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Penfolds Grange 2009 Shiraz 750ml Bottle $689.90 + Delivery ($0 C&C) @ Dan Murphy's (Membership Required)

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$10 more than this price from a few months ago

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/616249

up to 5% cheaper with discounted gift cards

"Insert drinking expensive wine during covid lockdown for victorians joke here" because I cant think of one

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  • +2 votes

    only idiots will buy this. (no offence)

    • +25 votes

      "Only poor people will say this (no offence)"

      • -5 votes

        I'm not poor but I think this is a stupid and idiotic use of money so your blanket statement is wrong.

        • -1 vote

          I'm not an idiot and I would buy this. Guess your blanket statement is wrong too?

        • +2 votes

          In a way you have a point arcticmonkey
          Grange was $120 dollars a bottle before the hype, now its 8 times that.

          Its literally $700 of label for a $150 odd wine
          Yes its good
          But its more wank value when you whip it out at a dinner party.

          Still
          I'd still buy one as a high yield investment
          Just one though

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          If you haven't bought something that some wowser like you thinks is a stupid and idiotic use of money, are you really living?

    • +3 votes

      On behalf of idiots everywhere, I’m offended.

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    Thanks. Bought 100.

    • +1 vote

      Big gain from Crypto?

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        Not after the ATO comes knocking

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          Does anyone remember the days before Paul Keating, when this at a business lunch would have been fully tax deductible.

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      wow you must be rich …

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    I have a bottle of 96’ Grange Hermitage that I’d like to sell. It’s not easy to sell due to rules. Does anyone know how to sell wine?

    • +1 vote

      Contact https://www.langtons.com.au/, though they may not be interested if only a single bottle

    • +1 vote

      if in melbourne como cellars toorak ….they give you langtons auction price less the commission, so same end money except no waiting …..

    • +1 vote

      I tried via eBay got a 3 day ban 🙄

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    Is there honestly any difference in taste between a bottle of this and a nice $20 bottle?

    I would love to blind taste test everyone that says 'yes'.

    • +6 votes

      u feel lighter when u drink it
      700 bucks lighter

    • +5 votes

      I'm happy to do a blind test, bring grange I'll bring a 3 buck Aldi bottle

      • +1 vote

        Yes. I'll bring the aldi bottle for you to sample and I will sample the grange and we can let each other know if we can taste the difference. I also have a spumante, don't suppose you have a
        DOM to bring along to test both white and red varietals.

    • +1 vote

      You want to taste me?

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        I said Yes, I don't want him to taste me either

    • +3 votes

      If you have to ask this question, then the wine isn't for you.

      I went drinking with some people who really knew their wine. Walked away with a much better ability to taste differences, and even then I don't think I could appreciate a Grange.

      If you can't tell the difference then stick to cheap wines. You will save yourself alot of money and get the same enjoyment.

    • +1 vote

      yes it is different to a $20 bottle, but not different to a $100 bottle … best way to taste is penfolds hold taste evenings typically $100 and you get to taste most of their flag ship wines inc grange, last grange clinic was $120.

      vintage cellars had it on tasting in 2020 before melb lockdown …..

      it’s not unicorn blood, they make it every year and lots of it and use the brand to sell a lot of their lower wines

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      Had it in barossa, compared to their BIN 389 "baby grange/poor mans grange" tasted identical to it - except smoother.

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      Not even so called experts can tell the difference

      https://youtu.be/mVKuCbjFfIY

      • -2 votes

        I'm no expert but I can tell the difference between credible research and simplistic, populist bs on youtube. Taste is highly subjective, as your choice of "evidence" shows.

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          If you actually watched the video you'll see that 90% of it is citing and discussing actual studies.

          • +1 vote

            @Autonomic: I've perused the study. It says exactly the opposite of what you suggested : "Our data also indicates that experts, unlike non-experts, on average assign as high – or higher – ratings to more expensive wines. The coefficient on the
            expert*price interaction term is positive and highly statistically significant…..For individuals with wine training, however, we find indications of a positive relationship between price and enjoyment." In other words, (according to their study) experts CAN tell the difference.

            That said the study falls at the first hurdle - the assumption that all wines of a certain type are made to a formula (ie will essentially have similar characteristcs is complete nonsense. Hence individual taste becomes the main determinant. On top of that the notion that an artificial blind taste test is a good test of wine quality or taste is contentious to say the least.

            Wine is primarily made for enjoyment with food and for socialising and people's reactions to wine taste is undoubtedly affected by many things - the experience/occasion, food, company etc etc. While it's impossible to generalise because tastes differ and there are so many different wines of hugely varying quality, from my experience most wine drinkers can more often than not easily pick cheapies from more expensive versions of the same wine type. The bigger the price gap the easier the job, but not in all cases.

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              @Possumbly: That was all covered in the video.

              There are plenty of other studies in that video.

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                @Autonomic: If it was all covered then why did you get it so wrong with your throw away comment? The whole point of the video (not the study) was to suck in the ignorant, not to point out what the vast majority of wine drinkers already know - that price doesn't necessarily reflect quality, or value. The same can be applied to all manner of products and services. That shouldn't surprise anyone who didn't come down in the last shower, let alone someone who subscribes to OzB.

                From my experience no regular wine drinker would argue that price is always a good reflection of quality in the low to middle price range. Once you get to top notch wines you invariably pay a reputation and availability tax. Your choice then as to whether it's worth it. People in the industry often promote wines which are way below the price of others in the market.

  • +2 votes

    Would go well in a spag bog i reckon

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      Is that a remix of spag bol

  • +2 votes

    does it come in 4 litre goon bag?

    • +1 vote

      I think they only do it in a 2l sorry

      • +2 votes

        sad face

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    I drank like a Donk 1 of these and got stuck with sentiment or some crap on the bottom of the bottle that I think I should have tipped out .

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      Usually they will pour this into a decanter to leave the sediment in the bottle.

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        Whole bottle. Like a donk (had to look that up).

        Maybe popsiee did actually mean sentiment?

  • +1 vote

    Google “expensive wine is a waste of money” and you will see various links to articles pointing blind wine tastings show even the experts don’t know anything. Some blind tastings were tricky with the experts given the same wine more than once in the blind test, marking the same wine very differently.

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    Experts on blind test actually gave best price to Australian $10 wine over all others expensive ones.

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      Really? Got a link?

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    People buy old fords and holden's for even though they are completely crap to drive, all to say you have one. No different to a bottle of grange. Complete waste of money.

    • +3 votes

      If someone buys something that gives them enjoyment is it really a waste of money?

      • -2 votes

        if that something is $700+ and you can buy pretty much the same thing for $20-50 bucks…yes.
        Well…research shows when someone is told a wine is more expensive its generally more liked so maybe it IS worth lol

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    That reminds me I need to go to Aldi wine section tomorrow.

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    New Penfolds release in August so clearing old vintage. Bargain!

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    Bargain compared to this $1300 baby at Costco: https://www.costco.com.au/Wine-Spirits/Wine/Red-Wine/Chateau...

  • +1 vote

    I remember looking at the 1996 grange at Vintage Cellars in Neutral Bay in the early 00's selling for $595 bottle, today's value is $899 https://www.nicks.com.au/1996-penfolds-grange-hermitage?gcli..., but in those days $595 was more money than $899 today. I have tasted it and it is a great wine, whilst can afford it if I want ( not as a daily drink), but like Louis Vuitton bags who am I impressing by giving large sums of cash to a multibillion$ corporation? - there are some really great wines in the $50~$100 range

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    RBA calcuator (handy tool) says $595 in 2002 is worth $899 in 2020 so you're pretty spot on.

    It is a great wine, right down to the dregs, but I'm not forking out those $$$ either.