Pretty neat little wireless mouse with minimal latency - fairly comparable to wired mice for gaming. Shape is for right handed people only shame I just picked up a g305 otherwise would've bought this.
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hey atomu the stock is back btw - check again now :)
107g is too heavy for comfortable fps use but it should be fine for other games. If only the viper ultimate was this cheap.
Pretty easy to replace the AA with an AAA with foil - reduces the weight from 107 to something like 92-93g. Made a big difference for me.
If you are so good that weight is an issue, you really should be using PS/2 for latency and not wireless.
I mean sure, if it was 2004. CPU latency isn’t a concern anymore and the top wireless tech from Logitech and Razer have the same input latency wired.
I am using 'us' for micro seconds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#Data_transfer_and_sync…
http://www.usbtips.com/usb-3-0-specifications-superspeed-dat…
USB 3 still uses 125us intervals. If an interval is missed, that is at least 125us lag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS/2_port#Latency_of_mice
PS/2 uses BIOS interrupts. It forces the CPU to stop what it is doing to process that data sent via the PS/2 port. Bullpoop, right:
https://www.eteknix.com/amd-x570-chipset-layout-diagram-slid…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Peripheral_Interface#In…
Enhanced Serial Peripheral Interface connects the BIOS to a modern CPU at at least 20MHz, or 50 nano second maximum intervals (higher clocks will reduce this).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_interval
On top of waiting for intervals, a wireless USB mouse needs to use a Guard Interval for wireless signals. This allows wireless devices to differentiate noise from a signal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ax#Rate_set
Wifi 6, which uses significantly more expensive and powerful radios and processors than wireless mice, has one of the lowest latencies of any public wireless protocols, uses guard intervals of 800ns.
Razor believes that it has the lowest wireless latency with it's Viper Ultimate's claimed latency of 195us.
Do you care, no. But a PS/2 mouse has the potential to be four orders of magnitude lower latency than the 'best' wireless USB mouse, with the right mouse and bios chip.
@This Guy: Amazing research but please explain why latency in orders of magnitudes less than the time it take the human brain to process information should be a bigger concern than choosing a mouse that weighs 38% more than a superior alternative?
@hami101: Not research, I just wanted to give you proof so you knew I wasn't full of poop.
A mouse's mass is mostly irrelevant as the restriction to movement is friction. Try moving a mouse quickly like normal then try in the air. If in FPS's, a lighter mouse gives you an advantage, a low friction mouse pad should be a massive advantage, once you adjusted to it.
FPS's rely on pattern recognition. A 240Hz monitor is two order's of magnitude's faster than most human's reaction time at 4.16 ms per frame. But there is often a notable increase in performance with untrained players compared to a 144Hz (2.8ms slower) and 60Hz (12.5ms slower) refresh rates.
A 0.2ms improvement to latency is tiny. But if you find several other tiny improvements to latency, suddenly you are looking at 1ms, which is a little under half of what my link demonstrated can be an advantage.
If you want a lazier argument, I highly doubt you could a difference of 40g on the same device if used to it's full potential. Teflon on Teflon has a friction coefficient of 0.04. The difference in friction between the Atheris (a 38% lighter wireless Razor mouse) and the Basilisk X Hyperspeed Wireless could be as low as 0.016N or 1.7g with a Teflon mouse pad.
This is ignoring that the Atheris has 1000Hz polling, meaning just one part of the system can cause up to .999ms latency, which is again, about half of what my link shows (unscientifically) is potentially an advantage in FPS's.
There are almost no links in this post and the one provided is not scientific, because I am not a biologist, as far as I know esports still attracts very little relevant research and sports biology can be a cesspool of quackery and trade secrets.
price changed to $89.95
G502 Clone?
That was my thought, like seriously why does this exist :P
Physically looks like a G602 clone, but this has a better polling rate (1000hz vs 500hz), higher DPI sensor (16,000 vs 2,500) and bluetooth mode (which the G602 lacks).
It's also a lot cheaper than the G502 wireless version
Thanks! I grabbed one :)
price went up to $89.95 now.
90 bux for a mouse?
If you want one maybe bookmark the page and keep checking it over the week to see if/when it comes back at the $64 price. It has been floating between $64-89 for at least a week. Decided to grab one this morning.
Hi folks, how did you find the scrolling wheel of this mouse? I have a mx master and really like the ratchet mode, does Basilisk X's scrolling wheel feels similar?
Just picked up a MX Master 3 for ~$112 from Officeworks (with their pricebeat from Jockimart.com @$118.40)
Thanks just bought one. Hopefully no issues from OnLine Computer but looks ok with amazon fulfilment (and returns if needed)
$63.95 now. lol
$63.88 now.
looks like amazon is fulfilling them well. got mine dispatched this arvo
The basilisk X hyperspeed looks to be back in stock at $64.
Thanks!Ordered one.
is this a good mouse? anyone have it?
Sweet grabbed one. I kept missing the sales for this.
Can't seem to add to cart or buy it now option