Parcel Connect/Fastway Agent Left Business to Do Personal Errand, then started sexist and racist remarks.

Fastway is the worst service provider I had to deal with in my life.

Anyways I bought some weight plates from Samsfitness online, they used Fastway/Parcel Connect to send their item.

The Fastway never rang the bell of my apartment, I am home all the time, just left the "sorry we you card" and asked me to pick up from a newsagent acting as a pick up pointfor fastway two suburbs away.

Time on the card says the agent is trading 7.30 am to 5pm Mon-Fri, morning on Saturday.

I went there yesterday at 10.20am, the shop was closed with, with a sign that ways we'll be back 11.30 (those sign with a clock face with moving hands). I was pretty frustrated as I had to take the tram spend great about of time to get here, anyways I went to the shopping center about 1 km away, waited until 11 so I can order some lunch at a restaurant, ate and when back to the newsagent at about 11.25.

Asked him why there was no one in the shop at 10.20, basically he told me 10 to 11.30 is the time he goes to back and does personal errands etc. Yeah like WTF, you're a parcel service collection point, not a shop where I can just go somewhere else to buy if your shop is closed. If you close your shop, I can not get my parcel. When you sign up as a parcel collection point, you have to be open during trading hours as people need to collect their parcel from your shop.

Basically we spend the next 5 minutes arguing back and forth, I was trying to get my point across that you have to be here during the your trading hours so people can pick up their parcel, otherwise don't sign up for a parcel collection agency.

Then he started asking questioning my gender. He said things like I complaint like a girl and man should just bear the inconvenience, take the parcel and move on, then he asked me if I was born in China and if I could speak Chinese, I said I was born in China but what does that have to do with it, I am not going to give him a pass just because we're both Chinese ethnicity, then he started talking to me in Mandarin, to which I said I will not talk in Chinese, then he said said 忘本, basically that I am forgetting that I'm Chinese, I don't respect elderly and I don't know how to speak Chinese.

I had the whole incident recorded on my phone.

Like seriously what can I do in this situation, complaining to Fastway is useless I guess.

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            • @whooah1979: Is that why DHL is usually a bit more? Makes it even worse that Fastway doesn't do it, if you think they're getting the money for it.

              • -1

                @Whisper Quiet: Aramex is a franchise. The drivers are paid (or used to) with coupons that are one time use.

                It would cost the end user more to have "free" redelivery included in the shipping fee.

                • @whooah1979: You're the missing piece in the middle of a donut. Do you even know what you're saying. First you said that redelivery is included with the fee, now you say the drivers get one time use coupons? Go back to whirlpool mate

                  • @Whisper Quiet:

                    The cost of redelivery is already included in the original shipping fee. The carrier get to keep the redelivery cost if the first delivery attempt is successful.

                    Do you mean that? That is for DHL. Their service cost more because they can do multiple redeliveries.

                    Franchises like Aramex and couriers please have a one time use coupon system. The drivers get a set fee from scanning the coupon. Couriers please used to pay $2+GST per delivery and $0 for the redelivery.

        • plus travel to and from my home to the agency because fastway driver did not ring the bell.

          • +2

            @canberrascooter: The travel time to collect the parcel doesn't have anything to do with the shop.

      • +1

        But the shopkeeper did not waste 3 hours of your time, you did by not calling ahead. What about the shopkeepers time? You wasted his time. There is video evidence of that on your phone.

  • +2
  • +14

    Sometimes it can be helpful to put oneself in the other person's shoes.

    The old guy is running a newsagency. Even before Covid, these businesses were doing it really tough. Now, it must be 10 times tougher. He probably gets very customers during the day, and specially now. So, he sets aside some time during the day to do some of his other business.

    He signed up as a parcel collection point for Fastway as a way to make a little bit more money, to try to keep the wolf from the door. For this, he would be paid a pittance by Fastway. It certainly wouldn't be enough for him act as a collection point as a sole business. And he is definitely not an employee of Fastway, in the same way that an Uber driver is not an employee of Uber.

    It is to be expected that shopkeepers and retail staff will be polite & respectful to customers. But, they are also humans & have their own needs & have to go off to do their own stuff.

    • -3

      Funny. Fastway never seem to put themselves in customer's shoes.

      • +4

        Funny, canberrascotter can't seem to put himself in the shopkeeper's shoes.

  • +2

    Leave Google review. Complain to fast way that opening times are wrong. That's it really. Unless u want to post your video to reddit or something…

  • +1

    He should adjust his business hours accordingly and make them available to the public on Google Maps or something. E.g., Open 730 to 10am, 1130 to 5pm Monday to Friday.

    Some shop owners don’t really care about customer service. Our local Australia Post where we collect missed parcels is owned by Chinese and that place has like hundreds of 1-star horrible reviews for his rudeness, yet he’s still in business after years of consistent poor customer service.

    • +1

      Post office is a cover store… They're money laundering

      • More likely buying a PR.

        Post Office is a shit option for money laundering. Too many fixed cost items and most of the quantities can be tracked. Heck, some items come with tracking.

        • Do you have a recommended business for money laundering? Asking for a friend.

          • +1

            @smalltime0: Arcade.

            Laundry.

            Carwash.

            Just watch Breaking Bad.

        • It was a joke…

          • +3

            @Whisper Quiet: How dare you. Breaking Bad was a fantastic series.

  • +2

    Pathetic…

  • I see your frustration. And I hope venting on Ozb has helped you to relieve some of it. Certainly the interaction was probably very unpleasant at the time, to be insulted as a customer as well. But unfortunately the best thing you can do is to complain to Sam's fitness, Fastway, and also centre management. If I'm not wrong, it's not proper for a shop to close/be shut during trading hours for an unreasonable amount of time. That's the avenue I would take. He would likely get a reprimand from centre management - but it's enough for him to be clapped back in the face.

    • anyways I went to the shopping center about 1 km away

      Can't see complaining to "centre management" would help.

  • Thank you for the bedtime story.

  • +1

    This is the best part of my day so far

  • +3

    Yes it's inconvenient and unprofessional but you know in the scheme of things that are going on in the world I'm finding it difficult to care. Just my opinion.

  • I get all my parcels delivered to a business address where someone will be there full time during business hours. I can't be bothered dealing with delivery drivers, not worth the hassles.

  • +7

    plot twist: after been called a girl, OP trained hard with the weight plates he ordered from Samsfitness and became a Wushu world champion.

    Turned out the guy who ran the newsagency was a retired Wush master from China, the wait and scold was just part of the ordeal crafted by the old wise master.

    Eventually they became lifelong friends.

    Happy Ending

  • +4

    Ok Karen!

    • Sounds like is was a Kenny.

      • Saw a news article that reckons equivalent to Karen is Terry. I guess people study this sort of stuff for their thesis now?

    • +1

      he should have asked for the manager

  • +2

    Fastway NEVER press the door bell of my apartment…

    And I'm home all the time (Melbourne) and had been having no issues with AusPost/Toll/Fedex/DHL/UPS…

    It seems that if you have a shitty Fastway subcontractor/courier in your area then you're stuck with that level of service.

    I have asked Amazon to give me refunds on all of these deliveries that were sent by Fastway because then i'll have to pick it up from a collection point 3km away from me so I'd rather wait longer for a re-delivery rather than allowing Fastway to continue giving this substandard service each time.

    • So that means you will have to wait a long time for your item to arrive and going through the hassle of refund and repurchase.

  • +1

    Can someone explain how deliveries work if you live in a highrise with no concierge? If I'm some lowly per item paid courier, can I afford to buzz every apartment and wait several minutes for someone to come down?

    • That's part of the job. If Fastway driver think it is not worth the time to ring the bell, why they take the job and screw it up for everyone. What did you I do to deserve this service?

      I would have been more than happy to pay extra for Auspost and save my three hours and $7 transportation cost.

      • I was just curious what happens in general? Good luck with Auspost at the moment. Chances are it would have turned up in Jan if you're lucky.
        Didn't neg you btw

        I can also imagine the number of ppl who pick up the intercom and take ages to come down. Must be bloody frustrating for drivers.

      • Ap will do the same and card the mail article because the customer get out of bed.

    • I never worked for courier companies but I've done commercial deliveries (grocery supplier) during my uni days to some commercial centres/apartments and basically I'd prefer delivering to apartments/commercial towers as usually I leave the depot based on how much can fit in my van. Delivering to apartments/office buildings mean i can perform more deliveries in one go instead of spending too much time travelling from one address to another and trying to find parking, etc.

  • +3

    geez mate are you fair dinkum??it was fastways that was in fault not the paper shop bloke,think just think if that person was not a fastway service it would have gone back to the depot and how far was it to the depot,you would have had further to go to pick it up,if you want to rant and rave here the best thing you could do is when covid allows buy a ticket and go and live over there where respect is a dirty word to use as you may be locked up for doing what you did here!!

  • +2

    then started sexist and racist remarks.

    Could someone well versed in PC answer this?

    Is it sexist when a heterosexual man calling another heterosexual man a girl? Is racist when people of the same race calling each other names?
    Thanks.

    • +1

      No such thing as 'versed in PC' - These days everyone knows everything about PC. Especially everyone on the internet.
      In short - Anything someone doesn't like is not PC. Also anything that doesn't suit your own agenda is not PC.
      If you don't agree with what I'm saying then my statement is not PC.

      • +1

        Give me an example of something you’d like to say that you can’t because of the pc brigade.

        • +1

          I'm perfectly happy despite Covid and Vic lockdowns. Last week someone told me it's not a good idea not to sound depressed and miserable like many ppl at work. Aparently it's insensitive.

          On a sidenote, strangely all couriers in my area are awesome. I guess it's the luck of the draw with the driver. I also give them a bottle of wine around Xmas.

          • @gimme: Nice non response :-)

            Also tell them to get stuffed

            • @Vote for Pedro: The response was literally the first sentence.

              • @gimme: That is not pc. That’s people being twats.

                Edit: though if your behaviour is demonstrably insensitive to the challenges other people are facing, you could potentially be the twat.

      • Very few people denounce everything they dislike for not being PC. The majority of people told off for being racist or sexist are being racist or sexist. If you find you're being "falsely accused" a lot you may want to look at what you're actually saying!

        This is just like the people always banging on about how "the Muslims are trying to stop us celebrating Christmas" etc.

    • I don't think OP got the point when the guy started calling him a p*55y essentially. The guys point sort of ended there. It was simply just be a man. It was not sexist.

      It's sad when you are Chinese, can speak Chinese, and refuse to speak Chinese to someone when they talk to you in Chinese because you 'don't want to' because you can speak English and then labelling it as racism.

    • The courier was actually being outright sexist toward men by saying that because the OP was a man, he should bear inconvenience. I don't think anyone should have to bear any inconvenience simply because of their physical differences.

      It's only political correctness (or incorrectness) if you're trying to gain something else from calling it out, whether it's cred, a political job, or wanting to belong. I like to think that people can tell the difference between that and a group genuinely being treated unfairly for whatever reason. So someone telling a man that they should be inconvenienced simply because they're a man is pretty damn sexist. It's also a bit manipulative too because they're essentially policing another mans masculinity by making up the rules to suit themselves and hoping the OP will be insecure about it. The OP has every right to feel uncomfortable with that and call it out. That's not PC because there's no secondary gain.

      As for the racism - the courier was unapologetically making race based remarks that made the OP feel uncomfortable who again had no underlying no secondary gain. That's pretty much racism right there, and the problem with racism is that it's often unintended, ignored, and when it does harm, minimised. But at the end of the day it's still racism.

  • If you don’t like the service, your option is to complain to the store, the courier company and the company that uses the courier company. If nothing changes it is your choice whether to continue to shop at the store that uses that delivery method.

    This might surprise you, but they don’t have to actually do anything that suits you. However if they piss of enough people, they may lose business.

    • Have you ever tried to complain to Fastway?

      They have a Whatsapp account but reply takes more than a week.

      • https://www.aramex.com.au/contact-us/aramex-depot/

        Doesn’t mean they have to care though.

        • Yes I've sent my complains to them multiple times using that website and also tried their Whatsapp as well…

          No reply.

          Whatsapo, i get a reply after a week and just pretty much sorry thats it

          • @meong: Well stop using them. They don’t have to care.

            • @Vote for Pedro: Yes, i went this path. I have asked Amazon to stop using them for my deliveries.

              Unfortunately, with some retailers you don't have an option or you may not know until its posted that its actually using Fastway. I remembered that Beechworth Honey was one of this that claimed to use AusPost on their website but suddenly without notifying the customer decided to switch to Fastway.

              You probably saw a comment i made earlier this year on a Beechworth Honey post.

              • @meong: Then stop buying from them until they meet your requirements. Tell them “I am no longer buying from you because you used fastway couriers”

                If you are that invested in the choice of delivery, ask before buying.

                It’s important to exercise your right to spend your money how you wish.

                • @Vote for Pedro: Yes indeed. I exercised this.

                  But like I said, sometimes with online retailers whom you never bought before, you may not even know until you actually purchased and received a tracking number.

                  I posted on various deal post in here to warn others if a specific store prefers delivery using Fastway and to specifically request AusPost after ordering.

                  Asking before buying may not necessarily be suitable especially since a lot of online retailers take about 2 business days to reply and sometimes a deal may not last a day, I suppose you know OzBargain deals pretty well…

  • Choose your battles

  • Get Sam to ask Lee Priest what he would do in this situation? Lol

  • +2

    Had a delivery from fastway yesterday who got two metres from the door then bowling balled my parcel to the door (was a keyboard). All caught on my security cam. Facepalm.

    • +3

      Actually haha. last week the fastway guy just dumps at the front door in full view of the street, which is what he always does. Australia Post arrives next and goes tsk tsk he shouldn't be leaving that here, it should be out of view.

      In all due respect I treat my delivery guys well and always keep a box of fruit or snack bars of my house that they can help themselves to. Just because it is their 'job', doesn't mean you are their emporer.

  • +1

    Lesson learned: arguing with people is 100% pointless. They will not change their point of view, no matter how solid your argument is.

  • -1

    Oh Kazza!

  • +1

    Fastway is the worst service provider I had to deal with in my life.

    This is true. so i have stopped dealing with fastway and also stopped dealing with all business that use fastway as couriers.

    • +1

      I dont like fastway as well. But the moment he had a whinge to the newsagent owner…..

  • +2

    There must be something more important to spend your time on…

    Anyway, whether or not other people want to do their jobs perfectly, are their own choices, you’re demanding too much and you’re not in the position to teach them how to do their jobs.

  • You're lucky you have a collection point at all. They just leave the "we've missed you card". You can't use their online service as its broken, you can't get through on the phone cause you are number 30 in the queue, and then you have to drive the only depot in Melbourne (30 mins away) to stand in the line to pick up the thing.

    I always write in my order comments (please do not use Fastway) though often it doesn't work…

    Fastway is the worst of the bunch

  • You know OP that bit at the end there WAS dreadful, but I do question the value in hammering on someone for a full five minutes about the way they run their job. 0730am to 5pm is a long day and they've probably chosen the quietest part of the day to run their errands. Both of you could have been a bit more cheerful about life getting in the way of your plans.

    You could go ahead and make a complaint and 'cancel' this guy who appears to be working very long hours without a break, or you could write to Fastway and ask why they are understaffing a collection point to the borders of legality. Your choice.

  • Good on you, OP, for standing up for your principles. However, you could have approached it differently (complain to Fastway, Leave negative feedback on Google, etc.). Getting into a heated argument with an obstinate person really made no difference.

    And how did you record the whole incident? Were you pointing your phone outright at him (thus pissing him off some more)? Or was it more discreet (like in your pocket)?

  • Build a bridge and get over it

  • I feel you frustration when I pick up my parcel from this type of places, seriously Fastway have lost the plot ever since they have been bought out by Aramex.

  • +8

    Dont forget that this guy is the same person who started a thread complaining about kfc chicken being not spicy enough, complaining about tenants, complaining about job interview etc. OP is good at causing trouble.

    • +1

      Makes sense.

      And I bet OP was not being discreet either when he was videoing the shop owner.

      • Anyone have link or mirror?

  • Your time could have been better spent making your own business that offers a drop off point with blackjack and hookers.

    Sometimes life doesn't always work out in our favour but the experience seems a bit full on and delivering to apartments can be confusing.
    Maybe we are too accustomed to the easy life in one of the luckiest countries in the world.

    firstworldproblems

    I think I have been lucky with most of my parcels except for maybe 2 occasions I had to drive across the state to a startrak depot nearly 2 hours away (4 hour round trip) before they started using drop off points, not even counting the wait times.

  • -1

    OP wasted more of his life here replying to getting slammed. Hilarious.

  • Add a Google review of his business and complain to Fastway.

  • I would have been annoyed too.

    but… any adult getting into a heated five minute argument with a stranger needs to do a bit of self reflection.

  • Reading this post has wasted my time.

    The story also had some racist and sexist comments and I am offended. I.e. Race and sex were mentioned. I do not see colours or genders. I only see a blur of beauty and wonder that is this glorious world we live in.

    Can someone give me the name and phone number of someone at Ozbargain that I can complain to about this. If I do not receive satisfaction I will be reporting my dissatisfaction to the ABWO (Australian Bargain Website Ombudsman). Also I am considering involving Telstra and HP as they provided the internet and laptop that helped to waste my time and cause my offence.

    Is this comment sufficient or should I start a new forum topic to ask for opinions on how to proceed?

    My only concern is that the new forum topic might create a slew of similar complaint forum topics and that Ozbargain, Telstra and HP would eventually be shut down. And I love Ozbargain and am not entirely dissatisfied with Telstra and HP as a whole.

  • Fastway are the scum of the earth and I hate them. I've called there office and asked to be put on a blocked list because of crazy delivery mishaps. Worse was my $400 Lego getting dropped of at a newsagent 3 hours round trip away. Always takes twice as long as Auspost to come from over east to Perth. Also annoying when eBay sellers say they use Auspost and they send with fastway.

  • +2

    Complain to Fastway.
    Learn to write succinctly.

  • +1

    pick up from a newsagent
    you're a parcel service collection point, not a shop

    😕

  • I ordered a couple of mattresses on ebay yesterday and, lo & behold, I was advised today they would be sent via Fastway. Drives the point we often won't know how orders will be delivered and hence it's not so easy to 'blacklist' sellers.

  • As a girly man as well, I take offence at that man's insinuation. Would you be interested in forming a class action?

  • +4

    I received a notification from Amazon earlier this morning on my phone. I checked and it said that my parcel was delivered "yesterday". Thought it was a bit weird, but I went to try collect it from the pharmacy at 9am. When I got there, the pharmacy had a sign that said "Mon-Fri Hours 11am-3pm". I used to go to this pharmacy early in the morning and they were always open before 8am. A little disappointed, yes.. but I turned around and went home.

    At 1pm, I left my place to go again. This time, the shop was open. So I waited patiently in line and then when it was my turn, I told the lady behind the counter my name, showed her my ID and she handed me the parcel. I smiled and said "thanks, have a great day!" and she smiled and said "you too.. have a great day!".

    I didn't feel the need to shove my camera phone in her face and I didn't feel the need to ask her why they changed their store hours. I was just happy to get my parcel!

    (I'm sorry if my story isn't as exciting as OP's and much less uneventful! LOL… but, for anyone who wants to know what I went to pickup, it was this: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/557718)

    • -2

      Where is the "we missed you" card? It should have time of the collection agency.

      My card clearly said 7.30 am to 5pm.

      If the card said 7.30 to 10am, 11.30am to 5pm. Then I would have gone in these time. Someone in the system screw up.

      Could have been less demanding, yes. But why should I lose 3 hours?

    • "I didn't feel the need to shove my camera phone in her face and I didn't feel the need to ask her why they changed their store hours."

      The camera thing is a good point, it is a toxic culture. Now instead of minor things in life, for both parties, going away as soon as they happened, now people can rewatch the act of poisoning yourself over and over again.

  • +1

    Maybe you should sit down with him and HR and give him and put in a formal performance improvement plan.

  • +1

    Larry David would have opened a spite newsagent next door to resolve this situation.

  • Please upload video to YouTube… would love to see this interaction :D

  • He said things like I complaint like a girl and man should just bear the inconvenience

    That's a weird one, generally I thought the stereo-type was that men stand up for themselves and will complain much more than women.
    Every refund my parents made when I was a kid was conducted by my dad and it would be considered "wimpy" to just take bad service when you're in the right.

    Sounds to me that this guy is just one of those types of people where everyone else's way is wrong and his way is right. He'd come up with any kind of excuse, name-calling or rationalization to deflect from the fact he was out back when a person wanted to collect their package.

  • upload video or it didnt happen

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