Hi everyone,
Just looking for some opinions here. I see a lot of people looking for wall art on Facebook marketplace.
I have been selling my printed and framed copies on FB marketplace with some success. I wanted to expand and sell it online.
What are your thoughts on it? Would you ever buy a print online at all for your walls?
Regards!
Here are the poll results:
Some will, some will not.
… and summary of the comments:
It depends on what the art looks like.
I have started off with my 'Sensual' series that is inspired by the female form. Got really good feedback on Facebook from the prints that I have sold. Have collected a few photographs from the buyers as well for my collection! Thought that would come in Handy at a later date!
Are… are you just selling framed porn?
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You should offer services to create custom avatars.
I have done some commission work.
I would love to paste the url here for an idea of my work but I am not sure if it's against the rules.
Here is the link www.jaydenjalvi.com
I only have 4 prints for now. 2 inspired by one of my favourite artists and 2 of my original prints.
Please let me know/delete if not allowed.
Edit: The website is new and I apologise if there are any areas that seem weird. I am still working on making it better slowly.
They are too sexy for my taste, but I have bought prints online before
Thanks Jay!
I am currently working on a collection from my trip to India. Just very colourful portraits, buildings, food items and other general landscapes I came across.
Hopefully I'd be able to do it some justice!
Sincere question: Do you consider (or intend) intend your art (to be) erotica?
@afoveht: I started off studying human form. Naturally was inclined towards the female form. To be honest, it's just one of those things that struck out to me.
But to answer your question, not really. I have another collection in works based on my recent trip to India. Just portraits i captured on the streets, buildings and landscapes.
I started off studying human form. Naturally was inclined towards the female form. To be honest, it's just one of those things that struck out to me.
Nothing wrong with that. Don't be dissuaded
@payton: It's a bit hard to justify why I paint what I paint. I get a few weird comments from people that I take as genuine feedback. To me honestly, there is nothing wrong with sensuality. We all enjoy it in one form or the other.
I am not trying to be pornographic with my pieces. I would like to think that there is a bit of sensuality to it, not the crude raw nudity kind but more the sensual, flattering or inviting kind.
I don't know. I am still very new and only time will tell where I end up being. I have a 9 to 5 Monday to Friday gig that pays the bills.
This is just what I always wanted to do as a form of expression.
@J4Jayden: Yes
Tho can I recommend experimenting further to get the right balance in the slider between
female shadow silhoutte ……. VS ………………… Not Safe For Work material
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@payton: Thank you! I will experiment more with this collection and cover both sides of the slider above!
@J4Jayden: I asked because personally (and seemingly also to many others) it comes across immediately as erotica, and if that's not your intent it might be something to think about.
I don't have an issue with erotica, just that I expect many would consider it in a different category than much other art - it could be confrontational without proper preparation, in some cases you may even be losing the interest of those who are specifically after erotica. Hence introducing it as erotica may be more appropriate than just "art."
@afoveht: I agree with your observations. If more than 50% of engaged audience things its erotica, I have an obligation to either better present the art or term it correctly.
@J4Jayden: Looks way to cartoonish for me and unimaginative, want the female form etc go here and see masters at work inc comic style art basically that is your competition and already established
@ShannonN: Harsh critique is good critique.
It indeed is cartoon-ish. Old styles cartoons are 2D layered colors.
So is my style! Great observation. This is exactly what I am going for.
OMG YOU HAVE A CAT! AND IT'S A FLUFFY CAT!
Haha, yeah! Thats Scooby. Rescue cat. Poor lad needed a home as he was found to be too aggressive.
I beg to differ. Such a gentle creature.
Soft porn.
I prefer to just hang the double page spread from penthouse mag on my walls
I respect your opinion. In a way, it is.
Oi, mark that NFSW will ya?
Not my taste in art that's for sure. Nothing wrong with buying prints online though, and your price is far from extortionate.
Thanks brendanm.
I understand! Art, in any form, can either be good or very bad. Haha! Hopefully I get to create something that you'll like at some stage!
Very true, it's quite individual. I'll keep an eye out! I actually like your website, at least on mobile anyway.
Also if I may please request any feedback to make the website better, I would really appreciate it!
Website looks really good. What's it built in?
I used Shopify. It was the easiest to work with.
Thanks!
Looks good but I think the link to your gallery should be more prominent and perhaps not at the bottom
It would be the first/second thing I look for in an artist's page.
Thanks! I will add a few more images of my photos to the top slider.
Website looks very very professional but if I was looking to buy art online I can’t say it gives me the right vibe.
I really like the style of your work. However introducing the site with a great big picture of you (a young male) and then leading onto your current only subject matter of girls getting undressed gives a creepy vibe (to me)
Like @payton says above, I think making your work the first thing you introduce could be better.
inspired by Malcolm Liepke
Malcolm Liepke has a massive body of work, sure a lot of it is provocative and sensual in the same way that yours is, but he has a heap of stuff that is in the same painterly style that isn't of girls taking off their clothes - it helps balance out how his collection perceived and appreciated.
You seem to have focussed onto creating homages of his erotic works only, until you expand your portfolio you are kind of open to being criticised as using art as a justification for being overt in your appreciation of “sensuality of a the female form”
Please take all this as constructive criticism – good on you for giving this a shot.
Very well balanced comment.
I agree with everything you have mentioned above. Absolutely everything.
I will be overhauling the website over the weekend and action all the points raised by Payton, yourself and other members.
I also have two pieces from my India collection ready that should balance out the rest of the artwork.
Thank you so much! It's a learning curve and this discussion has provided a great insight!
Yes I would, as long as the shipping isn't over the top.
I'm looking for a series of 3 prints to hang on my huge wall at home. Will check out your stuff.
I checked Aus Post and the shipping seemed to be AUD 9.99 for express just for the print or between 12 to 29.99 based on the weight and the size in case its framed.
I found that to be pretty standard
Great art work! I’d start hitting up conventions and getting an artist alley table. They are fairly cheap and an easy way to get your art in front of the masses. Put an anime or super hero spin in the art and I’m sure you will have some success. Expand to a small range of Shirts too. I have attended countless conventions as an exhibitor and every year it is the usual stuff but the odd vendor gets something sort of different and does well. Lots of vendors just travel Australia all year and live off of their convention sales. Check out supanova, Oz comic con, madfest. Those are the three big ones.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! What a great piece of advice. Can yo uplease tell me more about artist alley table. What exactly is that? Sounds interesting!
Not a bad idea. I might get a pocket print to start with!
https://www.animefestival.com.au/exhibitors-and-creators/
You can google the other conventions and simply check the exhibitor sections. Best thing to do is attend the next show and see what it is about and ask the artists for advice etc. the industry is very open and sharing in general.
Keen to see the dead pool cross over!! Two of my fave characters too!!! Get them done and I will plug them on dungeon crawl Facebook. Just pm me later.
I also like the super hero / anime twist idea. I am definitely going to work a piece up.
I also like the super hero / anime twist idea
Please post back if you ever get this into your prints. Unfortunately your current ones clash with my decor (and probably visitors, etc haha) but love the style and do have empty walls.
I literally just started a deadpool + dragonball Z clash! haha! Two my my fav characters. let's see what we get.
@profar: Most certainly.
Not touching original characters. Basically the characters reproduces but not to a level where it infringes copyrights.
@J4Jayden: Cool because not my field .
Anyway soft porn not everyone cup of tea . As you expand try to catch all the tea's m8 :)
@profar: Thanks Profar! I am most certainly looking at touching other areas. Thank you for your feedback!
"I'm thinking about selling my art online, here's the online store I've already created and a link to it" - I think you've got it figured out already ;)
Basically keep doing this, get your site to as many eyes as possible, most won't like it but some will, and some of those will buy it. Marketing 101.
I'd actually look at conventions based around sex, sexpo and whatever else there is like that. You'd be doing a lot better to hit your target market for what you have right now. Problem with sites that have high volume like facebook market and deviantart is you won't get the pricing you want and you'll only ever get a very small piece of a very large pie.
There are a zillion artists out there selling stuff, so make sure you understand your audience and how to target them. Prints are especially hard - anyone can sell prints and anyone can steal your design and throw it on redbubble for half the price.
Great feedback! Thanks Free Fall. That's a market I didn't even think of. I am going to look around and see what's our there!
Sell two versions. limited runs (1/10), printed on high-quality stock and signed and after those are gone, sell cheaper non numbered/non signed prints
WOw! This! Thats a terrific idea.
This is something I would need to technically make possible. Fatastic way to add and keep value to the prints. Thanks a lot Mercsal!
Your art is not to my taste, but I really dislike the whole "printed" art unless it is a self regulated limited edition short run (so like you'll only ever print 100/500/1000 etc. and then never again) unless of course you are going to sell the prints at like $10 a pop or something. But the whole people selling prints for >$100 and basically will sell as many as people will buy really devalues the art imho.
That is a fair observation.
All the prints are limited to 100 per size per design! :)
But I am already thinking about limiting them further as a few of the members have suggested above.
are you a fan of Patrick Nagel?
MASSIVE!
The female form? Not a freaking chance. That's about as lazy as 'art' gets.
err abstract art would be as lazy as it gets.
It takes almost 50 hours to complete one of these.
Maybe the style is lazy, but it's mine! Thank you for your comment. I will try and put on some piece with more details.
I've bought prints from Etsy, and while I did spend time a lot of time looking, I am sure there were thousands upon thousands prints I never laid eyes on. I can see how hard it would be for an artist to get themselves front and centre on such a site unless a buyer is looking for something really specific.
I know you need to sell the items first but I would advise you to pay attention to how you package items for mailing. Sellers that took extra care with packaging, maybe including something as simple as including a business card or piece of paper with artist info or tips on caring for and displaying the art work, are the ones I have gone back to to buy more pieces.
I have a hand written calligraphic note included in my prints as a form of certificate of authenticity. I also include a secondary 4 X 5 print (framed) as a thank you note!
I have just started and I am not making much money after a high quality print is done and it's framed. However, that is not my intent anyway. I have a 9 to 5 job to pay the bills. I just want to get the word out tbh.
a poll would be good