Found this deal last night, it seems the lowest price so far.
I never dealt with them but did find some previous posts on Ozbargain. Looks like they have pick-up available, so walk-in/pick up might be better choice.
You might ask for price match at JB, OW if they have in stock.
I called JB and showed them this deal, eventually paid $2363 for iPhone 12 Pro 512 Silver + Apple Care at JB today.
Yes
This might be below ur budget by hey u are still saving money🤣
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Is that PU leather ?
I found this for you. Your phone might need this case
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not bad
that does not exclude 'not good'
good size
$2k for a phone…LoL
The Apple fanbois are willing to pay what ever price tag.
Yea blardy stupid…Apple is a genius marketing company.
I've known a few families spent 10k+ each year on brand new iPhones, Macbooks, iPads, Airpods Pro. I told them switch to Samsung brand and save at least 5K per year they weren't interested it. It's like talking to a brick and these people have been brainwashed by Apple.
@The-Kremlin: lol the only brain-washed are the haters who trawl EVERY thread that has an Apple device in it. Seriously, dude - haven't you got better things to do? What's more insane - buying Apple products, or obsessing over people who buy Apple products?
I know you won't be able to comprehend just how sad it is to obsess over people who use Apple products - you'll just retort with the age-old classic of DaE aPpLe ShEeP, without a hint of irony at the fact that you're bleeting the same, tired cliche that every other hater bleets.
You could amost buy an M1 based Macbook Pro and a 32GB iPad 8th gen for that…
That is just to start. Total Cost of Ownership would be way higher.
I'll never pay over a grand. Bought a OnePlus 7T from US before I moved home , $900aud best phone Ive ever owned
I bought the 12 pro max for the camera. Not as good as most DSLRs with external light triggers. But I can fit it in my pocket. Xmas videos were recorded in 4k 60hz, that's something most DSLRs out there in the world aren't capable of.
I briefly owned an IPhone 11 Pro (3 days).
Could not believe how people could live with all those missing features that an android of 25% of the cost has.
You do not actually need to understand.
Apple market share tells.
https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile/austra…
Apple is an astonishing company.
They have somehow convinced non-tech enthusiasts (e.g. an average IPhone buyer*) to buy their phones at double the price of a phone an average tech-enthusiast will (e.g. Android flagships include Samsung S, OnePlus, Xioamis etc) – with less features.
I can't think of any other product like this. For usually enthusiasts buy higher priced products than non-enthusiasts, as they come with more or newer features.
*With exceptions.
An N amount of features doesn't necessarily make a phone great. Give this to a non-technical person and tell them about all these features, I doubt most of them will care about it, use it.
A lot of people see this 'trickle' innovation as a way for Apple to profit, maybe it is, I see it as their way of slowly teaching people to be somewhat tech literate. iPhone wasn't new, but their angle was new and very approachable and spawned a whole new generation of users that saw technology for some specialised operators now it's literally a fashion item.
It's also the ability of the device to be able to create an onboarding flow to invite and teach users over time how to do things that has helped make iPhone immensely popular. IMO, iPhone was purposely made to be simple to seduce and teach a whole new generation of users to a "new" device.
@nicolascage: I would go with the profit theory. I guess 120 HZ will be their new big thing and selling point in 1 - 2 generations to make people upgrade from prior handsets.
"Give this to a non-technical person and tell them about all these features, I doubt most of them will care about it, use it."
Agreed. But I still find it astonishing many non-technical people upgrade iPhones yearly at these price points.
Technical people who know what they are getting and decided the iPhone is what's best for them - that I find completely normal and realise value for money isn't their main priority.
I care more about how I use my phone in 4 years' time rather than valuing at the face of purchase.
There's no point in valuing a car based on how much iron, plastic, rubber it has.
I'll pay a bit more for a car that is more reliable, driving experience, depreciation value, etc…
Different people see things differently, your "features" aren't the "features" I want.
Now that the new iPhone 12 camera almost has parity with the best Android phones and the new Macbook M1 chip wipes the floor with most Intel chips I'm seriously considering end my life long affiliation with Windows and Android. Apple catching up and overtaking on the hardware stakes is not something they've done in years.
I would definitely buy an M1 for the battery life alone (if its true what the reviews say) if I was in the market.
Especially at the price that its listed for it seems like a true bargain.
Going from a OnePlus 8 Pro was like stepping back 3 years in time though. I just didn't realise how many things android made easy (e.g. easily copying and pasting audio files from PC without going through ITunes, and being able to open the same audio files in 2 different apps with a shared file system … just 1 example of many) which an IPhone made frustrating.
@fd9: I'm interested in any other issues. All of my music is via Spotify the copying of music isn't a problem for me.
There seem to be some big integration benefits of having a Macbook and iPhone. I copy a lot of photos from my phone to laptop but it's not as straightforward as it should be. Apple seem to allow this via WiFi.
@C0mbat: Yes that would be nice to have everything it in together and just transfer over WiFI.
I did try a MacBook briefly, but found it disrupting my established workflow too much. Might try again next time I need a laptop if they keep what the lead they have in that space at the moment.
I've responded in a comment below with the other issues* you requested. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/594719#comment-9882813
Not so much issues, just missing features.
"Now that the new iPhone 12 camera almost has parity with the best Android phones "
Xiaomi Mi 11 says hold my beer:
Android you have no privacy though. Feels like being naked in public.
When Google's getting sued by the FBI and Facebook for protecting your data too hard I will gladly go back to Android.
I never considered privacy as a key feature as I assumed almost every app I have, website I use and purchase I make online is collecting a bunch of data about me which will be on-sold. But if that is important to you any price can be justified.
Name a few please
These are features that were important to me (which I missed enough to sell the iPhone) when changing from Samsung s20+ ($784 via JB Telstra Deal) / OnePlus 8 Pro (900-1300 depending on if you want band 28) phones:
I also didn't realise the 1 generation devaluation of an iPhone when selling as I thought they held value quite well but realised. Current price of a used but mint condition 11 Pro 256 GB is $950-1050.
Things I did like about an iPhone
- Super surprised at the amazing battery life on the 11 Pro. Superb and 1-2 hours better than my OnePlus 8 Pro (but I guess lower refresh rate, smaller screen etc). On day one of my 11 pro I got 1 hour screen on time per 5% battery for a theoretical 20 hours. This settled to 1 hour screen on time per 10% battery on day 2 but still amazing.
- Huge selection of cases and screen protectors, and can buy one locally the same day. Absolutely not the case for OnePlus.
- I liked that I bought a used iPhone and knew I would be able to sell it relatively easily for almost the same price as thats what everyone is searching for
- Lots of used devices on the market with remaining Apple care + available (+ easy to see battery health) gave confidence when buying used.
- Design choices that don't make phones unusable - e.g. OnePlus 8 pro curved display was a real annoyance and ruined the entire phone for me with ghost touches (and none of the available cases hid the curve) + light reflecting off the curved area making the first letter of each line obscured to read .
Agree but also disagree with a few points.
I came from using Android, switched to iPhone 12 recently.
In display fingerprint sensor
It's hit/miss every now and then with the accuracy and you will have to reset the fingerprint when it stops recognising your fingerprint. Personally when I check for notifications usually whatsapp/messages I have the intention to reply so I lift up the phone anyway.
Always on display
True would love to have this. You do need to unlock the phone in order to see the details of the notifications though
120 HZ
I tend to disagree with this. Yes again it's a nice to have but most users especially iPhone users have not experienced higher frequency and apple's optimisation has made the scrolling experience very seamlessly. I read a few reviews unless you are scrolling up and down like crazy, what benefit do you get with 120hz not to mention the battery drain.
Shared file system
I personally have never used this function. "2 music players or PDF readers pointing to one folder. Bit of a specific niche usage but I liked having 2 music players paused at different locations" this sounds like some savvy stuff.
Faster charging speeds
One thing I miss Android for.
Display
iPhone 12 has one of the best display in the market. If not the best.
Multitasking
I think iOS offers very similar experience especially with copy and paste.
USB C
Agree. Very strange Apple still uses lightening.
**Home screen, Launchers*
Beauty of customisation when it comes to Android
Dual apps
Again, I feel like this is not being used as much.
Things I hated about Android
- App stability: I don't know if it's just me but I find the sometimes apps crash a lot more on Android or sometimes it doesn't function the way it supposed to be.
- RAM management: Very bad with Android, apps keep being closed randomly. A way of saving batteries but it annoys the f out of me. One of the biggest reasons why I have made the jump.
- Resale value: I usually sell my phone every 2-3 years and iPhone has more resale value. A lot of Android phones are starting to cost more to buy nowadays but if you look into the market, the demand for iPhones is a lot higher than Android phones.
Just my 2c. No hate for Android but just wanted to share my experience.
@sauce2k: Thanks for the perspective :) I do understand a lot of what I posted isn't a concern for many.
To answer a few questions you posed:
"You do need to unlock the phone in order to see the details of the notifications though"
For me this is a benefit. I wouldn't want anyone reading my notifications.
There is however a setting which allows notification details to be seen without unlocking (not on the Always on Display, but on the lock screen without a password/ face id/ fingerprint) - though you do need to wake the phone up (tap, lock button). I never keep that on though as I don't want my messages being read by someone else. I am not sure if you meant unlocking as just waking the phone up or unlocking the security lock - so this point may be mute if you meant the former.
"What benefit do you get with 120hz not to mention the battery drain."
The benefit is mainly when scrolling - reading. I.e. scrolling down a news page and reading as you go. Things like that.
Whereas with a 60 hz you would scroll down 5 cm, pause, read the paragraph, and repeat - with a 120 Hz screen you can continuously scroll and read - if this suits you.
"A lot of Android phones are starting to cost more to buy nowadays"
Yea, it is quite crazy what a Samsung flagship costs on release. I heard, according to YouTuber Dave Lee, that they are priced this way to be able offer discounts during sales events. Indeed, Samsung phones (new, not used) devalue like crazy, with the Note 20 Ultra goes from $2000 -> Amazon deal of $1200 in a space of months.
If you had no other choice, I'd say you could live without 90% of those features, maybe you couldn't live without the Dual Apps feature if that's the way you communicate with other people.
Only thing i'm concerned with is the ability to walk in and walk out with a new phone the same day if it breaks itself. Can this be done with any Android Phone?
@nicolascage: Not trying to be a smart arse, but if I had no other choice I could live with a $100 woolies or telstra zte phone. And if it broke, buy a new one. And do that again up to 17 times before having bought one IPhone Pro Max.
On a serious note, I DO definitely see the appeal of having that sort of in person customer service that no one else offers (the closest being Samsung Care+ advanced swap but will take one day) and if that was vital for me any amount of money would be worth it. Though for me personally its not something that's at the top of my priority list.
Its is unlikely that an Android that can see eye to eye with a 2K iPhone is will cost $500. The more realistic figure is about 50% and there is only a few of them like the S20 FE 256GB and Find X Pro 2 when it is on sale. The rest a at the 1.3K to 1.5k range. Mate 40 Pro 256gb is almost as expensive as an iPhone 12 Pro 256.
My point is if you really match every major feature between an Android and iPhone, the price advantage of an Android is not as much as people think. There are features that Android has but iPhone don't have like 120hz screen, 8K video, dual apps, direct access to file system….. and there are features that iPhone has an Android don't like an integrated AI camera system (in particular the smart HDR), internal video color grading, factory calibrated screen….
At the end of the day it really depends on what your budget are and what features you are desperate for and what you can live without.
I agree my 25% number was low.
I agree if you are after something specific (like camera) you are limited to certain phones like the iPhone and Pixel, or folding screens/tablet-in-pocket (Z Fold 2 only at this stage is the only viable one in my opinion), or as the above user mentioned, if privacy was something important to you.
The insane price difference (and more so that lots of people that aren't really techy or aware of these differences go out and buy it every year and sell their old one) still makes my mind boggle though.
I don't find it insane that someone who is after a specific use case or a specific need spends whatever they need to buy a certain device be it double or ten times the cost.
Understand: buy Apple shares not Apple phones.
:P
What would you need 512gb for…?
4K Recording. I would not buy an iphone with less than 256. That is when I have the money and reason to justify it.
Put in a u3 1tb sd card for $350
You must have the first iPhone in the world that takes a SD card and use it as system internal storage.
Linux ISOs
Thx, bought 4.
Lol at all the feldspar9 comments.. and the important features listed was laughable. I remember my Android buddies would be gushing at their Google pixels and samsungs, but none of them would actually use their phone with all their features. None would be making cool videos, taking photos, consume media.. instead.. they used their phones to have some weird black and white “feature” to make their phones simpler and less usable. That’s fine to lessen your screen time, but don’t preach to me how this android feature is what makes your phone amazing.
I bought a 12 pro Max 256gb for $1970 at TGG a couple weeks ago, along with an M1 MacBook, and haven’t looked back. Bought the wife a 12 pro and Apple Watch, and we are happy that we are able to use all the features, and it may come as a surprise.. but I have a good gaming PC I built, use windows for work, and we both seriously considered android to upgrade our 4 year old phones.. but to me, the resale price for Apple products made it oh so much easier to decide.
In the end, I like that feldspar and so many of my friends who are “tech enthusiasts” love OnePlus, and other Android.. they feel they got value and features.. I feel good and comfortable in my choices too. And it would be a shame if there’s no competition, but I cringe when I have experienced both sides and feldspar’s comments are not what I and many others observe.
What is it about android users that makes them so insecure that they shit on about a product someone else is buying?
Every Apple deal has some idiots not buying the product commenting, see any of those comments on an Samsung?
It's quite lethargic, isn't it? They just can't seem to grasp the concept of the entire package of an iPhone.
The Sheeple have spoken.
I don't understand why people get so offended when others talk about pros and cons of items in a public forums, to help inform others.
Seems a bit like a cult.
@fd9: We get it, you own a $30 android that does everything the iPhone does. Enjoy your cheaper phone
@Wizard: They truly are the best at marketing and no one can deny that. Apple do some things better than anyone else and this is definitely one of them.
Some people spend $2000 on an iPhone after careful consideration and deciding it offers the features or user experience they want.
Others who haven't read a spec sheet or a single review spend $2000 on a new iPhone each year and cop $1000 in depreciation each year because there's an apple sticker so it must mean its good + attended some induction to become fervent defenders of the brand.
@fd9: When the only thing you say about apple is it's marketing, then you're talking out of our own a***. Yes, they have a strong marketing department, that other companies use as a baseline. The thing is, yes, Apple can and should add a price premium to their products. It's simple supply and demand, and everyone is trying to find their edge, but Apple's edge seems to be much more tangible to the public.
The Korean companies have strength in RAM and their 120Hz among other things, so they can stick it in their products without blowing up their prices. If Apple added 120Hz, I think it would be much more expensive than it already is, with poorer battery life. Apple do make compromises in hardware to maximise their profit, but to the end user, the difference is neglible, and the other benefits outweigh the downsides.
As a consumer, I'm much more concerned if I bought a $2K Galaxy flip, only to find out JB sells it for $999 after a few months to clear our stock already tells you more than you need to know. Same thing if I compared how much I sold my iPhone 7+ vs. equivalent Galaxy, let alone other android phones.
Apple have it in their best interests to back up their marketing with proper R&D and smart aquisitions (such as the intro of M1 chips), if they do not, then they face irrelevency like they did in the 90s (when their PowerPCs were expensive, and less powerful than equivalent PCs). Even then you can appreciate the quirkiness and elegance of some of these, and they were still a joy to use. This isn't an identical environment to those times, and I don't expect, nor do I want/need Apple to have the largest marketshare in Phones, PCs or anything.. but to say it's all marketing is just too dismissive.
The cringiest thing I've seen with Windows/Android fanboys lately is that LinusTechTips guy, he encapsulates the personification of the above comments. Just stick to what you love/enjoy.. how many times I've heard these same old comments about 'sheeple, marketing hype', and I ask how their weekend was, and all they're doing is just reflashing their Windows gaming PCs or android phones due to some issue here or there.
I don't understand why people get so offended when others talk about pros and cons of items in a public forums, to help inform others.
Uh, like these comments?
Could not believe how people could live with all those missing features that an android of 25% of the cost has.
$2k for a phone…LoL
The Apple fanbois are willing to pay what ever price tag.
Yea blardy stupid…Apple is a genius marketing company.
It's like talking to a brick and these people have been brainwashed by Apple.
And your own dumb comments:
[Apple] have somehow convinced non-tech enthusiasts (e.g. an average IPhone buyer*) to buy their phones at double the price of a phone an average tech-enthusiast will (e.g. Android flagships include Samsung S, OnePlus, Xioamis etc) – with less features.
I never considered privacy as a key feature as I assumed almost every app I have, website I use and purchase I make online is collecting a bunch of data about me which will be on-sold. But if that is important to you any price can be justified.
That comment above is what I love about Android babies. They simply cannot fathom how important the above is to an iPhone user.
@ThithLord: You sound really stupid saying "they simply cannot fathom how important the above is to an iPhone user" and in the same comment claiming someone is dumb to buy an android because they want other specific features.
You also cannot seem to read, as I said "if that is important to you any price can be justified".
Ah, yes, classic Sheeple me - having owned a grand total of two iPhone. My previous iPhone having been four years old. Yes, total Sheeple - going out and buying every iPhone that comes out. Totally
Ohh… really missed these pathetic android boys that really cares with apple product. Imagine living their life lol.
Damn. OOS now. OZ bargained.
Hi OP. Is it possible that you could share the receipt? Thanks…
TA…
Seems to me like anyone who needs that much storage would be much better off buying any Android phone with a MicroSD slot
any good $2K+ phone cases to go with this phone???