Great price for a follow up book to the "Silent Invasion" by the same author. This time focusing on wider, global scope.
'Click'. Strapping in for the ride…
China was salty about not being allowed to build the 5g network. Yeh no wonder, China “gifted” the African Union a headquarters building and then allegedly bugged it for state secrets.
Yeah yeah the US does similar but they don't randomly ban a bunch of imports when called out on it. Also their values are closer to Australia's compared to the CCP
If we didn't ban 5g the Chinese would be thinking damn these Aussies are stupid xD
How about Australian government? We don't gift them the building yet also bugged them. We also prosecute those whistle blower who exposed us. 😎🤔🧐
So pot and kettle are calling each other black 😏
P.S: and our government want more 😂😎
China doesn't spend billions on war, free buildings better option!
how much does China spend on the military?
Haha exactly, Chinese are going to reap what they sow soon, time for the popcorn when the Liaoning gets sunk!
the US does similar
the US does similar
They sure do. They randomly banned Huawei and ZTE, had the CEO of Huawei locked up for no reason (since it was HSBC that broke the law in that case but they had zero repercussions), not to mentioned the multinational pressure they have exerted to get Assange for facilitating nothing more than the truth. Whether you are in the US, China or Australia, the government you need to watch out for is your own
Ooh man comments section better not disappoint.
Do we have CCP shills here at OzBargain?
They're everywhere, their machine never slows down. I'm shocked when I don't see negative comments for something that isn't glowing praise for anything that is China/Chinese/CCP related.
Scotty and the mods are secretly working for the CCP, OzBargain is their plan to peddle a Chinese narrative and conquer Australia and then the world 🌏
@Wystri Warrick: No wonder there's so many Xiaomi products on here… It's a conspiracy!
What happened to the old days when we would regularly get shafted by deal extreme, and wanted more RAM in our Ainol
Need more Wumao bargains
You could buy several of those sofa covers that showed up here on the weekend for your 50c.
I think they are people that don't fully subscribe to this crazy new media war against China. There's no nuance allowed in this world anymore.
GTF outta here with your commonsense. There are only two kinds of people in this world, CCP shills and ASPI shills.
It’s kind of an overreaction right now, but that happens when things are thrown out of balance.
China watchers and democratically-minded expats have been trying to raise concern about Xi Jinping since soon after he came to power, but nobody listened outside of academia.
Now, the public has come to realise that this isn’t the China of Jiang and Hu, have had a panic attack, and the pendulum has swung to the other side.
Meanwhile, those who were paying attention all along are saying “calm down people, we’ve been raising this concern for years, but there’s no need to lose your minds”.
China is acting in an adversarial manner right now, but part of diplomacy is knowing how and when to deal with adversaries.
5 downvoters so far. At least I'm helping to track numbers :)
lol, the 50c Army
Perfect book for the contemporary Australian. Donald Trump should also write a book himself "China, China, China, China, China, China…"
I found the CCP member ^
Everyones a CCP member in the west. Wow I'm getting almost 10 downvotes…never knew people here are so sensitive about being contemporary.
It's because you spelt it wrong, it's Chi-nah!
It's spelt "Jina"
First name, Va
Trump's favourite victims.
China bad. Blame china. If you dun agree you brainwashed lmao
Thanks for the covid China!
So organ harvesting is good? Or burning people alive? Or how about correction camps and then 4 years of free labor to make sure the correction worked. Or just slaughtering people because of their religion. Consider yourself educated
Pathetic brain washed or dead evil people obviously. Try not to open the brain and chucked in whatever.
I'm pretty sure you're being ironic here, so here's an upvote.
I do love how these books completely ignore history and context…
Boomers in the 80s/90s/00s - "Let's sell out by shipping our labour and manufacturing overseas so we can make an extra dollar in profit"
Boomers in the present - "China has too much power and is a threat"
To be fair, the boomers in the 80s, 90s and 00s aren't necessarily the same boomers in the present. they'll be at least 15 years older than the current generation.
Capitalism baby~! Self-interest is an animal instinct.
boomers are the same age group. ie postwar 'boom' gen
there's no such thing as 'boomers of the 90s" or 'boomers of 2020" in the same way millenials are what they are and gen X or gen Y is what they are
he's correct though
china is where its at because western capitalism made them that way
and further i would say that china is how it is because what happened to them in ww2
millenials are what they are and gen X or gen Y is what they are
millenials are what they are and gen X or gen Y is what they are
Do you reckon it's possible that person's worldview, values and ideology changes as people get older? Dont see yourself as a "boomer of the future"? : )
@Catut: It certainly does change when you get older.
@Catut: it doesnt matter how I see myself or by my changing ideals
its how society places me due to my birthdate, that is all, it doesnt matter if i disagree with it
The breakdown by age looks like this:
Baby Boomers: Baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. They're currently between 57-75 years old (71.6 million in the U.S.)
Gen X: Gen X was born between 1965 and 1979/80 and is currently between 41-56 years old (65.2 million people in the U.S.)
Gen Y: Gen Y, or Millennials, were born between 1981 and 1994/6. They are currently between 25 and 40 years old (72.1 million in the U.S.)
Gen Y.1 = 25-29 years old (around 31 million people in the U.S.)
Gen Y.2 = 29-39 (around 42 million people in the U.S.)
Gen Z: Gen Z is the newest generation, born between 1997 and 2012/15. They are currently between 6 and 24 years old (nearly 68 million in the U.S.)
@tonyjzx: Very educational, thanks. A bit fatalistic though, I'd say it should matter to you, who you really are, not what label society placed on you by your birthdate, no?
I am not denying the existence of those labels, but they are just demographic terms, we dont have to confirm to them (unless we want to).
@Catut: conform to what? your birthdate?
then what the hell is a "30 year old boomer"?
what the hell is a "30 year old boomer"?
what the hell is a "30 year old boomer"?
@idonotknowwhy: it's a dumb internet meme
Yeah its a bit of a reap what you sow.
None the less its still true that the concentration of manufacturing and technology in one state with crazy leadership is an increasingly dangerous thing (even when Trump was in charge of the US he didn't hold much influence over the technology companies).
Its only 'crazy' now though. In the past the CCP had more moderate leaders… Hu Jintao, Zhang Zemin (spl) and its only under the current guy things have gotten the way it is. In the same way things were 'ok' under Clinton and Obama. See how the US mirrors China and other countries I guess. Once leadership falls in a certain direction things can go awry…
But yes, industry sought to get the cheapest supplier and keep that cut of the margin and screw everything else but really what else is new?
Look how the tsmc, samsung and texas cpu issues came to a head and thats nothing to do with china.
I always thought Xi's aggressive stance is due to past policies in China catching up to CCP. The whole "wolf warrior" tactic is like a facade to maintain stability (thus keep CCP in power) in China, due to the growing concern of low birth rate, aging poverty populations and terrible geolocation on Earth.
PolyMatter had a whole series on this which explains the issue within China, https://youtu.be/vTbILK0fxDY
So I wouldn't say it's purely on a particular leadership direction, more like, short sighted policies got China to this point and this is the card he's dealt with, so in "self-interest", this is what he has to do. (even if it meant stepping over others)
In a way, this new world conflict is inevitable as one might say. As well as the next one… and the next one… and the next one… all in the name of, self-interest~
@shattered: This is true as well but it could be levied at Putin and even Netanyahu recently.
@shattered: Xi is fantastic. At least we know what his agenda is before China became too powerful for Australia and other countries to contain. His incompetence in managing covid and the belt initiative have led to the world turning against China. Great days.
'the book is not a balanced, scholarly document. The narrative centres on a single-minded Communist Party that has always sought a Leninist world and is now taking advantage of its increased economic power to advance that objective more effectively.'
'There is little recognition of the huge shifts in Chinese economic, social and strategic policies over the past 50 years, or of the scale of the changes to its institutional arrangements and the role of government.'
The authors also do not allow those in the West who they claim have been successfully (and naively) influenced the opportunity to respond, let alone to present evidence of their influence in the other direction.'
What we're seeing from China is cause and effect, the US is the cause and China is the effect. China has learnt the game from the West and now they are playing it and beating the West - albeit with far less war than the West.
An insightful doco
You get your geopolitical perspective from The Conversation?
ye what a loser, I get all my geopol analysis from ozb comment section
just plenty of human rights violations to uighurs
Think you're blaming the wrong people …replace boomers with neo-cons, the banking cartel, venture capitalists, the usual short sighted greedy mo-fo's.
Where did China get all the "money" from to go from virtually nothing to the second dominant country in the world.
All aided and abetted by all western neo-con governments; closing our manufacturing bases, opening up our markets with world trade agreements, turning the economy into ones reliant on the service industries.
Anyway, the financiers are finding India is cheaper and starting the same modus operandi there; you'll start to find more and more products labelled "made in India".
Unless of course if in the meantime, there's a war over Taiwan or Tibetan borders (that profits the MIC).
True. These days though I think Boomer represents a type based on more than just age. Sex Party voting hippie boomers really ain't so much. Young Liberals are moreso.
Deng Xiaoping laid the foundations of the modern Chinese economy with just about every current important policy being created and passed under his watch in the 1980s:
Most of those policies didn't start to create big changes until a decade or more after their creation.
But now you've got Winnie winding back most of them and trying to be President for life like Putin and his oligarch cronies.
But yeah its two-sides of the same coin I guess. China devalued their own labour and markets with policies, and NeoCon scum decided to exploit them for a tiny percentage to make outrageous profits.
I used to be a big fan of Ronald Reagan - until I started studying economics and realised his policies started the mass offshoring of US industry - that really helped China become what it is today. The rest of the west followed suite and here we are.
indeed, thinking western influence and ideals can cause social change in a place like China is misguided. The student did rise up but was swiftly quashed during Tiananmen Square massacre, that set an example didn't it
Unfortunately everyone, even lots of people here, are the same. Just go for what's cheap. Quality isn't rewarded in general, by any generation.
Have you actually read books on this though? It's hardly left out or not mentioned, in fact it's often brought up as key factor for how we got to this point.
The history goes back much further than that. The CCP is still out for blood from the humiliation they endured (and still feel) from the opium wars.
So much of what we're dealing with now goes way back to colonial times and the Great British Empire.
But yes, China was essentially handed this power by those from the 80s onwards who only wanted to make a quick buck. Plus the whole lie about how if we embrace China we can influence them (in terms of human rights, etc).
At the end of the day, China's been playing 4D Chess while the rest of the world was playing rock, paper, scissors (because our governments don't even have the attention span for tic-tac-toe).
And of course, this has all been exacerbated by Winnie the Pooh, who is basically doing 'a Putin' and turning the whole country into his own personal kingdom.
"completely ignore history and context"
Have you read it? The title looks like Sebago-style click-bait, however:
Clive Hamilton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Hamilton
Clive Charles Hamilton AM FRSA (born 12 March 1953) is an Australian public intellectual and Professor of Public Ethics at the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics (CAPPE) and the Vice-Chancellor's Chair in Public Ethics at Charles Sturt University. He is a member of the Board of the Climate Change Authority of the Australian Government, and is the Founder and former Executive Director of The Australia Institute. He regularly appears in the Australian media and contributes to public policy debates. Hamilton was granted the award of Member of the Order of Australia on 8 June 2009 for "service to public debate and policy development, particularly in the fields of climate change, sustainability and societal trends"
On 23 October 2009, Hamilton was announced as the Australian Greens candidate for the by-election in the federal seat of Higgins. He ran against nine others for the seat, and came second, receiving 32.40 percent of primary votes and 39.77 percent of preferred votes.
As a free-enterprise neo-liberal RWNJ prone to banging war-drums, he's sure played a blinder as a sleeper…
Theres a difference between selling out labour and manufacturing to other countries and other countries government policies interference or dictatorship like issues. We have sold out labour and manufacturing to lots of other countries.
The only thing the boomers are to blame for is starting the trend of blaming all of the world’s issues on older generations.
Screw you boomers 🖕
This book is about how China wields its power, written by a leftist academic who never supported offshoring.
Completely missed the mark.
Just here to see the wumao comments 😀
A book about Communism should be free…
Yes, but it always ends up freer for some than others.
That's the basic problem
a book "promoting" communism from a "communist" should be free… This is written by an Aussie author.. shouldn`t he profit? The Author is banned from China…
Shouldn't it be the same price for everyone?
News is free, if you want to learn about all kinds of “threats” from CCP. I can’t see how this is a good deal.
Can be had at the same price at Booktopia and from Catch (Fulfilled by Booktopia).
What's not right about a country that has 25% of the world population to have some impacts?
If India is not an American puppet controlled by a group of high-class elites, it should have a similar impact.
same as USA, no difference
Not really "hidden" or "silent" anymore lol
[obligatory disclosure saying I'm Chinese so no one thinks I'm a racist…unless you can be racist against your own race?]
Eh…technically, racist can be against your own race :p
For example, Hong Kongers.
Since the CCP murdered tens of millions of Chinese in the Cultural Revolution and the great leap forward and assisted the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia while they were murdering Chinese then doesn't that make the CCP racist? All Hong Kongers are asking for is not to be murdered and sexually abused in prison camps because of their political beliefs. Am I missing something?
@Icecold5000: Yeah, all the "facts" you learned from the western media and those who allowed to speak on western media. Ok I am a CCP spy since I speak for it lol.
@phoenixpan: To seek out more facts, should Icey, and the rest of us, be looking to the Chinese (state) media?
@phoenixpan: I actually learned them from history books and academic journals. You know, the ones that don’t allow in China.
@Icecold5000: How about hearing from Chinese people (from the mainland) and other small private media (blog, social media)? If CCP is so ruthless and suppressing, the 1.4 billion people are just bearing with it like sheep? Do you think they all stupid or cowardly?
It's actually a shame that people from Hong Kong and Taiwan can make a louder voice through the western system, and many of them have better English communication ability, whereas mainlanders are marked as CCP spies or brainwashed, and ignored. I am not arguing whether the information you learned now is true or false but we have to admit the information available to the rest of the world is filtered and potentially heavily biased. Do you think it's normal for the U.S. to compose a law to support "human rights issues" in China? What if the target changes to Aboriginal Australians? It's just not right.
I see many people try to learn more about China but all the information they got is from the side sources because the state media is indeed doggy sometimes. I'd recommend CGTN, at least they made some pretty good documentaries.
@phoenixpan: So I guess that walled off internet is a figment of my imagination then? I guess the CCP be scared of something.
@Icecold5000: Not everyone is walled. Those who know what they are doing can reach out. Technically they can be banned easily but they are not. The wall is to block those who are not even aware of what they are doing.
I think CCP is scared of foreign influence. Most people are simple, they believe in things easily without too much thinking. If everything is opened up, CCP is not confident to win the war of information and propaganda. At least I don't think it stands a chance against the west - you can tell from the losing trends right in this post. The West has played this game with so many other competitors, none of them won. CCP will also lose if it does nothing.
However, the West has seen this and there are already a lot of paid people/NGOs spreading various words in China. They are getting believers. So the reversed "50 cents".
@phoenixpan: Agree on the evils of foreign influence. Thankfully our parliament passed the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme Act 2018 which the CCP protested about quite vocally for some reason. Hopefully now that the CCP has shown its true colours we can use this legislation to cleanse Australia of harmful elements and fifth columnists seeking to subvert our country by infiltrating our institutions and corrupt our society.
@Icecold5000: Ah I see, you don't want the truth, you just want to curse, never mind. Keep hearing the "facts" that you want to believe and follow your media :)
@phoenixpan: CCP supporters are never truthful, they only want to perpetuate lies to blind us to the true nature of this degenerate entity. Thats why the CCP is afraid of truth, because it reveals them for what they are, a genocidal oligarchy intent on threatening and bullying smaller countries into submission. At least now both main parties are awake to the nature of the threat Australia faces.
@Icecold5000: "threatening and bullying smaller countries into submission. At least now both main parties are awake to the nature of the threat Australia faces."
That sounds like the U.S. to me lol.
When you talked about influence, you mean things like "Australian Strategic Policy Institute" is built by the U.S.? It's like Australia is opening its legs wide open to American daddy while it cannot sit down to have a proper discussion with China. That's influence.
@Icecold5000: Being racists is not the solution, my guy.
@Peterdicky: These filthy fifth columnists and foreign subversive elements are defined only by their intent to corrupt Australia by infiltration not by race. If the degenerate CCP stops trying to undermine our country then they will be forgiven. Home Affairs should definitely start looking at deporting anyone who is a member of or has family who belong to this Anti-Australian organisation just like Biden will.
@Icecold5000: Is that you, Joe McCarthy?
@jackspratt: One could take this view if one was to ignore the thousands of cyber hacking attempts carried out by CCP intelligence agencies, attempt to bribe our politicians, coercion of Chinese language media as well as frequent threats by CCP controlled media against Australia.
Of course if one were to ignore these facts what would it make that person? Certainly not someone who was loyal to their country
@Icecold5000: Don't pretend you care about Chinese people or their human rights, you are just a hater, racist, and afraid of China. Simple.
@phoenixpan: At least we know where your loyalties lie.
@Icecold5000: Loyalty…lol it's 2021!
Go ahead and find more enemies and enjoy your life with endless conflicts.
@phoenixpan: Nice to know you don’t view loyalty as a desirable or even necessary trait.
@Icecold5000: My loyalty is to myself, my friends, and my family. Not the political shits you seem to value a great deal.
It must be a pain for you to live in the world nowadays, right?