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just got the 3camels alert for this

very good mirrorless camera from Canon, pocketable and compact

I recommend to ditch the kit lens and get 22/2 EF-M (35mm full frame equivalent), and you've got yourself a solid walkaround kit that fits in a pocket

I used to have one, I sold it after I bought Canon RP on Boxing Day sales. Canon RP is full frame and is on whole different level to this, especially in low light performance which matters to me a lot, but I miss M50 as it's so compact and handy for family outings, especially with aforementioned 22/2 lens attached. Canon color science combined with great ergonomics and fast focusing - M50 is their best EF-M camera to date

sometimes I wished it had more controls like M5, but still a lot is achievable with what's there.

P.S. isn't this funny how I go from tiny cameras I hardly feel hanging on my shoulder to huge setups I need a dedicated backpack to carry around

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  • anamul on 27/04/2021 - 15:01
    +18

    +1 for taking the time to write about the camera

    • shabaka on 29/04/2021 - 12:21

      my pleasure :)

  • overpriced on 27/04/2021 - 15:05

    Nice find. I still haven't worked out Amazon's algorithm, but if it dips below $600 I'd be tempted (as the Camels have shown it has in the past)…even though I don't need the thing.

    • shabaka on 27/04/2021 - 15:25
      +2

      it's just general prices increase, against common logic

      this camera has been cheaper before

      just like people sell Canon 6d mii for $1800 now and that's considered "sale" when I bought one end of 2019 for $1300, so go figure. prices just went crazy

      just like Canon RP is now sold for $1500 just the body, when I bought the 24-105 kit for the same price on Boxing Day. "deals" my behind.

      I am sure this camera will dip in price though.

      • macrocephalic on 27/04/2021 - 17:36

        I'm in the middle of switching systems and it's amazing how many people are asking more for used lenses on ebay/marketplace than I can get them from (grey marekt) online retailers.

        Getting a lens is difficult because I don't want to buy new, but I also don't want to pay 90% of the new price for a used item.

        • shabaka on 29/04/2021 - 12:20

          it all depends on the lens and its popularity. all the big whites 70-200 and 70-300 hold their value well, especially when they have been treated with respect they deserve

          it's possible to pick up a working (read: money making) used EF mount lens for $1 - $1.5k and start shooting. be it 70-200 2.8L or 70-300 4-5.6L or 35/1.4L or 24-70 2.8L you're all set. if you pick one in solid condition, it will serve for the years to come.

          • macrocephalic on 30/04/2021 - 12:08

            @shabaka: This is true for Canikon lenses, but Sony lenses are all stupid prices. For the most part I'm still using EF lenses on an MC-11 because something as simple as a normal zoom (24-70ish f2.8) is hard to get under $800 used (even though you can buy the Tamron 28-75 for $1k new).

            • shabaka on 30/04/2021 - 12:52

              @macrocephalic: yeah one of the reasons I am not using Sony cameras

              ergonomics suck
              lenses cost arm and a leg, despite being just average among similar big company options
              colours suck OOC

              Canon is trying to be the new Sony with price policies for RF lenses, which is why I don't buy RF lenses, I use good old EF glass on an adaptor

    • 0power on 27/04/2021 - 16:12
      +1

      I'm pretty sure they just automatically price match the lowest price for any aussie retailer such as this one:

      https://www.digidirect.com.au/canon-eos-m50-mirrorless-camer…

    • Yummy on 27/04/2021 - 17:19

      Tempted too here. It's still a bit overpriced.

  • skwashd on 27/04/2021 - 15:46
    +1

    This is a great camera. I own one. I'd suggest checking out the Sigma prime lenses and/or the Viltrox EF/EF-S adaptor. Some good deals can be found on eBay for second hand EF/EFS lenses.

    The M50 MkII dropped a little while ago. It isn't a significant upgrade but worth considering before you buy the OG M50.

    • shabaka on 27/04/2021 - 15:56
      +11

      yeah, I think M50 mkii wsn't a big change at all, almost like new firmware, not a whole new product

      I tried almost all EF-M lenses available, and even shot a few EF lenses with adaptor, but then you lose compact nature of this camera along the way. 22/2 on this body is the true spirit of what mirrorless should have been, while I don't mind using my RP with EF adaptor and huge Canon L lens attached to it

      to round up what I had:

      • EF-M 11-22 is an awesome lens if you want to shoot wide angle, however it didn't work well for me since I mostly shoot hand held indoors, and while wide angle is awesome for this, and this lens is super sharp, it's not fast enough
      • EF-M 18-150 is an awesome do it all with one lens package. it's sharp enough for an amateur or enthusiast, and is one lens people would rarely take off if they prefer versatile nature of the zoom
      • EF-M 22/2 is my favorite, it's small, it's fast, and it's super sharp. bokeh is amazing, as this lens allows to focus close. some great portraits can be done with this
      • EF-S 55-250 IS STM is a fantastic lens, although looks a bit silly attached to this body via EF adaptor. sharp, perfect for outdoor sports and anything else you'd want long tele for
      • EF 85 1.8 fantastic portraits, but not very versatile as it's a bit too tele for a walk around - depends on what you shoot of course
      • Sigma EF-M 30 1.4 also amazing portraits and low light performer, but I didn't like color rendering - not a problem for people who like to tinker with photos in post, I don't have time for this, so I got rid of it
      • EF 50 1.8 STM really good choice for portraits and everything else
      • EF 35 F2 IS USM this is I think the best alternative to EF-M 22/2, as it's good for everything, but you lose compactness as it mounts on EF adaptor
      • ThatsCheap on 27/04/2021 - 16:12

        Some great information here. Thank you for taking the time to write this up.

        • shabaka on 27/04/2021 - 16:30

          to crown up I would highlight these:

          • EF-M 22/2 as just all round winner for prime lovers (EF-M 32 1.4 as second place: a bit better for portraits and low light, but not as versatile as 22)
          • EF-M 18-150 STM as "one lens to rule them all" (no second place here. there's EF-M 55-200 but it doesn't go wide, so screw it)
          • EF 50 1.8 STM on an EF adapter - this will make better portraits than native 32 1.4 above, but you need an adapter
          • EF-S 55-250 IS STM on EF adapter - because 18-150 above is not quick enough for outdoor sports
          • dman5337 on 27/04/2021 - 16:48

            @shabaka: Is this the 22/2 you are talking about?
            https://www.amazon.com.au/Canon-EF-M-STMLens-Siilver-EFM2220…

            • shabaka on 27/04/2021 - 16:50

              @dman5337: yes, that's the one. I got mine off ebay, used, for $135 last year. cheap as chips

          • stanstho on 27/04/2021 - 17:14

            @shabaka: I still main an M50 for all my work and this is pretty similar to my kit out as well, except I tend to swap out the 11-22 over the 22 prime and lose the EF-S zoom (easier for me since I don't shoot sports).

            How did you find the EF 35mm F2 IS adapted on the M50? It's kind of my "holy grail" lens at the moment because I shoot a mix of run and gun video and photo stuff (often in low light) and find the 11-22 to be too dark and the 22mm F2 too shaky without IS - and since I use the EF 50mm regularly without issue (sometimes with speed booster, sometimes regular adapter) I'm not too worried about the increase in size… but the EF 35mm IS is just so damn expensive so I've been hesitant so far.

            Curious to hear your thoughts on it.

            • shabaka on 27/04/2021 - 23:10

              @stanstho: 35 f2 IS is a super cool lens. it's just perfect on crop body, and has IS, what more can you ask for? great for almost anything

  • HeyaRoach on 27/04/2021 - 16:18

    god damn it, i just bought a secondhand version for this one around 600 a week ago.
    Great Camera though, and the agree the 15-45mm is not that great.

  • R4 on 27/04/2021 - 16:27

    How do you find the RP? I'm thinking of getting one for my wife as she's learning photography. It seems to have a lot of capability for the money.

    • shabaka on 27/04/2021 - 16:38
      +3

      I like RP, and it's perfect for someone learning. it will be a while till you start to feel its limits

      the only areas where it lags behind current flagship cameras:
      - slower focusing
      - slower shutter (1/4000 top speed, as opposed to 1/8000)
      - slower burst speeds (might miss some moments in quick action)
      - no silent (electronic) shutter - well it's there, but only in Auto mode with limited control over shooting parameters
      - I wouldn't shoot in wet conditions as weather sealing is not there
      - not that wide dynamic range (if you shoot RAW outdoors and pull details from shadows a lot, you will see quite a bit of noise quicker than if you were using EOS R or Sony A7iii for example)

      otherwise this camera is perfectly good even for professional work: product photography, studio photography, outdoor events photography (yes you might miss occasional shot to slower focus and slower burst) etc. and certainly good for learning photography

      • [Deactivated] on 27/04/2021 - 16:40

        Perfect for landscapes photography!

      • R4 on 27/04/2021 - 16:49

        Thanks for the reply

    • shabaka on 27/04/2021 - 16:49
      +1

      https://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm

      Ken Rockwell really recommends it (although he raves about almost everything he touches, in this case I agree with a lot of his statements)

      the controls on RP are perfect, the body is very well designed, it's light, and it's got plenty controls.

      to start with, it's got a mode dial (as opposed to EOS R that has that horrible touch bar which should never have been invented), and 3 custom modes on it available for quick recall.

      so for example shooting events I can go instantly from aperture priority with auto shutter speed to capture wide angle shot of the area with narrow aperture for DOF, click, and I go into aperture priority with minimum 1/500 shutter to stop action, zoom in and capture someone's expression - all just rotating mode dial from C1 to C2

  • Magical Sound Shower on 27/04/2021 - 16:30
    +1

    Price matching DigiDirect if anyone prefers C&C:

    https://www.digidirect.com.au/canon-eos-m50-mirrorless-camer…

  • Hashstrid on 27/04/2021 - 16:37

    Hey Shabaka, great post and thank you so much.
    You seem like a real expert and I would really apprecaite it if you could help us out.

    My partner is a dentist and wants to get a camera/lens for photography of her patients teeth (Before/after), whilst also being a camera we can use on our outings and travels, zoom and landscape shots

    We are both complete noobs in this area, I was close to getting the Sony A6400 for about $1200
    I also see lots of posts on the A7, but i think thats a bit big and probs way more than We would require. Our budget is somewhat open but trying to stay under $1500.

    What would you recommened?

    Really appreciate it

    • shabaka on 27/04/2021 - 16:41

      haha sorry that's something I've never attempted, not sure which camera would be the best for this!

      A6400 has a very quick focus indeed, and might do the trick, this camera will also work fine I think..

    • lomie on 27/04/2021 - 17:10

      Dental photography requires something like a ring flash (or dual flash) and reasonably close focus distance. So the body doesn't matter too much except that it needs to trigger the flash. As for the lens, that usually means a macro lens. Articles on the web suggest a full frame equivalent of around 100mm focal length. This is to allow full face portraiture with little distortion i.e. the face isn't distorted like when using a wide angled lens. So this means that you will need another more versatile lens for general photography.

      Alternatively, you can look at a ring light and smaller point and shoot cameras (or even phones) if you don't want to spend so much.

      • Hashstrid on 27/04/2021 - 17:14

        Thank you for the reply.

        We are looking at getting a camera for our future outings and travelling anyway.
        The dentistry stuff is a good excuse to get a good camera :)

        I think I might keep an eye out on the A6400 since it seems to be very well received

        • lomie on 27/04/2021 - 17:29

          Best to google dental photography and the camera body you were looking at to see what solutions others have already come up with. Then find a versatile travel lens to suit that body and whether all that gear is still within budget.

  • [Deactivated] on 27/04/2021 - 16:39

    Best value camera on the market, hands down. If you don't need full frame, this is the camera to get (unless you have the cash to splurge on the M6II, like I did).

    Couple it will a viltrox 0.71x speed booster for $170 and you're getting results close to a $1500 Canon RP. Now that's a bargain.

    Take off the speed booster and you can use the compact EF-M for lightweight travel, save on baggage - another bargain.

    I wouldn't be holding out for a cheaper price: most second hand M50's are selling for more than this.

    • basketballfreak6 on 28/04/2021 - 08:13

      M6II is awesome. My main cam is a 5D MK4 but these days I walk around with just the M6II, EF-M 32mm 1.4 and 11-22 and only pull out the 5D for jobs and planned shoots. It's crazy that my entire M setup weighs less than just the 5D4 + Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art combo lol.

  • dav3 on 27/04/2021 - 16:54

    Seems like a decent camera, I was seriously considering one but went with the Olympus E-M5 II instead a couple of years ago…….. I prefered the extra lens options and weather-sealing

    • shabaka on 27/04/2021 - 17:04

      I used E-M5 ii last year for a few months. it was a great camera, but I still sold it and moved on to Canon M5 and then M50

      E-M5ii has just a few drawbacks:
      - only contrast detect focusing, too unreliable in low light
      - some settings that should be part of the "quick select" mode are global, which was kind of limiting in some cases (focus point selections)
      - in general it's Olympus. the guys don't know how to make a good menu that doesn't drive people insane. took me a couple of weeks and reading some pretty arcane guides online to set the camera up the way I wanted
      - a bit noisy sensor I would say, but maybe I'm a bit too picky
      - good glass costs a fortune

      On the other hand yeah it does have some really good things going for it:
      - IBIS. I could stop right there! it's amazing to have
      - weather sealing. self explanatory. although I couldn't get my hands on any weather sealed lenses to try that out
      - plenty of controls and very flexible in how you can set the damn thing up (although it's a very tedious task to go through that menu A to Z and not go absolutely bonkers)
      - and oh yes silent shutter, and electronic first curtain. nice things to have

      and I got spoiled by Canon mobile phone app integration. easy to import photos. Olympus phone app.. well let's be honest it sucks.

  • stanstho on 27/04/2021 - 17:04

    For anybody still deciding - The majority of my photography portfolio (other than drone shots) were taken on this fantastic little camera. Super versatile, especially with the EF adapter.

  • Young gardener on 27/04/2021 - 17:09

    Hello Shabaka, Which camera would you recommend for videography (starting as a side hustle job to utilise my video editing knowledge)? I was thinking if Sony a7ii, but not sure. Thanks

    • lomie on 27/04/2021 - 17:32

      Do your research on both lenses and bodies. Most mirrorless bodies are pretty good at video. So it all comes down to the style you are after and this will determine your lens selection. Budget may narrow the scope unless you have a huge budget.

      A7ii is getting old and the A7iii was quite a leap forward. I would at least aim for the A7iii.

    • Oldmate88 on 27/04/2021 - 17:40

      Probably the A6400. Can record 4k for longer

    • shabaka on 27/04/2021 - 17:43

      video isn't my forte, but in general what I know is summed up in the other comments to your question: Sony rules the video at the moment, and A7iii is a fantastic camera for that

  • ky1975 on 27/04/2021 - 18:15
    +1

    I am after a camera for live streaming, does it shutdown after a few minutes of streaming?

    • TheBotman on 29/04/2021 - 04:49

      +1 - shabaka, your expert opinion is needed here :)

    • ky1975 on 29/04/2021 - 09:47

      It sounds like this camera shutdown after 30m if using HDMI out, not good for HD live streaming.

    • shabaka on 29/04/2021 - 12:15

      apologies I don't use video much, I am more of the stills person, so I can't provide an insight here, unfortunately :)

      • ky1975 on 29/04/2021 - 14:27

        Thats okay mate, I did some research and 30m is the limit, there is a workaround but it is just a workaround.

  • LaTerrible on 27/04/2021 - 19:30

    Gosh that's an astonishing amount of camera for the money.

    Gave me pause for thought from the rx10…

  • ronitdias on 28/04/2021 - 15:01

    Idk if this is the lowest it'll get to, but I bit the bullet and bought it from digidirect, as it was the same price. The guy gave me a good deal too, picked up the Canon EF adapter + 50mm 1.8 for a total of 960$. It think that setup is worth the money and it'll be great upgrade over my current D3300. I've always wanted to switch to Canon, can't wait to get started

    • shabaka on 28/04/2021 - 15:08
      +1

      that's great! nice portrait setup

      • ronitdias on 28/04/2021 - 16:49

        Agreed, gonna be a good setup for landscape, city and portrait shots. I love using a prime and it fixed focal length makes it interesting to get shots. Gonna go for Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 as my allrounder lens once I have enough dough to spend.

  • poiboy03 on 28/04/2021 - 21:35

    Thanks for the post managed to price match jbhifi and picked up 1 just now.

    We used to have a Olympus em1 with 12-40mm, 17mm f1.8, 20mm f1.7, 45mm
    Mainly used it for our babies and food photography.

    I'm not allowed to spend few $k on camera anymore.
    Just gonna use the kit lens + a prime.

    ** Guys please advise and recommend a prime that's good for kids, portrait and food.
    No more than $500 preferably.

    I noticed Canon M system has very limited lenses?
    the Canon 22mm f2 mentioned here, will it be able to create enough blur like the Olympus f1.7?

    Should I just buy the 22mm f2 or get an adapter and choose a different Canon?

    Thanks everyone

    • shabaka on 28/04/2021 - 21:59
      +1

      22/2 is your best bet

      in full frame FOV/DOF terms you're looking at 40/3.4 from Oly 20/1.7 vs 35/3.2 from Canon 22/2

      it was fantastic for kids/family as you can step back and fit everyone into the frame, or get close and get a fantastic portrait with shallow DOF

      I miss those simple days. now I have a full frame with 28-300L monster attached to it permanently for outdoor sports, so I can get lazy and get a portrait from 10 metres away on tele end (300 5.6 for portraits has shallower DOF than those wide primes) or fit everyone in on wide. but a dedicated backpack to carry this setup around, sigh

      • poiboy03 on 29/04/2021 - 00:48

        Thanks again for all your detailed posts and comparison, got a capable camera again without spending too much

  • OSA on 29/04/2021 - 01:38

    Hi Shabaka, great insights into this camera. I am also using this camera but mostly for vlogs. I don't think that camera kit is justifying the video (stock lens).

    Would you mind suggesting any other lens fir videos that will take videos to next level?

    • shabaka on 29/04/2021 - 12:13

      depends on the look you are looking for, see if you can find some online comparisons in the outputs of the following primes:

      • Canon 22/2 EF-M
      • Canon 32/1.4 EF-M
      • Sigma 16/1.4 EF-M
      • Sigma 30/1.4 EF-M
      • Sigma 56/1.4 EF-M

      they will give you different FOV/DOF depending on intended distance/lighting, there's no one-size-fits-all here. 22/2 is the best middle ground, as it's most versatile FOV for both stills and videos, but some people prefer either going wider at 16 or longer at 32. once again, depends on your intended purpose/setup/desired outcome

      • OSA on 29/04/2021 - 12:27

        Thanks a ton for your reply. I'll do some comparison. At least I have got a starting point now, so thanks heaps for that.

  • Magicbee on 29/04/2021 - 11:42

    If you do a lot of indoors shoots, you can't go wrong with this M50+22mm lens combo. I am enjoying it throughly.

    • shabaka on 29/04/2021 - 12:14

      yes, it's the match made in heaven :)

  • stockpimp on 02/05/2021 - 19:50

    Looking to upgrade from my Canon G7X mark 2 to shoot YouTube videos indoors where I talk to the camera.

    I purchases the G7x mark 3 last year but had to return it due to poor autodfocus.

    Do you think this camera will suit my needs and what lens do you recommend?

    • shabaka on 02/05/2021 - 20:21

      depends. if you are planning to shoot 1080p only, this camera is fantastic

      if you plan to shoot 4k, look elsewhere:
      - additional crop in 4k
      - contrast detection focusing only (lots of focus hunt if you want AF in 4k)

      if 1080p is your choice, start with 22/2 lens, or with 32/1.4 if you have the budget

      there are also Sigma 16, 30, and 56 1.4 primes, they are a bit cheaper than Canon lenses, and give you a variety of FOV to choose from, but 22/2 is a good cheap starting point that you can pick up cheap on eBay used, and you'll find out if you need something tighter or wider, and either leave it or sell on easily

      • stockpimp on 03/05/2021 - 09:22

        Hmm yeh I prefer 4K. I noticed your comment about Sony doing well with video. Which camera would you suggest if I strictly want to use video not much photo and which lens? Standard seems to be A6400 but can I get away with anything cheaper?

        • shabaka on 03/05/2021 - 09:58

          also look at Panasonic G80/G85, they could come out cheaper, but slightly tighter crop
          solid 4k output as far as I know, I heard of people using them professionally for events. weather sealed, too

          but I would still go Sony.

          once again, I am no video master, more of a stills person :) so I may not know some kinks or limitations of particular hardware

    • Polak on 04/05/2021 - 12:41

      Actually thinking of binning mine and getting dji pocket 2 camera.

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