Stay Away from Superhero

I commented in the superhero promotion and I think more people may see it here:

I am leaving superhero now. I thought it was cheap and gives it a try and it is a great mistake. Here is why:
The execution speed is very slow. Even if the price go in your price for 2 minutes or so the order still does not fill. So if you are buying you are always paying more. If you are selling you are always selling less. My guess is that they they try to earn money from the gap. For example you place an buy order at 10 dollars. The top selling order is at 9.9 and you are still not filled. It goes down to 9.8 and 9.7 and you are not filled. Then suddenly you get filled at 10 or 9.9. What they did is buy at 9.7 or 9.8 and fill you at 10 or 9.9. This is definitely not what a broker should do.

And last Friday they try to force people fill in W-8Ben form which no other brokers do. W-8Ben form is a form to reduce the tax paid for us stocks. If you do not trade us stocks you should not fill it. And even if you trade us stocks it is not mandatory. It is just if you don’t fill it you will pay more tax. However superhero forced every customer to fill it. You open the app or website and the form is full screen blocking everything. If you do not fill it you cannot trade or transfer your money. They are promoting their us stock trading and this happens. Advice: Stay away from them. Use Selfwealth if you want something cheap. It is the cheapest you can get that the stock actually sit under your name. With superhero your stock sits in their name instead of yours. Or Commsec or others for reliability.

If you want to trade US stocks you still should not use superheroes. Why? Because they are very expensive and they still play the execution trick. For stake or superhero your commission fee is actually higher than any other traditional brokers if you really earn any money How?

Let’s suppose you buy a stock at 100 dollars. And a year later it is 200 dollars. Now let’s calculate your actual commission. Transfer money from aud to usd 1%. Getting your money out 1% of the ending amount which makes it 2%. So you are paying 3% for commission fee in this case. For traditional brokers typically pay 0.08% to 0.005%. And yes don’t forget they play tricks on your execution which means if you want to day trade it is impossible.

And let’s suppose the stock finally hit 1000 dollars some time in the future. Your commission will be a horrible numble: fx fee 1%+1% of final balance(1000). You are going to pay 11% of commission fee!

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Comments

  • +4

    I guess this is what they call villain monologuing.

  • +1

    Is it possible that there are other people ahead of you at that price?

    • +1

      No. There is not. You can see your offering buy price is higher than top of buying list. You place an order at 10.
      You can see top of order: buy 9.99 sell 10. But you did not get filled.

      • +2

        Sure you haven't got delayed pricing?

        • I use real time pricing from other broker.

  • +2

    Transfer money from aud to usd 1%. Getting your money out 1% of the ending amount which makes it 2%. So you are paying 3% for commission fee in this case. For traditional brokers typically pay 0.08% to 0.005%. And yes don’t forget they play tricks on your execution which means if you want to day trade it is impossible.

    Even free platforms like Robinhood isn't really free. I thought in the age of Facebook everyone knows free isn't free.

    • Whats stalkerbook? I mean Facebook?

  • Still better than stake

    • "Sorry guys, platform got too busy, so you can't buy or sell, lol".

      • Stake has been updated with dark mode all good now.

        • Haven't used it since then so wouldn't know.

  • I believe the FX fee is 0.50% not 1%.
    The argument around the FX fee can be applied with any broker, it's just the nature of trading in international markets.

    If you want to avoid the FX fee when you sell X years down the track, you can just hold USD dollars and either convert it back to AUD (0.50%) or keep it as USD and re-invest it in US stocks again.

    I think the 0.50% FX fee is pretty fair. Seen worse elsewhere.

    Edit: Also, you can set limit orders if you don't want it filling at X price.

  • +1

    Even if the price go in your price for 2 minutes or so the order still does not fill. So if you are buying you are always paying more. If you are selling you are always selling less. My guess is that they they try to earn money from the gap.

    Obviously if they are not getting you with fees, then they are getting you with spread…

  • +1

    "For example you place an buy order at 10 dollars. The top selling order is at 9.9 and you are still not filled. It goes down to 9.8 and 9.7 and you are not filled. Then suddenly you get filled at 10 or 9.9. What they did is buy at 9.7 or 9.8 and fill you at 10 or 9.9. "

    Do you have an actual example so that people can look at the historical course of trades to determine what happened? It can happen with Commsec and Selwealth too as they route their "at market" orders to Chi-X then to the ASX platform.

  • +2

    STAKE IS same, i buy at market price 44.3 USD, and they charge me later (when they receive funds) at $45.79 USD or something like around about that.

    CANNOT BUY fractional shares in the LIMIT category, so have to stick to marketprice.

    STAKE CLAIMS $0 brokerage fee Yet the price per share is always higher, than what it says when buying shares on screen. THESE ARE A TOTAL SCAM honestly, So sick of them

    • A lot of scam brokers doing this now. You pay much more and they say it is “free”. Haha

    • This is why domestic brokerage is so cheap at Stake. Thank you for subsidising for us

  • Stonks brokers playing dodgy games. Who would have 🤔?

    Better call the @sec_enforcement.

  • +1

    I think OP misunderstands what's going on, as I explained in my reply to their comment elsewhere.

  • How does one delete superhero account??? Asking for a friend

  • +1

    Sounds like user error. I have placed a lot of trades on superhero and I can see it in the order book almost straight away. Just use CS for live prices and SH for cheap brokerage. The only time I have seen trades delayed in with CS. Delays are possible with any broker.

    You probably purchased an ETF that requires the W-8Ben form to be completed. I haven't filled in that form for SH and have never been prompted.

    I think you will probably move to another broker like SelfWealth and have more "issues".

    • -2

      I only traded a few Aussie stocks I never bought ETFs or US stocks. w-8BEN is a form issued by US government for foreign investors to claim their residency status in order to determine their suitable tax rate. I should not fill this form. I wanted to sell my stock but I canot. In the end I have to fill it or I canot trade. They are the worst.

      • How are they the worst or expensive for US trades?
        Stake for AUS trades - that's fine. But Superhero is perfectly acceptable for US trades.
        There isn't a trader cheaper than superhero (other than ibkr) for a US trade. 50BPS forex and nil brokerage. Its w8ben is now merged into a questionnaire (doesn't cost 5usd like stake) and takes 30seconds to complete.

        • Charles Schwab is free brokerage, transfer through wise or revolut. Biggest broker in the world.

          Tiger brokers 37bps and free brokerage for US, cheaper than stake or superhero and SiPC member unlike others.

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