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Baccarat Damashiro Emperor Hisa 9 Piece Knife Block, $299 (down from $1399 Last Week) @ House (Online Only)

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Its the same price as the deal in July 2019.

Currently available at a few places for $400 on sale, but House has an extra 25% off at the moment on their online store.

Don’t forget Cashrewards as well which works out to around $285 for the set

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  • +5 votes

    They've slashed those prices

  • +14 votes

    Inflated rrp.

  • +11 votes

    No way a set of Baccarat knives cost $1399.
    Global 9 piece sets normally go for ~$500ish.

    $299 is probably the regular price.

    • +4 votes

      That's house for you, I don't know who falls for this kind of thing

      • +3 votes

        People who don't do their research.

        Also, global are a Japanese knife company that makes knives for the western world, they're typically a softer steel compared to a typical Japanese knife.

        Baccarat is an Australian brand… Doing Japanese style knives.

        Enough said.

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          Australian brand dong Japanese knifes made in China?

        • +2 votes

          This is way softer than Global knives, which I find a touch too soft as is at 56-58 Rockwell.

          I imagine 53 to be what a decent cheese knife would be.

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            @tshow: where'd ya find 53? i couldn't find jack all on the steel much less the hardness which i'd imagine would be crap.
            53's fine…if you want to have to sharpen it everyday…

            • +1 vote

              @asopherolic:

              Engineered and tested to meet Rockwell 53 specification, guaranteeing the blades hardness and optimum performance

              Right from the retailer's mouth but honestly, they could say it's 35 and their target market wouldn't know elbow from arse.

        • +2 votes

          A good chunk of what youre paying for with Global is the marketing hype, theyre even more overpriced than Shun knives. There are far better Japanese and German makers of knives

          • +2 votes

            @koalaondrugs: Oh, most definitely but I keep a full set of Globals because of the seamless "unibody" construction. Very easy to clean.

            Also, good for guest. I have seen some of my exotic folded mono steels being used against plates. You always need a burner set nearby.

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            @koalaondrugs: Oh god. Thank you for adding that. 1000 points awarded koala. I think many knife sellers push the Globals as there is a higher profit margin… which I'm sure they will deny.
            But more importantly, your thoughts on the matter… this is exactly what it comes down to. Best thing about Global is their marketing people IMO… brilliant.
            I would add I appreciate tshow's comment… easy to clean… and good for guests.
            I would also add, I don't mind the Baccarats'. They sharpen up quite well and have reasonable edge retention IMO.
            At this price… not too bad. Certainly better than (low range) Wiltshires or Scanpans.

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          yup for those which actually do their research would steer way way clear of these knives, unless you're going an Australian blacksmith for a knife

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    This is a good deal at $299 (RRP is a joke).

    I recommend before purchasing to feel the knives in your hand if you havent handled these knives before i.e. weight and balance.

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    Also if you like chopping "hard" things, stay away from these type of knives.
    Not sure if these are as sharp as my Shun, they are incredibly sharp, but aren't designed for chopping hard things, if you hit a bone you will likely chip the knife. Fixable just costs money, as they will need to re-edge the blade.

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      Interesting, I would have thought the opposite being a softer steel than Japanese knives which are brittle as f**k.

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      Shun and global both offer services to re edge your knives for free. Just send them back to them and they will do it. If the chip is bad enough hey will just replace the knife provided it’s been treated well

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        Interested in the global re-edge service. Couldn't find on their website - do you have any details?
        Cheers!

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        Interesting, didn't know that. Do they require a proof of purchase? haha most of my Shun was bought over in Japan because it is like almost 50% cheaper there.

        I did learn how to use a Whetstone though to sharpen them myself. (Also bought a nice King Whetstone from Japan for like 75% cheaper than australia)

  • +9 votes

    My parents just got me a Baccarat Damashiro knife set for Christmas, they overheard me a few weeks back talking to the misses about getting a few nice hand made Japanese knives from Chefs Armoury. They meant well but obviously didn't know what they were looking at (these are mass made cheaply in china from average steel and are nowhere near the quality of good Japanese knives) and thought it was a great deal considering the ridiculous RRP. Just be careful with House, I took the set back for a refund earlier today and found that House don't refund for change of mind, they only refund if faulty. They're happy to exchange for something else in store or give you a gift card, but no chance of a refund. I got the gift card and gave it back to my parents so they can buy themselves something they like.

    • -5 votes

      Fight that.

      If they're truly unused/unopened, you have the right under the ACCC to "cancel the sales contract" at any time.

      You get money back, and they get the product back in new condition.

      It only gets 'iffy' if you've opened the product; TECHNICALLY you still have the right to refund, but the argument and accc rights get a lot more 'open to interperetation'….

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      Your poor parents, on one hand it's great you can be honest with them, especially about a relatively expensive item. On the other hand, sometimes you just have to cop one for the team, and maybe get them out and use them when they come over for dinner, and then put them away when they aren't there. All good, not having a dig :) it just took me a long time to learn that sometimes giving someone the feeling they helped is as important as them helping, or even more important. I wonder what they will do that 300?

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    Man these stupid fake RRP prices. Do they think it's like shitcoin ICO season again that plebs will buy anything for no reason?

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    I think it would be better to spend $300 on JCK. Just buy 2 great knives that will last a lifetime. Whatever you buy you have to have a sharpening strategy

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    Load of crap the RRP, no details about the steel used to make the knives….$1400 yeah right…

  • +1 vote

    They look good. However they are not quite hard enough with only Rockwell 53. Better ones should have at least 58/62 HRC like Shun knives and others. Just my 2c worth :)

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      Hardness index isn't the only thing worth noting.

      I don't trust such mass manufacturing to consistently heat treat every batch nor as I trust mass sharpening process to not overheat and wreck the original temper anyway.

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        I agree and would add this as an example. I am not a fan of Global knives, with 3 exceptions… excellent cleavers, bread knives and tomato knives (in that order).
        HOWEVER I do find that I come across an excellent Global knife… and for some weird reason the smallish ones are more typically garbage, while the larger ones are almost always better.
        Great point about the inconsistencies of mass manufacturing tshow' I wonder if this accounts for the common inconsistencies I see with Global knives.

        I think particularly with knives, this is a sadly an issue and you can only really tell after having used them extensively and after repeated sharpenings'.
        Shuns' are much more consistent… but where consistency is concerned I feel that other Jap' brand knives than Global and the higher end German knives are more consistent.
        Give me a Zwilliing/Henckels' or a Wustoff' any day, many others qualify as well… too many to mention… Ivo' & Tramontina (Brazilian) Victorinox *can be inconsistent (Switzerland)… F.Dick (Germany)… Miyabi (Japan/$$$)… interesting to note, they are made at the Zwilling factory in Japan!

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    With all the talk on here of knives, I bought a set of Tramontina full tang with moulded handles about 12 years ago for 50 bucks half price at Aldi. I have to say they have been great, and I sharpen them myself, although I am not the best sharpener I hope the practice I am getting makes me better. When they are sharp though, they are great, I cant fault them, and most of the people I know have way worse knives. Are Japanese knives going to give me a better experience?

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      Are Japanese knives going to give me a better experience?

      I haven't seen Tramontina knives before, but Japanese knives typically are lighter than your typical german knives.

      I personally love Victorinox knives, ridiculously good value for their asking price.

      If you don't want to splurge yet, no need to buy an entire set, buy a victorinox chef's knife (20cm) and try them out yourself.
      If you have a friend with a true Japanese knife (NOT global), ask to see if you can try their knives out before you commit.

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        I concur completely and would add… Tramontina are quite good, especially considering the purchase price.
        I also agree with you on Globals. Over rated and can be inconsistent in quality/hardness.

  • +1 vote

    Parents just got this set. The fold marks are printed on lol.

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      Not sure what you were expecting, even says it in the product description.

      characterised by distinctive damascus inspired patterns on the blade

      • +2 votes

        characterised by distinctive damascus inspired patterns on the blade

        "Damascus" steel is usually done by chemical etching by acid.. not.. printed haha

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          I might be wrong here. I assumed the wavy lines on the side of knives were the result of folding then sharpening.

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            @grasspun: You're not but proper Damascus is labour intensive and expensive. A cheap no name brand describing their blades as "damascus inspired patterns" will just be cast or stamped and etched.

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            @grasspun: The lines are usually generated when they layer 2 (or more) different types of metals (alternating) then they forge weld (Smack them together) it to get a usable solid piece of steel. The knives on sale here was unlikely "forged" but most likely "stamped", basically Metal was stamped together A|B|C|D|C|B|A (each letter representing the same type of metal).

            In order to get a "higher layer count", typically they would forge weld the billet, cut it in half, stack it then forge weld again (Rinse and repeat for more layers).

            After forging they will "acid etch" the blade (dip the blade in acid) to bring out the pattern or to make the pattern a lot more dramatic and visible.

            When you are buying knives, the first thing you need to look at is "Price", second (if it is Damascus) is "Do they mention how many layers?"

            For a Australian store selling this set, it equals $42.71 per knife. Usually good quality knives start at $90-100+ EACH.
            Also generally speaking, Knives Sets aren't so good if you want the "Good Stuff". They will do for the "ordinary customer", but if you are into cooking and want good knives, you won't find a set that is for you.

            Often knives sets are "value" sets, e.g. lower quality than singular versions of the knives. They may look the same but is usually lower quality. I know quite a few brands do this (in particular Wustoff).

            You will likely buy single (good) knives which suit your cooking style. Do your research and it will pay off in the end.

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              @lplau: This guy forges.

              I'm currently doing with knives what I am doing with my tools. Bought a reasonable off the shelf set that does everything I need them to. Then slowly replacing individual items with top quality versions when I can afford it and there is a good sale.

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                @grasspun: Yup, that's what i always recommend for beginners. Get a Set then work out which sizes and types do you like, then replace them as you go. Not everyone starts off knowing exactly what knives they need or will use a lot over time.

  • +1 vote

    Looks like the soft steel of Rockwell 53, I'd recommend getting a smaller number of better quality knives instead. RRP should be below 300.

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