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Not the cheapest it has been but still a great price as the MSI 5700XT Evoke is $729 at PCCG and Mwave has the Sapphire Pulse for $799.
Unless you guys think the AIBs are worth 100 bucks extra to the blower model?
Asrock AMD Radeon 5700XT 8GB GDDR6 $599.20 Delivered @ Tech Mall eBay
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Why exactly wouldn't you buy any GPU over $600?
It is the Australian dollar.
Gamers Nexus quoted a $10 USD diff between the reference 5700XT AMD blower and Sapphire's Pulse card.
The Pulse AIB design blew the reference blower card out of the water in every metric.
NewEgg has the Pulse listed at $409 USD, which is $10 USD over the $399.99 USD asking price.
The Pulse is OOS but there's an Asrock AIB equivalent for the same price in stock.
$10 USD isn't anywhere near a $100 AUD markup… and the US even has those tariffs going on don't they?
So if you are in the market to buy one now. Would you pay the extra "Aussie tax" for the AIB or get the blower AMD card for a more reasonable pricing ?
Seeing as they've just come out I'd wait on pricing. Black Friday unless you really need a card now.
I run a near silent rig so I've never owned a blower card. They tend to thermal throttle pretty hard and offer terrible acoustic/thermal performance.
Why are you using AIB like that? You realise that every single discrete GPU is an AIB since it stands for Add-In Board? If you're referring to the cooling design the terms are reference and non-reference.
Certain parts of the internet starting misusing the term and it is spreading. Drives me crazy - people don't even care even though the truth is right there in the expanded initialism.
*$399.99 USD blower card asking price.
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The AIB's are worth the $100 extra for sure.
AIB stands for Add-In Board. Every single discrete GPU is an AIB. Every single PCIe WiFi controller is an AIB. A PCIe RAID card is an AIB.
GPU designs are either reference or non-reference.
Yes, exactly and to be even more pedantic, they can have non-reference PCB designs or simply just non-reference coolers.
It is a new term manufacturers and reviewers have started using. Originally it was "AIB partner", but that seems to have been shortened.
@Major Mess: Even AIB partner makes no sense in that situation. AIB partner means they just manufacture GPUs (in this case).
Just because they're using it incorrectly doesn't mean you have to. Be the change you want to see in the world.
@Tacooo: Are you for real? Manufacturers and others can call things whatever they want. OEM today means a completely different thing compared to what it did 30 years ago.
It is an Add In Board Partner's version of a product made by the GPU manufacturer. it is not that hard to understand how they got there.
@Major Mess: Yeah why wouldn't I be? Sure they can call it whatever they want and I can call a bus a llama but I'd still be wrong.
Use of "AIB" aside, dubious to say they're worth $100 extra. I picked up a reference 5700 XT for $570, and it's fine. It's quiet at idle, noise does ramp up under load, but I wear headphones when gaming anyway, so not a big deal. I'll put a waterblock on it (just waiting on the block), so I'm happy to take the saving, but even if I was keeping it on air, I wouldn't pay $700 for a custom 5700 XT. At that price, I'd just get a 2070 Super.
So you end up paying more, have the same performance, and a cooling solution with poor longevity?
Slightly more, but if you have a custom loop why not include it?
Increased performance when overclocked. Water gives you thermal headroom to do so.
I'm happy to change water every other year for a far superior cooling solution.This is the first argument I've ever seen against custom loop water cooling. Surely you must be trolling.
But you do you buddy.@nofate: The cards are power locked at the bios level so the headroom has been removed. Basically no matter the temp etc the performance has been similar. The Powercolor was reviewed by Hardware Unboxed yesterday and has done the best so far, but results within the margin of error. There are heaps of reviews you could check out.
Liquid cooling has many issues which have been discussed in many places.
Considering your lack of research, surely you must be trolling?
@nofate: @nofate Yep, and Steve from Hardware Unboxed found the same and there is bugger all to gain, and it may also be limited by memory speed.
@Major Mess: For me it's temps and noise. If I hadn't got the card 2nd hand I wouldn't have been able to justify the waterblock.
@Major Mess: You clearly don't get the rationale behind watercooling. You don't watercool for performance. If you just cared about performance, get a Noctua NH-D15 and put the rest of the cooling budget to buying better hardware.
Don't get why you feel so strongly about this - I never said that you should watercool or that it's a good idea. The funny part is that the arguments you come out with are exactly how I feel about watercooling.
Paying more? Yup.
Same performance? Marginally better, but pretty much same.
Less longevity? Eh, more maintenance and effort, sure.
Happy?
I watercool because I enjoy it, I've been doing this since the 90's and the culture around watercooling has really changed and evolved and it's always good fun to be able to take some time to design something worthwhile.
Doing the same, picked up one for $500, waterblock is being delivered today. That's my Saturday sorted.
Yeah I really want to get a 5700 xt for the new build I did but I don’t want a blower style card and the price of the new partner cards are ridiculous here in Australia right now. So I ended up getting a second hand RX 580 for $140 and that’ll do me until the sales come later in the year. I’ll upgrade to a 1440p monitor too so I better start saving!
Once Vega and Radeon VII inventory clears these should drop in price. These should ideally be closer to $500 than $600.
I'd wait for more non-reference models to hit the market.
For sure wait for Non Ref Cards.
I got 5700XT at launch knew I would either do some customer cooler mod on it anyway.Undervolted and adjust fan profiles it's quite enough but does run very hot still..
Coming from 1070 with AIO that would idle 25deg and full load of 55deg… stock card at 60-90deg is Very hot haha..
I am really enjoying the software sharpening and anti lag implementation AMD have though!
You will be surprised by the custom cards. In comparison the AMD coolers are useless. Check out the Hardware Unboxed's results with the triple fan Powercolor. 1300rpm fans standard and maxed at 1400rpm, and temps maxed around 65C from memory.
i refuse to buy a AIB for over $600. no idea whats going on with the massive rort these online retailers have been offering. cant believe i been buying all my gear from ebay these days.