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Free access to eTG Complete (Electronic Therapeutic Guidelines) for Three Months

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Free access to eTG Complete (Electronic Therapeutic Guidelines) for Three Months
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jsjc on 01/05/2020 - 23:16 tg.org.au (2589 clicks)
Last edited 01/05/2020 - 23:21

Plenty of medicos on here to make use of this.
eTG (excellent evidence-based antibiotic and other therapeutic guidelines) has been released for free access until 31 July in light of COVID-19.

Includes app and website access. If you’ve previously held an account, access has apparently been reinstated automatically.

Usually costs $378/year for an individual subscription and very much more for entire practices/hospitals.

Obviously very niche guideline/subscription so mods please remove if inappropriate.

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  • [Deactivated] on 01/05/2020 - 23:42
    -2

    These should be made free by the Government.

    Not sure why we have to pay hundreds to have access to therapeutic guidelines vital for patient care

    • radissimo on 01/05/2020 - 23:46
      +8

      by your logic all ,all medical resources should be free? who would fund the development and work of the authors?

      • [Deactivated] on 02/05/2020 - 00:14
        +3

        No this is different, therapeutic guidelines is pretty much the gold standard in medical industry. It's an encylopedia of all the current literature collated into one source.

        • [Deactivated] on 02/05/2020 - 06:53

          No its not

        • blergmonkeys on 02/05/2020 - 07:25
          +7

          You’re thinking of UpToDate

          • [Deactivated] on 02/05/2020 - 13:21

            @blergmonkeys: That's not Australian unlike TG

            • blergmonkeys on 02/05/2020 - 15:53

              @[Deactivated]: eTG only provides basic guidelines for treatment of a small breadth of diseases. It does not go into depth on anything. I use it everyday for varying conditions that I already have a good grasp of. If it’s something I need to read up on to understand the current literature, I go to google scholar or UpToDate.

              eTG is not a collation of literature. UpToDate is and is vastly better referenced and broader in scale and depth. It is American but the differences in treatment between Australia and America are relatively minor and any good practitioner should be able to adapt it to our system if required.

              • Oliver on 02/05/2020 - 17:57

                @blergmonkeys: the fact is etg should be funded for health professionals to use in our daily practise…

                • blergmonkeys on 02/05/2020 - 19:59
                  +1

                  @Oliver: Agreed.

                  But we can afford it. It’s really not that expensive when you add the tax deduction and taking into account our earning capacity. An annual subscription for a consultant is about 2-3 hours of wage. The vast majority of junior doctors will have it for free via their institution or training provider.

                  Also there are grants for rural practitioners that can cover this cost.

          • plasmapuff on 06/05/2020 - 00:25
            +1

            @blergmonkeys: FYI Uptodate is free if you use a VPN to Norway.

            • blergmonkeys on 06/05/2020 - 08:44

              @plasmapuff: This is awesome! Thanks mate.

            • aibargain on 09/05/2020 - 21:45

              @plasmapuff: Only apparently if associated with an institution login:
              "Clinicians in Norway:
              You now have access to UpToDate through your organization. If your organization does not have access to UpToDate, please ask your IT team to send its IP address to Helsebiblioteket. Learn more about what's changed. If you have already registered for an UpToDate account through your organization, you can log in now."

              • plasmapuff on 09/05/2020 - 22:22

                @aibargain: I just use Tunnelbear (free) as my VPN and it always seems to work.

        • Pineapples on 02/05/2020 - 09:35

          It is generally considered the standard of care in Australia. You're much less likely to come into grief by following these guidelines than any others (medicolegally) - in opinion anyway.

    • Bedgrub on 01/05/2020 - 23:52
      +8

      “ Therapeutic Guidelines is a not-for-profit organisation that exists to support the work of healthcare practitioners. ”

      It would cost the government the same amount to deliver it to the public for free, 99% of whom don’t need or can’t understand this type of service. Many might even misunderstand it, which could be dangerous.

    • Joyoz on 01/05/2020 - 23:58
      +11

      I disagree if you are referring to general public having access, it would make the Dr. Google like situations worse.
      Other resources and databases are also just as expensive.

      • [Deactivated] on 02/05/2020 - 00:14
        +1

        Professionals only. Lay people would have no clue

    • zzzz99 on 02/05/2020 - 01:52

      medical research is not cheap. reviewing (separating good research and bad research) and collating all this information into a single publication to allow quick reference for health professionals is also not cheap. It wouldn't make financial sense for governments to pay for access to these publications for the entire population. why not just provide access to the doctors trained to understand and analyse medical research and then these doctors can pass that information to individuals when they are sick and need it?

      • mdavant on 02/05/2020 - 06:24

        Yet there are still lots of things missing from etg and also a lot of difference between this and other resources such as up to date.

    • tai gui le on 02/05/2020 - 09:17

      I agree with you. I think essentials like MIMS, uniform guidelines and basic information resources should be provided as free resources for all doctors by the government.

      I understand that it costs to produce but if we want a uniform quality in a universal health care system, then all providers should have equal access to basic common information resources.

  • breadylonglegs on 01/05/2020 - 23:48
    +13

    They are free for those that need to use it.

    Each state government pays for access to make it available at each hospital for free.

    • KablammoNick on 02/05/2020 - 00:09
      +1

      Just checked, we can also get access to the site and app offsite.

    • jsjc on 02/05/2020 - 00:11
      +3

      True for public hospitals
      My private doesn’t have access without jumping through 73 hoops.
      Many GP surgeries could really benefit from eTG at times (working independently, short consults, no micro rounds or ID advice) and I’m sure cost is a major factor.

      • [Deactivated] on 02/05/2020 - 00:14

        You only jump 73 hoops?

      • mdavant on 02/05/2020 - 06:22

        I have considered a basic hospital appointment or a teaching role just to have access to resources.

        • nfr on 02/05/2020 - 21:09

          Isn't it easier to just pay for it?

          • mdavant on 02/05/2020 - 21:55

            @nfr: You also get all the other benefits.

            eg UTD is really expensive, BMJ is not too bad, medline etc.

    • [Deactivated] on 02/05/2020 - 07:17

      Is it free for those in private practice?

      (Who don't have any hospital affiliation?)

      • Surrealblank on 02/05/2020 - 09:09

        no not in private practices
        you have to be subscribed yourself

        • mdavant on 03/05/2020 - 08:35

          ie the real world

  • Nathw on 02/05/2020 - 00:12
    -5

    Do you get a certificate?

  • Blargman2001 on 02/05/2020 - 00:30
    +1

    Every place I've worked at my employer has provided the necessary references including this.

  • mdavant on 02/05/2020 - 06:21

    I have to pay for this. It is worth it, apart from up to date, probably the best resource I use.

  • Ohreally on 02/05/2020 - 06:39

    Never ever paid it until now. All the employers have always provided it. Along with pubmed, cinahl, cochrane etc. They even have private access after validating work email. I don’t know who pays for this may be GP s and independent practitioners? As someone previously mentioned ot should not be available for general public as it will make Dr Google situations bad from worse! I know people who have bought medications in their overseas trips and via the Internet which can be potentially dangerous

    • CandyMan on 02/05/2020 - 11:18

      The public have access to health direct symptoms checker
      This is for health professionals

  • willyroo on 02/05/2020 - 06:46

    Thanks OP, Mrs w has this at work, however app access when not there is a nice bonus.

  • Gradesbrah on 02/05/2020 - 08:26

    Victorian Health Channel provides the access free for any clinician working at a public service.

    As mentioned, all stares provide access free for their hospitals. Universities also often provide access for training clinicians.

    It is good GPs and private service staff are now able to access.

    As for the average community member, a little bit of knowledge around medical expectations can be a bad thing. That being said the eTG is well written and could actually stop the expectation of treatment for some presentations.

    • stockastics on 02/05/2020 - 08:48

      App access is not available

  • iforgotmysocks on 02/05/2020 - 09:11
    +4

    Any Alternative Therapeutic Guidelines? My qi requires alignment.

    • poshjimmyxo on 02/05/2020 - 09:44

      LMFAO
      10/10

    • Bargain80 on 05/05/2020 - 16:39

      just call Pete Evans

  • harpie on 02/05/2020 - 09:42
    +7

    Its always been free if you are eligible to join the state library of Vic. Available online to all Victorians.

  • aurum87 on 02/05/2020 - 10:18

    Super handy, thanks. Got to read up on a few things I've been told by doctors and actually see what research it is based on. As a nerd who likes to read source articles, I got a lot of value from this. Will sign up via State Library of Vic once this expires.

    • blergmonkeys on 02/05/2020 - 20:09
      +1

      Try UpToDate if you really wanna nerd out.

  • pizzacracker on 02/05/2020 - 10:46
    +4

    If you already have an account and logged in, where do you subscribe to the complimentary access? I only see the 1 year version for $378. Thanks

  • Kapinny on 02/05/2020 - 10:54

    thanks mine just expired

  • BrainSand on 18/05/2020 - 18:39

    have you tried focusing it. Practice your hand seals to get better at Ninjutsu.

  • sarahc4000 on 25/05/2020 - 00:14

    thanks for this

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