Denon AVRX1500B 7.2ch AV Receiver $688 RRP $1149
Denon AVRX2500H 7.2ch 4k AV Receiver w/Alexa Voice Control $988 RRP $1699
Yamaha RXV2085B 9.2ch AV Receiver $1595 RRP $2299
Thanks to bert-lifts for the comment
AV Receivers: Denon X1500H $688, Denon X2500H $988, Yamaha V2085 $1595 @ Videopro
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Thanks for that, very handy tool!
Yeah I use this site frequently, it's the best when comparing receivers.
Only issue is that you need to substitute the Yamaha RX-V for the equivalent Aventage model since they don't sell the RX-V line in the USA. So for anyone who wants to compare the RX-V2085, just search for the RX-A2080.
Why are we getting ripped off so much compared to USD? Even the RRP is 30% higher in AUD than USD.
https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx15…
Item Condition: Denon Factory Refurbished
US$399 new elsewhere, AU$579. Not terrible.
Yes, Australia tax is BS and that's why my import from Amazon Germany will be the last one I buy.
Amazon German stopped shipping to Australia while ago right? My Denon X2400H stopped while ago and I tried to order a new one, but found out that they stopped shipping here…
Because you're not even comparing the same products? One is refurb? Don't let that get in the way of your idea of being "ripped off" though!
The x1500 (at least) has been that price at Harvey Norman for months.
Edit: I read the comment mentioned in the post. Basically for people who would rather not shop at HN. But the x1500 has been cheaper earlier in its life. It is now reaching EOL and isn’t any better priced than it has been for months. Not a bad price, but I’d hope for more at this point.
the cheap denon deals used to come from amazon germany …which is how i got mine …then amazon blocked overseas sales, now the overseas sites are accessible again but amazon adds gst so effectively 10% more, and that has closed the pricing gap.
depends how badly people want a saving and overseas warranty vs local on a item that would be expensive to repair, though these things are very reliable.
Still can't order from Amazon Germany unfortunately. Amazon USA works but they use different voltages so waste of time ordering anything like an AVR.
Yup, tried ordering a new denon amp from the German site a few month ago, but found out they don't ship here anymore.
I was considering getting a new receiver, and dig a little digging noticed that the cheapest offerings by the various tech companies were somewhat crippled ('defective by design'), like not being able to decode lossless formats such as flac, and having limits on the amount of files it can access from a USB HDD drive.
I guess this isn't that different from GPUs, the medium priced ones are often the same as the high end ones but with units disabled. The manufacturing cost is the same, but the cost to the consumer is very different.
Well.. Yeah. Of course they use the same brains. And the number of channels and inputs physically wired in, possibly the dacs, will be different. Which is fair.
Graphics cards not a great analogy because the technique also allows cards that would have been thrown away to be sold. Although if demand too high they may not be rescued cards.
It's fixing a supply chain problem at a component level, nothing else. The less components to manage, the lower the overall cost of the supply chain.
That's not necessarily true. A lot of chips get 'binned' for CPUs/GPU's. So they might use the same die, but have a defect rate of X% which are suitable for lower tier products.
why are these so expensive? surely the profit margins are at 95% of production costs
Because people only buy them every 5-10 years when wheres a significant step-change in technology required e.g. 4k
I also imagine they have to pay all the license fees to Dolby, DTS and every other technology it supports on the chip for every unit.
The question is, need vs want here?
If you have a 5.1 setup, you can keep your existing receiver for ever and just output from source to the receiver and connect directly to TV.
For example, I have a Pioneer SC-LX57, a respectable beastly unit, but now a little old now (2013 model) supports 4K@30p no HDCP 2.1, HDR etc
So rather than get thrashed top dollar for an average AV unit coupled with extra-bloated Australia Tax that has no guts, I run an Xbox One X optical out 5.1 to receiver and then HDMI from XBX1 to TV.
- The optical Toslink handles the sound. (up to 5.1)
- The HDMI handles the video with the latest HDR etc 18Gbps.
- As long as TV/PJ is HDR 4K HDMI 2.0+ compatible.
- You have the latest HDMI cable 2.0.
Problem solved!
More cables (well $20 for optical cable) needed however that's it. It may be a little messy however you are not spending heaps of money.
So if you are happy to keep your existing setup (5.1) , don't worry about the latest sound codecs (e.g DTX, Atmos etc), don't have 7 HDMI devices to switch then find a way to bypass which is cheap and effective.
Cheers
Edit: Anyone after the Yammy, can go to your local HN store as it is $14 more ..
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/yamaha-rxv2085b-9-2-channel-…
I'm sure they can match the price :PCheers
Good advice.
I also use a Yamaha AV-1 from 1999, $4500 back in 1999. Its a 26kg beast with passive cooling no fans and a huge power supply transformer.
Slightly different approach but same idea using a HDMI splitter box with two HDMI out from one input to move from TV to Projector from source depending on what I watch. Then use the Coax Digital for the Audio to the old beast of an amp.
The amp being 20 years old now is a beast and betters a lot of Stereo amps. Its a simple equation for quality of Amp circuit, $1000 into 7 channels is never the same quality as $1000 into 2 for example.
Don't get the latest over hyped sound fields but still a massive quality sound and way better then today's AV amps for music.
Quality over new tech any day.
Any of these do Airplay 2?
https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/av_receivers_…
Yes for the Yammy with firmware update
P.S. Same as RXV2085B with an extra leg and longer warranty :P
All of these 3 models do (with firmware updates).
Great prices on some decent gear.
do the antenna on the back of the Denon AVRX1500B twist 90 degrees inward, I'm not sure it would fit in the cavity I have in mind if they sit upright
I have this unit and yes they do
Need more 2.1 receivers with HDMI for those running stereo setups.
Just use an existing 5.1 receiver and run only 2 speakers/channels & 1 x sub
Hi guys, I'm going to Europe next month and thinking of buying the Denon X2500H from Amazon Germany. How does warranty work with them? If the price I pay for it is less than $1000 will I still be charged GST upon my return to Australia?
I think if you are declaring over $1K, then you would have to pay import duties/GST, similarly to eBay.
IMO, I would just get the Yammy here and save time and hassles, warranty etc….
Plus the Yammy is 9.2 whereas the Denon is 7.2
CheersAgree.
The V2085 is a competitor to denon x4500 https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/denon-avr-x4500h/yamah… , so a fair step up over the x2500 in DAC, AMP quality, etc.
If its under 900AUD total (including other goods you buy while overseas), then you can avoid the GST.
Ref https://www.abf.gov.au/entering-and-leaving-australia/can-yo…I don't think you will get any local support from the distributor here though, so any warranty support you would have to go through Germany.
I am looking to buy an avr and speakers. Hoping to buy Denon HEOS. Not sure about the AVR yet. But I can wait a few more months for a better deal.
In the meantime, hoping some AV experts here can answer a few questions I have:
Can Denon avr be directly connected to Denon HEOS speakers without any additional equipment / wiring ?
What would we need to connect a Yamaha avr with Denon HEOS speakers wirelessly ?
Is the only way to connect Sonos speakers with Yamaha or Denon AVR (wirelessly) is using a Sonos Connect ?
Decent prices for local stock!
Super helpful website for comparing AVR's https://www.zkelectronics.com/receivers/