Sleeping Duck Mattress

lknight on 08/01/2021 - 13:13
Last edited 08/01/2021 - 13:58

Greetings All

I'm in the market to buy a king mattress and sleeping duck seem to fit in my budget. However the website is very fancy and heavily marketed via youtube and uses words, which only sounds good, to describe its product features. Ex, AirGrown foams, hexa-cells, antigravity, componentadapt system. breathetech, multi-zoned steel spring system and so on.

Any sleeping duck owners here that can comment on the Mattress quality and their experience? I get that Mattress is a subjective thing etc and there is a 100 day trial period but I just cant be bothered going through the hassle of returning something.

Also the reviews in productreview website are all 5 star from customers who've never reviewed before. So this is kinda sus.

Koala on the other hand has had much greater rep at least on this website and its almost $1000 cheaper - in the end its all foam aint it?

Also, their warranty has some restrictions on what type of base it is used so I'll be limited with their crappy looking base.

Appreciate your thoughts. thank you!

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Comments

      • jimbobaus on 09/01/2021 - 06:46
        +4

        You would think so…. and I thought so until I learned the science.

        • srhardy on 09/01/2021 - 13:40

          no low density, bigger air bubbles trapes more air

          Latex is dense as all hell and its problem is friction generates a LOT of heat

          and speaking of trapped air, foam mattresses are glued and that also prevents air circulation and adds to the heat too!

          In QLD a mattress that nice in a showroom for 5min can be way way way, different in the first night sleeping on it as I discovered!

          i should have gone back to the factory that made my previous one! (see other post)

      • xsacha on 13/01/2021 - 10:29

        I thought this too but after testing various beds I found latex to be the most comfortable and nice temperature even though everyone said it would be too hot. I'm in QLD too. It was hotter than some other beds but it really isn't a problem. The beds usually have a summer and a winter side.
        There is a night and day difference between synthetic and real latex though — especially the smell.

      • sAmiZZle on 01/02/2021 - 00:13

        No the holes trap air in and it heats up apparently

    • srhardy on 09/01/2021 - 13:36
      +5

      Best mattress I bought was direct from a small company in Springwood. I was in HN's and took a pic of the label of a mattress I liked and googled the maker and found an address. I went in and they had a showroom and the owner was ripping someone a new one for a mistake, but he saw I was leaving and he came and gave me a lesson on everything and anything matress related, inc a tour and showed me the different parts quality (clips v's twisted, pocket, turns, edge protection) ~ man oh man afterwards I could have sold them myself!

      I chose the best bits he showed me and he gave me a price delivered and I got 20 years and many moves out of it. Then it was the spare for visitors for another 10.

      Thats a good mattress… Best education ever…. direct does not mean online, it means finding the factory and getting to see how they are made, what goes into it and picking exactly the tech you want. I paid $900 delivered, the same or similar in HN's was 2-3K - mattress only!

      • stalker878 on 11/01/2021 - 00:25
        +1

        Which brand is that? I am in Brisbane too.

      • Devils Advocate on 12/01/2021 - 12:19
        +6

        You said you googled the mattress, and after buying it you got 30 years use. Google has been around for 18 years, and popular for about 14.

        • cbastien on 13/01/2021 - 10:11

          And even if he was using "Google"as a generic term for "search engine" , in the 90s you would not find the address of every small shop on the internet super easily. And also there is the digital camera issue in his story.

          • srhardy on 13/01/2021 - 13:37
            -1

            @cbastien: I didnt google it, I was walking door to door sales when I stumbled upon it and it matched the NAME on the TAG of a mattress Id looked at in Harvey Normans (3mobile snapped a pic of the tag, then tucked the bedding back in…. sneeky). They had an upstairs showroom for buyers and it was where they were made (as I found out, seeing how the magic is made is a eyeopener too, as well as how and with what)

            I realised they are not listed on google, might have moved or closed but more likely they sold to stores (Like HN) and not to the public unless you was passing traffic

            • cbastien on 13/01/2021 - 14:55
              +2

              @srhardy: Ah ah, I m super confused with everything you said, did you take a picture of the tag or not ?

    • The-Kremlin on 10/01/2021 - 08:14
      +5

      Would like to see where you got the stats from regarding the return rates, that seems way too high.

      Also a major reason for this would be the 100 day return policy which at the time may not have been a policy for the standard mattresses.

      Also, talking about mark up…what about these traditional mattresses that us consumers would have to pay for the rent of the physical store, the employees and not to mention the price in the multiple thousands…it's a bit rich to talk about mark ups comparing the two.

      • jimbobaus on 11/01/2021 - 08:09

        If you look at my previous comments.
        I have widely spoken about traditional mattress pricing.

        40% off is the standard
        50% off is the best price usually.

        Mark up is due to high RRP’s which were created when Mr Harvey got into the mattress industry and changed the game.

        • Bargain Hunter 007 on 12/01/2021 - 10:16
          +1

          Yeah.. but where are you citing your return rates?

    • bwad on 10/01/2021 - 14:06

      Can't say I agree with much of this. I have purchased three Sleeping Duck mattresses over 5+ years (two kings and a queen). They are brilliant for my bad back (I have firm) and have never been offered to leave a positive review for money. I have left reviews with 5 stars as their service is outstanding. They have increased in prices over the years, but our first king we bought over 5 years ago only started sagging at the edges so we replaced it. The mattresses are cool to sleep on and I know as I'm a hot sleeper.

      Back then it cost $1100 or so. After trawling bed shops and not finding a single bed that we liked, we tried this mattress as it was no risk. The traditional stores also have slightly different model names so you can't compare which is a widespread industry tactic that really pissed me off. Comparable beds in stores were 3-4 times the price, so replacing it after 5 years (with two heavy people sleeping on it every night) I think is very good value. I have recommended to several friends and have the same feedback. I know what markups traditional stores have, I'm sure Sleeping Duck do too.

      Anyway just my experience, I know nothing about beds and not related to SD in any way.

      • abuch47 on 14/01/2021 - 11:07

        got 12 years out of a trad. springs would still be fine with a new topping foam.

    • ribze1 on 10/01/2021 - 22:29

      Thanks for this.

      My body runs hot so a mattress that makes me hotter in summer is a no no.

      • nawapb on 11/01/2021 - 06:51
        +1

        You can claim you are hot in bed!

  • Ocker on 08/01/2021 - 15:34
    -3

    Another piece of dodgy marketing by SD is they boast being voted the #1 mattress for 3 years in a row by choice magazine.
    Reality is yes, they were voted #1 for the first 2 years but for last year they were voted EQUAL best with 2 other brands.
    A bit misleading to say THE best 3 years in a row.

  • Frank Murphy on 08/01/2021 - 16:34
    +2

    We tried the MiB with Koala - without a word of exaggeration, easily the hardest mattress I have ever encountered…by a long margin. I'm convinced that they have different hardness/softness levels based on whichever month they came out of China. The QC is either ignored or has failed.There simply can't be that many people happy with such a super-hard mattress.Gave it a decent trial at around 75 days before the wife and I had had enough of waking up sore and sorry every morning.

    We were going to try a SD, but decided to flick the MiB idea when we found a traditional Aussie mattress maker that has similar delivery and trial period as the MiB companies.
    It just doesn't come in a box. We bought one and haven't looked back - this was about a year ago. Have a look at Sherman mattresses. I'm not affiliated in any way, just a very satisfied customer. I believe they even have a showroom in Melbourne.

  • bundy23 on 08/01/2021 - 21:49
    +3

    I've had my Sleeping Duck for about 3 and a bit years and for 9 months of the year it's perfect EXCEPT in summer when it gets so hot it's almost unbearable. At least once a week I end up in the spare room on a 20-year-old uncomfortable spring mattress. Their help team were awesome though and sent me out a cooling topper for free, sadly it didn't work. In summer I use a bedjet to try and get through because I really don't want to give up the mattress.

    It's probably just me though as I hate the heat. Example: I live in Tassie and wear shorts 365 days a year :-)

  • lainey13 on 08/01/2021 - 22:32

    I've had my sleeping duck for more than 4 years now. I've tries both firm and medium insert and stuck with the firm. For me the mattress rss was a good combo of support and firmness yet with a cushioney feel. I tried it out in the showroom before buying. I also tried the Ecosa and it was so freaking FIRM! Like the beds you get in Asian countries… Might as well sleep on the floor.
    It's still good for us, I like how the partner disturbance is minimal (eg doesnt feel like a boat when one of us gets on) and the edges don't sag. I don't have any heat issues with it, full foam/latex will always be worse.

  • Chuppa on 09/01/2021 - 00:01

    Recently bought the SD King Firm. There is a smell for a week or two, but it’s not hideous. The mattress is heavy! Takes the mattress a few weeks to firm up. Back was sore for those weeks and spat my dummy with SD and had the extra firm inserts sent out earlier. The extra firm feels like sleeping on a concrete floor. Went back to the firm and at the 1 month mark finding it quite comfortable. Back pain has gone. Like the comfort factor when sleeping on my side - no more sore shoulder.

    Have found this mattress to be a lot cooler than my previous non-pillowtop Sealy.

    Make sure you have the correct base otherwise you won’t be covered by warranty.

    https://www.sleepingduck.com/au/faq/#faq-warranty-bed-base-i…

    If using a slatted base, please ensure that the distance between the slats is less than 8cm. The reason for this is that the pocket springs need support in order to function correctly. Gaps wider than 8cm will leave a significant number of springs unsupported and will affect both the feel and longevity of the mattress.

    Anything deemed unsuitable and unsupportive will void your 10 year warranty.

    • John Kimble on 09/01/2021 - 19:12

      Make sure you have the correct base otherwise you won’t be covered by warranty.

      I feel like this is a standard clause for all pocket spring mattresses, traditional or MIB.

      Eg https://www.sealy.com.au/customer-support/guarantee-informat…

      Mattress damage due to an inappropriate foundation. A Sealy mattress is designed for full performance when used in conjunction with a matching Sealy foundation. If the mattress is damaged through its use in conjunction with a non-Sealy foundation, the warranty may be void.

  • OzHunterNSW on 09/01/2021 - 10:16
    +1

    You are right to be alarmed… these "reviews" are FAKE… the wording is scripted.
    You need to go try out the mattress. Go lay on it. Go jump on it. Spend some time rolling around on it.

    This is an item you will spend a lot of time using… you owe it to your self to now conduct a practical examination.

  • mqi on 09/01/2021 - 10:24

    IMHO you hey what you pay for. I’d say you’re better of to find a reputable mattress wholesale and go there and try them. You will find something nice at a reasonable price. I live in Sydney and went to Dial a Bed.

  • Speckled Jim on 09/01/2021 - 10:43

    Also the reviews in productreview website are all 5 star from customers who've never reviewed before. So this is kinda sus.

    At the header or footer of the reviews, if it has "Ambassador Review" it means they keep the product in return for an "honest, impartial" review. It's reasonable to think there would be some underlying bias, given they're getting a freebie.

  • BeamMeUp on 09/01/2021 - 12:17

    I have a SD. Previously had a Tempur that we paid a lot of $$ for and persevered with for years but finally gave up on, too hot! A quality inner spring before that. The SD is fine and good value considering its a bit cheaper than a lot of others. We went and tried them out twice in Richmond before purchasing. The option to try and vary the firmness was great. I started the medium and then went to a soft, my wife hard and then to medium, they sent us out both replacement tops promptly. We got 2 mediums in case I felt i wanted to go back to the medium to some point. Overall very good Customer service as well. Yes they are warm on the top but much less than the Tempur.

  • jeofforypottel on 09/01/2021 - 14:27
    +16

    Hi, I thought I would chime in on this conversation as I have a mattress factory. My knowledge may help some people. This is just my opinion and it's not necessarily true, it's just my observations and I'll try to be unbiased.

    Most boxed mattresses are made of low density polyfoam (plastic). If the average person laid on their side on on one of these it would not conform to the shoulder and hips very well. Also, for the average person, it would have lost it's shape within a few years, sometimes sooner.

    I honestly believe you could get a better result from going somewhere local and getting an innerspring for around $1000. Just having springs is adding a-lot of durability. This still isn't the solution though as a mattress like this may not last beyond a couple of years. It depends on the foam and how much the springs give. If the springs are too firm, the foam is crushed and doesn't last as long.

    The sleeping duck uses polyfoam, and a standard pockespring unit. The polyfoam (plastic) in the sleeping is of a very good grade (for plastic foam). It's probably the highest grade you can get in australia. It's not a bad option, at least the foam is good quality, many mattresses use terrible cheap plastic foam that doesn't last very long. The issues that I see with the sleeping duck is that the foam is too thick, around 10.5cm. This causes it too absorb bodyheat and this heat builds up. This won't be an issue for everyone, however more foam = more heat. Also, if your above 80kg, there's probably going to be dipping issues after 4-5 years. There's some reports of it happening after 2 years. It's easy to tell how good the design of a mattress is, just look how many people are reporting dipping issues on google reviews or productreview.com.au.

    Dipping issues are the worst because as soon as it dips. it's time to get a new one. If it's $1000 and you have to replace it every 2 years, that's $5000 for ten years use. And if it's not comfortable in that time, then you've got a really expensive option that wasn't very comfortable.

    If you sleep hot, just make sure the mattress has around 7cm of total foam above the springs, this is a slight trade-off for comfort, however you'll have less dipping and be less hot. Having a factory and knowing what I know, I can see how much of a minefield it is. This is why I'm not listing my brand. If I listed my brand, then this information would become less trustworthy.

    • srhardy on 09/01/2021 - 19:06
      +1

      appreciated… until someone took the time to explain why a good mattress was a MUST (you spend 1/3 of your life asleep, its the basis of your health and recovery) and why spend it on a coffin when your dead when you can enjoy a better mattress while your alive! Seeing inside the factory at all the hidden things (who will ever see the inside of how the bed is put together) makes a HUGE difference! you wouldnt want to buy a car like we seem to buy our beds!

      sticker price can be lower buying online but most AU mattress makers sell from the factory door and you can find them. They supply all the stores around you but they take a delight in a customer who wants to learn what to ask for and explain the detail on bang4buck v's quality decisions that are invisable or not put on the fancy internet mockups images…

      Its worth finding one and you will never save $100 and buy from China when you can get AU made and quality ~ budget $700-1200 for a QUEEN and then see what your getting if you buy direct from the maker and you will recommend them to others! I only let people I dont like buy a mattress without me now… revenge!

    • rnalthe2nd on 10/01/2021 - 11:41

      It's a real shame that I can't DM you because I'm interested in finding out what your brand is and where I can get it. I've had a sleeping duck mattress since 2015 and I can confirm all the issues are true. It's not terrible for $1K but I won't buy it again.

      1) Severe dipping issues - It started about 2 years in and I had the mattress topper (foam layer) replaced at my expense but I'm getting the same issues again. I'm at around 80 kg and I am only sleeping on one side on a double bed.

      Issues about the mattress getting hot on one side was less of my concern and the loss of firmness could at least be dealt with by replacing the foam layer. I thought I was supporting Aussie businesses with SD but I can't say I'm satisfied since my usage of the mattress will be less than most others getting a double yet I'm experiencing those issues.

      Having said that, 5 years is probably the time for me to get a replacement since there are hygiene issues that can't really be cleaned up with a vacuum cleaner

    • lknight on 10/01/2021 - 13:40

      thanks so much for contributing. please PM your brand if you are in NSW.

    • Adz81 on 10/01/2021 - 23:43

      Thanks so much for the feedback…

      I'm left scratching my head at a 4-5 year before sagging… I bought my first mattress 21 years ago (from a second hand store no less, just before I headed to uni), and it still rivals any others I've slept on, even more so since I grabbed a pillow topper for it two years back… The only mattress I've found that made me think, "I want THAT one" was a hotel in Melbourne that have a link to the toppers they use because they get so much good feedback on them…
      If I buy another mattress, will I get another 20 something years out of it?

    • stalker878 on 11/01/2021 - 00:37

      I would like to know too. Can u pm me?

      • stringbean402 on 12/01/2021 - 16:01
        +1

        We need another Ozmattress… they had an awesome product !

  • srhardy on 09/01/2021 - 18:55
    +4

    WHAT TO LOOK FOR

    *side support, a stiff foam edge around the edge that encases whatever is inside (spring or foams)
    *beds with wire in them should be wound and not clipped together, it lasts a LOT longer than clipped as its wound like fencing is…
    *firm is for back sleepers, medium-firm for side sleeps and you can get half and half too
    *swappable tops and toppers/layer for extra soft snoooze
    *latex can be good but make sure it has a cool gel zone too
    *the cooler you stay the better you sleep, air circulation and gelzones are an Aussie must!
    *flippable mattress, pro/cons are you can rotate and flip for longevity, some mattersses are made so they have firm, soft with a flip too
    *tops that can be removed, washed, swapped for firmness and washability are awesome!

  • [Deactivated] on 10/01/2021 - 04:09
    +2

    Can't comment on sleeping duck but i have a mattress from Koala's main competitor , Ecosa. i was sick of hearing all the adverts on TV and Radio about them so i bought from their competitor instead.

    They are similar in product but the Ecosa can be changed depending on what firmness you require and some parts are washable.

    I have had my Ecosa for at least 2 years now and i don't have any complaints , i was EXTREMELY skeptical at first because at the time it was something completely new to me in terms of mattress design and i was sick of buying cheap new mattresses every year so i decided to fork out a little bit extra.

    Off memory i think i scored a King for around $799 including free delivery and so far knock on wood its been the best $799 on a mattress i have ever spent , i even still remember the day i took it out of the box thinking…how the (profanity) did this even fit in here… it was a struggle to take out but its been good to me ever since. i am of the old-school so i still rotate it 180* every 6 months to ensure longevity but i am not sure if it works given the composition of the mattress but it helps me sleep at night so.

    For anyone interested HERE is there site , they also have a sale going on now as well so if you are in the market i would say give it a go.

  • DiscoJango on 10/01/2021 - 10:30

    I get really hot during the night, even on a winter night.

    What type of mattress would be the best to keep someone cool during the night?

    • Logical on 10/01/2021 - 12:01
      -6

      Air conditioning

    • j4ck on 10/01/2021 - 18:31

      Keen to know this too!

    • GRP on 11/01/2021 - 08:58
      +3

      Hot mattress - bed in a box is unlikely to be your answer.

      My understanding is that the multiple foam layers (yes, many also have springs) simply trap your body heat - that is you are to well insulated underneath.

      One solution is to change your bedding habits and ditch the doona/blankets and have a sheet and lightweight blanket.

      We are side sleepers but both prefer a mattress on the firmer side.

      Had a Sleeping Duck (over hyped/over promoted/over priced) not that comfortable for us (tried out medium and firm foams) and it was so hot that my wife who is a traditional cold sleeper moved to the spare room).

      Next up was a Noa Luxe - for me, probably the most comfortable mattress I have ever slept on but still running hot.

      This Wednesday a Sherman firm but fair arrives.Unlike the SD and Noa the Sherman is a more traditional style inner spring mattress and comes delivered flat/fully formed. Sherman are confident it will be cooler to sleep on than the SD and Noa and if it is not then we have the 100 day refund.Sherman have a page on their website that is about hot beds.

      Traditional bed store mattresses are generally not hot but you have to (a) wait until they are at least 50% off before you would consider buying one and (b) there is no return/refund (some offer exchange for a different firmness).

      Bedbuyer.com makes some recommendations for cool sleeping mattresses and surprisingly include Sleep Republic which is a bed in a box. After 2 fails at bed in a box I decided to not try for third time lucky. From memory there was one recommended mattress specifically designed for hot sleepers. That is likely not the solution for most people who simply want a mattress with the warmth factor of the traditional mattress we have all been sleeping on for generations.

      • DiscoJango on 11/01/2021 - 10:54

        Excellent. That’s a lot of mattresses you’ve tested there!

        I wonder what they do with returned mattresses, I don’t think they can just sell it as new again?

        • GRP on 11/01/2021 - 14:03
          +1

          Probably the biggest con of the whole MIB - they are "donated" to charity. I can't say that it is definitely the case however I imagine the MIB sellers claim a huge taxation claim for charitable donations.

          I am waiting on contact from the retailer selected local charity to contact me re picking up the Noa.

  • earth worm jim on 10/01/2021 - 11:33

    Just get an IKEA mattress. They are cheap, good quality and have lifetime warranty.

    • lknight on 10/01/2021 - 13:37
      +1

      whats the purpose of lifetime warranty if you end up with a crappy product

      • earth worm jim on 10/01/2021 - 14:56

        They are actually better quality than most high end brands and definitely when compared to SD. And if they go bad even after 10 years or so they replace it at no cost. Doesn't mean it's crap if it's cheap.

        • lknight on 10/01/2021 - 15:16

          didnt say its cheap and therefore it must be crap. my experience with ikea was bad though this was 10 years ago and I really want something that wont sag within the first few years and dealing with warranty is a headache. I went through this Sealy and was not a pleasant experience.

    • ntt on 11/01/2021 - 15:38

      all the IKEA mattresses I tested are bad in my experience.

      • earth worm jim on 11/01/2021 - 15:59

        Been using one for 4 years. No complaints so far.

        • nigel deborah on 13/01/2021 - 19:40

          Is sagging / losing shape covered under the ikea warranty?

  • Logical on 10/01/2021 - 12:05
    -1

    Every body is different, weight, shape, size etc. Try OneBed if you prefer firm yet it conforms to your body shape nicely… And if not good then return and try another brand. Have 2 OneBed's and no problem at all after 3 years.

  • Oofy Doofy on 10/01/2021 - 12:06
    +1

    What state are you in? I would go as firm as possible if you live in a warmer climate. The more you sink into the mattress, the more your average body temp increases and a lot of people complain of trouble sleeping because of it.

    On the whole I always aim for a firm mattress in general. Can always use blankets and whatever else to stay warm.

  • JuryWheel on 10/01/2021 - 12:57

    I'm trying to buy a new mattress for a 5 and 8 yr old - any suggestions? Can't see any real need to go crazy when they weigh less then 30kg!

    • Logical on 10/01/2021 - 15:07

      OneBed

      • JuryWheel on 10/01/2021 - 15:13

        Had one yourself? Their sale ends today (of course!)

        • Logical on 11/01/2021 - 00:38

          Yes have 2, refer my message just 3 posts above… which someone negged? as well as my reply to you saying OneBed…. Why would someone just neg without commenting? I found these mattresses quite firm and very comfortable at a great price. Ideal solution for kids.

    • dtc on 11/01/2021 - 16:17

      ZZZ Atelier on ebay / outlet store (not the super firm one). $200

      Or Ikea

  • Brick Tamland on 10/01/2021 - 13:51
    +1

    Buying a new mattress sucks as it's almost impossible to research products.

    The Sleeping Ducks and various other foam mattresses in a box have glowing 5 star reviews which to me seems like fake reviews. So I can't trust those reviews. Plus the marketing is so intense with so many online brands it makes me think they're all the same and its just a marketing exercise. In contrast the traditional mattresses seem to get a wildly variable reviews from 1 star to 5 star and its impossible to compare because the matresses from the same manufacturer change name from store to store.

    I have purchased a ZZZ Altier for the spare room and it does seem ok… but it hasn't been used much

    • lknight on 10/01/2021 - 14:10

      yep true. though they may compensate if you give them 5 Star, I'm hoping there will be some ethical person posting real experience. anyhow if it goes bad you can always return so Im considering SD after checking out some private mattress sellers.

  • belongsinforums on 10/01/2021 - 16:04

    Koala user here. Took a while but really comfy after getting used to it. Biggest downside is that you can't sit on the edge because itll sag. But worth for price compared to retail brands like sealy

  • jjacob on 10/01/2021 - 16:40
    +3

    Ex SD owner here. Hard to come by a negative review due to their return policy and honestly one of the most comfortable beds I've laid on for its price. BUT, if you are a hot sleeper, it's not meant for you. The pillow top gets hot even during winter and so right before its trial period, I returned it. I ended up getting the most expensive IKEA mattress with horsehair etc, and though not as soft, does not get too hot for me. Hope this helps.

    You can of course try it, preferably during summer. See if it works for you and then make a decision.

  • edgarfriendly on 10/01/2021 - 16:46

    Bought a Hugo. Made in Australia and I can't fault it. Worth a look in.

  • Lancerx on 10/01/2021 - 17:26

    Was deciding between SD and Sealy, but just can't get over how a mattress can be compressed into a box, and still hold the edge support. Chose sealy in the end

    • jeofforypottel on 10/01/2021 - 17:59
      +1

      A typical retail mattress will use a foam wall on the side of the mattress, around 7cm thick. If it isn't good quality foam it will soften rather quick. This can make it difficult for the mattress to dry out during the day. If it's good quality foam it should last a long time.

      Sleeping duck use pocketsprings and they use a thicker wire, probably 2mm, in the two rows of outside pocketsprings. They both aren't bad ways of doing it. Not as solid as the foam but a durable way of doing it. Metal lasts longer than foam.

      The way I add side support is to put a border wire around the top and bottom of the pocketsprings, then attach around 12 metal reinforcements, each has 8 metal clamps to hold them on. Breathable, super strong, can't roll it into a box though. This way is rare as it's a lot of hassle.

      • srhardy on 13/01/2021 - 13:44

        can you PM me contact info

  • jtc13 on 10/01/2021 - 17:55

    Can't speak for Koala or sleeping duck but I have bought two mattresses in a box from ALDI. One for my teenage daughter and one for my father. Both very very happy with them.

    • ihbh on 10/01/2021 - 22:34

      And when they're on clearance they can be ~$100 QB.

  • PaperplaneXXX on 10/01/2021 - 18:44

    ohhh the best ever decision to buy Sleeping duck King mattress in 2014. Medium fir,.
    Still very happy.

    Just bought a queen new Gen sleeping duck. also medium form for another bedroom. Feels a bit softer than the king i already have had since 2014

    • bejahi on 11/01/2021 - 12:58

      What year did you get the King?

  • dtc on 10/01/2021 - 20:24
    +1

    We have

    • ergoflex - I think it’s great, wife find it too soft. Not hot from my perspective. Really comfortable

    • zzz atelier. Very cheap if you buy on eBay with no return right. No edge support and fairly soft, really comfortable if you like it a bit softer but the soft edge takes a little bit of getting used to

    • moomilky on 10/01/2021 - 21:53

      +1 for Ergoflex. I've had mine for 3+ years and love it. I find it so comfortable, I just wanna lay in it for hours and don't want to get out.

  • therooftop on 10/01/2021 - 20:28

    I bought a koala, was too soft for me. I like It firm and didn’t support as much as I wanted. They offered a free mattress topper but I declined.

    They refunded it no problem but you gotta fold the mattress in half and wrap it and leave it outside in a pre booked time collection window. It was quite easy to fold the mattress in half which makes me doubt it’s durability.

    The Ikea mattress that’s $350 for a double (don’t remember what it’s called felt exactly the same as koala for less than half the price), I ended up getting a proper spring mattress and I don’t regret it.

  • Powderhound303 on 10/01/2021 - 21:39
    +1

    Had a SD queen for many years but was too soft and just threw it out. Quality is fine but didn’t like it as lower back hurt.

    I took a punt on Eva king mattress and love this mattress. Best ever and highly recommend it over SD. Slightly firmer but still soft enough for me. Much cheaper too.

    I’m a big heavy guy with wide ‘swimmers shoulders’ etc and prefer a soft mattress so hips and shoulders can sink in to bed.

    Wife conversely loves rock hard bed and also half my weight. She is also very happy with Eva.

    Go Eva bed

  • Powderhound303 on 10/01/2021 - 21:42

    Forgot to say I also have zzz atelier queen bed and it’s good but too soft and my back hurts using it.

  • ellajay on 10/01/2021 - 22:40

    Have had a king sized Koala for 5 years and love it. No noticeable dipping - flip it once every 6mo and my husband is around 85-90kg. He and I both suffered with lower back pain until we got the Koala and now sleep so much better. He turns a bit in the night and was waking me, in the Koala I don’t feel the movement so much and no longer wake.

    For the first couple of weeks we did notice the bed was hotter but now have completely adjusted (for this reason it wouldn’t be a great guest room bed). We haye having to sleep on spring mattresses now. Eventually we will replace our current mattress with another Koala I would say.

    Our son has a zzzAtelier we got on a deal once he turned 12 and he really likes it.

  • USER DC on 10/01/2021 - 23:24

    I find flat bed to be best
    Hence a big no no to Springs
    Foam, wool, cotton in mattress (best to be a thin one) is best for back. Hence flatter the bed better the back

  • fredk1000 on 11/01/2021 - 00:44

    They changed the ads, seems a bit serious now. The original ad is choice.

  • Victor111 on 11/01/2021 - 05:14

    Had my zzz for a year now was good at first. Now it is totally not in shape need a new one just about to try Emma

  • geekcohen on 11/01/2021 - 06:31

    I have a sleeping duck and it is great! Took a week or so for my wife to get used to it, but it is great! It is very high, so you need to take that into consideration. But otherwise, I would highly recommend a Sleeping Duck.

  • leiiv on 11/01/2021 - 08:27

    Do you also consider full latex mattresses in your search?

  • Nomad2233 on 11/01/2021 - 09:14

    I actually bought a sleeping duck and found it incredibly firm even though I ordered firm, it did nothing at all to help my back.

    Ended up getting a king koil from domayne for about $1200 - definetely happy I sent the sleeping duck back.

    Now I will forever be hesitant of buying a mattress in a box haha.

    • ufwpd on 07/11/2021 - 22:53

      Hey, are you still liking the King Koil you got? I'm looking at one from Domayne at the same price point so it may be the same one? Which one did you get?

  • freakatronic on 11/01/2021 - 09:46

    I have a sleeping duck.

    1. Do not get the "soft" foam. You'll get no support and sleep bowed. Even the firmer one is just barely firmer.

    2. The mattress is hot as hell. It stores and reflects body heat. I have never felt so uncomfortably hot sleeping as when I sleep on that damned mattress.

    Besides that, it's an affordable and relatively comfortable mattress

  • pformag on 11/01/2021 - 10:42

    My parents bought a sleeping duck. It's very bouncy and sucks you into the bed. They like it, but I prefer something that supports my body, rather than sinking in.

    Also, the sidewalls, when you sit, sink down, so if you sit on the side of the bed, you have no support.

  • cheapaschips on 11/01/2021 - 11:20
    +2

    Best advice I can give is below -

    1. Understand what your maximum budget is.
    2. Set aside a day for mattress shopping
    3. Don't get pulled into all the talk with the sales people(it will waste time)
    4. TRY each mattress within budget.
    5. If you find one you like. Buy it
    6. If you find none you like - order mattress in a box as it has a generous return policy.

    Reason to do all of the above is you never know what is out there if you just order the mattress in a box. You can't try it and compare and this is what they bank on, that you are somewhat satisfied and don't return. But it is your money so buy the best you can after trying it out in person.

    There is a reason most if not all mattress in a box companies don't have a partnership with bed retailers.. they could easily provide a sample and give a small commission for each sale. If the mattress was as good as they claim the sales would increase substantially…..yet they don't. So you can't compare.

  • denz02 on 11/01/2021 - 11:37
    +2

    Get a proper bed made in Australia not these Chinese crap. You can get awesome beds from Snooze or forty winks or any other retail store which will much more comfortable than these mattress in the box garbage. I have just before Christmas replaced my mattress after 14 years and replaced it with the local company that did the first one. Couldn’t be happier.

  • feelingroovy on 11/01/2021 - 11:44

    I can't speak for the revamped MACH II mattress that they recently brought out, however I have one of the original sleeping duck mattresses from early 2018.

    It is an amazing mattress, I do remember my body taking a few days to adjust but I'm very very happy with the purchase (for the price).
    The modularity of the mattress is great, you can choose a firmness (I think they have 4 options now) and if it isn't to your liking they can swap it out for you.

    Back then I think it only cost me ~$1,300 for a queen… they are a lot more expensive now.

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  • Bisah1342 on 11/01/2021 - 12:12
    +1

    I have a koala mattress and love it.

    Been a year and it’s still good - IMO it’s the best mattress in a box.
    Especially if you get it for cheap.

    Typing this on it actually lol

  • OzBargainer12345 on 11/01/2021 - 12:47
    +1

    The Mrs Researched and bought us a SD over lockdown, no complaints, worth the $ IMO

  • Plasma on 11/01/2021 - 14:57

    Anyone have a Bellissimo mattress?

    • dtc on 11/01/2021 - 16:36
      +1

      Yep. Have had one for maybe close to 10 years, queen sized. 2 adults, we are 80kg and 60kg or so; dont know if heavier or lighter people get different results. I

      It was absolutely rock hard for the first 4-5 weeks. We had to put a quilt down and sleep on the quilt (like a mattress topper - I didnt have a mattress topper). Was quite uncomfortable

      It then softened up and has been really comfortable for the last 10 years. It doesnt bounce at all/transfer motion, which was important as apparently one of us rolls a lot when he sleeps. I cant confirm whether that occurs as, well, I'm asleep.

      It does have body dips/there is a ridge in the middle of the bed on the side of the mattress we used most - probably used that side for 7 years of the 10. It doesn't affect anything really, I guess if you roll around or like sleeping in different positions sometimes then maybe it would be more of an issue. The other side has a slight ridge but barely noticeable. YMMV, seems like some people get very upset with the slightest dip in their mattress, but after a few years its going to happen regardless of what you buy

      Its pretty heavy but I (old male) am able to flip it on my own, so its not like its impossible to handle.

      Would I buy one again - maybe; but as this thread has shown there are now lots of other premium mattresses at much lower prices. $3k vs a miracoil at $1k?

  • OzMike on 11/01/2021 - 15:05

    We've gone from a top of the range Sealy to a SD. No way I would ever go back. Its taken a while to get the firmness sorted but the are good at sending out options and now it is spot on for both people.

  • NaRaSaRang on 11/01/2021 - 16:03

    I bought a SD mattress (queen size I think?) and the bed frame about 9 months ago. From memory, the total cost was between $2,000 and $2,100 (unlike the more expensive price tag right now). Anyway, I would say I'd rate it 7/10 and am happy with the purchase. It was not as firm as I thought despite choosing the firm option at the time of purchase. I would be happy if it lasts for another 2 to 3 years.

    At the end of the day, you generally get what you pay for haha

  • madseason on 11/01/2021 - 16:36

    I’ve got a king size sleeping duck bought about 8 months ago now. Super comfy and don’t regret it. Only trouble at the time was getting it up to the top level of the townhouse because it’s freakin heavy. After moving they had to squish it out the door and the top latex looked a bit warped but I just unzipped the top and fixed it straight up. I would recommend it highly, especially for not having your partner disturbing you. Don’t worry about the flashy words, try it out and just send it back if you don’t like it. Best of luck in your quest!

    • lknight on 12/01/2021 - 14:00

      thanks. their price has gone up significantly recently with no change in comfort so still decideing whether to shell out money and just get the SD

  • CalmLemons on 11/01/2021 - 16:52

    Maybe go into a mattress store and try one out before you buy it. Many stores have exchange policies now in the worst case. Nearly $2k your options are plentiful.

  • Nebos on 11/01/2021 - 17:11

    I have a duck and love it. Their customer service is amazing. Had an issue being too soft they swapped out the firmer foam free and I have never looked back 2 years in.

    I got their pillow and it was awful way to thin, service was amazing yet again. Refunded and returned.

  • rainbowvac on 11/01/2021 - 17:56

    I bought the zinus from Amazon.. freaking awesome wasn't willing to buy something so expensive unseen, and went this option and 12 months later so satisfied

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