Help Me Buy a Car - Something Like Mazda 3?

I have been driving a 2002 Mazda 323 hatchback for the last year and its time to upgrade to something better.
I have been looking around and Mazda 3 models from 2009-2012 look nice, and to the price i want to (no more than $8000)

What i want from a car is simple:

1) i want a sedan or a big hatchback with space for groceries
2) Its for me and my wife and possibly a new child in the next 2 years
3) Dont really care about speed, comfort is more important

Is trading my mazda to a dealer for another car a good idea?

Any suggestions welcome

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  • +1 vote

    If a a child is on the horizon, get a hatchback. Much easier to loan the pram.

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    Mazda3 is good. Corolla is good. Flip a coin
    Both should be hassle free, decently comfortable, suit your needs. I'd take both for a spin and see how you feel about them.
    Could even try carnextdoor or drivemycar and find a couple the older models to rent, and have a decent amount of time to get a feel for them.

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      https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kogarah/cars-vans-utes/2009-...

      How about this?

      Its like 3k cheaper than the usual price of these cars….

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        Is it? The similar ads underneath all look about the same.
        Impossible to know if it's actually any good without actually seeing it. In person it might obviously be crap.

        And don't trust dealers, better to get a car expert friend for a second opinion, and pay for an inspection from NRMA or somewhere, just to avoid getting scammed on a lemon.

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          just to avoid getting scammed on a lemon.

          Well, the thing with dealers is that they do have some sort of warranty and i can 'easily' trade my old car for a new one (provided they give me a good price for both)

          Otherwise i will have to firstly buy the new car, then sell my old one, which is far more trouble

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            @nikoris: I wouldn't place any value on a used car warranty. They don't apply to cars over 10 years old anyway I think, so in your budget they may not exist.

            Private buying and selling is way more hassle, but I kinda like getting a sense of the previous owner. And an old 323 shouldn't be too difficult to get rid of I think.
            Also scares me to think that no one would privately buy a car that's having serious problems, so they'd get dumped on dealers. Must be a few land mines around.

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              @crentist: What kind of dealer would buy a land mine?

              You know that they sell/offer warranties with used cars, right?

              A land mine would 99% be sold privately, hoping for the buyer to not see the problems.

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                @nikoris: Dealers get stuck with dodgy cars regularly. They take a trade in with very little inspection and often trading in is easier than selling a car with problems privately.

                A big dealership will often have ties (or own) a smaller independent looking yard where they sell their ‘rough’ cars.

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                @nikoris: Try claiming on one of those warranties and you often find all sorts of exclusions that they use to get out of having to fix the car.

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    Mazda 3’s are great cars but they do like a regular service so only get one with a full service history.

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    I don't have any spare cash to help you buy a car, sorry.

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    Why don’t you trade in your wife’s phone that you hate so much? That’d be worth more than your 323 as a trade in.

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    Is trading my mazda to a dealer for another car a good idea?

    Doubt anyone would take a 2002 Mazda 323 as trade-in. Better to just buy your car and sell the old one on the used market. Corolla or Mazda 3 both fine for what you want. No issues with your budget.

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    For that price range, a well serviced and looked after Honda or Toyota

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    Have a look at a Hyundai i30 as well, similar class vehicle.

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    Hi OP,

    FWIW I think one of the miskaes folks make when they purchase a budget car is spending too much focus on 'maxxing' the car they get for the money instead of identifying that they don't have a lot of money to spend either initially on the car AND ALSO any potential future costs - so they should prioritise targeting a car that has good reliability levels and also IF repairs are needed is known for being very cost effective to do so.

    So it's almost a cliche but I'd say to get a Corolla - they're not as comfy as their peers but their reputation for reliability & ease to find parts etc is there for a reason.It's completely counterproductive to only spend $8k on a car, when you end up getting a $2k bill in the first year for major parts that need replacing etc.

    As Corolla's are so sought after they hold their value a lot more than other cars of the same age - so expect to have to either take a car with more mileage or age. As long as you get ABS and front airbags I'd tend to prioritise lower mileage.

    I'd also consider the Hyundai Elantra - this in particular is a very good deal:
    https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Hyundai-Elantra-201...

    I'd try and get a private sale (it's more flexible to allow you to have car properly checked - and get this done!) and make a priority of looking at service records and that it has good tyres (as a new decent set will set you back $400-500).

  • +1 vote

    You can get a 2015 or 2016 Kia Rio or Cerato for that money.
    Warranty on Kia's sold from 2015 onward is 7 years, so you can have some comfort on buying a used car that still has 2 or 3 years of factory warranty remaining.

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