Good price for the Nest Protects
Battery - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Google-3696923-Nest-Protect-...
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So seriously, why is this better than a normal smoke detector? It lets you know your home is on fire when you're away?
I have these, they are awesome. The best thing about it, it lets you know before it goes off. I had a really sensitive detector and I couldn't make toast without setting it off. Now, I want to make a seared steak, it will warn "There is smoke gathering in the kitchen" and you just acknowledge it and it won't go off. There is a safe limit that will not allow you to silence, likewise, you can't silence CO alarms.
Second awesome feature is they have a path light. Have them in the kids' room and when it detects movement, turn on a low path light that gives the room a soft glow and you can find our way.
Lastly, they are self-testing. Every week they test their siren, detectors, and battery.
So whenever you cook in the kitchen would this send you a warning message and you need to turn off the warning every time you cook? This is a genuine question out of my ignorance of the product. Thanks.
Certain foods are very smokey, pretty much anything that is seared in oil/fat. I have a pretty decent range hood but a good steak will always set off my smoke detector.
Ideally, I wouldn't have a smoke detector in the kitchen, but I never built this kitchen.
Only if your cooking produces smoke that makes its way to the detector. Alarms shouldn't;t be positioned so close to the kitchen that they go off every time you cook. (unless you burn something severely eveytime you cook).
@mouth: tho you do need them close enough to detect if you have a fire in the kitchen
depends on how smokey you cook
Spot on, isn't that enough to justify the purchase?
You can always buy other interconnected smoke alarms, this isnt for everyone, but those that have them and use them like them
I perfer being told that there is smoke in the kitchen, or in the kids room, so you know where its coming from, and you get a warning before it just goes off. If you rather just the ringing at 3am becuase you dont know if the battery is flat well then thats up to you
To be honest you make that sound like a useless thing.
You're not the one that is able to put a fire out, you can call the fire department in your local area from the other side of the world.
That being said, I would hope your home doesn't spontaneously combust when you're on holidays.
Though you never know with all those eneloops.
Here’s a good read
I purchased and installed two of these from the last good deal, if i had some spare $ i'd buy more now. When cooking / detecting smoke it gives you an option to ignore and not alarm, The light feature is the real win though, its handy to have it light up on movement and it throws a good, yet not disturbing to others amount of light. i'll be installing more at a later date. the only real concern is that these may not meet the standards for interconnection for the state you are in.
Shame Google crippled their ability to work with IFTTT and other smart devices, these were a good detector.
Is it mean this smoke alarm can't be intergrate with Home Assiatant ?
I thought about this… then thought, do I really need these connected to my Home assistant/hub? I couldn't really see any benefit except being able to silence the alarm with voice. I guess now that I've said that now I really want to be able to connect this to my home setup :-/
Could do things like if the alarm goes off at night then it turns on your lights, so you can see the way out without fumbling for your phone or finding a light switch.
@WazzaP: Yes in the event of a fire you could turn all your lights on, turn the TV/Radio/Stereo off so you can communicate with people in the house, turn off the aircon to help prevent the fire spreading, turn off smart plugs, flash an outside light red so neighbours/emergency services can spot the house, you could unlock smart locks and garages such as Gogogate so you can get out, you could call a neighbour and so on.
We you could until Google killed off interoperability with services other then their own.
@LowRange: That is pretty shit, and kills it for me - glad I read your post as I was considering one, but if it won't play nicely with my other smart home stuff (non google) then it's not worth the $$.
It's also IMO going to become an issue with IOT/Smart home devices - they'll only work while the developer supports them, and only with things approved by the developer (who can change their mind at any time) - I got stung with some Xiaomi cameras that they changed to only work from China (but then after complaints allowed you to request international access, but that only fixed 3/4 for me, and only after half dozen requests before they actually did anything). I now prefer things that can be flashed to allow local control (eg a lot of devices that use tuya).
I integrate my nest account purely because it’s a very reliable method of presence detection for people. Use that to automate other things like starting our robot vacuum when we leave the house.
That's only if you migrate your Nest account to Google.
Leave it at Nest and everything continues as-is.
Except you can't create a new nest account, nor can you create a new developer account for HA.
Personally, not enough to justify to me over a $7 standard smoke and CO detector.
I guess the interconnected part is the big thing. If you buy a wired interconnected SD you'll need to run a dedicated power cable and daisy chain them through your roof. This is simple with easy access but can be very difficult and will probably be expensive. Standard smoke detectors will be illegal in QLD in the coming years with all homes required to migrate to an interconnected system by 2027, with the majority by 2022. https://www.qld.gov.au/about/newsroom/smoke-alarm-legislatio...
edit : not illegal, but they wont meet the requirements to lease or own a home / business. You can buy 50 stand alone ones and mount them to every surface.
where are these $7 smoke and co2 detectors that are inter connectable?
Exactly, there isn't any, i was pointing out that $7 ones wouldn't be. i think they start at about $30. I was just saying that these vs inter connectable ones are +$100 but i think the features are there as you can tack them onto existing circuitry.
i was meaning that to Clubhonda
@asa79: Clubhonda was referring to interconnected devices.
One thing note. With the battery version, the batteries really do last a long time. Over a year easily, but when you replace them, the have to put in 6 Energiser Lithium batteries which will set you back about $20 each time. I've tried various cheaper alternatives and it's just no dice. They pretty much require the lithium ones.
Rechargeable batteries a no-go?
I have not tried, and I could be wrong, but most rechargeables will give you about 1.2v, disposable will give you around 1.4v but these need about 1.5v which the lithiums give you.
Thanks for the info, handy to know. What do you mean by 'no dice'? It doesn't work at all with lower voltage batteries?
I wonder if the wired version is compliant in VIC if installed by an elec.
I ordered the battery version but may switch it to hard wired depending on the above.
@neo: I put a brand new set of Duracell and they lasted less than a week before low battery warning, another week before they completely died.
Can't comment on the regulations, I know very little here.
You could, it will tell you when the batteries need replacing and not just go flat
$20 for 5 years isnt a bad investment
Are they meant to last 5 years or is that from experience?
I've never gotten more than about 2 years out of Energizer lithiums in my Nests. Are you really getting 5 years!?
I've had 2 of my nest protect running for around 2 years, on the app it says battery OK, and replace by 2027 so 10 years
Cant see a battery percentage, will have to look into that part
These are great for all the reasons mentioned above by jaymzrsa.
I have two of these and two of the nest outdoor cameras and they all can be operated/monitored from the nest app.
I wish I had the Camera's. I went Ring :-(
I just wondering on whether you can silence (or cancel) the alarm using voice (via Google Home)?
I hate having to find my phone and open the Nest app to silence the alarm…
we have an ipad mounted in kitchen so the big silence button comes up on it when the nest goes off
Has anyone got a few of these mixed with other interconnected smoke alarms?
We are building and will have to have 7, which makes it a bit extensive to use all nest ones.
you cant mix them, as they have their own wifi and communicate with each other
Price is not much compared to other interconnected smoke alarms with similar features
I have 7 of these in my place, and need to add 3 more
In Qld pretty sure they have to be interconnected via wire, not wifi. And the ones being supplied are $30 each. So an extra $700 total to have all nest alarms.
There is no requirement for wired interconnection. As ling as they communicate either wire, Rf or wifi etc
Have a look at the zwave first alert smoke and CO detectors. Between $50 and $70 each. Probably better interconnectivity as it's not a closed system (nest vs zwave). Wish I went with that system myself (instead of the nest).
Thanks OP. Was thinking about getting one of these then forgot.
The battery version has 6 lithium AA batteries. How long would/should these last?
There is a wired version as well
I don't know why but every smoke detector i have put in our hallway keeps going off for no reason. I have tried at least 4 the last one cost me about $60 for the one with a 10 year battery. Any ideas on a solution. Will i have the same problem with these?
Possible I guess. But it has been sitting on top of a chest of drawers for a while now and hasn't made a sound
have you tried one of these?
Could it be that there is some sort of carbon monoxide being detected by your smoke alarm and that’s why it’s going off? This is because Carbon Monoxide is an invisible gas and most of the time is odourless.
Try a smoke alarm that works well elsewhere and test it in your home and take yours and test it in another building/house. Then you can isolate the issue correctly.
Just a thought/ suggestion
Humidity can set off smoke detectors. Most advanced units (such as this one) have humidity detection to reduce false alarms.
Have been looking to get these for my folks. Thanks OP!
Roost smart battery is a retrofit for existing smoke alarms.
The app will tell you if your smoke alarm is triggered.
However, THEY STOPPED SELLING THE BATTERY IN AUSTRALIA.
No, they just stopped selling them direct in Australia.
Now you have to buy them through a reseller, like Telstra…. https://www.telstra.com.au/smart-home/devices-old/roost-smar...
With the wired one, does one need an electrician to come out and install? Or can we replace our existing wired ones ourselves?
The wiring is 240V mains, not interconnect, so you need a licensed electrician.
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