Basically-2600 at a $50 discount. Includes Wraith Stealth cooler (Wraith Spire is probably typo from copy pasting).
Cheaper than Amazon by >$30, and not even cached on Staticice yet.
No idea about stock / how long stock will be supplied for etc, I just noticed it on PCCG's front page.
Note that the 1600 AF is not "just" a 1600. For more information:
Does it need a board that’s Ryzen 3rd gen ready? Because it’s denominated as first gen, with 2nd gen performance being released during 3rd gen CPU timelines.
No, it only needs a board that is Ryzen 2nd gen ready, like a B450. A320, B350, X370 boards will need to have an updated BIOS to run it.
Yeah if you're buying an old gen motherboard make sure it has been flashed
It's only 65W dude
i cook eggs on my GPU dw
They have configurable TDPs, so you can have a play with that if you like, to lower the power use (with reduced performance of course).
$15 delivery for me (metro NSW).
Great value CPU, super tempted to upgrade from a 2200G (got a discrete GPU last year), although I don't need the extra performance for anything…yet
Like the good old Duron days
What would be the best value AMD gpu for this ? And itx board ?
rx580/590 for budget gaming seeing as this is a budget cpu.
rx580/590 are not budget gpus when you factor in their ridiculous power consumption. An rx 5600 xt or 5700 will cost you less over the long run.
A 5700 would have the same power consumption and cost more now, 5600xt wouldn't be far off…
@N1NJ4W4RR10R: They would have the same power consumption at max output because they are both more powerful and more efficient. However their max output is far superior to rx580 output, and at lower settings they would a lot less watts to deliver rx580 performance.
As a comparison, my 1660 super when it's OC'd uses around 120-125 watts (way less when undervolted). An OC'd rx 580 uses around 190-200 watts for 25% less performance. Yes, the 1660 super is more expensive (on price/perf not by that much) but the extra $100-150 pays for itself before too long. Plus, the rx 580 will be making your pc case extremely hot (especially if it's a leaper case) so it will also reduce the lifespan of your other pc components.
@DreadEmperor: Yes, but you can undervolt all the other competing cards as well.
But imagine buying a budget card and having to undervolt it to keep your pc case internal temps below 80 degrees whereas other overclocked budget cards still use a good 20+ watts less power with like double the performance. Also, I would argue that the people in this thread thinking about getting an rx 580 to stick inside their leaper case are most likely going to have no idea what undervolting or overclocking is, and will probably use the cards on stock settings.
Depends on the games setting and resolution you want to play, and how far down the line of CPU compatibility (affects motherboard's vrm choice) you prefer.
And the ITX case you are considering, as that'll affect GPU size you can fit.
GPU would be RX 570 or 580.
As for a motherboard, if you don't care about overclocking, then probably the ASUS Prime A320I-K CSM
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/48630/asus-prime-a320i-k…
If you want a B450 board though then you're looking at ~$200.
Im trying to build a budget pc with a Loque Ghost S1 that just got delivered . Got a egpu with laptop with a 2070 super already, so looking for a htpc type build . How about a 5600xt? Would it bottleneck?
5600xt should be fine
Could do 5700xt
what resolution are you aiming for? Also can we assume you'll be gaming? or more media consumption usage (considering you mentioned htpc)?
Also, are you planning on running the laptop and the htpc at the same time? because if not, you can perhaps get a 3400G and use the eGPU, until Zen 2 APUs come out and then upgrade.
@zrmx: Yup gaming for sure . Have a 1440 lg monitor, but if I position the Ghost as a htpc then potentially hook up to a tv. To be honest I bought the Ghost as it was rare and hard to get, problem is my 2070 super doesn’t fit in it.
@NotAnAudiophile: at 1440p, the CPU won't bottleneck the GPU until you reach RTX 2080/2080 Ti level
For 1440p, for best/comfortable performance value, I'd say a 5700 XT (looks like the Gigabyte RX 5700 XT GAMING OC 8G will fit, dimension here: https://www.gigabyte.com/au/Graphics-Card/GV-R57XTGAMING-OC-…), if budget isn't an issue
If budget is tight, and doesn't mind dialing settings a bit back, then a 5600 XT OC would still be okay for 1440p, just make sure you get the OC version so they can get the full vBIOS update (e.g. PULSE RX 5600 XT). This is probably the best value if you don't mind some graphics settings dial-down for your gaming.
The next one down would be GTX 1660 Super, which will give less performance than 5600 XT, but it is cheaper and actually slightly better value (cost per frame wise, although of course depends on the games you play).
ITX Motherboard wise for AM4 platform, pretty much only decent option is MSI B450I Gaming Plus, as the B350 boards are harder to find and often at same price range as B450. The VRM of the MSI B450I Gaming Plus will be able to support 3900X for whatever reason if you want to upgrade in the future.
But yea, when you mentioned ITX and 1440p gaming, in my mind that's no longer a budget pc lol, unless you don't mind budget visual effect settings for the gaming experience.
The Ghost S1 deserves a beast PC O_o
@TheGoodPart: Yeah lmao. In all honesty, it's no longer a budget build if you're building in an S1, which probably costs more than all the components of a budget build combined. But hey, might as well use it than having it lying around.
@BatmanBeer: I would build a beast Pc for the ghost, however with ampere and. If navi coming I doubt this is the right time to do it , waiting for amd to talk more about big Navi in 5 March.
The only true "budget" AMD gpu is the 5500xt. The rx 570/580/590 are incredibly power inefficient, so you're better off saving the extra cost on your electricity bill and opting for a 5600xt or 5700 upgrade if you're thinking of them. I would also personally consider the 1650 and 1660 super.
Have one of these in my computer from 2018. Still runs perfectly. The cooler it comes with is pretty good.
To be very clear, the 1600 AF is different from a 1600; it is essentially a marginally-worse 2600 rather than a revised-1600. Yes, the naming is confusing.
I'll add clarification to the OP.
Oh, whoops. Didn't see that part. Apologies.
No worries, downvotes regarding the confusion can be redirected at AMD for bad naming :P
Fcck if I knew this was coming wouldn't have bought a 3600. thought wasn't for Western markets. Damit.
Don't stress, went from a 2600 to a 3600, 3600 is way higher single core. Still, 1600AF (or a 2600) is still awesome, especially at this price, unbelievable almost
Don't worry I built a 3600 system for a mate and for the money i think it was about $400 for the cpu and b450 mtx mobo. Great performance.
Ryzen AF!
Only worth it if you can pick up in store.
This is the best CPU deal of all time!
Duron 750 was good , Celeron 266 for the win .
Thanks OP.
Grabbed one for use in ????
I will find something to use it in.
Might grab a b450 itx mobo and use it to replace my hpc.
Thanks.
How in sweet Jesus did this comment get down voted?????
People will down vote anything these days!
Consider your post down voted.
Jks
Would this be an upgrade from 1500x?
I get this feeling that my PC is lagging so looking for something stronger (on a budget)
For sure it's an upgrade (more cores) but if a 1500x is causing lag on something other than gaming then you should probably investigate your workload and check your thermals. More cores isn't always the answer, it depends on what programs you use.
Thanks for the post OP. Such a bargain!
I am currently using a ryzen 5 1600 AE with a 1070ti. shall i "upgrade" to AF for that 10% ish performance improvement? probably not.
Unless you have a specific need for it, 10% performance might not even be enough for you to notice lol.
Nope not really worth it, especially if the 1600 AE is still satisfying your needs and usage.
Even if you can break even with selling your 1600 AE, is that 10% performance worth the time?
No
Would this be a good upgrade on a i5 2500k?
Yep, I'm upgrading my 3770k!
That’s what’s I’m still rocking. Hmmmm might be time to move. What mobo you adding?
A320.. I don't plan on over locking either
@Mortgagetightass: Ahhh cool. Yea - family system won’t be OC either. Don’t need the: “why is the computer doing this???” Questions.
Just need it to work 110%.
100%
Worth upgrading if still on an old i7 2600K? (not overclocked as my motherboard is a POS)
Would be paired with a GTX 1080.
Yes, and you'll be able to recuperate a proportion if you sell your i7-2600K, which current eBay sold prices range from $75 to $120ish (for the unfortunate intel platform huggers, that limited platform upgrade path is painful to stick with).
Isnt this US $85 , just grab on ebay at $149 RRP with 15% discount !
link?
How come this doesn't show up on passmark site CPUbenchmark.net, my go to site to see scores?
Just check the score for Ryzen 5 2600. Should be similar to that.
I think CPUbenchmark.net's tool can't tell the difference between the original Ryzen 5 1600, and the "AF" (basically a Ryzen 5 2600) because the CPU just claims to be a Ryzen 5 1600 in the BIOS or whatever. So you just need to look at reviews, or compare Ryzen 5 2600 instead.
Is it worth upgrading from a 1600 to the 1600 af
no, look at the comment above from AEC
it's only a 10% increase
Does anyone think this will have a substantial difference in gaming performance over a Ryzen 3 2300x?
Single core performance seems to be better with 2300x but a 1600 AF, mmm all those cores n threads
In most games it won't make a significant difference, see here for a handful of example games: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2266?vs=2362
So probably not worth upgrading just for that.
Yeah I thought so. Thanks for the comparison, last time I looked there weren't any stats for 2300x
Any good mobo deal to go with this?
I have got the PC-building-bug but my trusty i7-2700k/16GB DDR3/GTX 970 still chugging along.
The price from pc case gear is now showing as $179. Looks like the cheap price deal has finished.
Thanks for checking - I've expired the deal. Looks like Centrecom still has $155 free shipping with some stock left: https://www.centrecom.com.au/amd-ryzen-5-1600-65w-am4-proces…
Listing started today. Was originally listed as being ETA Late March but that changed this afternoon to being currently available. Have ordered one, will probably know by tomorrow if it really is in stock right now.