Hungry Jacks introduce meat-free "Rebel Whopper"

100% Whopper, 0% Beef
Rebel Whopper® features a patty made from plants, flame-grilled to give the irresistible smoky, BBQ flavour just like our classic Whopper®. Loaded with crisp fresh lettuce, ripe hand-cut tomatoes, onion, pickles, mayo and tomato sauce on a toasted sesame seed bun.

Hungry Jacks are now offering a mock-beef burger.
Apparently it tastes like a real whopper.
There's also a Rebel Whopper Cheese.

This price is $6.70, same as a regular Whopper.
Or $7.50 with cheese, same as a regular Whopper Cheese or a Vegan Cheeseburger.
Typically other food chains charge $13 or $15 for these types of burgers so this is a much cheaper offering.

Has anyone tried it?
What are your thoughts on this?

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  • 145
    Don't care
  • 390
    Nice to have this available
  • 20
    They shouldn't have this available

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    • +1

      As far as vegetarian meat substitutes goes, quorn is probably the best I've had. So if it tastes like quorn, that's pretty good!

      That said, it's still hungry jacks. You have to set your expectations based on their normal burgers.

  • +3

    I tried it and thought it was quite nice. It tasted similar to (not the same) as a whopper but I think I'd prefer it to the whopper as its lets greasy.

  • +1

    Keen to try it to be honest.

  • +5

    I tried it, I think it tastes better than the beyond burger v1 (which can leave a bit of an after taste and doesn't quite crisp up as good as this) but about as good as beyond burger v2. It's thinner than v1. Good texture, flame grill flavour. I didn't find it dry at all. The burger overall was pretty good for the $$$, but obviously not quite as the gourmet joints re bun, condiments etc.

    But still not as good as the Impossible Burger. That thing had me thinking many times that they gave me the wrong burger when I was in the US last year. Can't wait until we can get that here.

  • +1

    I wonder if they will do the Whopper deal on these - 2 for $9 or so???

  • +5

    I had a Rebel Whopper today and was pleasantly surprised.

    It had a slightly pastier texture than a traditional Whopper patty, and a beanier taste. But it was tasty and meaty enough to scratch my fast food itch.

    It’s a shame it isn’t a truly vegan burger. The mayonnaise has egg in it, and the cheese is…well…cheese. Not to mention that it’s cooked on the same grill as meat products.

    At the moment, it’s a quirky addition to the menu. But I’d love to see truly vegan replacements for the Whopper, and other key menu items in the future.

    • So, not halal?

      • Unfortunately not.
        Hungry Jacks beef isn’t Halal, and these burgers are cooked on the same grill.

        • That's what I thought, though I thought the bacon may have been cooked on their briefly?

    • I don't care about it being cooked on the same grill. You can switch out the mayo and cheese for the vegan versions for no extra cost, they're not amazing though. When I tried this they kept thinking I wanted bacon, even when they understood I wanted vegan mayo and cheese they still added the bacon and I again had to tell them I didn't want bacon. We got there though.

    • -5

      Hahaha so true! It’s same as I hate you but I love your taste too lol. No issues if one has dietary preferences but why eat mock food.

      • -1

        why do you CARE

        • -1

          Hahahahaha

      • -5

        It’s same as I hate you but I love your taste too lol.

        This discussion brings to mind some women and their insistence on staying with their physically abusive/wife-bashing husbands.

    • +33

      lets be honest here, most people don't give up meat because they don't like the taste of it. Having these options allows you to reduce your meat consumption without feeling like you're missing out. I for one welcome our new faux-bros

      • +12

        Pretty much, for me at least I don't eat meat for ethical reasons - I like the taste of it, meat tastes nice, I just don't want to eat it.

    • +8

      Typical ignorant response.

      Whether i agree or not, there is a belief that meat (especially beef) is not a sustainable protein source, with increasing population. This gives people the option to choose.

    • +4

      If you want to eat meat stop trying to make your meat taste like plants. Cut out the garlic, onions, black pepper, and olive oil.

    • +2

      I don't understand why people don't understand these fake meat patties. Why is it so hard to believe that vegetarians like the taste of meat when you like the taste of meat?

      • Generally people become vegetarian or vegan because of ethical reasons. What's ethical about eating a product that tastes like the thing you're ethically opposed to eating?

        • +1

          You’re arguing against yourself. It’s ethical to eat vegan/vegetarian, irrespective of taste.

    • I'm the same, don't get these fake meat products. My wife is a vegan and she won't eat these because they taste like meat. I won't eat these because I like to eat meat when I can, don't get much at home with the wife being vegan. I don't think there's too much of a market for these and they are a bit of a fad. Don't know why you got some much down votes either.

      • What about the third group that like the taste of meat but don't want to eat it for ethical reasons?

        • -5

          Some people might call these hypocrites

          • @Rockets84: There's nothing hypocritical about it at all. Why wouldn't "some people" respect someone that gives up something they like because of a moral principle, ie. they don't like inflicting harm on animals? It's actually a lot harder than giving up something that you don't like in the first place.

          • @Rockets84: Those who say they care for animals are the hypocrites. If you pay someone to slaughter and then eat them, you don’t care.

  • -1

    If they were serious the burger would contain no plant matter that exploits the labour of animals such as bees thru pollination.

    • +18

      Not to mention the poor yeast used to grow the buns. We pamper and nourish yeast, so that it produces CO2 as it grows. Then we stick it in an oven and roast the yeast to death.

      Won't someone think of the yeast!

      • +8

        Fairly sure this burger consists of ingredients that at one time have cast a shadow.
        No good if you are a level 5 vegan.

      • +4

        that's the yeast of our worries.

      • Yeast? Vegetables?
        No brain, no pain.

        Bees? That's their natural behaviour.
        Idiots.

    • +2

      Are you in a job? I'd hate to think someone out there is exploiting the mentally handicapped.

    • Can you give a specific example of plant matter used in these burgers that exploits the labour of animals?

      • +2

        You mean besides the thousands of rodents (poisoned and hacked to death by harvesters), birds (shot and poisoned) and native habitats (where fox, dear, wallabies, kangaroos used to survive) that were completely obliterated to grow and protect the wheat, soy, etc?

        Or do you mean the millions of litres of fresh water that gets diverted from poor human villages in third world countries, leaving the villagers to die from dysentery just so the farmers can grow Avocardos for the western world?

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        • Firstly, that is not related to exploitation so did not answer my question. Secondly, there is far less land and far less water used in the production of these burgers than for the meat versions. I don't accept that because something cannot be produced perfectly without harm, than it is equivalent to the option that causes far more harm, uses far more land and far more water.

          • @dazweeja: Clearly you have no idea on how farms are run, because you can't just plant crops in one field indefinitely due to soil depletion!

            Without those grazing animals you will run out of land to plant those precious crops in 2-4 years depending on how hard you work the fields (some farmers will grow 3 harvests per year per field, then rotate the entire field out for grazing, others will grow one harvest per year while sustaining it).

            But hey, why let some operational knowledge of farming get in the way of an ethical belief spread by propaganda that completely excludes any actual facts from the farmers producing said crops!

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            • -1

              @7ekn00: I grew up in the bush, I know how crops work. I find it hard to believe that anyone would think that the majority of the world's meat, or even a significant proportion, would be produced using crop-pasture rotation systems. Commercial farms do monocrop year after year - that's what fertilisers are for - with minimal fallow/cover crop rotations. But let's go further - in America 67% of crops are grown for animal feed. It takes about 100 calories of grain to produce 3 calories worth of beef. But go on - tell me what proportion of the world's meat is produced using crop-pasture rotation systems?

              • @dazweeja: PROPAGANDA!

                Globally, 40% of grains go to animals (you can google it) and that is crops rejected for human consumption!

                As above, it's clear you have zero knowledge of any farming industry, because if you did, you would know a lot of grain crops are rejected for human consumption, so farmers recoup costs by selling as Tier 2 :/

                At this point it is pretty clear you are just rehashing info from propaganda "mockumentaries" with zero thought or independent research ;)

                It's no different than talking to a Mormon :P

                Enjoy the bloat and GI issues, brain fog, lack of libido, anxiety, brittle bones and lack of physical or mental healing from the lack of Vitamin B12, D3, K2, EPA/DHA, Glycine, Choline, Creatinine and CLA on your death diet! It's no wonder 84% of people that give up meat go back to eating meat ;)

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                • -2

                  @7ekn00: So no evidence for your claim that the world's meat is produced using crop-pasture rotation systems? Instead you want to talk about all the land in addition to that used exclusively for grazing is also used to produce meat. Come back when you know how to form a rational argument.

                  • @dazweeja: LOL typical deflection of a single point because you can't address the rest!

                    Who can't form rational complete responses ;)

                    I know, must be the brain fog - been vegan, destroyed my health, but at least learnt what humans really need to be healthy, just never going back (and more importantly do not want it forced upon me by self righteous hypocrits) ;)

                    Doing my part - completely off-grid, feeding a family of 5 from local grass fed and finished sources (no fossil fuel pollution)!

                    What is your contribution?
                    Where are all those fruit and vegetables shipped/trucked/flown from? What are they packaged in? Still reliant on grid electricity? Still driving a petrol car?

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                    • -2

                      @7ekn00: You've missed the point entirely. I was very clear about meat production using far more land and far more water. You understand that, right?

                      Apparently, you think that the percentage of land devoted to crops that also supports the meat industry - in addition to that used exclusively for grazing - is the central argument. Of course it isn't. That just means that even more land is used in support of the meat industry. We can talk about that but it is purely secondary.

                      Look, I'll make this very, very simple for you. Of the 394 million hectares of land operated by agricultural businesses in Australia, 341 million hectares (or 87%) is used for grazing. In addition, producing meat is a highly inefficient means of food production. The water footprint of a soy burger is 7% of the water footprint of the average beef burger in the world.

                      Do you get it now? Address the main point please. You are talking around the edges of the problem. Meat production uses far more land and far more water. I am absolutely correct and your argument is completely untenable.

                      Source:
                      https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/mf/4627.0
                      https://research.utwente.nl/en/publications/the-water-footpr…

                      • @dazweeja: Ah, got it, must swallow the propaganda again!

                        Sorry, will only do what I can personally, rather than just hypocritically spout cherry picked data as propaganda against others ;)

                        For example - how much of that grazing land is actually suitable for crops?!? Can the reason it requires more water be because it can be grazed, but not cropped (like outback cattle stations)?!? etc etc etc with all the cherry picked financially motivated "scientific data"

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                        • -2

                          @7ekn00: Land use statistics from the Australian Bureau of Statistics is propaganda? Solid argument.

                          • @dazweeja: ROFL it is when the Simpson Desert and all of the NT are designated as "Grazing" suitable (in YOUR ABS link)!

                            No wonder your "statistics" are heavily biased!

                            But no, lets not use our own brains to assess the data, lets swallow that propaganda!

                            Also, given the returns on crops are 2-3x that of cattle, don't you think it's in the farmers best interest to make the most they can from their land?!? So why would they under utilize it when so many farmers are struggling?!? But hey, these points invalidate your argument, can't possibly address them!

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  • +6

    I'm still waiting to try a carrot made of meat.

  • Anyone know if you can just switch out the patties when using a coupon? Or does it go through as a completely different item to get this burger?

    Personally I wish they'd do a whopper junior version, for some reason I prefer the whopper jnr.

    • I think it's because they use younger employees in the pattie.

    • Previously, the whooper vouchers specified substituting Vegan Cheeseburger for the Evil Dead Animal Whooper in the whooper meal coupon. But in the latest (and perhaps last) set of paper vouchers this option was removed.

  • I’d try it if I could get it on a voucher deal

    • Hi, I just grabbed 2 as part of the 2 for $8.45 whopper deal. The Team member went to find their manager, who probably said just do it, and use the whopper sku. Hence the invoice said 2 whoppers $8.45.
      Don't do it when their busy, or the orders may get mixed up.

  • +1

    Not a big fan but willing give it a go but not at 6.70.

    • Try using the 2 for $8.45 whopper deal.

  • +3

    "made from plants"

    Rebel Patty (Water, Soy Protein, Vegetable Oil, Thickeners (461, 1442) Flavours (IncludingGlutamic Acid (620)), Dextrose, Caramel Colour (150c), Antioxidants (300, 307), SmokeFlavour).

    • +24

      Everyone's a nutritionist as soon as the vegan option becomes available…

    • +18

      What do you think plants are made of? Mother nature?

      Soy protein - they extract the protein from soybeans
      Vegetable oil - self explanatory
      Thickener 461 - Methyl cellulose. This is basically the Chinese newspaper filling but it binds it together, basically vegan gelatin. Will help also you poop.
      Thickener 1442 - Resistant starch. Probably from potatoes, easiest source of it
      Glutamic Acid 620 - Extracted from either vegetables or meat. Going to assume not meat, but gives meaty umami
      Dextrose - Sugar, from sugar cane
      Caramel III (150c) - Sugar heated in the presence of ammonia. If you don't like it, stop drinking beer.
      Antioxidant 300 - Ascorbic acid, aka Vitamin C
      Antioxidant 307 - Synthetic alpha tocopherol, synthetic vitamin E. If you eat meat you're getting this anyway, because they feed this stuff by the bucketload to animals already.
      Smoke flavour - if it's actual liquid smoke it's made of wood. We've been making this shit for millenia.

      Food additives are still usually made of food, just specific extracts of the food that are sometimes treated in food safe ways (you're far less likely to get sick eating Thickener 461 than some lettuce). We could easily call cuts of steak "Meat Item 629" which makes it sound more scary but doesn't mean it actually is.

      • -1

        The ingredient list is not that bad.

        150c gets manufactured with 4-Methylimidazole in the States, which is known to cause cancer, not sure if Australia manufactures it in the same way.

        Other than that, have 620 in moderation, otherwise large amounts can kill cells. But, I would imagine overdosing would be pretty much impossible unless you literally pour the stuff on everything.

        • +6

          4-Methylimidazole was found to cause cancer in rats when consumed at a level equivalent of drinking thousands of cans of coke every day for 2 years. You don't even need to have this in moderation, go nuts, the dextrose in the burger will kill you with diabetes long before that chemical will.

      • Vegetable oil - self explanatory

        LOL you would think so, but the process is extremely detailed and processed (you know you can't just squeeze a vegetable for it to leak oil right?)

        The bleaching, cleaning and de-odorizing process can be summarized here: http://www.madehow.com/images/hpm_0000_0001_0_img0077.jpg

        The write up on actual chemicals used can be seen in the full process here: http://www.madehow.com/Volume-1/Cooking-Oil.html

        Yummy, can't wait for that side of bleach with my vegetable oil!

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    • -2

      LMAO the veggie patties are like a science project of synthetic shite

      • +3

        The only synthetic thing there is Antioxidant 307 - and you'll find that in the cheese anyway.

  • +6

    As long as the meat version sticks around, don't care and good on them to have this on offer.

  • +3

    I hope it gets some flavour by being cooked in the beef patties oil !

    • +1

      Aren't they cooked on a broiler - i.e. no oil to soak in?

      • Yes it's cooked on a broiler. I guess @profar meant the meat fat

  • I dont really care ill probably try to tho didnt mind the vegan breakfast muffin but i prefer real meat

    • +1

      but i prefer real meat

      That's what she said!

  • +5

    No way it would taste the same

    • It doesn’t, but it is genuinely quite tasty.

    • it is not the purpose.

      • +3

        "Apparently it tastes like a real whopper."

    • It tastes quite similar. I'd have to compare them side to side but if you gave it to someone they'd eat it and not think you gave them a vego whopper.

  • No. Simple as that.

  • +1

    Can I add an extra meat beef to this burger? So I can play both sides. :P

    • +3

      A guy who worked at burger king that I knew used to always make his own aussie burger by adding a veggie pattie. He loved the combination

  • I got to try the Impossible Whopper which was pretty good in terms of taste and texture as a meat eater i approve and now i will definitely give this Rebel Whopper a go.

    The Vegan Cheeseburger on the other hand is not what a meat eater would enjoy, i found the vege burger HJ's used to have was actually quite tasty due to the non vegan regular mayo and cheese.

    It's too bad Impossible Foods don't want to expand outside of the USA, but they only recently expanded the Impossible Whopper nationwide maybe one day.

  • +4

    I tried the rebel whopper and it tasted very similar to the whopper. Just makes me ask how much meat is in the regular whopper patty to begin with.

  • +3

    any coupons???

    • Show them the 2 whoppers for $8.45 deal (like I did). The assistant couldn't find a sku, so put it as 2 x whoppers. No reason, why they shouldn't substitute it.

  • -1

    Soylent Green, anyone????

  • For those that are wanting to try, but worried about the price, maybe contact Hungry Jacks, and suggest they do a 2 for 8.45 deal, or a $6.95 small combo deal etc.
    I assume HJ have poured a lot of money into this, in marketing etc and don't want it to fail.

  • +1

    Hi all.. does the rebel taste anything like the beyond patties at grill'd and ribs n burgers? The beyond patties tasted disgusting to me.. and had a really long bad aftertaste..I was feeling sick until lunch time the next day.

    I'm not sure whether to try the rebel.. can someone tell me if it tastes similar if it is supposed to be an imitation like beyond?

    I don't mind veggie patties.. I tried the vegan cheese burger pattie..

    Thanks in advance

    • I didn't have a problem. I haven't had a vegie burger from HJ in years, but I found them bland, taseless and not great value for money. This is far improved. Do what I did and ask if you can use the 2 for $8.45 voucher, or similar deal. Just do it when they are not busy so the order doesn't get mucked up(or if they are busy they may say just do it, anyway!).

    • It's supposed to be imitation like Beyond or Impossible.

      The fact that Beyond and Impossible have done so well in the marketplace suggests it's an issue of either those places or the flavour is somehow incompatible with your tastebuds. Mostly tastes like a pretty decent beef pattie to most people.

    • It's better than Beyond Burger, no after-taste.

  • +1

    On a side note, I have emailed HJ's and suggested they introduce a 2 for $8.45 sku and/or a $6.95 small combo deal, to help boost initial sales.

    • Yeah I did the same on their instagram, was pretty expensive for 2 people last night

  • I am waiting for celiac friendly HJ's, Maccas, KFC etc.

    Not demanding it, but I sure would like it. Been ages since I went for a late night run :(

    • 2 meat patties as buns so a 3 patty cheeseburger.

  • Wonder how much flavour enhancer 621 goes into these.

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