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[eBay Plus] 50pcs Disposable Face Mask 3 Layer Protective $11.85 Delivered @ edragon_australia eBay

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50pcs Disposable Face Mask Bulk Pack Face Masks

CE Certificate: EN 149:2001+A1:2009 FFP2 NR 2016/425 (Personal Protective Equipment)
Uniquely designed: Comfortable elastic earloop,extra-soft ear loops eliminate pressure to the ears.
The inner layer is made of soft facial tissue, no dye, gentle to the skin.
Muti-Function:Keep your mouth covered and protected from pollution, fluids and dust with our Disposable Face Mask.
Comfortable : Face Non-Woven Fabrics is made of non-woven fabric for easy breathability. Use of elastic ear loops means that it fits most.

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  • FDA Certified

    Lies.

    Brand Name: Unbranded

    Trusted brand right there.

  • FDA Certified

    FDA doesn't certify masks - it has been covered here many times! If you are claiming this, than it is a false claim and brings everything else you say into disrepute.

    • From the FDA website:

      Q: I would like to purchase masks for COVID-19. How do I know if they are counterfeit or fraudulent?

      A: The FDA does not issue any kind of certification to demonstrate a manufacturer is in compliance with the FDA’s requirements.

  • made in?

  • Here is another thing to note:

    it states that it is a "face mask" and not "surgical mask".

    From the FDA website:

    Face masks marketed to the general public for general non-medical purposes, such as use in construction and other industrial applications, are not medical devices. Face masks, when they are intended for a medical purpose such as source control (including uses related to COVID-19) and surgical masks are medical devices.

    TGA also states what to look out for here:

    https://www.tga.gov.au/face-masks-and-respirators-are-regula...

    • Okay so what cheap 50 pack of masks should we buy. I'm in SA so we haven't "needed" masks yet, but anything's possible with Commander Cuckoo Bananas in charge.

      • So, a good 90% of the Ebay stuff I can't guarantee they are safe to use. Look out for terms like "Non-medical", "face mask" (instead of surgical) on the boxes in the Ebay listing. Click on that TGA link and scroll down, it will tell you what to look out for.

        You're better off going to your local chemist and getting 50 pack for $30-40.

        I know it is more expensive, but at least you know you are not taking a risk there.

        You could always get a reusable one, but personally I'm not a big fan of them. There is a reason doctors will throw away their masks after using it.

      • There are Youtube videos showing how to differentiate between good and poor masks. Look for minimum 3 layers, one of them being "melt-blown". There have been a few such products offered on OzB at low cost previously. Take certification claims and standards stamps without supporting evidence with a huge grain of salt.

        If this deal is still going I'd happily recommend the product (as advertised) a LONG way ahead of the product in the above deal. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/562474

        An ARTG number was no guarantee of quality but the TGA is (supposedly) slowly working their way through ARTG listings to check registered devices. Not sure I'd rely on that myself at this point but no ARTG number means the seller cannot offer the product as a medical device. This seller shouldn't be misleading consumers with words like PPE but they make no claims about this masks ability to defend against bacterial or other pathogens. They are apparently good as dust masks.

        • Thanks, Ive bought two lots of identical (from picture) masks and one was a lot worse quality than the other. Took a punt and have ordered from your linked deal.

  • Better make your own

  • Apparently 'not easy to fall off' too.

  • Postage $10 , title wrong!!

  • Does anyone know if there is somewhere to check ATG numbers. Example this listing https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TGA-Registered-3ply-Disposable-L...

  • Posted in error

  • How come eBay allows this item to be listed but not the ones HelloPam did?

  • Out of curiosity, how many people are using these single use masks versus a fabric washable masks?

    I stopped using the single use when I could finally get a hold of a few reusable ones, but it seems wasteful to continue using single use.

    • The outside of the mask collects everything it's protecting you from… So disposable is best unless your changing your fabric ones multiple times a day and washing them daily.

    • I found the reusable ones fogged up may glassed a lot more than single use.

      • The trick is to get a reusable with the bendable metal strip so you can press down along the nose.

        For whatever reason, so many reusables cheap out on these….even though they're in every single disposable mask. Very annoying.

        • yeah agreed. The reusable ones I have either don't have the metal strip, or they aren't as firm as the disposable ones.

          • @samsepi0l: Got some reusable ones from Cotton On (3 for $25 + delivery or C&C) which have the nose wire so work well and dont fog up my glasses much (they do a little, depends on how big a breather you are and how cold it is).

      • Terrible idea to reuse disposable masks.

        1. They lose their efficacy after, up to, a few hours of use - from the moisture in our breathes.

        2. The outside of them collect virus that you might have come across. By having used masks lying around, you risk contaminating your own home. (& that's assuming you wash you hands immediately after removing it/ putting it on to reduce the risk that you might spread virus through your hands.) Plus, depending on how an used mask is handled, you also risk spreading the virus to the inside of the mask and inhale that the next time you put it on.

        3. The opposite of all the points in #2 above are also true if you carry the virus yourself.

        So, all in all, it's not about dirt that you can see or whether it smells, but the virus that you can't see. If you value your health and the health of those around you - don't reuse disposal masks.

        Reusable masks also needs to be thoroughly washed as soon as possible after use for all of the above reasons. (& remember that they don't generally provide the same level of protection as disposal surgical masks unless they are used with proper filters.)

              • @mokr: Clearly not. Read the guidelines - the concept of disposables and regular, proper cleaning of re-usables is simple enough. If you were to incidentally acquire C19 then your overused mask would offer much reduced protection to others. Unless you're being tested every few days or are almost totally isolated then you have no way of knowing if you are a carrier. A good percentage of infected peope have no significant symptoms.

                Amazingly (perhaps not) we're 3/4 of a year down the track yet still people complacently and/or culpably ignore advice on masks, sanitizing and social distancing. If you don't care for yourself then the least you can do is try to understand the effects on the lives, jobs and economic situations of millions of others.

                • @Possumbly: A good percentage of infected people have no significant symptoms.

                  1/5000 hit rate according to our CHO - the majority of people have symptoms. Look at QLD 7k tests for 1 infected.

                  If we were in some crazy outbreak place then yes i would be way more vigilant, but odds wise its very slim in aus.

                  • @mokr: Agreed, depends on where you are. The point re symptoms is not that they don't exist per se but that are so mild as not to be recognised (or are ignored for many reasons) by the carrier - as recent TV ads are trying to convey.

                    The answer to my question btw is essentially this: not enough data exists to be precise about Covid-19 lifespans outside a host but tests, and experiences with similar corona viruses, suggest anything from a few hours to more than 5 days (some say 9 days in ideal circumstances) depending of surface, temp etc. Probably a lot longer than you thought?

                    • @Possumbly: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30561-2/fulltext

                      In my opinion, the chance of transmission through inanimate surfaces is very small, and only in instances where an infected person coughs or sneezes on the surface, and someone else touches that surface soon after the cough or sneeze (within 1–2 h). I do not disagree with erring on the side of caution, but this can go to extremes not justified by the data.

                      • @mokr: Nothing is black and white wrt transmission but the evidence (as poor as it is) for transmission via transfer from a carrier onto a shared object and touching is far stronger than for aerosol - in areas where the virus is known to exist. Much of what Melb is experiencing seems to have emanated from security "guard" interactions with people in isolation - in rooms which weren't properly and regularly sanitized and where neither the guards nor the people in quarantine took the situation seriously (ignorance and lack of training are no excuse imo, this was months after the Jan/Feb alarm bells were sounded). The enquiry should shed more light but in case you missed it: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/how-hotel-quaran...

        • If he’s going for a walk and the closest person is on the other side of the street, how many viruses do you expect will be on the mask?

  • Has anyone bought these before? The quality is a bit dubious but the price is tempting…

    • Based on your comment alone I wouldn't buy them (price tempting + dubious quality). Sounds shifty to me.

  • I don't get why everyone gets so worked up about masks, and whether they are TGA listed, made in China vs somewhere else, or the myriad other things people get so worked up over. At the end of the day, they are all disposable single use face masks, all provide better than no protection, and a long way less than complete protection. I mean seriously, what else do you really want?

    As to masks sold on Echo Bay, they are currently only allowing their "preferred" sellers to sell face masks, which speaks nothing about quality and/or value, and everything about Echo Bay's dodgy practices. My advice, buy whatever masks you like, from any place other than Echo Bay!

    • all provide better than no protection

      Please read up on it a bit before making an unfortunately incorrect statement. Not knowing is one thing, but being confidently wrong is dangerous. Viruses are incredibly small, smaller than smoke in the air. Even N95 masks provide mediocre protection against them.

      Low-quality masks can't filter out even sawdust, let alone microscopic particles when you take a breath (the airflow is substantial, it simply sucks it through the mask). These masks may catch some of the droplets from your coughs, but only before they get fully saturated.

      • Why would the average person be using a "fully saturated" mask in any case? We're not talking about medical personnel, we're talking about masks that average everyday Australians would wear while out on a shopping trip etc. If there was any reason for the mask to get "fully saturated", the wearer clearly should not be out and about in the first place.

        As to a mask that can't even filter sawdust, I've certainly never seen such a thing.

      • I've read plenty and that statement is broadly correct for public transmission, even moreso where community transmission is not a big issue but mask wearing is still compulsory (ie large areas of Melb). dcash's error is implying that all masks are (sort of) equal. If you're an accidental carrier the barrier won't be anywhere near as effective in masks which don't have particular characteristics - eg min 3 layers, a melt-blown layer, decent nose clip etc.