Hey Guys,
LOOKS LIKE IT WAS TAKEN DOWN!!!!…
Have a feeling it will be back up tomorrow Friday at 12pm…
Just saw this.. the NAS got my attention
http://www.onlinecomputer.com.au/product_info.php?products_i…
Review here(Thanks Helmuth)- http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-reviews/30800-seagate…
Thats's for the N440 model, not sure but i think the deal is for the N400 model which staticice show prices around the $450 mark… still a deal with the drives tho
Thanks updated
Hang on, it says "4TB (4x 2TB Seagate HDD) ".
So I guess the heading is correct and this point is wrong?
I can't seem to find it… does anyone know what CPU this has?
speed is 1.2 GHz if that helps.. don't know chip
Thanks :)
Found out it's a Marvell
Without hard drives it's only $456 at Harris Tech. Useful if you already have drives.
http://www.ht.com.au/part/Z0425-Seagate-BlackArmor-NAS-400-N…
Or $380 at B & H, + delivery of course. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/735499-REG/Seagate_STA…
hmm i wouldnt be getting something like this withought setting up redundancy, lot of data to loose if one drive packs it in…
not sure how you can set it up, but if you can raid 5/6 or mirror it might be a good idea…
it supports raid 0/1/5/10
Personally I just don't like the idea of having all my drives turned on at the same time and all at the mercy of one device telling it how to raid. A lightning strike could easily kill all the drives, these are also a very similar batch so both drives could fail at the same time.
I buy separate 2TB external hard drives and only have both of the mirrored hard drives on occasionally when mirroring them.
Raid is not a substitute for having a backup. If it's important you still need a backup system.
Edit: I know you understand this, just saying it my way :)
That's right, RAID will happily keep the filesystem RAIDed after you have done an accidental delete.
so get two raids
so get two raids
Exactly, a backup (spanning more than one drive) is just a another RAID. The only issue is the time the two RAIDs last sync'ed.
When you got 24 drives in a RAID, there's no "backup" tape/drive. The best you can do is activate (periodic) snapshots and have another same sized RAID (always) sync'ed.
I'm really not understanding the silly people who downvoted me.
The least you could do is comment but I'm guessing the downvote wasn't based on an educated decision.
Lemmings mate. One does it, so the others just follow suit… even if it makes no sense.
i didnt neg, i understand raid, but have no idea what u yapped on about.
Wasn't me. Your paragraph is not wrong, but argues for backup, as eDust wrote.
I believe the politically correct name is little people. Not Lemmings.
I read the smallnetbuilder review. It doesnot blow me away with trasnfer speed ~30gb/s. I get more than twice the throughput from my N36L microserver, 80gb/s+.
May not be a bad solution for slowish low maintenance nas perhaps, but won't drag me away from a n36l.
you mean 30MB/sec?
Yep, just to clarify for the newbies, Mb, not Gb, but comment still stands, slow for a nas.
What newbies? i think its just you.
Based on the review, i see that its 30MB/s (as yanman said), and not 30Mb/s (which is 8 times slower newbies)
I'm curious as to why people negged skyva for his comment. Is it because he inadvertently said 30GB/s? Or just because he compared it to the Microserver and said this Seagate one was slow?
Personally, if I was in the market for one of these devices I would appreciate this kind of info. Just because 30Mb/sec is fast enough for some, it may not be for others.
I get more than twice the throughput from my N36L microserver, 80gb/s+.
Yep, just to clarify for the newbies, Mb, not Gb, but comment still stands, slow for a nas.
My N36L running FreeNAS (ZFS RAID, 3 drives) is around 80MB/s, so, I'm sure that's what you meant. And yeah, (according to review) this Seagate is much slower.
Yes, that is what I meant, but was trying to reply at work and didn't spellcheck before sending.
My microserver with 3 2tb drives, no raid and win 7 gets 80MB/s to my 2nd pc over Gb lan, so it may be the server maxing out. Not sure what you need for streaming full HD mkv files but mine seems to cope well enough.
Seems crazy to market Gb lan and then struggle with a processor that cannot cope. WDTV live boxes do the same, slow transfer over "GB" lan. If the NAS is only 1tb then I can understand that slower transfers may be acceptable, but to have 4 bays and raid, then have restricted speeds is a bit silly.
Seems crazy to market Gb lan and then struggle with a processor that cannot cope
well, it's probably too much to expect it to saturate a Gb link.
If they only used an FE, that'd give them a maximum theoretical (ignoring MAC, IP, TCP and NFS/SMB overhead) 12.5Mb/s - far too low take to market. In quantity, there's no significant price difference between FE and Gb ports, so, no incentive to use FE regardless of practical throughput.
The fact is that N36L, FreeNAS and ZFS (with maximum RAM) is an unbeatable combination. (In practice, its only downfall is inability to dynamically increase existing ZFS Storage pool by adding disks, ala. Drobo.)
I have an N36L, 5 x 2TB drives in RAID-6, and I get around 80Mb/sec also. I'm not trying to brag, or to say this Seagate one is crap, I'm just stating the performance that I'm getting. 30Mb/sec is fast enough for some.
I think it's a pity that everything in the Seagate box has the capacity to deliver faster transfer speeds - e.g. the disks, disk controllers, LAN interface, etc .. but the only thing holding it back is the CPU.
@ noz;
I've got an N36L w/ 2x 2TB drives in a mirror and I get ~80Mb/s read and write speeds.. ;)
Product not found!
ditto
ditto that ditto
http://www.onlinecomputer.com.au/product_info.php?products_i…
was first -not- responding… later, it showed us a resource limit message
[possible] SCAM ALERT:
"Resource Limit Is Reached
The website is temporarily unable to service your request
as it exceeded resource limit. Please try again later."
What bona fide eStore would rely on a resource-limited web hosting plan?!?
We Say: Think & investigate before you buy from this place!
Onlinecomputer.com.au is a legit shop. Not only are they online but they've got a physical store too (or rather two, both in the Capitol Square shopping centre in Sydney).
Yep, I got one of the Seagate Goflex Home 3TB drives from OLC recently, outstanding service IMHO…ordered Saturday, arrived 7am Tuesday morning! :)
I ordered the 1tb Lacie desktop external HDD from these guys after seeing it advertised when I was checking out this deal http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/62954
Their preferred method of payment is Bank Transfer which is not uncommon but the bank account they listed bounced and I have received no reply from them for 3 days now after querying whether the details stated are correct.
In my opinion they are very disorganized or perhaps pulling a scam.
To the reply implying that because they have a bricks and mortar store that they are legit:
1. It doesn't mean they have any stock of the items to sell online at the listed prices - possible bait and switch
2. They might be too busy to attend to their online business
Buyer beware.
Their preferred method of payment is Bank Transfer
So in other words, you didn't pony up the extra $1.20 to use one of the safer methods that they do offer, like credit card or Paypal, right? :o
This is Ozbargain, we don't give away money if we don't have to. if it is a scam it is better not to deal at all.
Yeah it's OzBargain, not to be confused with OzTooStingyForYourOwnGood bro! :p
"Starts Tomorrow 12pm!"
http://www.onlinecomputer.com.au/images/STUNT-FRIDAY-BANNER.…
hmm i wonder what sort of drives it has, i cant find any further info on the device appart from that banner
Stunt friday banner????
So is this just a publicity stunt?
Looks like the took it down…
maybe wont be up till tommorow :<
Oh, this post is back…..i swear it was unpublished for a moment…
My bet is typo. They have the same nas without drives on sale for $599, and the nas with 12tb for $1800, so my guess is that the 8gb version should be around $1000+. Whoever put the 8gb version for $599 probably stuffed up and it has been pulled.
They have the price on their home page right there, 8GB NAS $599. I think its legit, just gotta wait till tomorrow.
To be honest not sure what I would do with 8TB, I struggle to fill 2TB atm.
I have 6TB of stuff at the moment. All thanks to SOPA im slowing down. Just ebay the parts and youll probably make a small profit
I realise that this is not the best NAS you can buy, but can someone show me a better one for $599?
Thecus N5200 - 5 bays, 1.8Ghz atom
Or build one of the HP Proliant Microservers and add in a raid card if you want serious RAID 5 performance.
Neither of which include drives…. That is the real bargain here.
I thought he just wanted to see what other units are out there, regardless of price.
But yes, this is a very good for the current prices of hard drives. Even the HP Microserver would come out atleast $100+ higher to configure the same capacity.
You won't find better, with this capacity, at the moment.
4x 2TB drives at the current prices are around the $500 mark.
And can anyone confirm if this is the 440 or 400 model?
I guess you are asking if the drives are included, since that's the only difference I can see from the Seagate pages. Doesn't the 8TB imply they are included? (Not sure myself.)
Sorely tempted
Came into the post just to dribble in awe!
Hi, guys, what you do with 8TB hard drive? I never filled up my 1TB. movie? video editor? or use as a server?
i know people with this much movies. people who need 1080p.
If u cant fill up a 1TB, this isnt for you.
storage for all my 720p home movies.
Ripping bluray movies to disk, so I can stream them from any device I want.
1080p TV Shows can range between 1.5GB to 9GB per episode.
My 2TB is nearly full and its growing quickly…
AVC rips go from 30-50GB a movie. Plus people who have tons of movies on Blu-Ray that want it on a digital library instead
1 word: Porn
Do want.
I fear a COTD style server crash looming at midday tomorrow.
Hah yeah…
Goodluck all! :D
Website down. "Resource Limit Is Reached". Who would have guessed?
Do you reckon it will be limited to 1 per person??
Yep - it is 1 per person for the 8tb NAS and the 3tb drives…
I would really love one of these NAS…
Great price, wish I had an excuse to buy it!
It's a bargain. What more do you need?
It's not a bargain if the money could have been used to buy other things you really wanted/needed.
Exactly, I just got a 3 terrier-byte goflex home so I'm kinda flush for network space ATM. So, as great a deal as this seems, I simply can't justify it myself, let alone get it past the little 'finance minister'! ;)
Any other good reviews about it? what is the read and write speed? any one using it? hows there experience.. i am currently using the micro server as my nas/htpc with 22TB+12TB drives on it+1Gb video card+8GB Ram.. is this one any better in terms of read/write speed? power consumption, sound etc… micro server is bit noisy now, i can hear its running
OMG Ozbargain is NOT GOOD for the marriage, never mind the bank balance!!!
This looks like a pretty sweet deal tho, with HDD prices the way they are nowadays.
Must … Resist…
Well you'll be happy to know that hard drive prices are falling fairly rapidly. Should be back to pre-flood values within a month or 2.
Before you all jump on this offer, read some of the reviews this unit has on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BlackArmor-Network-Attached-ST…
Scary stuff!
Those amazon reviews have put me off buying this NAS. Sounds like the software is really buggy. Has anyone had any first hand experience with this product or know what the '3-year Limited Warranty' doesn't cover?
I am ripping out the hard disks and selling that NAS !
so… false advertising?
It's slowing down!
i still cant get to the actually product page i can see the 4TB model but get:
Resource Limit Is Reached
The website is temporarily unable to service your request as it exceeded resource limit. Please try again later.
Original link is now working, 40 for post. Still cheap I guess.
Also 5900RPM drive, assuming green.
EDIT: You can get the drives separate for <100. so that leaves the NAS @ about 200. Meh, retails for 300ish.
Not as cheap as I thought.
nevermind it must have just been because ozbargainers have been hammering the site :P
the link to the page now works, pity about shipping costs…
Its meant to be free shipping according to the ad
its up now. bought it. at least the site was still loadable and went to paypal with no hiccups.
pity the HDD are 5900rpm but it will do :)
5900rpm drives.
SOLD OUT
Complete hoax - sold out in 3 mins - couldnt get the page to load…
It isn't that cheap really. No lose in my opinion. Especially regarding majority of the reviews.
http://www.onlinecomputer.com.au/product_info.php?products_i…
That's the NAS without HDD and it's $599 normally, so basically the deal is buy a segate NAS server, get 8TB free.