Samsung has just dropped the Galaxy Z Fold2 price down to $1,999.20 for Education (just last week the Education store was $2,5xx from memory when I was browsing).
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Also available for $1,999.20 at some Samsung EPP stores.
I was about to comment the same thing - targeting the education sector!
Yeah that always bothers me with these sorta things….
Not all students and teachers have to eat ramen every week. It's OK for people to want to treat themselves sometimes.
you'd rather the phone wasn't an option in the Education store? let people have choices
I am all for options. Commenting due to envy :(
Yeah these deals always make me think that, how would a uni student afford a $2k phone. But i guess there are rich people, allowances, exotic dancing etc.
I guess I'm just jealous
$1999 Phone, $4 pints at the uni bar #priorities
I feel that the closed up screen is too small and wide, and the opened up screen is not wide enough. I don't want a square tablet. Neither screen is ideal for watching a movie.
The resolution of the screens is also disappointing. I think it's a lower resolution than a standard QHD+ screen.
When they can get a pixel density to match modern phones, and add a bit more width (in the shorter axis, making the aspect ratio less wide in landscape mode) it will be useable. Would also be nice if they could invent glass for foldables.
I don't want a square tablet. Neither screen is ideal for watching a movie.
I don't want a 16:9 tablet. I don't watch movies on tiny screens. :)
When they can get a pixel density to match modern phones, and add a bit more width (in the shorter axis, making the aspect ratio less wide in landscape mode) it will be useable.
I think the 362ppi pixel density of the Fold 2 is fine. The Galaxy S21 Plus is only slightly higher at 394ppi. Unless you're constantly pixel-peeping your phone, there isn't a major benefit to ~450ppi over 362ppi. Your battery will drain more quickly with higher resolutions too.
I don't want a 16:9 tablet. I don't watch movies on tiny screens. :)
One, it wouldn't be tiny. Two, 4:3 programming ended in the 1990s. This is actually 5:4, which is narrower than even 4:3.
What would be a good ratio? The truth is, at best one ratio will be useful and the other will suck. That's just how it's designed. But that's still better than both ratios sucking. If the small screen is 16:9, I'm ok with the tablet being square. I'd just watch things on the smaller screen, which should ideally be the same ppi as the larger screen.
I think the 362ppi pixel density of the Fold 2 is fine.
For a budget product, yes. For a $2999 RRP flagship product, no. The $300 Galaxy A series can do your 362 ppi. I'm paying a massive premium for two subpar screens, neither of which is the ideal aspect ratio for doing phone things.
The Galaxy S21 Plus is only slightly higher at 394ppi.
The S21+ is also half its price. The Ultra on the other hand is 515ppi.
Unless you're constantly pixel-peeping your phone, there isn't a major benefit to ~450ppi over 362ppi. Your battery will drain more quickly with higher resolutions too.
I just think that if you buy a $3k phone, you should have standards. If it was a $1k phone, fair enough. You don't even have enough pixels to watch things at their full resolution unless it's 1080p. You can't even watch QHD video at native resolution because there's not enough width. So you're on this big screen, and you have to play youtube videos at no higher than 1080p. YOu won't see any options above that.
Unless you're constantly pixel-peeping your phone, there isn't a major benefit to ~450ppi over 362ppi.
How about 515 ppi? My 2 year old S10+ is 522 ppi, 4 year old S8 is 570 ppi, and 6 year old S6 is 577 ppi. That's a big step downwards for a big jump up in price.
One, it wouldn't be tiny.
For watching movies, I would consider a 7.6" pocketable device "tiny".
My point was that they can't design a device that will cater to everybody's wants. People who spend lots of time commuting on a train or plane might spend lots of time watching movies on a small handheld device, while people who don't probably couldn't imagine staring at a small screen for 2 hours watching a movie. Those people might use a Fold 2 for work instead, responding to emails, viewing or editing documents, etc where a 16:9 screen isn't ideal.
For a budget product, yes. For a $2999 RRP flagship product, no.
If you were buying a screen, then that would make sense. But you're buying a phone/tablet. 500ppi vs 362ppi is inconsequential in actual day-to-day use, having such high PPI on a small screen is really more for bragging rights
than actual tangible benefits.
It happens with other things too. Teslas are known for having QC issues with paint and panel gaps, yet demand outstrips supply. It's because people see a Tesla as more than just a good paint job or perfect panels. There are more pros than cons so they're happy to put up with it.
The S21+ is also half its price.
You specifically said "When they can get a pixel density to match modern phones". I gave an example of a modern phone.
It doesn't fold, so of course it's cheaper. People aren't complaining about blurry or jagged text with the S21+, so evidently the lower PPI isn't a big deal.
The Ultra on the other hand is 515ppi.
Samsung ships it set to FHD+ by default, which means it's running at 387ppi. Even Samsung realises that there isn't much benefit to running at 514ppi apart from bragging rights.
I just think that if you buy a $3k phone, you should have standards.
That's fair enough. I can understand why you expect top-end everything for $3k ($1999 now), but I look at it more as a whole package rather than individual specs.
I don't give much weight to specs that don't give tangible benefits, which is why I didn't really care that the S21 shipped with an FHD+ screen when the S20 had a QHD screen, which I ran at FHD+/120Hz anyway.
You don't even have enough pixels to watch things at their full resolution unless it's 1080p. You can't even watch QHD video at native resolution because there's not enough width.
I'd be interested to see how many people would actually notice the difference between FHD and 3K on a phone or tablet screen, when they're not told to look for any differences.
@eug: FHD on AMOLED is not the same as FHD due to the pixel structure. It's the sole reason Samsung went with QHD to begin with 5 years ago.
FHD on AMOLED is not the same as FHD due to the pixel structure.
All the phones described above are pentile AMOLED and roughly the same generation, so they're comparable to each other.
RGB stripe subpixel rendering was a big deal until Samsung switched to their diamond pentile matrix in the Galaxy S5 (the S4 was also diamond pentile but the green pixel was oval instead of diamond). That's why nobody talks about pentile subpixel rendering any more nowadays - it simply isn't an issue now.
do you need a valid edu email if you left uni 3 years ago will it still work?
is there any work around?
my edu email still works and i left uni last year – worth a shot
also see if you have an alumni email address
Thanks OP. Bought 5..
Why can't I see the deal. I have logged in and it give a price of 2500
To enter the education store, type in edu store on google, then pres the first link, then in the link scroll down until u see a black thing saying entering edu store
Would this be Samsung's version of the Apple Stand?
I was all gee'd up to buy this phone, but when I had a look in person the aspect ratio of the opened screen really got to me. I tried watching videos on YouTube and I was just met with a huge amount of black screen with a usable video display identical to my note20.
I mean, there's a good change I have no idea what I'm doing, but to me it just didn't quite do the job right as a tablet or a phone - I'm super excited for where the tech can go, but think it's just not there yet.
I mean, if all you'll be doing on it is watching videos, sure.
Yeah not all, but it was a large part of what I wanted the tablet functionality for - just didn't suit my needs.
Fair enough – for me, watching videos is maybe about 20% of what I do; for general app usage, it excels.
Honestly the better use case is to split the screen in half and put Youtube on one half and browsing on the other… that's what I use my Fold2 for. Unless you're watching old TV shows in 4:3 (thank you Married with Children and old old Top Gear!) then you'll have huge black bars.
Foldables make no sense and the manufacturers know it by including an external screen for the vanilla phone experience, it's almost an admittance of application failure. So then you basically end up carrying a 2cm thick phone that you'll just simply use as a phone.
We'll wait and see on the rollable phone front where the screen expands rather than requiring you to switch screens. This makes more sense to me.
But ultimately for as long as they are all based on plastic screens they will continue to be ignored.
Hi, would someone be able to post a screenshot of the price of the phone in bronze colour on the samsung edu store website please? Thanks in advance.
I dont suppose you could screenshot the black for me as well?
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I like the idea of these phones. Keen to see if the 3 is perfect as I want one that isn't a brick in my pocket.
Can you get education pricing ar a Samsung store?
Is there any trick to get edu email?
I found my alumni email with an EDU in it still works.
Had a z fold 2 and just couldn't leave the note and stuck with my note 10 +
can you get this edu price in a samsung store?
Has anyone had any success getting JB/GG/HN to price match the edu store? I dont have an edu email but could get a screen shot to show pricing or use a friends email or something.
Damn this is such a good deal! Guess we're getting closer to Fold 3 being announced.
Just realised $1,999.20 is also available at the EPP store for my employer so I assume it's probably available at (some) others too.
you also get a free Wireless Charger Trio worth $150 does everyone else get this to?
finally managed to get my alumni email to work, so uni was worth lol?
I believe that's automatically added to Galaxy S21/S21+/S21+ Ultra orders on Edu and EPP based on my experimenting for the S21 deal.
I went into JB hifi today and asked if they would price match. The guy disappeared and came back with the best they can do is $2231 which is apparently staff pricing.
Still debating about getting it from there because then I have a physical place I can take it back to if anything goes wrong.
You can also buy it directly from Samsung physical store and show student card to receive discount.
just received the phone, it feels alot more compact than I thought it would be looking at comments online, easily fits in the pocket and once open it feels so much bigger than my iphone max. The free charger is also quite bigger than I thought.
anyone still on the fence I suggest get it, also I know the phone still cost $1900 but damn $1000 off lol that's like a iPhone mini.
it's on trade-in promotion with Bonus $750 off at the moment. Can easily bring down the price tag below $1600
Education prices - so uni students /teachers need a 2k phone. great channel marketing