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Some cheap KN95 masks, given the next pandemic coming. $19.25 Delivered from Gameology eBay
KN95 Masks No Valve 10 Pack $19.25 Delivered @ Gameology eBay
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funnysht on 11/07/2020 - 14:19 ebay.com.au (655 clicks)
Last edited 11/07/2020 - 14:27 by 2 other users
Last edited 11/07/2020 - 14:27 by 2 other users
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no these are not n95 masks, they are KN95.
please dont post asking if anyone knows any cheaper…it just makes it appear as though you havent done your own homework and want someone to do the leg work for you.
one is the Chinese standard, one is the US standard. I'm a little skeptical about masks passing Chinese standards, given prior experience with Chinese quality control.
I only buy my medical and PPE supplies from board game shops.
….nothing like rolling the dice on PPE
There is no way these Chinese KN95 masks are comparable to properly certified N95 or P2 masks.
Advertising them as N95 is misleading, or even dangerous if used in the wrong context (eg by a health care worker treating a COVID positive patient)
Sick of these kind of opportunists preying on people fear.
not the worst tbh, my local chemist was selling one mask for $3
priceline sold one piece of surgical mask for $10 back in the first wave. one guy bought two, the funny thing is he had to bend his body very low in order to reach the card tagging device for social distance haha
Fomo drives sales. That is the way markets should work.
FDA logo on the box
FDA does NOT allow a vendor to put the FDA logo on the box of a respirator. So, if your Chinese KN95 respirator has an FDA logo on the box, then you are probably importing a non-authorized KN95 respirator. This is the easiest way to help spot a KN95 that is NOT FDA approved. Let me say this again: If the box or the label has an FDA logo, then it is DEFINITELY NOT FDA APPROVED. Thankfully, the Ministry of Commerce in China has recently started to crack down on its own export along with the FDA guidelines. For example, many suppliers have told me that China has forbidden the export of Dasheng respirators on the counterfeit list.https://medium.com/@jayparkmd/how-to-spot-a-fake-kn95-mask-from-china-d5219e7f0ab2
The 3000000mAh powerbank of masks.
Just look up the FDA number.
What next pandemic coming??? Stop fear mongering here, this bargain shopping website. Maybe advertise your mask over in wechat or something.
A second wave is coming.
106.
@whooah1979: Cheers, but those are just numbers without any relevant details. I didn't mean to question what you believed to the be the case but without any further information such as the details of the 106 people who died then it could simply be the natural death rate. What were their ages, what other health issues did they have etc? We had a case a few weeks back in QLD where a 30 year old died and the media were claiming him as a covid victim, whipping everyone into a state of fear and paranoia as they love to do. I questioned whether he died 'from' covid or merely 'with covid' and got shouted down pretty hard by the usual types. A week or so later it was revealed he didn't even HAVE covid in the first place and died from a long term illness. This is why I am asking people for their first hand accounts. Or to put it another way I simply do not trust any official figures or anything the media is touting unless it can be verified independently or at least bear some correlation to what I can see (or not as the case might be) with my own eyes and my informal queries to those I come into contact with on a day to day basis.
@EightImmortals: I'm nobody's health professional. I can only provide links to information from the data that others have collected. I trust that the information that they publish is reliable.
@EightImmortals: Why do god botherers so often put the burden of proof on people who believe in science yet feel zero compunction to prove their own outlandish assertions and beliefs?
@EightImmortals: There is healthy skepticism and there is just being oppositional because it becomes a habit. Do you really think hundreds of thousands of deaths is some sort of made up conspiracy?
A work colleague in Atlanta told me about her friend in her 60s who died last weekend. It isn’t made up.
“ isolating the sick and vulnerable and letting everyone else get on with life”
How could this happen? Something like a quarter of the population is aged or has health issues that put them at risk. How can they live with no contact with the other 75% of the population?
How do at risk parents care for their children? How do sick people get their food? How do at risk people isolate from their healthy housemates?
The only way to protect people is to stop everyone getting the disease.@mskeggs: Thanks for the reply but you didn't provide any of the information I asked for. In regards to your friends friend in Atlanta do you know what her health history was or any other relevant information?
@EightImmortals: The 30yro QLD guy didn’t have COVID. There were media corrections.
I can’t help but say, there are many extra deaths around the world. Australia has been lucky in this regard so far. Surely from a precautionary principle you can consider public health measures prudent?
Because if your skepticism is wrong, many thousands of people might die, if we followed your suggestions.@mskeggs: Yes I said that about the 30 year old, sorry if I didn't communicate it properly. Though by that stage the fear and panic had been ramped up a notch and the authorities shut that particular town down for a while causing a lot of problems for people and businesses. And I'm not sure what you think my 'suggestions' are (apart from not destroying the whole of society that is)? People are free to take whatever precautions they see fit and I have no problems at all with that…as long as I'm not FORCED to behave in the same way. Or let me put it another way, last year I personally knew 2 people who had the flu and by 'had the flu' I mean they were laid up and couldn't go to work for a few days. There were also a couple of people in my immediate circle who had a work colleague or family member who had it as well. The ABS tells me that in 2018 (I couldn't find the 2019 figures) that 3102 people died from the flu (Their average age was 89 ) https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/mf/3303.0. Keeping those figures in mind, the whole population was not put under house arrest, businesses were not closed down, people were not laid off, schools were not closed, borders were not closed and enforced by the military etc. Also, given that I could see that the flu was in fact out and about and I could verify that for myself I had no reason to doubt the official figures. I cannot say the same about the covid panic which is why I am asking everyone I know, even people outside of my normal sphere of contact, on chat forums like this one for example if they know anyone who has been crook (not merely 'tested positive') with this bug. I fully expect there must be some but will that number be enough to justify plunging the world into a global depression that will last years?
Even following Whoah1979's link you can see that the majority of claimed covid deaths is in the 80-90 year age group, which is the age where unfortunately most people tend to pass on anyway. This is always sad for the people involved of course but again is no reason to shut down the world's economy. We will never stop people from dying as much as we want to.
@EightImmortals: I'm not really sure where you are going with these comments.
It seems to be "I wish the world was different."
We can see in countries where there was no or limited lockdown, like Sweden, there is still equivalent economic harm.Perhaps a way to think of it that might help you understand why people are taking this seriously is to consider the COVID deaths are in addition to flu or any other deaths, so the approach to minimise infection while a vaccine or treatment is developed is an attempt to avoid those extra deaths.
I also agree that the dead are disproportionately among the elderly - but we spend massive amounts on healthcare to prolong these people's lives already. There isn't a very good moral argument that an older person should die if it can be avoided. My parents would be very vulnerable to COVID because of their age and health conditions (as they are to flu) but they are still active, mobile, valuable contributors to society. Their deaths would be felt badly if they occurred, even if statistically they have less than 10 years likely left.
There is also the precautionary argument that we don't know if there are long term impacts of getting the disease if you are young.
It's hard to make a public health argument against taking the disease seriously, considering the many public health actions we already take against threats that kill comparatively small numbers (things like drink driving, speeding, bike helmets, anti-smoking, anti-alcohol etc.)
I also wish that the disease wasn't here, but it is, and it scares many people who fear for themselves or their relatives, neighbours and friends.
I would much rather we had the problems of New Zealand, with no infection in the community but closed transport links, than the problems of America or the UK, which have almost equivalent transport reductions, but many sick and many dying.
@EightImmortals: "not trying to be a troll or anything" is the new "I'm not being racist or anything" yeah? Perhaps the 10 people you know that you asked just couldn't be bothered engaging with you so they just left it.
But, if you want an echo chamber, there are Db groups of Trump supporters who will validate your expert opinion, just not here mate :)
@EightImmortals: I honestly hope no one in your family gets this virus and you have to deal with the medical consequences.
For you and all the other trolls & twats, do yourself (and everyone else) a favour and watch:
Last Week Tonight July 19, 2020: Coronavirus - Conspiracy Theories
@whooah1979: The reason most people don't personally know someone with Covid is the federal and state governments keep the numbers very low with a good response the first time. Only about 7000 people tested positive in wave 1, that is about one in every 3500 people. Given it was generally spread to close friends and relatives (clusters) that makes to odds of knowing someone infected even lower since you would likely know a few people if you did
Most people wouldn't know someone who got sick.
not my mask dude.
no these are not n95 masks, they are KN95.
The title says KN95.
It originally said N95 before it was revised
$39.95 for me
https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/whats-the-difference-bet…
In short, N95 masks are the US standards for respirator masks; KN95 masks are the Chinese standards for masks. Despite the long list of differences, the two masks are equivalent or nearly equivalent on the features that most people care about.
Just need to ensure this 'KN95' is certified.
I saw Bunnings have pallet of KN95 masks for $25/5 pack. Made in CHN.
Nothing personal against KN95’s, but be aware they are not the same product as a N95. “Same” is not always the same.
Be cautious and don’t just take anyone’s word. The link is a blog, so when did we start trusting blogs and rely on paper specifications?
Just because when “everyone” is selling it, does it make it legit, especially for a new product…
I do want to point out that the general public do not need N95 protection. A general 3 layer face masks is sufficient.
Yep sure pork chop, lets listen to you not the cdc or WHO ;)
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/hcwcontrols/recommendedguid…
@funnysht: Extracts from your link:
The recommendations are intended for use by professionals who manage respiratory protection programs in healthcare institutions to protect health care workers from job-related risks of exposure to infectious respiratory illnesses.
@funnysht: The full n95 quality masks are for giving high grade protection to people dealing with Covid cases or probably cases. They are too stop the wearer getting infected.
The surgical masks, the ones you see worn through asia, are more about stopping infected people dispersing spittle while breathing/talking and explosive events like coughs/sneezes.
Some people can't afford the N95 masks- which are in general twice as expensive and go with nothing, at least have a substitute that may be slightly ( e.g. 10-20%) inferior
3M are made in the US.
yeh go ahead pay $10 a mask for 3M lol
@pork chop: I also have type 5/6 coveralls, safety glass, surgical gloves, face shield, duct tape and toilet tissue.
I may have read (wrongly) France produces 30% of all masks in the world… Good place to start 😉
This probably wont help you. But here goes.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/taiwan-donate-10-million-masks…
given the next pandemic coming
The pandemic never left us…..
Sick of seeing this kind of mask deal. I purchased the mask deal last time and am doubting it can protect virus as the box is from China and certificate provided inside looks very fake. I feel gloomy..
Thumbnail says KN95 not N95