Second dose will be admitted in three weeks time. Not looking forward to it :(
[AMA] I Just Got The First Shot of The Pfizer Vaccine. Ask Me Anything
tomleonhart on 12/05/2021 - 11:45
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4 minutes without a response…..
Not really. Outside yes, inside who knows what the tracking device the government has just injected into me has done.
It is inserted for the pleasure of good old Bill not the government, specially when he is single these days. At least that is what the signs held by the Anti-vaxxers said. So it's gotta be true…
At least that is what the signs held by the Anti-vaxxers said. So it's gotta be true…
They can be funny. I have some US friends that praise Trump for getting the vaccine out so quickly, but refuse to take it because it's out so quickly and is untested.
They also beleive that Bill Gates is involved so that he can control population growth, just as he's been doing with Vaccines in Africa for years.
The African population going down then, is it?
You'd be surprised.
One angle anti-vaxxers take is the proven reduction in fertility seen in Africa after widespread vaccination (against polio I believe?).
They completely miss the fact that the reduction is in statistical fertility, and that it was due to the fact that more children were surviving to adulthood (thanks to the vaccine) and thus women were giving birth to less children.
@dizzle: Plot twist from them this morning:
Apparently the microchips are the mark of the devil described in the bible and this is the first sign of the upcomin rapture.
They're not worried though because good Chistians will be taken up before it happens. But they do ask how the doctors and media will explain the rapture to the rest of us.
You couldn't make this up….Well, you can
How's your 5G reception?
The Pfizer Vaccine Proudly made in India
no its not. Who gave you that crap?
Congratulations!
I'm looking forward to getting mine.
When you getting it ?
I'm not sure yet. I only registered yesterday.
Has your mobile reception improved indoors?
Have you noticed any changes to your skin? Like scales ala crocodile?
Yes. how do you know ?
did you turn into a geyy crocodile?
Any symptoms associated with the vaccine?
A relative of mine got AstraZeneca before it was deemed unsafe for their age group and they experience all kinds of post-vaccine symptoms.
I felt quite sick and had to go home yesterday. Got told to go home today too because I end up with a runny nose. Apparently the 2nd dose is worst that's why i am not looking forward to it.
Had my second shot of Pfizer last Friday. Sore arm but no other issues.
I felt quite sick and had to go home yesterday. Got told to go home today too because I end up with a runny nose. Apparently the 2nd dose is worst that's why i am not looking forward to it.
Yes, looking at your avatar, your smile does look a little forced. Also, your eyebrows didn't move… Did you also get botox?
I had mine yesterday. No symptoms or side effects so far besides a sore arm at the injection point. Basically feels like I went to the gym and did an arm workout so the day after it gets the usual sore, no biggie.
Apparently the 2nd dose is worst that's why i am not looking forward to it.
First dose just got a very sore arm, but otherwise ok, but had heard a few stories that 2nd dose was worse, so was a little worried.
Then when I got into the shuttle bus to go from carpark to venue and the driver was playing the funeral march. I kid you not!
Like you, I felt like garbage after the first one.
Second one had no effects on my well-being.
None of my cohort reacted hard on the first one, but they all went down for a day or so on the second.
Take whole weekend off to get over it make you dog sick.
Everybody's personal immune system responds differently. My partner (44) and myself (38) both had AZ dose 1 in March (due for dose 2 mid-June) and loaded up on fluids and panadol before going to bed that night and on waking up the next morning. Both of us had sore arms and general lethargy, but were otherwise ok. Neither of us missed work. Arms were still a little sore the day after that, mine was pretty much back to normal. That's about the sum of it.
YMMV.
Interesting site….
Front page site tells me all I need to know about this siteTime to start learning about the REAL TRUTHS and Alternative Facts
So this is where fellow QAnon and alt rights followers gets their info from.
@pinkybrain: Thanks Einstein, so what was your expert opinion about the the actual nurses and what they suffered? Are they just faking it? Or are you one of those 'coincidence theorists'? Or do you just reject every source of information that hasn't been personally approved by Karl Stefanovic or the infobabes on the TV 'news'?
@EightImmortals: The delusion of people who think they can't be wrong because they believe the government and the mainstream media is truly frightening.
Humans have a really filthy habit of totally forgetting history. The way forward for society is to allow public discourse and listen to people's individual experiences so we can understand everyone's concerns. This is the way medical science used to work - studies and tests were done in response to people, not the government. Yet the corporate overlords at the media and government have decided that discussing COVID outside of the pre-approved facts isn't allowed and we must blindly follow the opinion of an organisation that has knowingly colluded with one of the worst human rights offenders of our time.
@SlavOz: Cheers. Yep, sad time indeed. I was just reading a good article on that exact same topic as it happens. I'll just post a snippet but the whole thing is worth a look.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/04/medical-notes/
‘The Science’ versus science
Science first became unwell when we had to suddenly accept, without any possibility of debate, the rules of small numbers of health officials. Rules which were a new human experiment, never before attempted in this sort of scale, and had been explicitly ruled out by the World Health Organisation in their pre-2020 pandemic guidelines. When one of Australia’s most distinguished immunologists, and my friend, Professor Robert Clancy, wrote an article exploring the possibilities of early treatments for Covid to go hand-in-hand with vaccinations and this was portrayed as some sort of partisan political view, science was wheeled into the ICU. Professor Clancy holds the highest, and rarest, scientific degree in Australia and has no vested interest in the success or otherwise of drugs like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. And when YouTube banned a video of the world’s foremost scientific experts from Stanford, Harvard and Oxford for ‘disinformation’ for questioning the validity of harsh lockdowns and face masks on children, the monitor on science started to flatline. The Science had emerged and was landing some potentially mortal blows.@SlavOz: "The delusion of people who think they can't be wrong because they believe the government and the mainstream media is truly frightening"
But you prefer to believe some random anti-vax guy with no credentials without even considering he might and his guests might not be genuine. The name of his site is unintentionally hilarious too.
The cognotive dissonance is amazing.
@syousef: Hawkiss, rape in minister's office, parliament house jacking off scandal, mascot towers and other unregulated industries, defence submarine debacle, indigenous baby mortality rates, ruby princess, lease of Darwin port, security guard scandal in Victoria, undisclosed holiday to Hawaii during bush fire emergency, let's maintain military relations with brunei for as long as possible, get AstraZenecca totally safe whooops disregard you might die so just let the elderly get it, that dude who got 100k in an LV bag, fake drivers licence Casanova from Tassie
And remember to do everything the institutions responsible for the above tell you to do, exactly as they say it. Or else you're a loonie.
@Assburg: So you're saying that because there is corruption and incompetence in the government you should believe any random person on the street over them. This is how cults are born.
Also amazes me that you're willing to accept the mainstream news about that corruption and incompetence, when you've decided that those sources are all untrustworthy.
The human race is doomed unless we can turn it around and teach some critical thinking!
@syousef: No, I'm vaccinated.
I'm a frontline worker, and I'm moving overseas next year to study.
It makes sense for me to take the risk.
Everyone else should consult a variety of sources and do their own research, and they shouldn't be chastised for it. Don't talk about critical thinking if you think it means listening to government-employed talking heads…
At current per capita rates, I would not be surprised if had we continued with AstraZenecca for all, it would've very quickly killed more people in Australia, under 50 and without comorbidities than covid has..
Would you believe me if I said that during AstraZenecca, senior government employees were getting their departments together to give them the "you and your staff will support this vaccination rollout, and anything you do that may be percieved to hurt it may decrease your employability" speech?
@Assburg: I'm fine with you not trusting the government and being suspicious. It's the doctors, medical researchers and scientists you're not trusting that i have a problem with. You'd rather some random American web TV show host with pre-conceived notions.
It's funny how you are rubbishing the government and medical establishment here, yet you acknowledge that they actually did restrict the use of AstraZenecca when problems were found.
@syousef: I think you have missed the point…
I'm encouraging sceptisim of all sources, I just think you give the government too much credibility (I say this from within the organisation).
Cool, they restricted the use of AZ after a few of the Australians who were unknowingly participating in a clinical trial died.
Even the rollout of what they want to force us to do is a debacle. I visited a state Emergency Operations Centre last year, and I asked the logistics branch what they did, and it was "We organise meals for the office. :)"
@Assburg: Yeah, you're right, I'm absolutely obsessed with credibility. I won't listen to a ranting, raving lunatic and give them the same credit as large organisations of credentialed scientists that have oversight. Mea culpa.
Your characterisation of the use of AstraZenecca as "Australians who were unknowingly participating in a clinical trial" is both hysterical and intentionally misleading. People were in fact aware that these vaccines were new and that the clinical trials conducted has been limited.
The continued attacks on government are irrelevant. I've already told you I'm not a fan, and those aren't the people who I am listening to when I look at getting vaccinated. And I don't have any knowledge of your employer or your employment situation but if you're working with vulnerable people it is reasonable to mandate vaccination. At the end of the day if you don't like that, you can always get a different job.
@syousef: "People were in fact aware that these vaccines were new and that the clinical trials conducted has been limited."
So, apparently my claim that it was a clinical trial is misleading (as well as funny).
I didn't get told about any risks when I got mine, I didn't sign a waiver. Second shot had to wait around for ten minutes after the fact, just in case I died.
The only way anyone could've known it wasn't a trial is if they'd done independent research, outside the scope of the key government public messaging.
And, you can mince the words anyway you like, "mostly safe" isn't safe. 0.0001 percent gets realised in global scales.
Question: should people who are unable to be vaccinated due to an underlying condition such as an allergy be disallowed from working with vulnerable people?
@Assburg: "I didn't get told about any risks when I got mine, I didn't sign a waiver. Second shot had to wait around for ten minutes after the fact, just in case I died."
Wow, poor you. How do you function as an adult in society? Where have you been that you aren't able to find information on the vaccines? Who on earth gets upset that people take the precaution of having them wait around for 10 minutes to ensure no allergic reaction which in a vanishingly small number of cases is going to require urgent care.
"0.0001 percent gets realised in global scales"
How about 3-5% mortality? How about 3,385,328 deaths world-wide and plenty of evidence that is actually a gross under-estimate?
"Question: should people who are unable to be vaccinated due to an underlying condition such as an allergy be disallowed from working with vulnerable people?"
YES. They must find a job that doesn't involve risking other people's lives. What a bizzare question. Do you also think blind people shouldn't be excluded from being commercial pilots!? Oh noes! Their Fahreeedoom!
@syousef: Have you studied any history, or political philosophy beyond the scope of pure Marxism or what you see on Reddit?
"Where have you been that you aren't able to find information on the vaccines?"
Bro I found the info, I looked at incidences of AstraZenecca deaths around the world that the government refused to acknowledge, and so I made sure I got Pfizer.
"Who on earth gets upset that people take the precaution of having them wait around for 10 minutes…"
In case I wasn't clear before, I was just surprised that was the only measure they sought to implement. Why are you upset?
"How about 3-5% mortality? How about 3,385,328 deaths world-wide…."
Yet, that is 3-5 percent of vulnerable populations. Having personally broken down the data available, Ianded at about 0.02% of under 50s. That still includes those with unidentified or undisclosed comorbidities and people unable to access healthcare… This is what I mean by…don't just eat up the talking head statistics.
"YES. They must find a job that doesn't involve risking other people's lives…."
This is another soyboy fallacy my dude. You ever see GATTACA? If someone completely blind has trained and learnt to fly a passenger jet, which I imagine is possible with accurate verbal readouts of instruments and GPS, from take off to, to land, to taxing to the terminal, he or she is certainly the best pilot to grace the face of the earth. I'd gladly ride in their plane.
Anyway, peace out homie. Think of me when you lie on your tax return in the next couple months.
@Assburg: "Have you studied any history, or political philosophy beyond the scope of pure Marxism or what you see on Reddit?"
Oh the irony! Do you know about the various plagues in human history that have been much worse than this? The plague of children? Wikipedia has a list of plagues you might want to check out.
" about 0.02% of under 50s"
First, nope. Your figure is completely oof
And second oh well that's okay then. If it's just over 50s dying let them?"Why are you upset?"
Yeah I wonder.
"This is another soyboy fallacy my dude"
Yeah how dare I believe that you don't have the right to take a job that results in people dying. I am such a "soyboy".
"You ever see GATTACA?"
Yep I sure have and I really love that movie. Pity you seem to have missed the point of it. Now have you heard of Typhoid Mary?
"If someone completely blind has trained and learnt to fly a passenger jet, which I imagine is possible with accurate verbal readouts of instruments and GPS"
Wow! Just wow. How do I compete with such ignorance. You can keep imagining but large commercial passenger jets aren't nearly as automated as you assume and they could not be safely operated by a blind person. There's a reason that pilots undergo regular physical exams. You're clearly living in a fantasy world.
"Anyway, peace out homie. Think of me when you lie on your tax return in the next couple months."
I'm not your homie and I'm not a thief thank you very much.
@syousef: "do you know any the plagues that have been worse than this"
Yes that's why I really don't care about this one and think it's a good example of governments infringing on rights and exploiting their fears.
I don't think you understand what 'verbal readout' or 'GPS' means so let me elaborate.
The earth is mapped using a series of lines, up ways and sideways. Whilst it's mathematically a little complicated because earth round, you can approximate small section, such as airports as flat (though maybe Beijing airport would be pushing this approximation).
One can then memorise the sets of coordinates for where they can and cannot go, and navigate on bearings and speed, corrected by occasional GPS readings without a window.
As for flying a plane, take off, well you just need to implement Microsoft narrator in a way that's not too annoying. "Direction 36.3⁰, speed 120.4.knots, altitude 6000 ft" etc. Not sure if you're tracking but flying by instrument is a pretty important skill for pilots…. It's not automation.
@Assburg: "Yes that's why I really don't care about this one and think it's a good example of governments infringing on rights and exploiting their fears."
Tell that to the familes of the 3.3M people who've lost loved ones so far.
"I don't think you understand what 'verbal readout' or 'GPS' means so let me elaborate."
I don't think you understand that being condescending doesn't strengthen your argument. I spent years heavily into playing flight simulators, flying R/C models before drones were cool, and I have family in aviation. I promise you're only at the start of your Dunning-Kruger journey.
"As for flying a plane, take off, well you just need to implement Microsoft narrator"
You really are taking the Mickey now aren't you. Tell me that you understand what it takes to certify a product in aviation, and why that is, and that you're just trolling at this point.
I didn't think you could outdo yourself using Gattaca as an example - a movie about a guy who goes to extremes to beat a dystopian society that casts aside people for things about themselves that they can't change - while simultaneously dismissing as trivial the deaths of an entire group of people - the elderly - who can't change that about themselves. But well done. Your lack of knowledge about aviation is breath-taking.
Who was it that said to those that understand nothing, everything is a plausible conspiracy?
@syousef: So, innoculate everyone with what you admit is an experimental, 'approvals rushed' kinda product so boomers can go to cafes?
Is that what this legitimately boils down to for you?
@Assburg: "So, innoculate everyone with what you admit is an experimental, 'approvals rushed' kinda product so boomers can go to cafes?"
Lovely straw man combined with reductio ad absurdum there. The entire economy impacted and you focus on "boomers" going to cafes?
You are trolling. There's no other rational explanation.
Hawkiss, rape in minister's office, parliament house jacking off scandal, mascot towers and other unregulated industries, defence submarine debacle, indigenous baby mortality rates, ruby princess, lease of Darwin port, security guard scandal in Victoria, undisclosed holiday to Hawaii during bush fire emergency, let's maintain military relations with brunei for as long as possible, get AstraZenecca totally safe whooops disregard you might die so just let the elderly get it, that dude who got 100k in an LV bag, fake drivers licence Casanova from Tassie
Isn't that the words to "We didn't start the fire" by Billy Joel?
r/CovidVaccinated is an eye-opening look into the under reported and severely suppressed accounts of adverse reactions/side effects to vaccines including long-haul, post-vaccination syndromes that seem to persist for months after vaccination, in an identical manner to the "long COVID" phenomenon.
Yes, there's some confirmation bias at play there and people are only inclined to post there after suffering intense side effects and health complications post-vaccination, but the sheer number of horror stories on there is eye-opening and very much contrary to the spin given by media coverage on the vaccine roll-outs thus far.
This thread here is a pretty lengthy and interesting one, given how many people also share the OP's predicament and echo their concerns about when these side-effects and symptoms will clear up.
The other under-reported and highly unusual phenomena in vaccine side-effects is bizarre changes to female menstrual cycles, sometimes lasting more than a month, which you can see plenty of reports about on r/CovidVaccinated and in mainstream articles as well. There are even anecdotal reports of women experiencing menstrual cycle disruptions and even miscarriages after merely being in the presence of vaccinated individuals for a period of time, who had severe reactions to the vaccines.
The other curious oddity that people have noticed, is that many of these intense and prolonged side effects reported after COVID vaccinations are extremely similar to the intense side-effects that were reported in the past after swine flu vaccinations.
@Gnostikos: Reading through those posts from people with bad reactions makes me truly frightened at how far the government would be willing to go to force us to take the jab. The only way they'll jab me is without a heartbeat but if it gets to the point of permanently restricting the right to travel, work, or shop then it's only a matter of time until we seriously start to risk a civil unrest from people.
The vaccine exemptions would likely only apply to people with serious conditions that can directly be related to a large risk of death (ie those with allergies or immune compromised). Alas, by the sounds of it, anyone with a slightly sensitive system or proneness to inflammation/depression is at a risk of getting utterly trainwrecked.
There are even anecdotal reports of women experiencing menstrual cycle disruptions and even miscarriages after merely being in the presence of vaccinated individuals for a period of time, who had severe reactions to the vaccines
What's the rate of these events?
Or, in other words, I've heard anecdotal reports of miscarriages after being in the presence of a newspaper.
Same here with the AZ, felt tired the next day but ok to go to work
Under 30 and AZ gave me 16 hours of headache, fever and back pain. I slept most of it off.
16 hours of headache, fever and back pain
thanks for the warning. Looking forward to annual booster shots for rest of your life?
Of course. Giving and receiving vaccines is fun.
Is that how you look now on the profile pic after shot?
No. Now i'm not that happy!
How do you feel after hearing the phrase "Execute order 66" now? ;)
had to google that. Not sure what it refers to lol
Revenge of the Sith quote which spawned a 1000 memes ;)
200,000 memes ready with a million more on the way
The final book in the Bible, Revelation, also happens to be number 66. Something about a Mark and the Antichrist in there.
How about Kill the Malaysian Prime Minister?
Zoolander!
That phrase does nothing. He's N-13…
Raymond Reddington…
What are the circumstances that qualified you for the Pfizer vaccine?
I am working for a hospital as a trainer. Got told to fill out a "survey" to register our interest. I did it for the sh*t and giggle since I'm not front line and we're a private hospital.
Was quite shock when the invitation came through the email. Was even more shock when I accepted the invitation, it gives me less than 12 hours for the next appointment.
You have to do a "survey" to win a shot? That's a bit dodgy. In my state ALL healthcare workers and related fields 18+ can get it.
yeah the CEO sent out an email with the survey which link to the expression of interest. I find it weird because I'm not even a healthcare worker, I just happen to work in a hospital.
@tomleonhart: Everyone who works in a healthcare setting regardless of role should be vaccinated as there's an increased risk of exposure. I'm not a nurse or doctor but I am required to go where people are tested/treated for COVID, operating theatres and other areas. Obviously a bigger risk for me than every day people.
@afoveht: There hasn't been a local case of COVID for 12 months in my state. There hasn't been a quarantine hotel COVID case since December. So would you agree that someone who goes in areas where people are tested and treated for COVID would be at a higher chance of getting it than those who do not, or work in healthcare? AKA in this instance, every day people who work outside of healthcare.
@afoveht: I will say it again. In this instance every day people refer to those who work outside of healthcare.
Maybe stop trying to twist and change people's words. Especially when quoting out of context when the context has been given.
@Clear: I quoted your words verbatim, and included context in the same sentence. Just trying to say you probably picked the wrong words. Whatever.
increased risk of exposure
Also you're near vulnerable people (patients in hospital) and you'd want to have less chance of giving it to them
@Quantumcat: Correct. That's how one of the biggest outbreaks here occurred resulting in the ADF taking over the management of a hospital after a deep clean while the staff were isolated and retrained.
Got 5G yet?
No we burnt down all the tower in our area.
say whaaat? just by walking up close to a tower it started to self combust?
It's a reference to earlier in 2020 where people burned down 5G towers
Had both the Covid-19 (2x) and the influenza vaccine as I work in Healthcare. Too many hearsays about how worst the second dose was, all I can say is 'HAHA'. Influenza vaccine caused more pain on my arm than the 2x Covid-19 vaccine.
Lucky you. I don't normally have any problem with the flu vaccine but this thing was nasty, even just after the first shot!
My wife was vomiting on her first dose but none (zero) side effect on the second dose.
Oh yeah I did have that vomiting feeling too. 🤞the second dose won’t be too bad. Got a party the day after.
I had almost all the symptoms from my first az dose… not looking forward to number 2
Nasty as in the discomfort of getting the shot, or the side-effects?
The side effects. I didn’t even feel the needle going in.
My wife is the same.
She's a nurse, had 2xPfizer maybe two months ago. No real impact except some arm soreness.
Had the flu shot just recently and had arm soreness PLUS swollen glands and slight lethargy.I've had flu, and both shots of Pfizer. No issues other than tenderness in my arm. The most painful part was waiting in the waiting room after my shots!
Can you get autism twice?
Yes. Where do you think all the politicians come from?
Are you still alive?