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Alienware AW2521HFL 25" 240hz G-Sync IPS Gaming Monitor $359.20 (eBay Plus $350.22) Delivered @ Dell eBay

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Alienware AW2521HFL 25" 240hz G-Sync IPS Gaming Monitor $359.20 (eBay Plus $350.22) Delivered @ Dell eBay
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Alienware AW2521HFL 25" 240hz G-Sync Gaming Monitor $359.2 (eBay Plus $350.22) Delivered @ Dell eBay

Device Type
LED-backlit LCD monitor - 24.5"

Adaptive-Sync Technology
NVIDIA G-SYNC, AMD FreeSync Premium

Features
AlienFX lighting system, USB 3.0 hub

Panel Type
IPS

Aspect Ratio
16:9

Native Resolution
Full HD (1080p) 1920 x 1080 at 240 Hz

Brightness
400 cd/m²

Contrast Ratio
1000:1

Response Time
1 ms (grey-to-grey)

Colour Support
16.8 million colours

Input Connectors
2xHDMI, DisplayPort

Display Position Adjustments
Height, pivot (rotation), swivel, tilt

Screen Coating
Anti-glare 3H hardness

Colour
Lunar light

Image Colour Disclaimer
The displayed product image may be a different colour

Dimensions (WxDxH) - with stand
55.629 cm x 25.192 cm x 42.121 cm

Compliant Standards
DisplayPort 1.2

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  • High on 01/03/2021 - 12:58

    FHD for those who are wondering :)

    • zjz93 on 01/03/2021 - 14:02
      +6

      25' fhd is perfectly fine

  • Justin Powell on 01/03/2021 - 13:19
    +4

    Monitor prices are getting so good.

    • PeeDee on 01/03/2021 - 16:56

      Can you explain more? I'm new to this.

      • giventofly on 01/03/2021 - 18:20
        +1

        I am no expert, but there are a lot of gaming monitors - gaming is gaining traction, especially PC gaming and manufacturers are releasing models regularly to cash in.

        With more competition comes cheaper prices as panels and tech are shared amongst OEMs thus lowering manufacturing costs.

  • Jenny Death on 01/03/2021 - 13:22
    +2

    Damn, i remember paying $700 or so for my benq tn 240hz panel only a few years ago.

    • bigbooney on 01/03/2021 - 20:23

      same. I kinda regret it now

  • ln28909 on 01/03/2021 - 13:24
    +1

    anyone made the switch from 144hz to 240hz and notice a difference, i'm very tempted, mainly play cs

    • Jenny Death on 01/03/2021 - 13:25
      +1

      I noticed the difference in cs, but id be looking more into 360hz monitors these days if youre only playing cs. Havent used one but the jump would be more significant.

      • ln28909 on 01/03/2021 - 13:33
        +1

        yeah okay thanks, was just curious to see what it's like to play at higher refresh, don't think I'll be putting over $1k to get the 360hz one for now

    • botchie on 01/03/2021 - 13:49

      I went from 144 to 240 and not really, don't play cs but do rainbow 6 and rocket league
      If you only upgrading for extra frames I dont think its worth the $$ but….up to you

      • ln28909 on 01/03/2021 - 13:55

        I bought it, will give it a go, it's cheap enough that I probably won't make too much of a loss if i decide to sell it later on

    • jasswolf on 01/03/2021 - 14:07

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/10151750/redir

      If you're going from TN (or even decent IPS), this isn't it. Samsung G7 VA, a 240Hz TN.

      If you can't stand either alternative technology, this is affordable and will reduce your input lag, but it's important to understand it does have motion blur issues that were not being captured in previous testing methods.

      • botchie on 01/03/2021 - 14:23
        -6

        what most of these reviews talk about is nonsense
        motion blur, latency, lag - its not measurable for 99.9% of ppl
        your internet connection will be more of an issue then anything from monitor point of view

        you cant really compare g7 to 24 inch 1080 monitor

        • jasswolf on 01/03/2021 - 14:32

          100% wrong, watch the video I linked.

          • botchie on 01/03/2021 - 14:55
            +1

            @jasswolf: i don't have to
            I had 144hz tn panel
            165 hz 27 inch ips panel
            and now g7 32 inch 240 va

            NO input advantage or anything tangible in e sports game I can say has given me an edge on the opponent
            if I play a game with any of these monitors as long as they are 144hz it wont make me any better
            sure better quality panels give you nicer colours, more clarity and all but this crap you are going on about input lag is 99% non applicable and its there to sell monitors and kids to feel better at buying expansive toys
            you can neg and complain all you want but if I put you in front of few panels you wont know which is which and you wont be better at the game - guaranteed

            • jasswolf on 01/03/2021 - 15:38
              -1

              @botchie: You're not going to be able to sense an input latency advantage of a few milliseconds, but there will be a statistical advantage to you.

              Motion resolution absolutely makes a difference, this is so beyond discussion at this point, and something you can visually see just moving your mouse cursor, let alone playing a game. This goes double when you're comparing with most VA and IPS panels.

              If you don't have the eyes for it, see a doctor.

            • cille745 on 01/03/2021 - 19:35

              @botchie: Agreed man, see a doctor, I'm not talking about having a definite competitive advantage, but the difference in response times is definitely noticeable.

              I have a PG279Q, a PG349Q, Odyssey G9 and a X27 and there's a noticeable difference between all of them and I can rank them from best to worst easily

              • botchie on 01/03/2021 - 22:30

                @cille745: LOL, you are saying your eyes can see difference between 1 ms and 4 ms response time
                yeah ok
                maybe you are a pro gamer - I said 99% cant

                edit
                you listed 3 monitors that are IPS - there is actually no way you can tell a difference between them as there is none -
                if you had a TN panel vs IPS - maybe…….

  • ozvictor on 01/03/2021 - 13:24

    Good price if you only do 1080p gaming

  • jasswolf on 01/03/2021 - 13:44

    RTings review: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw2521…

    What that review doesn't cover is how IPS behaves in terms of transitioning back to black, which you can see in the motion capture image: https://i.rtings.com/images/reviews/monitor/dell/alienware-a…

    There's a slight powdery trail to everything, and it'll be especially noticeable in dark and high contrast content. If you're buying this primarily to get smooth 240 FPS content in something like Overwatch or Fortnite, you might run into some trouble if you're upgrading from a good quality 144Hz. Hardware Unboxed has a good video to explain this in layman's terms, and why basically every current review process sucks for capturing the issues with IPS, though that will soon change.

    But for budget 240Hz, this is certainly better than what little else tends to be in the price range (Samsung VA, Innolux TN), and you're not going to do much better with any other 240Hz IPS monitor. There are decent 1080p 144Hz TN monitors available for $170-$200, so if gaming is the primary use, consider those for a similar overall performance in terms of motion resolution (though not system latency due to the refresh rate).

    Because of how hard the AU gaming bubble has chanted for fast IPS, we now have a stunning dearth of affordable TN monitors as well as a lack of volume orders of the Samsung G7, so kudos to everyone involved for destroying the monitor market twice over.

  • mrtee on 01/03/2021 - 14:27
    -1

    Is this a TN Panel?

    • jasswolf on 01/03/2021 - 14:41
      +2

      Nope, IPS.

  • BROKENKEYBOARD on 01/03/2021 - 14:50

    There's a slight powdery trail to everything, and it'll be especially noticeable in dark and high contrast content.

    You mean when looking at still images or in real world usage? Most of these reviews require the use of still images or high fps cameras slowed down which will greatly exacerbate these issues. This is like comparing a CPU at 4900Mhz vs 4950Mhz. In a benchmark it'll be obvious but in real world usage it shouldn't be.

    Because of how hard the AU gaming bubble has chanted for fast IPS, we now have a stunning dearth of affordable TN monitors as well as a lack of volume orders of the Samsung G7, so kudos to everyone involved for destroying the monitor market twice over.

    This is nonsensical. The "AU gaming bubble" is a speck in the global market and did not "destroy the monitor market" in any sense. TN panels are plentiful for small 1080p screens but not for larger higher resolution screens because of technology limitations. Similarly why you'll have a hard time trying to find a TN TV.

    • jasswolf on 01/03/2021 - 15:47

      You mean when looking at still images or in real world usage? Most of these reviews require the use of still images or high fps cameras slowed down which will greatly exacerbate these issues. This is like comparing a CPU at 4900Mhz vs 4950Mhz. In a benchmark it'll be obvious but in real world usage it shouldn't be.

      You kinda need motion for a trail. Watch the video to see how IPS creates issues.

      This is nonsensical. The "AU gaming bubble" is a speck in the global market and did not "destroy the monitor market" in any sense. TN panels are plentiful for small 1080p screens but not for larger higher resolution screens because of technology limitations. Similarly why you'll have a hard time trying to find a TN TV.

      1. Explain how AU sentiment and demand does not impact AU supplier purchasing orders.

      2. At no point was I complaining about the resolution, merely that if you go looking for TN 240Hz monitors right now, you'll only get results for $550 and over which reflects limited stock.

      3. There are no limitations with making larger TN panels, merely demand when balanced against typical high refresh rate users and upcoming OLED developments. There are 4K TN monitors (up to 120Hz, or at least there were), there are 1440p TN monitors (up to 240Hz), there's even been TN televisions in the past. The biggest concern would be vertical gamma shift if you're at a normal seated distance from your PC monitor and pushing past say 32" panel sizes.

      • BROKENKEYBOARD on 01/03/2021 - 18:18

        You kinda need motion for a trail. Watch the video to see how IPS creates issues.

        Watch the video yourself and see the examples that they use. A still image and a 30fps video of what looks to be a VA monitor from 2018. These should not be representative of real world usage of an AW2521HFL.

        Explain how AU sentiment and demand does not impact AU supplier purchasing orders.

        I never said it didn't. The nonsensical part is you implying that 1: Australians have a different opinion on monitors compared to other countries and 2: You know the volume of monitors being sold in Australia vs other countries.

        At no point was I complaining about the resolution, merely that if you go looking for TN 240Hz monitors right now, you'll only get results for $550 and over which reflects limited stock.

        Coincidentally looking at US pcpartpicker it's a very similar look except for the singular TN 240Hz at $260US.

        There are no limitations with making larger TN panels

        The limitation isn't about making them but how they perform.

        • jasswolf on 01/03/2021 - 19:23

          Watch the video yourself and see the examples that they use. A still image and a 30fps video of what looks to be a VA monitor from 2018. These should not be representative of real world usage of an AW2521HFL.

          Look at the response time tables and the results charts…

          I never said it didn't. The nonsensical part is you implying that 1: Australians have a different opinion on monitors compared to other countries and 2: You know the volume of monitors being sold in Australia vs other countries.

          They do, because where there's opportunity through logistics and sheer numbers for minority viewpoints and markets to be served in most other regions, we're more like a hybrid of a 1st and 3rd world country in that respect: we have just enough wealth to get good value so long as we restrict our choices. Those restrictions seem to be doing away with TN almost entirely, and not investing in good 240Hz VA because 90% of consumers don't understand a thing about it.

          Coincidentally looking at US pcpartpicker it's a very similar look except for the singular TN 240Hz at $260US.

          That's a horrific source, but still points to sub-$400 AUD TN options.

          The limitation isn't about making them but how they perform.

          There are zero issues with pushing out 4K TN, there's just a total lack of interest in it until 120Hz+ options are affordable, and by that stage you're looking at IPS, VA, OLED and maybe QNED being able to drive that more than sufficiently (and energy efficiently). Remember that this entire sector is built around providing options for televisions and professional monitors, because that fuels the R&D and is the high margin gear.

          Everything else flows from that.

          • BROKENKEYBOARD on 01/03/2021 - 21:20

            @jasswolf:

            Look at the response time tables and the results charts…

            Charts that came from comparing frame by frame, ms by ms. Their newest review on another 240Hz IPS monitor was also very positive despite their new testing methods, maybe you are overstating things?

            They do, because where there's opportunity through logistics and sheer numbers for minority viewpoints and markets to be served in most other regions, we're more like a hybrid of a 1st and 3rd world country in that respect: we have just enough wealth to get good value so long as we restrict our choices. Those restrictions seem to be doing away with TN almost entirely

            If you can just link your sources on the volume of monitors being sold in Australia vs other countries that'll be great. Otherwise this is just your opinion and not based on any facts. For all you know they're just selling out fast. Lots of GPUs are sold out all the time, does that mean they're doing away with GPUs?

            and not investing in good 240Hz VA because 90% of consumers don't understand a thing about it.

            This is because they are expensive or non existent. This monitor is $360. Do you know of an equivalent 240Hz VA monitor in this price range? The only good 240Hz VA monitors are the G7s which are too expensive for more than 90% of consumers.

            • jasswolf on 01/03/2021 - 22:51

              @BROKENKEYBOARD:

              Charts that came from comparing frame by frame, ms by ms. Their newest review on another 240Hz IPS monitor was also very positive despite their new testing methods, maybe you are overstating things?

              Measurements that literally sit outside the refresh timing - sometimes by a factor greater than 2 - so you will see motion blur. Go look at the same measurement charts on the 1440p 240Hz monitor, they weren't great either, because the technology has a flaw with returning to zero (i.e. closing off the backlight pouring through).

              VA can be tuned readily to mask its issues, while IPS less so, and it severely impacts its lifespan. IPS was designed for colour consistency, but the same solve hurts its motion resolution potential.

              If you can just link your sources on the volume of monitors being sold in Australia vs other countries that'll be great. Otherwise this is just your opinion and not based on any facts. For all you know they're just selling out fast. Lots of GPUs are sold out all the time, does that mean they're doing away with GPUs?

              Two of the better affordable 240Hz TN monitors in every other region of the world were never shipped here. No explanation was ever given as to why, so you have to presume it's an issue of demand to make the minimum orders.

              This is because they are expensive or non existent. This monitor is $360. Do you know of an equivalent 240Hz VA monitor in this price range? The only good 240Hz VA monitors are the G7s which are too expensive for more than 90% of consumers.

              Right now you can get the Samsung G7 shipped from the USA via Prime for almost 10% less than it's sold here for. That's how ridiculously low the order volumes must be, not to mention every other region has had that monitor on sale for around AUD $700-$730, which is affordable for the product class when you consider what most people were happy to pay for 1440p 144Hz monitors less than a year ago.

              Even now, you can get your much vaunted Dell 1440p 240Hz monitor for about $870, which holds a higher MSRP and sale price than the G7 in every other major region.

              How much more circumstantial evidence do you need that AU retailers perpetuate reddit-grade groupthink? People go on about the Australia tax, but in truth the real issue is the dinosaurs and the dumbasses managing to control tech logistics in this country, and how and when they order. It's abysmal.

              • BROKENKEYBOARD on 02/03/2021 - 13:22

                @jasswolf:

                Go look at the same measurement charts on the 1440p 240Hz monitor, they weren't great either, because the technology has a flaw with returning to zero

                You're obsessing a little hard over things that are only obvious when you're comparing still frames. I'm wondering do you have or had an IPS monitor that has a slow response time that might have given you an impression that all IPS monitors are bad?

                How much more circumstantial evidence do you need that AU retailers perpetuate reddit-grade groupthink?

                You're yet to provide any hard evidence, just a bunch of what ifs that don't sound likely at all. Two monitors not being launched here? A monitor that went on sale in another country but not here? These things don't infer a conspiracy against non IPS monitors in Australia, nor say anything about the volumes of monitors sold, nor does it constitute to the monitor market being destroyed.

                • jasswolf on 02/03/2021 - 13:26
                  -3

                  @BROKENKEYBOARD: Incredibly I do not have live market data on AU retail. IPS motion blur can be seen by the naked eye, and the manner in which it presents is discussed in the video.

                  You've shifted the goal posts constantly here, and each time I've underscored the issue you've scurried off to positions that you feel can't be examined closely.

                  Good luck with your echo chamber of nonsense!

                  • BROKENKEYBOARD on 03/03/2021 - 15:06
                    -1

                    @jasswolf: Goal posts haven't changed, I just don't understand how you're so adamant about how an "AU gaming bubble" is "destroying the monitor market twice over" without evidence. It's not like demand over the past year has skyrocketed depleting stocks from not only Australia but the whole world. It's not like there's a possibility that Harvey Norman, JB and Bing Lee hogged all the launch stock of the G7 because they literally have hundreds of stores to cater for. It's not like motion blur can affect any panel type it's only affects IPS.

                    Good luck with your echo chamber of nonsense!

                    I'm not the one flouting far fetched theories :)

                    • jasswolf on 03/03/2021 - 15:08

                      @BROKENKEYBOARD: There literally has been no deals on the G7, when every other region has it. How are you not getting this?

                      Your ego is super out of control, cheers for informing me!

                      • BROKENKEYBOARD on 03/03/2021 - 16:03
                        -1

                        @jasswolf: I still don't understand how having a deal would prove anything. Secondly why someone would be following every other region is beyond me not to mention ridiculous because of language barriers. Thirdly there was actually an offer in Australia to redeem a bonus headset through Samsung.

  • mrtee on 01/03/2021 - 14:50

    Do you have to use a DVI cable for 240hz, also, would a HDMI to DVI converter work?

    • Jenny Death on 01/03/2021 - 14:54

      Do you mean displayport?

      • mrtee on 01/03/2021 - 14:55

        Yeah. Like can I use a normal HDMI cable with a converter to plug into the display port at the back of my monitor? HDMI to GPU, display port to monitor.

        Would that give me the highest refresh rate? Or do I need DVI to DVI connection?

        • jasswolf on 01/03/2021 - 15:55
          +1

          Without chroma subsampling, HDMI 2.0 and up is fine for this monitor, but you won't have access to adaptive sync unless you're using an AMD GPU unless Dell opts to backport HDMI VRR to this monitor.

          If it were a 10-bit colour monitor, that would require HDMI 2.1, or a HBR2 or higher DisplayPort cable.

          EDIT: so that we're all on the same page, HDMI, DisplayPort and DVI are all different types of display connectors. If you're using a DVI out from your GPU, it likely only supports up to 120Hz and only via dual DVI, which this monitor doesn't support anyway.

          • Juggernauto on 01/03/2021 - 18:18

            @jasswolf: I used to plug my old 970 through DVI and had 144Hz no problem, I'm pretty sure it is not limited to 120Hz

            • jasswolf on 01/03/2021 - 19:09

              @Juggernauto: That may have been outside the spec, or through modified timings (overclocking). 240Hz is not possible AFAIK.

  • mrtee on 01/03/2021 - 14:53

    This or the S2721DGF for playing warzone with an rtx3070

  • Lionchu on 01/03/2021 - 15:26

    Gaming monitors are getting pretty cheap!

  • superuser on 01/03/2021 - 15:32
    +1

    damn, i bought a second hand dell aw2521hf for $450 :((((

  • Ventak on 01/03/2021 - 15:46
    +1

    I had wanted it to be around this price late last year, but it didn't occur, and ended up going with the BenQ EX2510 instead (that one's also on sale again now at $299, albeit it is 144hz). Still, a great price.

  • jimbobaus on 01/03/2021 - 15:54
    -2

    I just sent the 27 inch version of this back to dell.
    Absolute rubbish monitor.

    • Jenny Death on 01/03/2021 - 15:56
      +1

      Because?

      • jimbobaus on 02/03/2021 - 08:30

        Quality is trash.
        The screen is IPS and i have 2 other IPS displays and the quality is not there.
        The screen brightens is way to high and for a 1080p display its no where near as sharp as should be.

        I just found it to be over priced for what its advertised as so i returned it.
        Dell upgraded me to a far better display (also 27 inch) at not cost thankfully and its a much nicer screen (AW2721D)

        • Jenny Death on 02/03/2021 - 10:59

          I mean 27 inch 1080 is never going to be sharp, was it actually blurrier than other 27 inch displays? Theres an easy fix to monitors being too bright.

          • jimbobaus on 02/03/2021 - 11:16

            @Jenny Death: i am certainly able to adjust brightness but even at its lowest setting it was way to bright (for an IPS)

            there is blurry and there is this monitor blurry hecne why i returned it.

            much happier with the 1440 upgraded model they sent me thats for sure

    • aamer hamid on 01/03/2021 - 16:43

      Your one is faulty most likely mine is great same with all my mates

      • jimbobaus on 02/03/2021 - 08:30

        What faults did they have?

  • Dearest77 on 01/03/2021 - 18:07

    25 inch is perfect to fit my table. bought one

  • Hornpub on 01/03/2021 - 21:11

    this kinda spec can easily marketed at 800$+ few years back. i guess the trend starts to move toward 1440p now.

    that left all the FHD high Hz monitor goodness to us. yeah !!!!

  • Diji1 on 02/03/2021 - 10:06

    At the moment only Asus has backlight strobing with no brightness loss (they market this feature as ELMB).

    This is an amazing advance on every other monitor ATM.

    • Hornpub on 06/03/2021 - 13:16

      You have the model bomber for that one ?

  • KhmerStory on 02/03/2021 - 13:50
    +2

    Hey guys I have this monitor and for this price it's a steal. Do note that for 1ms it needs to be on extreme setting which can introduce tearing.
    Upgraded from 144hz, 1440p for Warzone and Valorant, and as someone who can notice these differences the gain isn't a considerable one.
    Games do look buttery smooth if you have a decent graphics card and enable gsync and reflex but if you are thinking about upgrading have a look into 360hz and 8k polling mice. Apparently it starts to jitter at around 240hz with 1000 polling.
    Great monitor though, beautiful design.

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