We downgraded our bin litre size from 120L to 80L and rates for inner west Sydney went down from $544/pa to $470/pa.
With a 55L Bin this world go down to $443pa.
A simple saving since we never get anywhere near filling out bin each week!
[NSW] Reduce Your Bin Capacity to Save $ @ Selected Local Councils

Last edited 06/10/2020 - 23:40 by 3 other users
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@Weshouldgetsushi: Insanity.
Especially since the last few years, paying a loan below 500k has been cheaper than rent, in most of the emptier states (qld, wa, nt, etc).
@MasterScythe: Don't get much for <500k in Perth these days.
Unless you like living in the ghetto.
Which to be fair is about 2/3 of Perth…
@HelpMeiCantSee: Haha. There are people buying blocks <170sqm!
There's only one city in WA, and that is surrounded by desert. So I guess with the lack of viable public transport, parking, and poor road infrastructure people are trying to live close to the CBD?
rates is local council, substation upgrades are energy company. no wonder people get fleeced when they're too lazy to even understand this stuff let alone advocate for themselves around it.
@dec1an: It wasn't a substation upgrade anyway, it was a transition from overhead to underground power.
The city did a poll whether people in the suburb wanted it. The city has paid in full and the residents are paying half back to the city.
How the heck $9000 per property is considered half I don't know. I suspect the city was stupid and got ripped off. I could see the number of crews running and how long it took.. The company made an absolute killing (probably a few hundred percent profit margin).
The poll was done before we moved into the area, not that my one vote would have changed anything.
Also I've worked in asset management, it's a crock as replacement costs are factored into ordinary utility rates. The only reason to pay extra is to bring the replacement forward of when it is actually cost beneficial to do so.. Which is whay happened of course BUT the residents should have only paid the residual value of the existing assets. I fear we've paid for the whole damn new one and then some. Idiots in council, I tell you.
OMG are your rates only $1000? Seriously $2500 in WA is common.
Victoria enters the chat
You only pay $2,500? My humble house pays about half that per quarter.
@justtoreply: I pay $1810/QTR for my investment property in Brisbane. And $700/QTR for investment in Sydney. The house I live in (Sydney), I pay $600/qtr
same here, wish our local council would consider this. we have changed from verge collection to 3 free skip bins pa. we probably only ever order 1 bin maybe once every 2 yrs, but we see our neighbour use all 3 every year full of rubbish.
Never heard of free skip bins before. I only see some skip bins at the markets and shopping centres which are supposed to be free for use for everyone?
I only see some skip bins at the markets and shopping centres which are supposed to be free for use for everyone?
lol no, those bins are supposed to be used for builders to dump their dangerous demo waste in.
Please post on OzDowngrade… This is OzBargain…
Is there a link to OzCompost?
Next step: How to cancel bins service?
Not possible.
Tried to do this years agoNext step: How to cancel your mail
Next step how to cancel life and everything is free.
Death.
Always a viable option
Next step: How to cancel your mail
AusPost are doing a good job of that themselves…
Ask the guy that uses the park BBQ for his cooking needs. I bet he’s looked into this.
Up until someone to use it when he’d just started his casserole lol, best thread
He was the guy stealing his neighbour's electricity too right?
Well, it wasn't exactly stealing, he just 'borrowed' power when he needed because it was more convenient to do so.
linky?
Oh How I miss his shenanigans!
is there a link to this insightful reading?
declare yourself as sovereign citizen?
no council rates..etc, bargain?
Since March 2020, we keep filling up a bin and a half/week - 4 adults.
The halves go to the neighbor's.Why you have so much rubbish? Is your yellow bin also full?
We have the 80LT bin, we consider it is small, and yes of course Recycling Bin and Garden bin are always full :)
Seperate soft plastics if not doing so already. It greatly reduces bin volume
@tbgoose: Definitely. I’m genuinely interested to know what people are putting in normal bin to fill it up. Aside from disposable nappies for people with young kids, I can’t think of much. Soft plastics can be put aside and taken to woolies etc, all organic matter in green bin (if your council has stepped up)/compost/worm farm, the rest recycled. Seems to me the recycle bin should switch places with normal bin in terms of collection frequency.
@Usernames: I am in Lake Macquarie Council. Green bin for garden, food scrapes collected weekly And Red rubbish and Yellow recycling bins alternative weeks. We generally have one small bag a week for Green and Red and use neighbours bins. Bread bags, etc all go to Coles and Woolworths, 10c refund containers to Return and Earn meaning Yellow bin about 1/2 full at the most.
Step on all recycling containers. Makes a difference.
I am living under Parramatta council and 80L bin is $423 and 140L bin is $440 for the waste management fee, so maybe you can either your waste or get a bigger bin.
Yeah you could actually fix that
Do you eat out everyday to not have enough rubish to fill your bin?
Reckon eating out tales more room in the bin compared to home cooking.
Eating out wouldn't take up any at all.
Only if you bring it home.
Our council is the opposite , if you get your bin replaced its about 1/3 less capacity.. you get zero discount you helping the environment by costing them less space at landfill and funnily enough saving them money. My current bin is like a mecchano set of bolts and nuts holding it together as that capacity is not enough as it is and Im not replacing it with the smaller size. Some councils offered larger sizes for free because of covid but not ours.
You can buy the big ones from bunnings. If the lid is compatible then go buy a big one and swap the lid over.
Thanks for that, lid is also held together with metal strips and epoxy … but they sell the lids too..
https://www.bunnings.com.au/handy-240l-green-wheelie-bin_p45…
https://www.bunnings.com.au/handy-yellow-replacement-lid-for…
really odd. my council just replaces the bins when i told them it's getting worn out.
So will OPs. But the "new" standard size is smaller, and because of that they don't want to accept the replacement.
I know someone that pays for the cheapest bins but then as people move out in the street he goes and swaps his bin for their jumbo bin.
Yikes, $500 annual rates - that's a bargain in itself!
I'm paying almost $4000 for a townhouse…. Good old MelbourneI concur… I don't think there are any suburb with rates under $1000 per year in Melbourne.
Average is $2,500 I believe, and $4000 I hope it's on the highest side.Under $1000 is possible but it'll have to be units and flats/apartments. I have to assume the OP lives in some form of multi-residential with rates like that.
Well considering rates are a proportion of property value I’m guessing your property is worth a lot.
The reasons to ditch Melbourne seem to be growing by the day.
I'm paying almost $4000 for a townhouse…. Good old Melbourne
what, how? My Melb home is past the 1.5 mil mark and I pay around $2200 per annum.
Holy shit. Your rates are ~ $500 per year???????????? Mine are like $2k…
i assume the red bin is $500 per year. Plus yellow bin, other bins and other council crap is $2k
Mine are like $2k…
Holy shit. Your rates are ~ $2k per year???????????? Mine are like $3.5k…
JV your mask is too low
I'm jogging.
(user name checks out…)
No they're not.
$443 annual rates for a city like Sydney? No way…
This isn’t a bargain.
Better than $4000 Apple Notebooks
Not if it's the same as saying "Buy this lesser specced $3000 one instead"
The following will significantly reduce waste:
1. Worm farm/compost and leave it in the garage, they are very resilient and makes good fertiliser
2. Dig a hole at the backyard in a sunny spot for composting.We went from half bin full (5 bags) to 1 or 2 bags. Most veggie, and fruit scrap gets turned into fertiliser/soil.
True. Family of 5 and opted for an 80l bin when we moved to our new place, about two years ago. We struggled a bit initially then started worm farm and compost bin both and reduced our waste by about 30% plus savings on buying fertiliser for our vege patch and garden bed plants.
Worm farm may sound difficult but actually simple and easy. Worms turn your kitchen green waste into compost faster than an ordinary sun based compost bin (which smells terrible too). So if you are wondering which one to use, if cannot do both I would suggest a worm farm from my experience.And saving $$s is one thing but the feeling we are helping your planet and raising our three kids who are trained to put their half eaten fruits and peels into the little green bin under the sink.. priceless !
Black Soldier Fly maggots eat everything so fast it doesn’t have a chance to rot, and they out-compete regular fly maggots
(and the flies don’t enter the house or other people)
Thanks OP. Didnt know you can do this even, until your post. Apparently my council in vic also supports that. It’s not huge amount of savings around $21/pa (per bin) But why pay for extra something that you dont even need.
$21 for a cheap deal on ozbargin to spend on.
Our council went to fortnightly bins for hard waste so we had to go up in bin size.
Worried that landlords will grab hold of this and require renters to only use tiny bins.
All the bins in my area are always stuffed chocas. The cockatoo's in my area absolutely love it tho.
Same thing in my state. I actually thought it was normal?
Is it possible to entirely cancel the bin service and just dump one's rubbish in neighbours bins? (with their permission of course)
I would have no qualms giving you paintball welts if you were on my street.
Edit: you edited in the bit about permission but I'll leave my comment as a thought for others.
And on a related note I'd like to ping me some graffiti tag tards (can't call them artists as they can't do art if they can only tag).
This is why I won't let myself buy a paintball gun BTW.
Use a BB gun instead.
Why? Who cares, a) it’s a rubbish bin, b) unused space, c) are you a toad?
I'm my experience people using my bin
A) could ask first
B) shouldn't contaminate my recycling
C) shouldn't put things in my general waste bin that can be recycled
D) shouldn't require me to wage through their rubbish to fix B+C above
E) shouldn't do it when my bin is almost full (which ok is only a few times a year, but it has happened) because sometimes I've got a bag to put out the next day too you know. And I think it's fair I should be able to put it in my own bin rather than my neighbours.
F) depending on frequency, these people should stop and consider how much waste they are producing rather than expecting a get out of jail free card. Generating inordinate amounts of rubbish each week is not ok
G) I'm up to 6 valid reasons. I win, you lose.If people were actually responsible and respectful and stopped to think about the future they're creating then no I don't have an issue with occasional use of my bin.
Maybe why you can't see is because you're behind a mountain of trash?
If they've cancelled their bin service (not sure this is actually possible, but just continuing this hypothetical) then they're making it more expensive for everyone else and not paying for their own waste disposal.
Is this only for innerwest?
Do they have a 5-10 litre option for people who generating very little waste? Can someone who lives a zero waste life choose to have no bin service and pay no fee? Would seem absurd if the latter isn't an option.
Policing it is the issue. You would always get people who do generate waste still canceling their service and using others bins. I couldn't think of a better way to make neighbourhoods dysfunctional (ie: neighbours hate each other) personally. If it weren't for the douches you're right it'd be great.
Just talk with neighbour. Get the larger bin and divide the fee. Then you both share that bin.
Seems like inner west council is pretty transparent with their fees; unlike Burwood council’s site. Will give them a call tomorrow to ask.
$547
Parramatta council only allows upgrade from standard 140L to 240L. No smaller sizes available.
This deal is rubbish
Can’t reduce my bin capacity with all those menulog bags
Mad, mine is$411 for 120L and $313 for $80L. Gonna check it out this week
Upvote even though its irrelevant to me. I live in an apartment. This is what most people would be interested and benefit from, rather than those shitty and stupid games (i am not against games and I also play games on consoles and computer) posted by an idiot everyday!
Doesn’t seem like all areas like Ashfield it doesn’t allow you to downgrade at all :/
I’m surprised how little rubbish people claiming they create…
Our kitchen bin gets filled up every second day… I have 2 very young children, but it’s not just the nappies though, there are also wipes, food waste, snack wrappings, non recycleable food packagings.. etc
@Tiggrrrrr: Who on earth would buy a 300sqm block in the emptiest state?!?!?!?!?!?! That’s just madness