How to Stop Neighbours from Smoking?

LBacons on 28/03/2021 - 02:40
Last edited 28/03/2021 - 10:42 by 1 other user

It's 1AM and we have this eshay neighbour who is smoking in their backyard and the smoke drift is insane and it fills the room. They are underaged too. I have tried closing my window ASAP as soon as I smell it but usually by the time it has reached my nose there is already a lot in the room.

My current plan is to have a talk with them during the day and escalate legally if things don't work out. I had previously made the mistake of telling them to stop smoking (during the night via talking through the window) but my pea brain neglected to explain that it was getting into our rooms and as you would expect, got told to (profanity) off and mind my own business (the next day I heard them audibly discussing my name and threatened to "put me in a hospital").

I've been trying to think of ways to resolve this in a way that does not worsen things (they are always littering on our front lawn and even dropped a bunch of sequins one time) but I but don't know how to deal with these eshays who are often in trouble with the cops and are what I would consider unpredictable.

Any ideas?

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Comments

    • Bacons on 29/03/2021 - 14:09

      Delusional

      You've got it backwards. They are threatening my health on two accounts 1 by subjecting me and others to toxins, 2 by threatening to beat me up, and yet I'm somehow wrong for trying to get the law to help me and you say "no wonder they threatened to knock you out."?

      • DiscoJango on 29/03/2021 - 15:41
        1. Smoking is a legal activity.
        2. They are on their own private land.
        3. End of story.

        Its like the neighbors saying they dont like the smell of your cooking, and that they will threaten you with legal action if you keep cooking. How would you take that news?

        Delusional is what you are my good friend.

        • T1OOO on 30/03/2021 - 16:45
          -1

          Laws around level of toxins rather than preference of food.

  • richmond12 on 29/03/2021 - 11:50

    Just close the window

  • nimnomnimy on 29/03/2021 - 12:08

    build taller fence and get screening plants? no idea if it will help.
    could try turning on sprinkler pointed over fence ?

  • pformag on 29/03/2021 - 12:57

    Racoon spray + fan aim at their backyard.

  • IncidentalCase on 29/03/2021 - 13:52
    +1

    Good luck, don't make a fuss when selling your home as well; otherwise during a open house they will start smoking and your house will lose value.

    I've also had some run of bad luck living next to someone with asbestosis, but once you know that it is unavoidable to hear them coughing in the middle of the night or during the morning at 5AM. You just learn to live with it.

    I had to get double glazed windows.

  • lltravel on 29/03/2021 - 14:03

    so they are smoking on their property and you're upset?

    Close your window, get a fan or ac

    Problem solved

    This is just like the drama that unfolded when a billionaire recently bought a crap load of land and people wanted to know what he was going to build on it.

    Like hello? Its his land, he can do whatever he wants.

    I hate smoking as much as anyone else but nothing you can really do. They will eventually die of cancer so give it time

    • Bacons on 29/03/2021 - 14:20
      +1

      Its his land, he can do whatever he wants.

      I'm sure I don't need to tell you why this isn't the case.

      I'm not sure why people are so keen on being self righteous and preachy about freedom and "rights" one moment and forget about all rules and regulations the next.

      so they are smoking on their property and you're upset?

      When a neighbour's tree encroaches past your fence you have the the ability to cut it off as you have a right to your own property correct? I am perfectly fine if they smoked in a way that does not bother others.

      I hate smoking as much as anyone else but nothing you can really do

      This is what I've learned from this thread. There's little if not nothing that I can legally do about it.

      • studentl0an on 29/03/2021 - 14:39
        +2

        You know in the tree example you just wrote you're the one who has to take the action, and it's at your cost, not the neighbor, to trim it despite originating in the neighbors yard. So I don't know why you used it here as that example is the opposite of what I think you tried to convey.

        I can understand it's not ideal but it's part of living around people that you will smell things you don't like to smell.

        For instance vegans have no right to make others not BBQ outdoors because they don't like the smell of BBQing meat, regardless if it causes them distress or nausea.

        • Bacons on 29/03/2021 - 15:24
          +2

          Oh true! Yea, not the best analogy…

          What about noise as a more accurate example then?

          • studentl0an on 29/03/2021 - 15:34

            @Bacons: I'm sure you've experienced times when people are using power tools at an earlier time than you wanted to wake up, but within the reasonable/legal time(s) that it's allowed.

            Now smoking isn't noise and there's not allocated time slots where it's considered reasonable to smoke, thankfully we don't have that much control of government over our lives. So a better example is the one I already used with smell.

            Take your username for instance, Bacons. If you liked cooking bacon but you had a neighbor move next door who for a religious or diet reason found the smell of bacon to be detrimental to their health then what they feel doesn't matter at all. They can't force you to not cook bacon, as you are legally allowed to do so on your property and you don't control the wind - so you can't control if the smell wafts over their property.

            • Bacons on 29/03/2021 - 17:50
              +2

              @studentl0an: Fair and good points. I agree. Doesn't seem like I can do much besides close my window

            • inasero on 07/04/2021 - 12:35

              @studentl0an: Exactly - remember this vegan Karen who complained and took her neighbours to court because they were cooking meat and the smell wafted over her property? Well there's nothing much she or you can do unfortunately in this predicament

  • spedohero on 29/03/2021 - 14:19
    +2

    Always do a profiling on your neighbour before deciding your course of actions. If they have nothing to lose then forget about confront them. If they have everything to lose then confront them nicely at first, and if it still does not work then go to council.

  • Love a bargain on 29/03/2021 - 14:38

    Don't have any practical suggestion but I'd suggest that you notify the police about the threats just in case they do cause you (or your house) any harm.

  • Tuftsdude on 29/03/2021 - 14:46

    For anyone who wants to quit, get their family or friends to quit cigarettes - check out Relx vape products. I've seen the heaviest smokers (1-2 packs a day) quit within a day or two.

  • Blitz001 on 29/03/2021 - 14:50
    +1

    Just start smoking yourself, the harm it causes is probably less than the harm of the stress the situation is causing you.

  • newjerseydamo on 29/03/2021 - 14:58
    +4

    As much as being an "eshay" (why society feels like creating new random words to describe things is beyond me, but that's another discussion entirely), I find several problems with the OP's approach.

    1) How the OP initially handled the situation - not mature at all, and yelling from their own yard.
    2) The fact that a person smoking in their own property, yet the OP expects the neighbour to account for ever changing weather so the smoke doesn't "bother" them.
    3) The OP refuses to do anything from their side of the fence and expects the neighbour to change their behaviour.

    If the OP's bedroom is in such a state that it needs constant fresh air, then there's something wrong.
    Also, the OP can have the house/bedroom open throughout the day, then just close up the house/bedroom at night. If the OP can't survive the night with the bedroom closed after doing this, then again, there's something wrong.

    The easiest way to fix the problem is for the OP to adjust their behaviour to account for the smoke.
    Or, burn a crap load of incense and get industrial fans to blow it over to their smoking neighbour.

    Jokes aside, the OP will lose unless they change the way they do things, rather than arguing with an immature teenager.

    • Bacons on 29/03/2021 - 15:16
      +1
      1. Agreed that it was immature but I didn't yell. Don't put words in my mouth.
      2. It's a health concern to everyone around especially when others are likely to be asleep at that time and may not even know they are inhaling a lot of second hand smoke but you can go ahead and paint me as selfish as you like.
      3. This is incorrect and incredibly ignorant of you to say this. If you spent any time reading this thread you will see that I am taking a lot of advice.

      OP will lose unless they change the way they do things, rather than arguing with an immature teenager.

      Straight up lie. I never argued I only asked them to stop smoking.

      You assume too much and put too many words in my mouth with only point 2 being somewhat valid

      • newjerseydamo on 29/03/2021 - 17:48

        I've read the thread and seen you reply on several occasions you're not going to change anything you do when people have suggested changing on your side of things, and do everything you can to get them to stop smoking in a way that won't bother you. So yes, that is true.

        I didn't twist any words.
        So you spoke at a regular volume from your house and they happened to hear you? Without you raising your voice at all? Yeah ok.

        Also I never said you argued with them. But it will be an argument if you continue to try and get them to stop smoking. It's rhetoric.

        It is incredibly selfish to expect someone to stop something they're doing ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

        But hey. No one likes hearing something where that person isn't on their side.

        • Bacons on 29/03/2021 - 18:02
          +2

          ok all talk no source. Link where I say I will "do everything I can to get them to stop smoking in a way that won't bother me"

          So you spoke at a regular volume from your house and they happened to hear you? Without you raising your voice at all? Yeah ok.

          You don't have to buy it but I did mention this was at 1AM in the morning.

          Would you argue that it's selfish to ask people to turn down their speakers at night as they're playing music from their own property?

  • tik tok on 29/03/2021 - 16:16
    +3

    Firstly, what state are you in? In most states and territories making a threat is considered common assault : https://www.gotocourt.com.au/criminal-law/nsw/making-threats…
    I would defo ring the cops about you being threatened and at least get it on file. No one has to live in the fear of threats.

    Secondly, there really is nothing you can do about the smoking other than what others have suggested. If you wanted to get creative burn some red chillies on a portable stove and get a fan to push the smoke their way.

    • pegasusx on 29/03/2021 - 19:10
      +2

      This reminds me of home made pepper spray.. illegal in Aus. But we did it in uni anyway.
      Bought some Reaper pepper power which you can order online. Grind it down into fine power and mix with ethanol.
      Put it in an fine aerosol pressurised can and release in front of a large fan.

  • field1985 on 29/03/2021 - 16:26
    -3

    What do you think gives you the right to tell someone what to do in THEIR OWN BACKYARD?

    "escalate legally if things don't work out"

    Escalate what? What legal basis do you have???

    GET OVER YOURSELF. If you don't like it… MOVE

    • Bacons on 29/03/2021 - 18:10

      I already dropped the "legal" option chill

    • champstarr on 30/03/2021 - 00:57

      Because it's affecting your neighbours and your in suburbia living next to other people. Neighbours should try to get along because who wants stress and worry constantly at home.
      Smoke all you want in your house with closed doors and windows if you need to but even smokers don't want the smell in their house.
      Such a typical meat head response is 'i can do anything I want on my property". Yeah sure if your on a big property and it doesn't affect anyone but you live in a neighbourhood.
      It really is incredible that so many dumb a…. can't understand this.

      • field1985 on 30/03/2021 - 14:48

        Really? Two personal insults in one comment?

        What about people that BBQ, run engines, mowers, blowers, motorbikes or cook exotic foods outdoors? Your right to privacy doesn't extend to control over the neighbourhoods air.

        If you want fresh air dont live in suburbia where thousands of cars spend hours lined up trying to get out every day. Live and let live.

        • capslock janitor on 31/03/2021 - 13:19

          What about people that BBQ, run engines, mowers, blowers, motorbikes or cook exotic foods outdoors?

          Prefer all these smells over ciggy smoke any day of the week.

    • lunchbox99 on 30/03/2021 - 10:05
      -1

      Every council in the country has laws against your activities impacting neighbours so you are already restricted in lots of ways what you can and cannot do on your own property.

      You can't mow your lawn at midnight. You can't landscape in ways that impede natural water flow. You can't covert your house into a business or apartment block against zoning regs. The list is endless. This notion you can do what you like on private property is frankly nonsense.

      • Bacons on 31/03/2021 - 20:31

        Crazy how this is downvoted so much.

        It reminds me of this comment

        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/613484?page=2#comment-1027…

        This is just like the drama that unfolded when a billionaire recently bought a crap load of land and people wanted to know what he was going to build on it.
        Like hello? Its his land, he can do whatever he wants.

        Makes me sad that people think this way. Zero awareness and everything is about "me" and "muh rights" even when we all know that there are a lot of building regulations and rules.

    • T1OOO on 31/03/2021 - 18:01

      Thanks smoker.

      I’m shooting people from my house who are walking by, what makes u think anyone has the right to make me stop since I’m on my land ??

  • crentist on 29/03/2021 - 16:29
    +2

    they like hanging out in the backyard and they smoke while they hang out. as long as they are in the backyard theyll keep doing it, because where else would they smoke?
    the answer might be to see if you can shift where they hang out by making it a little uncomfortable for them

    maybe start a compost pile or leave some shit-filled bins out by the fence close to where they usually sit, and see if the smell puts them off enough to go out front. although if past wind direction is any indication, this will just stink out your own room even more.

    another option might be to set up something like an led security light that keeps setting off and blasting them in the eyes a little too much for comfort

    depending on the kids, you might end up with a backyard scattered with compost and a smashed light. but if youre lucky they might just go slightly towards the other end of the yard

  • luffyex2010 on 29/03/2021 - 16:41
    +1

    Built air curtains for your windows… or buy industrial fan from bunnings to blow back when you are sleeping.

  • Drdrain on 29/03/2021 - 17:18

    Learn Muay Thai and put them in hospital.

    • champstarr on 30/03/2021 - 01:05

      Unfortunately this doesn't help because family members get more stressed over retaliation.

  • Betamaxx1 on 29/03/2021 - 17:23
    +3

    Imagine actually thinking you have the right to tell someone what to do on their own property and when they don't agree, find a way to make them comply with your wishes.
    Not condoning threats of violence but id probably. tell you to eff off in the same situation…

    • Bacons on 29/03/2021 - 18:18

      Agree, and I would too.

  • [Deactivated] on 29/03/2021 - 18:10
    +2

    time to sell up the house in logan / campbelltown / dandenong and move somewhere less shit

  • jsrz18 on 29/03/2021 - 18:27
    +2

    Buy them cigarettes and encourage them to smoke even more in the hope that they soon die. Then hope that your new neighbours are better.

  • juki on 29/03/2021 - 18:37
    +1

    put a huge pile of manure outside where they smoke

    put a big noisy fan blowing at them

  • OzyRad on 29/03/2021 - 18:54
    +2

    A big dose of cement works for me

  • monky on 29/03/2021 - 19:43
    +1

    Leave cigarettes dipped in bleach conveniently around their yard.
    (edit: Wait maybe don't do this)

  • dddddog on 29/03/2021 - 20:38
    +2

    This post is absolutely insane.

  • Tal_Shiar on 29/03/2021 - 22:43

    air flow works both ways, so get creative… ;) wink wink nudge nudge

  • [Deactivated] on 29/03/2021 - 22:47

    how much are cigarettes now in Australia?

    • kokita on 30/03/2021 - 11:44
      +1

      $50 for 30pack

      • No ONE on 30/03/2021 - 18:42
        -2

        30pack

        30 pack or a pack of 30.

  • Adz81 on 29/03/2021 - 22:57
    -3

    These are flipping kids, right?!

    How the (profanity) is it even an issue? Some 17yo gonna put you in hospital?
    They're just smarmy little a-holes still beating themselves stupid over granny porn in their parents' basement.
    Seek alternative air flow paths for sure, but these little cum stains will get themselves into a detention centre sooner or later.

  • JimB on 30/03/2021 - 11:04

    Landlord or Parents won't give a shit.. they're just happy the kids aren't smoking inside.

  • TheLurker on 30/03/2021 - 11:23

    One idea not mentioned. Buy one of the motion detecting security cam floodlight deals and mount it on the corner of your house facing their yard?

    If asking doesn't work and they get threatening it makes their yard less comfortable for hostile words and actions, while also giving you some extra security if they escalate. May be somewhat antagonising too so pick your timing to set it up based on conversations is about all I can suggest

  • spritz on 30/03/2021 - 11:30

    Just close the window and get an air purifier fan for your bedroom for air circulation. The air will be cleaner than the outside air with no smoke anyway depending on where you live. Also it will probably be cheaper than whatever revenge these people might try to get on you.

  • Tleyx on 30/03/2021 - 12:48

    This is why house living can be a nightmare, if you were on strata you could do something about it

  • GrazerAu on 30/03/2021 - 13:46
    +4

    If it were me, id Buy a carton of VB. Go see them early arvo when they will be thirsten and ask them if they can smoke out the front or other side of the house if its late night.

  • dinduboy14 on 30/03/2021 - 15:16

    introduce them to vaping. its smells better :)

  • ddhar on 30/03/2021 - 15:19

    "explain that it was getting into our rooms"

    Did you ever manage to talk to them during the day and explain this in more cordial manner? I'd like to believe most people can be reasoned with if you talk to them the right way (talking from behind window certainly is not).

    Failing that, then unfortunately you need to resort to either:
    1) Fans (to blow the smoke away),
    2) Emulating coughing sounds from an outdoor speaker (make them laugh at you initially, then hopefully feel bad and do something about the smoking), or
    3) Bikies

  • benbarren on 30/03/2021 - 16:12
    -1

    get a dark web delivery to their place and call the popo, they sound like shard heads anyway, prob not even on the lease.

  • Yarra Warrior on 30/03/2021 - 18:21
    +1

    I feel for you, OP. This is not a convenient experience for you.
    But unfortunately, you could do nothing to your neighbors if they are smoking within their own private space/right.
    Just imagine if you were in their shoes and someone is trying to ask you to do the same thing.

    Perhaps, you might try to talk to them nicely and hope that eventually they would budge.
    Worst case is you just need to buy a good standing fans to counter blow the smell oncoming into your window.

  • No ONE on 30/03/2021 - 18:40

    I would consider unpredictable (theage.com.au).

    F**K. 10 years is a very cheap sentence. Should have been put to life, the inconsiderate prick.

  • Kamsi on 30/03/2021 - 20:04

    You think neighbours smokers are bad, you haven't smell neighbours who cooked in the later hours of the night, I'm not talking about general cooking, I'm talking about deep fcking frying, the oilly smell can get up to you really bad.

    I live in a area where one side is smokers delight and the other side bad odours of cooking oils. Both side are fcking migrant workers. No disrespect toward migrant workers but they just couldn't stop smoking or cook odd hours of the day.

    • AustriaBargain on 31/03/2021 - 04:21

      Damn migrant workers always eating when I’m not hungry, damn them all.

      • Kamsi on 31/03/2021 - 13:12

        Maybe I rent one of the room to you, then you can have smokers delight and oily deep fried food everynight just in time when you get into bed for nice sleep :)
        Probably you have a wet dream eating deep fried food and smoking a cigarette :)
        Ain't it nice.

  • Wizzy2019 on 31/03/2021 - 03:31

    Change only what you have control of. Shut your window. Purchase an air purifier and pedestal fan. Turn both on at night and feel that cool refreshing air slither through your luscious locks.

    • AustriaBargain on 31/03/2021 - 04:22
      +1

      Yeah shut the window and forget they exist like you would if they didn’t smoke.

  • eklipsils on 31/03/2021 - 04:48

    Get a fan or air purifier near your window or double glazed windows with proper seals so no noise or smell get in.

  • PensionerXXL on 31/03/2021 - 10:20

    any updates op? has it come to blows?

    you could always start dealing, and when you've built up good relations with your clients offer a discount for handling the neighbor situation
    better still maybe the lads from next door will become friendly and you can sell to them, that way when you see cops you can throw your gear into their yard

  • Gravy on 31/03/2021 - 10:38

    Do you have access to the roof space?? Is it a rental or do you own the house?

    Perhaps you could ventilate the room another way, like a small fan taking air from a rooftop vent? Here's a start

    http://www.skynvents.com.au/ventilation/room-ventilation/

  • biozet on 31/03/2021 - 11:54
    +1

    take up smoking..its a cheap and healthy lifestyle choice

  • khomeini on 31/03/2021 - 12:13
    +1

    Let me ask you whether you'd like if I, as a Muslim/Jew, did not like the BBQ smoke when you're cooking pork in your backyard. It blows into my room via window etc… I call out for you to stop as to me it's disgusting and I can't stand it.
    WWYD Bacon?
    Personally, I'd close the window & say "they're doing it again" to myself and learn to adapt by getting a fan/diffuser & hope they go away (or if it becomes worse - look at leaving). I can't expect them to change their habits and antagonising them is not going to be fruitful.

    • Bacons on 31/03/2021 - 20:17

      WWYD Bacon?

      If you had allergies or the smoke was physically harmful to your body, you best believe I would do everything to stop the smoke from getting to your side or I'll just quit it. I don't need bacon to survive and I don't want a hobby to be harmful to other people.

      If you don't like it because you don't like it, we can arrange something such as a set time when I BBQ or I'll give a warning ahead of time somehow. Either way you won't find me doing it at a time when you are sleeping and could be taking in the smoke unconsciously.

      • khomeini on 01/04/2021 - 00:19
        +1

        Fair answer and what I'd expect a reasonable person to do - but you wouldn't know why unless I told you first.
        In your case, after telling them once to stop smoking without an explanation on why, it's bound to antagonise them more as they're probably aggravated by why someone would ask them to stop in their own space - it's unfair in their eyes.
        If you had started with a casual discussion with them over the fence about why it's an issue to you and perhaps smoking somewhere further from the fence it may have worked out differently. Now you're in a situation where they're already riled up and anything you say will be tainted by the initial command.
        I think it may still work by you making your way to the fence next time you see them smoking, apologising first (this will hopefully disarm them somewhat) and then let them know why you'd said that previously - hopefully, they heed, and if they don't, at least you had some verbal comms.. and they don't want to kill you at least.
        I remember a lecture I once attended about aggression and how a simple apology or smiling goes a long way in lessening the tension. I've also had run-ins with aggressive people (and been the aggressor) and there are idiots who simply won't listen/learn and continue to be sassholes but most can be disarmed.
        Good luck though and truly hope it works out with some of the advice meted out here.

  • Grat on 31/03/2021 - 12:35

    Shut your window at night. Buy and eat prawns each week. Strategically place prawn heads your side of the fence. Maybe you can feed a nonexistent cat fish based cat food your side of the fence. Do this until their habits change. The smell will eventually cause them to want to move. Alternatively, install a noisy window aircon. Can you place a security light where their movement will trigger it? There maybe someone in their household they don't want to know that they smoke. If you can't get back to sleep play country and western music, classical music or marching band music loud enough thst they need to close their windows (not that loud that the police can be called).

    Nicotine is a strange drug that can act to relax or excite the user depending on the context of its use. He is probably using it as away to calm himself down prior to sleep. It is not in your interest to allow this to happen. As the effect is fairly week, you need only to minimally anoy him to get a reverse reaction from him. Smokers sense of smell are badly deadenned. You might find the smellier solutions more annoying to you than him.

    If they have threatened you do not speak to them. Even if they want to discuss the matter.

  • pixelvandal on 31/03/2021 - 12:42

    the only good eshay is one with a caved in skull from my steel cap workboot. We have some living near us and I have had to literally chase them away from breaking into my car with a steel bat down the street. Little b*stards. Police literally do NOTHING about it.

  • bigtom_999 on 31/03/2021 - 13:24

    Once the smoke is in, swing a wet towel around the room over your head. The towel will soak up some of the smoke - I do this if I burn toast badly and it sucks it up pretty quick.

  • stingykent on 31/03/2021 - 13:27
    -1

    You can't make someone stop smoking in their own backyard, grow a set.

    • Grat on 31/03/2021 - 15:32
      +1

      I agree you can't make them stop. However, their smoke is a nuisance at best and negligence at worse (if the smoke injures someone). Legal process would not likely be successful. An intrusive nusiance is best matched by an equivalent. Getting a set is probably the wrong taunt here perhaps you could suggest a teaspoon of cement instead. Standing up to threatening neighbours is not cowardice. It is the reverse. Not everyone can afford to move away from bullies. However, their lack of intelligence can make them easy to manipulate.

  • jonathan111 on 31/03/2021 - 15:38
    +1

    Put down a truck load of cow manure in your yard on that side of the house

    • Make it so on 01/04/2021 - 12:59

      Was about to suggest that. Make sure you do it on a hot day.

      Another option is to put several containers with still water out to create a mosquito breathing ground.

      Smoking may be legal, but that doesn't make it inconsiderate when right next to someone else's bedroom. We often have the same issue, where instead of smelling the nice evening air we breath in the neighbour's tobacco smell.

      • Ughhh on 01/04/2021 - 18:27

        but that doesn't make it inconsiderate when right next to someone else's bedroom

        Creepy. Do you know where which room is where in your neighbours property?

  • 91rs on 31/03/2021 - 16:49
    +2

    No winning this, had this for decades in Sydney and Melbourne is no better I've found, I've not bothered approaching smokers pretty much anywhere these days as they are often quite aggressive and uninterested in how their smoking impacts others even when done in a very civil way, very defensive and always think they're right to do as they please, which includes their continual littering either from vehicles, on the street or outside of workplaces.
    Close the doors or windows, buy a good air purifier and or AC to keep cool in summer, hope for the best.
    Also pick your battles with neighbors, especially if they have little to lose and could enjoy making your time there quite painful if they pleased.

  • johno3456 on 31/03/2021 - 22:43

    I am not a smoker but there is nothing illegal about smoking on your own property.
    Close the window, buy air fresher or move house.
    Do not be a dick about it for escalating is the dark side and leads to anger, hate, you will soon end up with petty crimes, damaged cars, broken windows etc.

  • Dr Prepper on 01/04/2021 - 01:42
    +1

    Go out and ask for a smoke every time you see them out there ? They may eventually avoid you. If that doesn't work and they keep giving you cigarettes start eating them without breaking eye contact.

  • Motek Benzona on 06/04/2021 - 18:59
    -2

    First post..long time lurker

    If someone came to my house and told me to stop doing something in my garden that I could legally do I would do the thing they are asking me not to do 25 times more…really, I would.

    What kind of planet do you live on? It's planet Earth not planet do as I say on your own private property. Give it up, Your problem with what they do on their own private property is not their problem

    That is all

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