3100-1660-MAY
$50 cheaper than my previous post with the Ryzen 3 3300X, this time with Ryzen 3 3100.
Enjoy :)
Base spec is A320 motherboard, 8GB 2666MHz RAM, 120GB SSD, 550W PSU, Leaper Mid case.
Ryzen 3 3100 GTX 1660 Budget Gaming PC: $749 + Delivery @ TechFast
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wow really. im still using a 4770K so i imagine any of these new ryzen chips are going to be worth building a system around in the near future
Haha I'm using a 2500 I built in 2011. Never considered a non intel chip but might be worth considering.
Same, I'm on an overclocked Intel 2500k. Ready to go Ryzen pretty soon
what actually do they rule these days? They rule the 14nm space, that's for sure. But AMD has moved onto 7nm and that's where I want to be too.
They rule the space heater market as we head towards winter
Frequency - Meaningless when AMD manages more IPC from lower clock speed.
Latency - Negated by having faster memory & you can OC the infinity fabric if you really think it matters. (Hint: It doesn't.)@AusNugz: frequency is a node advantage from intel's own fabs, AMD doesn't have access to this, i'm sure they would love 5ghz+ zen
you can OC your memory all you want it's not going to improve your latency by 7ms, 7ms is a full frame in 144hz, and there are a lot of applications where 7ms is a lifetime.
@abctoz: Okay I wasn't going to do this but:
1. Yes frequency is a node advantage because Intel has been on 14nm for eons. The higher clock speed isn't that important because as I said AMD has a higher IPC which means for the lower frequency AMD does more.
2. You are forgetting that memory latency only takes affect when talking across CCXs and is not 7 ms. It's 70 nano seconds. Compared to Intel's 50 nano seconds. See how close that is? AMD design for these Zen chips will inherently have a higher memory latency due to the chiplet design and once again it only matters if you are using the Infinity Fabric.The counter: Don't forget about all those security flaws that keep popping up for Intel that require patches that drop your performance by 10% and probably more to be found. Memory latency < Performance and Security
@AusNugz: i'm aware amd has higher ipc, but you can't deny that 14nm++++++++ has a frequency advantage, my point is that amd doesn't have access to this, you can laugh all you want at 14nm but it's exclusive to intel, can you imagine zen doing 5ghz? they would be kicking even more ass
it may be 70ns but what is that for one round trip? in real life games like csgo, the measured latency is an extra 7ms, which is horrendous. and there are many applications where latency is important, like music production, hft etcetc
@abctoz: I wasn't trying to deny that they have a higher frequency.
You're two reasons to consider Intel "winning" don't matter.
You are overstating the latency issues just stop.
The last two things you are holding on to have zero real world value. This is OzBargain, it's all about value.
i9-9900k = $1000 + cooler
Ryzen 9 3900x = $700
20ns latency difference for $300+ more and a < 10 fps advantage at 1080p in games if you don't do anything other than game (i.e no discord in the background)
Intel is dead this generation and the next until they get to 7nm and especially when AMD 4000 is out.@AusNugz: i was merely replying to the guy asking where intel rules, i don't think we're arguing the same thing
there are uses where 7ms of latency is an insane amount of time, this is a fact not arguable, i'm happy sticking to intel because i don't like input lag
i get it amd is doing good now, i was a fan of amd when their stock was $1, but that doesn't mean i ignore facts
Yep, been that way for 14 years now myself, however, I did not let that stop me buying a 3900x off TF a few days back :)
Enjoy the 3 months wait on delivery.
Any RX580/570 versions?
Im pretty sure the 3300x is worth the extra $50
Absolutely!
I’m not that good with computers. How well can it run games like Warzone or PUBG?
Yeah great question. From what I read the 1660 should do 60fps
https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/geforce/news/call-of-duty-warzo…
Is this worth it compared to building it yourself?
Depends
They cut a lot of corners to get at this price
Cruddy low airflow case
A320 motherboard instead if B450 , god knows what brand
single stick of memory
120gb ssd drive only
Lucky no kaboom power supply
No Windows licence.
Their A320 boards are usually Biostar, not great. My B350 was also Biostar, it works, but it doesn't have any of the nice to haves like strong VRMs, BIOS Flash without CPU, Debug LEDs and all that stuff.
Noice!
The Ryzen 3 3100 is not that far off the performance of the intel Core i7 7700K.