets removed, so be it. They're not required to host everything.
As for the second part, it goes to show what a un-Christianlike person Folau is. This is all about making money for him. That he was willing to keep any left over money instead of donating it shows what a hypocrite he is.