Want to Quit Job, Need Advice

Lkthara on 23/08/2020 - 13:13

Hello Everyone,

Looking for an advice with work. I know there has been lot of changes lately in work places everywhere due to covid. Also not much our there because of that. Need advice on the job scenario.

I have been working with the company over 7+ years I just made the LSL mark. Now since this covid, company is forcing me to work late hours without pay. My work has not affected due to covid as my part involve online marketing and retail stuff. I am on 38 + extra time fixed roster of 47.25 hours with 6 days working. 10-15 mins here and there, I would not mind staying everyday. I think I am ending up doing 3-4 hours every week. Before, I used to work as many as 10-20 hours+ every weeks. In total I would have done more than 200hrs at least in last 6 months. I once asked about OT and I was told that I may be too slow and I might have to look why its taking me too much time and work into the efficiency. I was all ok and now all of sudden I beacame slow. To me the work is never ending, they have been giving new work and have to do others work as they have given a day off to every one. They have given me a day off too from next week. Because I have like 4 weeks of AL left, the company is forcing me to take a day off from annual. It is like work 38.75 hours and take a day off from annual too. Work 5 days with those hours. My wife is on job seeker. If I take that off from annual it affects my centrelink payment. I loose annual hours and centrelink both. I have asked for unpaid leave but NO, business model wont suit. I asked them to take Saturdays off, work 5 days only then they said NO and it would not work for company. If that doesn’t work for me they might need to find a replacement, I was told. No for every thing. I honestly dont think I will make much time in future with them. It has always been like their way or highway. There is no union it is only CEO and when she says that it it. The boss have started to give no shit lately only speak to CEO.

There are so many reasons why I want to quit the job, the management have changed and wont get better regardless of covid. The list can go on.

Long story short, I want to quit my job.

Q: The company has not done fair to me with pays, made me work OT for free and has refuse to pay. I have over 200 hours of sick leave, I know it is not good practice but they haven’t done fair to me too and take stress leave and leave? I can go on stress leave for a month and then mean time I can give notice of resignation.

My replacement for work was my manager which they made him to resign and no one is there who knows half of my stuff. I was given annual for a week not long ago and I had to do 2-3 hours of work from home and heaps of phone call obviously never paid. They definetly need me at least for someone to train. I am managing the back end part of retail shops POS, website maintenance, desiging specials, mailchimp to name few which no one has any idea. Shall I ask company to put me on writing to pay me sick leave as they were not fair to me on paying OT and agree on resignation and stay there to hand over things?

Is there and benefits of redundant and shall I tell them to make me then only I will stay and train other people. They have to find someone anyway perhaps not the scenario.

What is the best way to leave in good terms and get something out of sick leave too.

Is there any other way of leaving, every day at work nowadays I think of this :(

I know there are no jobs out there but my plan is to take covid as an opportunity to learn and work on my resume ( IT Background also passionate) when still govt will pay something till Dec before its too late. I cannot afford to sit home later to learn and do courses.

Thanking you all for spending time to read whole big essay. I am in stress in real need of help.

Education & Work

Comments

  • pjetson on 23/08/2020 - 13:21
    +24

    I'm not sure what you want from us. If you want to leave, then you should leave.

    • Okayy on 23/08/2020 - 14:06
      +4

      “us” that’s quite a representation there.

      • Jugganautx on 23/08/2020 - 14:55
        +1

        "The collective of sheep"

    • anonymous01 on 25/08/2020 - 14:54
      +1

      I think he just needs an ear to vent on. Mate, forget about your sick leave, company is not going to pay you. Have you thought about consequences of leaving? Mortgage, bills, rent etc? Do you have saving for atleast 5-6 months? You won't find a job anytime soon unless lucky.

      • Hangryuman on 25/08/2020 - 19:26
        +1

        writing it down it uses a different neural pathway from just thinking to oneself so can trigger different thoughts

        as in the classic - stuck with a problem, but as soon as you tell someone about it the answer becomes clear !

  • Flowerbomb on 23/08/2020 - 13:24
    +23

    I have nothing to add, but i just read your story and want to commend you on your hardworking attitude. I appreciate your work ethic and you sound like an employee the company cannot afford to lose. Unfortunately they're too caught up at the top to look out for people at the bottom.

    Can you survive financially if both of you are on job seeker? What if you negotiate a part time employment with them after you quit and left the company, they might see how much they need you.

  • EFC94 on 23/08/2020 - 13:26
    +7

    I'm still kinda confused whats happening here, find a new job somewhere and quit this one.

  • salrock on 23/08/2020 - 13:36
    +57

    Find a new job first and then resign .

    • life is suffering on 23/08/2020 - 13:43
      +10

      This OP. dont succumb to your emotions. You are a hard worker and should be rewarded. but need money because we need on this earth.

      Get a job first then move. Searching for a job when not having one is more stressful.

      • Chewiebacca on 23/08/2020 - 14:17
        +9

        dont succumb to your emotions

        As opposed to succumbing to the combined tolls of extended burnout, stress, and impaired mental health?

        Having a new job lined up before leaving the old one is of course always practically better, but it isn't always the feasible one. OP has mentioned he has 200+ hours of sick leave banked, and the option of taking a month off on sick leave. Taking a month off paid + notice period to recharge and begin looking for another opportunity is a very valid option, particularly when "find a new job first and then resign" doesn't bring a light at the end of the tunnel. Sure, searching for a job when unemployed is stressful, but continuing to work in one that is already adversely affecting you can often be worse. Health is wealth.

        • life is suffering on 23/08/2020 - 14:43
          +6

          agree with you @chewiebacca. What I meant was don't make rash decisions. Taking some leave and thinking about this is fine.

  • popsiee on 23/08/2020 - 13:43
    +1

    Don't worry OP the employer will have plenty of candidates in the present market with whatever unpaid overtime they want .

    Biggest question is do you have any opportunities ?

  • 87percent on 23/08/2020 - 13:46
    +6

    Jesus that’s a wall of text

    • TheCutter on 25/08/2020 - 09:16
      -2

      You can tell Jobseeker is tempting just now.
      Everyone thinks they can just sit around and get paid forever

      • screwball on 25/08/2020 - 10:05
        +3

        Piss of Scomo

  • Chewiebacca on 23/08/2020 - 13:56
    +16

    It's important that you recognize your responsibility, so you can prevent it from happening again in the future. There are times where O/T is necessary and reasonable, but there are boundaries. Whilst we wish that our employers are always diligent and responsible in respecting those, you will pretty much always need to develop your own understanding of when lines are being crossed, and be able to communicate that. Covid times are tough for almost all businesses, but from going off what you've said, it still shouldn't mean you do 30+hrs monthly of unpaid O/T. You are responsible for allowing that to happen too.

    I have been working with the company over 7+ years I just made the LSL mark

    I can't offer any advice in the way of this, as I haven't been in that situation. Do highly recommend you get specific advice to this though.

    What is the best way to leave in good terms

    By having a prepared letter of resignation, scheduling a meeting with your manager, presenting said letter to your manager, explaining your decision if prompted, and walking away. If you feel you are capable of it, you could potentially offer to train your replacement, of course paid. If you do this, ensure you get it all in writing. However, from what I've read, I would advise against doing any favours for this company, and focus on formulating your exit strategy.

    What is the best way to get something out of sick leave too.

    Unless you use up that balance, nothing to get out of it. You've mentioned "I can go on stress leave for a month", sounds like the best option to me, provided you've had a medical professional substantiate that. You'd have one month + whatever notice period your contract stipulates to rest, refresh, and prepare for your next opportunity.

    Shall I ask company to put me on writing to pay me sick leave as they were not fair to me on paying OT and agree on resignation and stay there to hand over things?

    I wouldn't even bother, highly doubt they'll agree to this. As mentioned above, I also wouldn't agree to you staying over to hand over things, but that's your call. I would personally be focusing the time on lining up your next opportunity, and training up a replacement doesn't seem the best use of your time, given you've mentioned the Jobseeker payment option being most viable for you until December.

    I'm personally of the opinion that if in the course of employment your health is adversely affected, and the situation is no longer in your control (i.e you've scrutinised yourself, and it's not you, it's them), you should leave ASAP. In my experience, it just isn't worth it. Whilst having another opportunity lined up is of course always ideal, it isn't always possible, and I would not value that over your health if it came to that. You sound like a hard worker, you deserve the better workplace that is out there where you will be valued more. Health is wealth.

    • kthara on 23/08/2020 - 14:20

      Hello Chewiebacca,
      Thank you for your time to put all those points. I reckon the best option is to leave so that I can work on some IT certifications to switch career. Cheers!

      • trapper on 25/08/2020 - 10:31
        +6

        No. Do not leave to work on certifications. Leave only when you have a new job lined up.

  • PissLUR on 23/08/2020 - 13:57
    +3

    you should quit your job asap.

  • Okayy on 23/08/2020 - 14:06
    +1

    Jump to other job then leave.

  • bobbified on 23/08/2020 - 14:24
    +3

    I think I am ending up doing 3-4 hours every week.

    If I am understanding your post correctly, you're doing an extra 3-4 hours of overtime every week? I honestly don't think that's unreasonable.

    If you think you can financially handle being away from this job, then go for it. Usually anyone that asks, I'll always tell them to go secure another job first before handing in a resignation for their current job. No matter how much you hate your current job, you'll likely hate being poor even more.

  • JetBombat on 23/08/2020 - 14:25
    +11

    I think you should define the problem first and then see what options are there to solve it. Work is too much stress? Make it less stressful:
    1. Work hours that are defined in the contract.
    2. Sign up to hobby, running, gym, reading, baby sitting, volunteering - any other responsibility that will make you to switch away from work after, say, 5pm (or whatever the hours are which are not stressing you out personally and legally) and do that every time. If they ask you to work more - sorry, you have another responsibility you cannot ignore.
    3. Work on your physical and mental state. Make sure you are healthy, eating, sleeping, exercising and not stressing. Make work just work - you do your time best you can and you switch off to other things afterwards. Understand that they might use mental tricks to bully you into working more. Stand your position, make sure you are legally covered and do you job with calmness. Look at it as an exercise, hard one, but you will feel great about it once you go past it with all the strength you have. Do not budge into reducing your leave to less than 4 weeks (unless it is in the contract and you are legally obliged). If they start bullying, make notes and see how best to put this as evidence in case it will required in the future (notes, dates, words said, other people who were present, emails, sms). Realise that worse that might happen is that they will fire you, not really a bad outcome reading from you post above, but make it their choice, not yours. Your choice is to be happy, healthy, do your work and earn living and overcome this difficult time as a strong, calm, professional person. Don't stress about their problems, focus on your goals.
    4. Once you are in a more stable state, start looking for another work. It could be a few days, week or a month later. Talk to friends, talk to me if you like (happy for a chat), call employee help program if you have one so you can make a more informative and less emotional decision.
    5. If you can achieve the above you can change jobs or resign any time you like, it will be your choice. If you leave now you will likely make it harder for yourself in the future (jobs are harder to find if you are not employed). I think you can make life more enjoyable without leaving this job (yet), you just need to switch balance a bit onto yourself and what's important to you. What do you think about this idea?

    • movieman on 25/08/2020 - 10:16
      +1

      I think it's so kind of you to offer this advice, and also offer OP the chance to call you.

      Well done!

  • [Deactivated] on 23/08/2020 - 14:42
    +12

    OP I would suggest taking your annual leave all in one hit. By them requesting you to take 1 day off a week, they are effectively still making you do the same amount of work as you would in a 5 day week…we all know how that works. By taking the leave all at once it will force them into having to find someone else do the job, whilst at the same time this will give you some clear head space. The other card you can play is stress leave with 200hrs up your sleeve you go get a doctor to put you on stress leave and they can't do jack about it…similarly they can't fire you soon after you return without you being able to appeal it. Just learn how to play the game within the rules :)

  • brokenglish on 23/08/2020 - 14:49
    +7

    Hey, I was in a very very similar boat.

    Any company’s ultimate goal is to make money. Your health is not their #1 priority.

    I realised money is something you can always make in the future. Time and health (especially mental health) is something you can never get back. Recover yes, but damage done cannot be reversed.

    For me, I quit. Handed in my resignation, cashed out my annual leave, wrote proper handover notes during notice period and did the best I could. Then corona happened. I am still jobless but that was the best decision I’ve ever made for myself.

    For cases like this it’s not easy to think objectively because you yourself are involved. I am sure if there’s another you, he/she would give you a great advice because deep down you know what’s best for you.

    I wish you good luck.

    • DemocracyManifest on 23/08/2020 - 15:09

      I’m surprised you did handover notes. I’d been trying to get colleagues to follow proper processes for months and just gave up. People game references anyway

    • ozbjunkie on 31/08/2020 - 20:52
      +1

      Advice I got recently from a friend in his 50s said a similar thing "don't ignore all the small increases in work related stress between 30 and 60, they take more of a toll each year, and by the time you find your breaking point you might not be able to heal well from there".

  • DemocracyManifest on 23/08/2020 - 15:06
    +7

    Stress leave is worth it, take it, go to a good doctor, get a certificate, it has to go through workcover I think. Sounds like you’ve got a case. Also probably consult fair work about the unpaid overtime, but the cheapest way to kick them in the nuts is take the stress leave, and then resign when’s it over and collect your annual leave and entitlements etc. Do not offer to train your replacement, just walk away. Don’t worry about reducing your partners centrelink because it’s only temporary anyway. Alternatively as your partner is on centrelink just resign immediately, she will lose a fortnight’s payment when you get paid out. Remember the asset test has also kicked in so check the amount of liquid assets you have for when you have to apply. I’m unsure if you could have sick leave and jobseeker at the same time so look in to that, the waiting times are still waived

  • [Deactivated] on 23/08/2020 - 15:13

    A lot of fake jobs are going poof in corona times

    • kahn on 23/08/2020 - 15:15
      +1

      Not that there's anything wrong with that…

      • [Deactivated] on 23/08/2020 - 15:44
        +2

        When you find out that the vending machine is more valuable than you, it can be shocking

  • Ocker on 23/08/2020 - 15:50
    -4

    Start slacking off on your job and let the sack you. The go them for unlawful dismissal - the vast majority of companies will pay up to save the expensive and lengthy legal process and the fact they know the courts are stacked against them.

  • netjock on 23/08/2020 - 16:06
    +3

    Take them to Fair Work if you think they are really breaching statutory rights.

    Don't blame you for wanting to quit. A lot of employers are taking advantage of COVID19. Hard to be honest in business simply because there is so many dishonest people running businesses out there.

  • nubzy on 23/08/2020 - 16:07
    +5

    For me personally I couldn't handle working for somebody else. A 9 to 5 office job being told what to do all day and dealing with office politics would suck the life out of me. Thankfully with the internet there is plenty of opportunity to find work online/sell your skills or products. You can also start a simple business such as painting or lawn mowing with very little capital. No one should feel trapped or forced to work for the man in this day and age, so if you want to leave, just do it.

    • exulted on 24/08/2020 - 22:14

      What is your main source(s) of income?

  • Mechz on 23/08/2020 - 16:32
    +1

    I'd go the stress leave route and use the time to find another job. Then give 4 weeks notice, as soon as you give notice just do the absolute minimum and make it as hard as possible for them. You owe them nothing.

  • Euphemistic on 23/08/2020 - 16:32
    +8

    Maybe you recently went to a covid hotspot. Maybe you now have a runny nose and temperature. Maybe you need to stay home to isolate until clear. Maybe that might use some of your sick leave you won’t get back. Maybe that will give you some time to consider options without pressures of work.

    • maybe that won’t work if you are working from home.
  • yellowfever on 23/08/2020 - 19:18

    If you want to leave and that's your current mindset, take every entitlement your are due before you hit the ESC button.

    Also consider unemployment is currently ticking over 10% in Aust, or over 1 million are currently unemployed.

    Play your cards well.

  • [Deactivated] on 24/08/2020 - 01:40
    +6

    As someone who comes from s**t country i fully understand you bro, cause I've experienced the same thing. For your employer you are just a Tool, and they're gonna use you, squeeze you, chew you and at the end spit you out. They don't care, so why should you? I would suggest to find something else and then quit. Do not even bother to have any good relations after you quit, and do not ask for reference. Ignore!!

    I remember when i quit, a competitor company opened a similar position which i applied for, and got the job. When asked why i quit, i was honest and said, they wanted me to work more for less money and i couldn't accept that. So with my knowledge, connections, and info that i had i managed to boost company sale and at the same time my ex employer experienced loss (market was already full, it was just the percentage that you can boost), to the point where ex CEO was complaining that he thought me all the little secrets and i used that against him ( i knew how they operate on market). Well, sorry bro, you made me leave, this is my sweet revenge, deal with it!! The best thing is that i persuaded a ex colleague to join me at new company which he did.

    So what i learned it is all about profit, and you are just a replaceable tool in the system. The bigger unemployment rate the less employer care about you, simple as that.

    Some useful thing that you should practice in the future: Never answer phone call, text or email after working time or on holiday. Never let employer know that your family depends on you having a job. I remember one year before Christmas we got asked by employer how many kids we have so they can arrange Christmas presents for them, but in reality all they wanted to know how many kids you have to support, so it's harder for you to just quit. Always look for some work elsewhere.

    Take care I wish you all the best!

  • [Deactivated] on 24/08/2020 - 08:53
    +2

    Think clearly about what your doctor might have noted previously. If nothing, take out the maximum additional insurance units with your super. Read the Insurance PDS for the definition of TPD.

    Talk to your doctor. Get prescribed medication if you are suffering from anxiety or depression. Use your sick leave, sparingly at first, then if you cannot take it any more discuss some time off with your doctor. It's important that from this point you assertively have your doctor make clear notes about your condition and treatment and refer you to a clinical psychologist (not a regular) if necessary from this point forward. Get a diagnosis of your condition if the clinician feels you are suffering from a condition. Comply with all treatment. Sadly no treatment works.

    When sick leave is exhausted use your income protection from your super ((profanity) the dole that comes later). This may get you 75% of your current income for up to 2 years. During this time agree to a graduated return to work plan with your employer. Sadly this fails. You call in sick most days. You do not cope whilst there. Abandon the RTW half way through. Towards the end of your income protection see you GP and other treating medical professionals and discuss your concerns that your treatment has stalled and your income is about to disappear. Tell them you have insurance and are considering applying for it. Will they support your application?

    Gather all the evidence you require before applying. Reread the Insurance PDS - there's your job application criteria. Best of luck.

    • frewer on 25/08/2020 - 20:18

      Get prescribed medication if you are suffering from anxiety or depression

      OP please only do it as a LAST resort, some of it once you get on, then it very hard to get off without any bad side effects

      Sadly no treatment works.

      Indeed

      • [Deactivated] on 27/08/2020 - 02:03

        Sadly no treatment works.

        Indeed

        That comment was meant to be ironic. IE OP reports that treatment has not helped regardless of the outcome. I'm just explaining how to do it successfully. I have years of experience in superannuation and insurance industries.

        OP sounds like he would not choose this option however if he chooses to stay they may eventually break him and then this may come into play and it PAYS to be prepared. Oh, it PAYS…

        • frewer on 28/08/2020 - 18:54

          Since you elaborated on it, I couldnt agree more. I was on similar situation, I thought I can handle it. But it 'erode' my mental slowly. There was only one, it is to get out

  • trankillity on 24/08/2020 - 09:11
    +4

    They obviously don't appreciate you. You seem to know how valuable you are, and they don't.

    Start looking for a new job, and let them know that you are. If they don't change their tune - they're not worth staying with.

    In the mean time, work your CONTRACTED hours, and nothing more. They cannot ask you to work any more without some form of TOIL/overtime. If they do, record it all.

    I learned long ago that there will always be "just one more thing" to do. And that "just one more thing" can (more often than not) wait until tomorrow if you've already worked your rostered hours.

  • jtc13 on 24/08/2020 - 09:29
    +4

    Life is short. Don't be miserable at work. There will be other jobs even if a little more difficult in current climate.

    If you feel like leaving every day then you should leave IMHO. Don't compromise your personal values in doing this though. By this I mean don't take sick leave for a month if you will feel bad about this within yourself. If it will not bother you to do so then go right ahead.

    In general it is better to have a new job to go to before resigning but if you feel as bad as you suggest in this post then it sounds so toxic to you personally that getting out no matter what should be your priority. Good luck.

    • FrugalDealHunter on 25/08/2020 - 07:37

      This. Don’t jeopardise your mental health.

  • Tigercjn on 24/08/2020 - 14:57

    Take some leave, setup as your own business and then you have the ability to subcontract back to them if needed and also to find new clients.

    Work from home on your own terms.

  • Ginag on 24/08/2020 - 15:01
    +1

    1) Do you receive a salary where you are meant to do overtime or hourly contracted amount? read your original employment contract to see. If the latter, then work the hours you are meant to work and wait till tomorrow to do other work. Ensure you are still meeting any KPIs that are you meant to, egs if your meant to make 500 widgets per day and it takes you 1/2 an hour longer than everyone else, then working overtime to complete your KPIs does not sound like a big ask and reasonable as you are completing your job description..
    2) Can you live off your wifes jobseeker? Do NOT think you will be entitled to it straight away if you leave your job. Read the criteria and time periods needed to actually get job seeker. You are resigning not being let go so will have to wait to receive it. If you can live off one 'salary' (your wifes jobkeeper) then take it into account. If not, I would find another job first and then resign.
    3) Are you entitled to Long service leave? its important to be 100% sure so you know what you are getting. For example I work in Victoria where it is legislated that you can receive LSL if you work same place longer than 7 years, however I am in Victoria and my company does not follow the Victoria legislation so it is 10 years for my LSL to accrue. Double check you actually get long service leave at 7 years, or if you only get it a prorate amount if you are made redundant (entitled to nothing if you resign).
    4) It is reasonable for companies to ask you to take time off, especially if you have more than 4 weeks. You haven't got a leg to stand on under fair work. 1 day a week is nothing. I had to take 2 weeks off. Other people had to take 5 weeks off. Consider yourself lucky.
    5) don't burn your bridges by pretending to be sick to take a month off. the company will see through that. you will need a reference for next organisation you go to. if you need to take some time off, do a covid test and you can take the few days off in waiting for your results. Those few days may recharge your batteries.
    6) Lastly see JetBombat above, they have great advice!

  • OzHunterNSW on 24/08/2020 - 15:35
    +1

    Write a letter seeking payment for OT.

    If they fail to act, advise you will take matter to the Dep of Fair Trading.

    Start taking sick leave…. as this abuse is affecting your health and wellbeing.

    Then state you can no longer work for an unscrupulous mob and feel forced out of your job.

    (let them sack you).

  • MontyMacaw on 24/08/2020 - 16:01
    +3

    So many employers are bullies. Wage theft is a multi billion dollar crime - add on top of that the super and compound earnings that affects your retirement.

    As seems the consensus you need to find another job and make sure your contract is clear. you may be one of those people who over promises to the employer, I know I was and that is a great way to land a job but you set yourself up to be taken advantage of in the future. Never undervalue yourself or everybody else will too.

    If you do leave and get another job, contact Fairwork for clarification of your underpayments and entitlements.

  • sky blu on 24/08/2020 - 17:12

    Good luck, brother.

  • [Deactivated] on 25/08/2020 - 08:47

    I am on 38 + extra time fixed roster of 47.25 hours with 6 days working. 10-15 mins here and there, I would not mind staying everyday.

    You can't work more then 38 hours a week, unless the hours a reasonable, or are workaholic.

    I'd just leave, they aren't valuing your time, or atleast compromising with you.

  • Melong on 25/08/2020 - 09:14
    +1

    https://www.fairwork.gov.au/

    They also can provide free legal aid if you request it.

  • skinner on 25/08/2020 - 09:37
    +2

    From the sounds of it, they are really not appreciating your effort and skills etc and are starting to take advantage of you. Bit of a hard spot, definitely can't keep going like that forever and sounds like it's getting worse. But if you push back and say you can't do what they're asking you'll probably be out the door. I personally wouldn't quit unless you had something else lined up already either and I don't think they'd be too keen to pay out your sick leave after you've resigned.

    Maybe try to get a week off on sick leave for starters, a doctor might give you a medical certificate for a week off for stress. Tell work you're sick because you're so run down from all the unpaid overtime, make sure you don't do any work from home in that time. I think that will either push them to realise they need you or you'll see they really don't care and then continue taking weeks off for stress leave etc. Not the most ethical thing to do I guess, but you've already tried some reasonable options, they seem like dodgy douchebags very happy to take advantage of you.

  • jace on 25/08/2020 - 10:08
    +1

    Take long service leave. You won't have it at a new job for a while. It will give you time to clear the head, and stop the downward spiral.

    While on leave, look for another job, or just "find yourself". Perhaps you'll find your current job not that bad.

  • payless69 on 25/08/2020 - 10:12
    -1

    Don't!

  • monkeyfood on 25/08/2020 - 11:38
    -4

    Op is doing a online marketting role yet clearly does not have basic/average English grammar. This might be a hint why they are "slow" perhaps somebody else has to go over their work and "fix" it for online content after

  • tikei on 25/08/2020 - 12:44
    -1

    I left my job without one lined up because of something similar and I don't regret it at all. You'll need to ask your spouse what she thinks as if you can't find a job after a few months and she's gonna be resentful, you'll be miserable so you need her full understanding and support.

    I think you won't be able to get jobseeker yet because if you voluntarily resign you'll have a few months of waiting period to serve.

    I had savings and not that much expenditure so was ok to quit like that. I will never put up with nasty bosses like that ever again. Look after your mental health, go take a few weeks of stress leave and hand the work off to others. See how you feel when you come back, or apply for jobs in the meantime.

  • flowergirl on 25/08/2020 - 12:54
    +1

    The grass may be greener elsewhere, or it may not be. 7 years is a long time in one role/organisation and it is possible to become fixated with the failings of your workplace and lose perspective. That said, there are plenty of toxic workplaces out there and maybe yours is one, just be mindful it can go either way. Sometimes you can change jobs and it really is a breath of fresh air, other times once the honeymoon period is over you might realise things are the same as or worse than where you came from. I've personally experienced both scenarios.
    Factors you may want to take into consideration before quitting:
    We are in a recession and it is likely to be prolonged. The job market is and will continue to be very lean and competitive. Are you confident that your skills are in high demand and are you ready to compete with other highly skilled applicants for the limited number of jobs available?
    Do you have a financial safety net? If you are out of work for a prolonged period will you be able to support yourself on JobSeeker or using your savings?
    Are there other things you can do to make the current situation more bearable - either by imposing your own boundaries on how much additional time/effort you give to the job, talking to other people about it (including professionals) to give you an outlet to vent your frustrations and get some emotional support or develop strategies for coping, or finding other activities outside of work to give you more balance?
    If none of these work, then it may make sense to resign, but it is important to be aware that it may not be easy to find alternative employment in the current environment.

  • bulletbill88 on 25/08/2020 - 13:29
    +2

    OP you could benefit from assertiveness training. Helpful if you feel like you are getting walked over and starting to get resentful about it. It sounds like you are having some mental health issues and it is a lot easier to sort them out while you have a job and earning income. Being unemployed and having psychological issues to deal with is no fun.

  • giventofly on 25/08/2020 - 14:23

    I'm in the same position but I didn't read all of your post.

    I've applied for easily over 20 jobs and I've had 2 interviews. Waiting on both but doubtful I got them.

    Update your CV, get on LinkedIn and network like crazy.

    Call recruiting agencies. A lot of them might not contact you as they might have a contract with your employer that forbids them poaching staff.

    Find a job THEN quit. I was so jaded and wanted to quit when they needed me most but now I delegate and do what is expected of me.

  • TheBird on 25/08/2020 - 16:56

    I'm reading between the lines and forgive me if I'm odd on my read.

    I'm guessing you don't have the savings giving you the buffer to afford you obvious options. That could put you between a rock and a hard place. Not an enviable position to be in.

    The problem is most are giving you advice from their perspective. While you've given us some details of your work situation, it's less clear about your home circumstances. I had a contract position take years to get to boiling point. I shuffled stuff around so I could take a few months off to get some perspective. When I came back, it had only become worse. Within an hour we parted ways. I was lucky where I was in a position to afford a few years off working. I'm currently starting my third career shift since then. Life doesn't always work out how you hope.

    I'd suggest that you step back to get a little perspective. How you do that really depends on you… Figure out what you want. Where you want to be. Plot a course from where you are to where you want to be. Then work out what you need to do to get there. Work out what's the right choice for you. You don't need to work it out all on your own. Ask questions to whoever you need to ask. Your answer would could be suck it up for now until you find a better path. It could be working out a way to make work a joy instead of a feeling of dread. It could be as simple as walking into work and telling them to shove it. It could be finding a new job. It could be study.

    It could be a gut check to figure where you stand at work. If you've got the leverage, that might be an option. Some employers will back off instead of losing a key employee. Some will burn it to the ground instead of being held hostage. Most are somewhere in the middle. That's also assuming they also see you as a key employee. They might not.

    If you want to nut it out more, reply with some more details.

    Good luck with it all.

  • BuyoTheCat on 25/08/2020 - 22:36
    +3

    Is this a smallish company that the owner runs most of the company?

    I can tell that you do not feel appreciated at work. I feel that is the main reason you want to quit. I can understand. I was in such a position last year.
    It is very likely nothing will change if you stay. Before you quit. Think of the worst case situation (financial and living factors) for your next 6 months if you quit. Then extend that to 12 months. If you think that you can live with that, Then quiting now is an option.

    In my case there was also a change in situation at the work situation. I thought hmmm….if I cannot get a job in the next x months, I will be sad and a little frustrated. Thinking about going to work: even more frustration and stress, so quiting, for me was the better option. I made sure that I cut expenses, worked out my finances and budgeted.

    I hope it works out for you and I am happy to talk more.

  • Hardlyworkin on 28/08/2020 - 23:27

    OP; what's your salary for all these hours? Your situation seems pretty dire, I hope it's a big fat salary you've stayed there for.

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