Regaine Men's Extra Strength Foam Hair Regrowth Treatment 4 x 60g Half price at Chemist Warehouse. Doesn’t seem to come up at this price very often.
The topical liquid 4 month pack is also on sale for $72.99:
https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/68714/regaine-men-s-…
This is foam.
I know, foam is pointless u need it on ur scalp, not ur hair
Liquid can be applied directly to the scalp
I had no success with liquid - have no idea why.
Depends how you define success.
Minoxidil and finasteride usually slows androgenic alopecia, rather than stop. Some men (and women) can get some regrowth at the vertex (crown), but it's variable and relatively limited.
Great deal. Just bought one (sadly limited to 1x per person).
I maintained great hairgrowth with my own protocol below (I had thinning from hair damage which is all restored) - but I've been updating my protocol when I discover improvements.
My protocol:
1. You need to shower twice - morning and night with sebizole - then apply a keratin rich conditioner.
2. Then after the shower - use Olaplex no. 0, massage into the scalp and wait 15min.
3. Then with a luna, add a squirt of minoxidil foam to the luna bristles and gentle rub through the scalp - I only need 3 foam squirts (scalp sections left/middle&crown/right).
4. Then on Sunday morning - don't use minoxidil and or sebizole - use a dermapen with 36needles at 1mm - e.g. dr pen m8. Throw the cartridge away after single use - as this is the same practice in salons.
5. Sunday night and Monday morning - don't touch your scalp.
6. Then on Monday night - resume the above protocol with sebizole and minoxidil.
(optional: 7.) This next step is not entirely necessary if you want to limit side effects - your mileage may vary: You can ask your doctor for finasteride and use as low as 0.25mg a day to limit side effects. But I would stress that you should come off finasteride every 3 months - e.g. use for 3 months than take a month off. I personally don't take finasteride - but if your genuinely shedding/balding or have other major hair loss problems - you should add this last step to your regimen.
My thoughts; you really have to use sebizole to prep the hair for minoxidil & and must use the dermapen at least weekly. Otherwise, I strongly believe your reducing the ability to maximise the efficacy of the minoxidil. This protocol would also work for beard growth - I've done it myself - however you need to switch the catridge from 36n to a nano catridge for your face.
Wow. Impressive regime Staff.
I agree with using sebizole. I think it's important to leave it on for at least 5 minutes. minoxidil is not worth the effort as far as I am concerned. The best thing is finasteride.
Finasteride, I took for 12 months and didn't notice any less hair less.
So I don't know! I'm 39 with no hair loss, just some thinner at front tho.
I think that is pretty natural. I have been taking it for 10 years and think it's stopped it in its track
In comparison my protocol:
That option (different result) definitely is more time-effective.
'sebizole' is for people with Dandruff
What has it got to do with Hair loss and what study has shown the 'sebizole' is in any way effective for hair loss ?
Sebizole's active ingredient is ketoconazole which is an antiandrogen.
Ketoconazole .. is an antiandrogen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketoconazole
Antiandrogens .. are a class of drugs that prevent androgens like .. DHT .. from mediating their biological effects in the body.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiandrogen
Male pattern hair loss seems to be due to a combination of genetics and circulating androgens, particularly dihydrotestosterone (DHT).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_hair_loss
Some studies that include using ketoconazole shampoo as a treatment for baldness:
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jdermsci.2006.08.011
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3262531/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31832993/
It's also possible that inflammation from dandruff causes some hair loss.
Reading the Study 2, it seemed the trial participants "had existing seborrheic dermatitis problems" as opposed to being just normal participants with just hair loss issues only as well as the participants for the main group also having to take "Propecia 1 mg/day" so not a relevant study on the effects of Nizol shampoo and Regaine alone.
Same issue with Study 3 that required the participants to take finasteride so not a relevant study on the effects of Nizol shampoo and Regaine alone.
"…In this study, 10 patients incorporated 2% ketoconazole shampoo into their regimen. Eight of these patients had known seborrheic dermatitis and demonstrated significant improvement of their dermatitis after one month of therapy with 2% Nizoral shampoo…Patients who did not have signs or symptoms of seborrheic dermatitis also reported 'subjective improvement' with use of 2% ketoconazole shampoo…"
… looking at your step 2 (Olaplex), this product does 'hair' repair and I see no study on its application to affect the root
Q1) Do you only use Regaine Foam once a day in the morning ("only need 3 foam squirts")?
Q2) For Step 1, have you tried Regaine alone (before using Sebizole) for 6-9 months to see the difference?
Q3) For Step 4, have you tried Regaine alone (before using Sebizole & dermapen) for 6-9 months to see the difference?
@[Deactivated]: I've only used finasteride and sebizole since they are both very cheap and don't take much effort to use. I've never tried regaine/minoxidil since it seems relatively like a lot of extra effort and cost. The combination of finasteride and sebizole stopped/dramatically slowed my hairloss without any side effects.
I'm not sure how much difference sebizole makes, but a $17.99 bottle has lasted me for over 1 year, so it's cheap to use. I use normal shampoo to wash my hair followed by lathering in a small amount of sebizole that I leave in for 5 minutes, twice a week.
@dinglejerry: nah .. no side effects for me. I've been on it for nearly 5 years. I take approx 0.5mg per day.
Hey w37hsyea
Q1) Do you only use Regaine Foam once a day in the morning ("only need 3 foam squirts")?
Q2) For Step 1, have you tried Regaine alone (before using Sebizole) for 6-9 months to see the difference?
Q3) For Step 4, have you tried Regaine alone (before using Sebizole & dermapen) for 6-9 months to see the difference?
Cheers
I've tried both the foam and the liquid, the liquid after a month or so gave me rashes on my body and my scalp was very itchy from it which all cleared once I stopped using it. Using the foam for a few weeks and no issues so far.
Itchiness is an expected side-effect of effective application of topical minoxidil (liquid) to the scalp. There's a reason why foam isn't associated with an itch, because it's applied to the length of the hair shaft where it has no active effect and not where it is needed at the scalp and follicle. Itching for the first few weeks or months is expected at commencement, and most should be able to manage by discipline (not scratching) and maybe trying an anti-histamine.
If the itch is severe, then consider cessation. Sounds like that might have been the case for you if you're getting an itch to regions not associated with application (elsewhere on your body), which might be showing that you're hypersensitive and developing the side-effect to the very minor systemic bioavailability of the medicine.
Apparently there's a liquid contains a certain chemical in it that causes the itchiness from what I recall
So does the itch tend to settle down over time? Is it a symptom everyone gets with the liquid?
Like most side-effects, variable for each patient, some won't get it.
Yeah, it lessens with ongoing use, and will resolve.
Would this help to grow a beard where one never existed before? Asking for a friend..
yes - my beard growth was trash. It took 3-6 months to bring it to a manly look.
Interested too, for me though!
I take a minoxidil/finasteride capsule once a day and it worked wonders on my hair. I just don't have the inclination or discipline to be putting minoxidil on my hair every day. It is pricier though - $50pm. I was losing my hair fast and I figured it was worth a try because if I tried and it failed at least I wouldn't regret not having given it a go.
Where do you get minoxidil tablets from?
also would like to know
pilot.com.au
What's your take on pilot.com.au so far, j1nk0r?
@Youbidmetoit: I've been very happy with them. It's all done in consultation with real GPs. You fill out a web form to start and then it's an online message back and forth with a GP.
At the beginning I think I had 3x monthly consults with the GP to see how things were going, and after that he issued a 3 month script with a lower amount of finasteride in it because he said it builds up in your system over time so after a while you don't need so much.
Since then, every quarter I have another consult (all over messaging) and another script gets issued.
Looking at my history, it was $20 once, then $78 per month for the first 3 months, then $149 per quarter thereafter and that includes the medication and the consult and postage.
They email in advance of when they're going to charge, and it shows up in an express post satchel without any branding on it. You can also request your refill earlier or later if you want so that flexibility is nice.
Yeah, very impressed, especially how they just stay out of my way and don't make it a hassle. I haven't taken them up on anything else they sell and I don't intend to. Shame they don't do GP consults for normal stuff like cholesterol checks.
It's actually a blood pressure medication that can also be used at lower doses for hair loss
You need a script. Specifically a script for a compound pharmacy that can make the medication at the lower dose
minoxidil tablet is always easier- one a day rather than spending time doing the topical treatment
is this a prescription med? ie requies GP consult? Thanks.
Yeh some gp do if they're confident some don't. Cost around $35/month
What dose do you take?
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will my palms get hairy if i use it to apply product?
Try simpleonlinedoctor for finasteride pills. I take them daily, although I’m not sure it’s had much of an effect. I’ve tried the liquid and it just burns my scalp and makes it crusty and itchy - not really something I wanted to continue.
I find the most effective thing for me is managing my stress, but that’s easier said than done. Good luck to all.
5OFF150 for $5 off
I got one liquid one foam to test
Quite a few people have complained of a "brain fog" associated with both finasteride and minoxidil, so that's something to consider before taking hair-loss medications.
Side-effects of finasteride can include depression (and anxiety), and in very rare cases an exacerbation of a likely underlying psychiatric condition which might contribute to more severe mental illnesses like major depression and psychoses. The former is still uncommon in the studies I've read (~1-2%) with normalization at 18 month follow-up, but something to keep in mind when discussing with your doctor after commencement if they occur and their overall effect on your function when deciding on continuation or cessation. The later is certainly very rare and other interventions and therapies are a lot more relevant than simply ceasing the finasteride.
the cheaper way is shave your head, go to the gym and get massive to look like Dwayne Johnson.
word of warning - don't think they have any stock
Ordered 1 on Monday, and hasn't been shipped or processed (yet payment has been taken from CC)
Have sent their customer service and email yesterday … hopefully will get an answer one way or the other
It looks like once you start it, you need to keep using it forever.
I still have hair and just normal hair loss. Probably not a good idea.
Basically, but I personally think think I would suit a shaved head.
I don't think clipping your hair down to a 1-2 daily is great either.
Yeah, same here, I actually stopped using it and my hair was shedding and thinning bad but it’ back to normal now since I didn’t need to use it in the first place. Fin is all I need rn
Will this get me a girlfriend? I am balding.
No. Since you asked this question, probably be best if you invest on building character. Some women that more attractive than a wimpy man with thick hair
Haha what good timing.
I was putting up some new security cameras and when I was testing them I noticed, at 34, I'm thinning on the top of my head.
I think I'm just going to let it happen and not bother with stuff like this. I'll probably eventually shave it or clipper really short.
Absolutely, it’s sad to see how much money people waste on prolonging the inevitable.
Regarding perceiving these therapeutic benefits as a waste:
A significant slowing of patterned hair loss can provide potentially decades of greater hair density and reducing regions that are affected, providing the benefit of preservation to allow patient's to continue styling in an aesthetic fashion complimentary and embracing of their hair and it's pattern of loss. We're fortunate to have these medicinal options that have good efficacy and great safety profiles.
Regarding perceiving these medicines as expensive:
They can be, variable to how much a patient studies and what consumer decision they make. Personally I've focused on the two medicines with proven therapeutic benefits, oral finasteride and topical minoxidil, and the approximately cost is ~$12/mo, which is an insubstantial cost for most. Getting caught into the marketing machine of the hair clinics with their very expensive consults and therapies, most without empirical evidence to provide any claims of therapeutic benefit, that can get very expensive.
Regarding perceiving androgenic alopecia as inevitable:
Yes, the condition is progressive, and it's a natural part of many men's ageing process. That's not to dismiss the benefits of preserving the integrity and pattern of our hair relative to your age (as compared to not using these medicines). And the option of follicular unit transplantation at more advanced stages is there for older men to consider.
Don't get me wrong I'd prefer to keep it but I don't think I could justify the ongoing cost (albeit small) of these sorts of products.
I am glad that it helps some people though
Will this work on my balls?
They'll be itchy.
I used Minoxidil for about 8 years. When I stoped it, all of my hair were lost!
So, if you use these kinds of products, you have to continue using until the end of your life!
I could have saved all the money to pay for hair transplant!
Good luck :)
Yeah, continuation of therapy is necessary to maintain the slowed rate of regression. The natural evolution of the use of these therapies is that middle-age and older will bring eventually greater patterned loss, and depending on the patient's hair styling and their perception of their own aesthetic, decisions can fork into either continuation (to maintain slow ongoing loss albeit now with advanced patterned loss), cessation (to hasten the advanced patterned loss), or follicular unit transplantation.
I used this for about a month. 1 week in my balls started hurting. After a month I decided I'd prefer to be bald.
First time I've heard a report of orchialgia being associated with minoxidil. A quick search of even oral minoxidil (where you'd expect a highly likelihood of systemic side-effects) didn't list it under it's rarer side-effects, so not certain of any causality. Sure that would have made for an interesting discussion and consideration with your doctor.
Thats strange. Pretty sure I've seen it listed as one of the many issues you might get. But it was pretty annoying. Not like having been kicked, but like having been slapped recently. Actually now that I think about it, it sort of matches blue balls sensation, but not crippling version. If stopped hurting the day after I stopped using it.
My strategy was a combover until it looked ridiculous, then hair transplant.
Don’t need to remind myself to take the tablet every day & deal with side effects, or shave my head a couple of times a week…
I guess it depends on how fast you’re balding and whether you want to preserve your 18yo hairline at any cost.
These medicines can be a relatively cost-effective means of slowing patterned loss, and then it comes down to styling well that is both complementary to your own aesthetic and embracing of your pattern of loss.
Having a pattern of hair loss (however advanced) doesn't have to be a fight of two extremes, that is either hiding how it's affecting you at all versus shaving it entirely - a lot of great styles embrace your loss and shows it often in a more subtle and appeasing way.
It does come with a time commitment though, as do most things humans do for cosmesis.
I haven't studied hair transplantation modalities yet. Can you share your story?
(c/p with updated date references from another post a few years ago)
I had one 6 years ago and another one two years later. I dare say it was one of the best things I've done in my life.
I started losing hair in mid twenties, was trying to disguise it with a combover for the next ten years, but it got to the point when I either had to stop doing it and expose my bald head to the world, or do something about it.
My surgeon told me I had perhaps 5-10% hair left on the top of my head, so imagine my horror every time the wind blew in my direction…
I read a lot about it, and decided that hair transplant was the only true and lasting solution.
I did it in Europe, had zero issues/complications, and I am extremely happy with the results. My hairline has been restored, of course it's not as low or as thick as it was when I was 18, but I look a million times better compared to when I had a stupid combover.
I would like to encourage other men to follow in my footsteps. I can almost guarantee you won't regret it!
Hey do you mind if I ask where you got it done in europe and how much it cost ?
So is it something you have to do every 5 years?
Do they take the hair from the side of the head?.wanted to pm you but you have it disabled hehe and thought others may also be curious
I'm curious why people say turkey and Europe or even China but not Australia
@AussieMark: 1st one in Hungary 3,000€ ~ 3,000 follicles
2nd one in Croatia 2,500€ ~ 2,000 follicles
Depending on how your baldness is progressing, you might need more surgery as you get older. My crown is getting really thin, so I'll have another one in the next 5-10 years, and then I'm hoping that will be it.
The transplanted hair doesn't ever fall out, you only need more surgery to cover new bald spots.
Prices in Australia are insane, when I did mine one follicle here cost 5 times more than what I paid in Europe. Turkey was even cheaper, I remember seeing US 1,000 for 4,000 follicles including hotel accommodation and airport transfers…
@samojed: thanks man! did some research on FUE, and yeah looks to be like $6000 starting price in AU. now I understand why people go to turkey, China or thailand.
I'll do some more research. Obviously transplant is a lot more upfront cost but I'd think people would actually spend the same amount with the tablets or chemicals but that would be over 5-10 years.
Does seem like the technology is evolving, before they had to do one hair at a time manually haha my god that would be hard work or cut out the scalp.
@AussieMark: That’s how both my procedures were done, one follicle at a time… The very first day was 16 hours getting stabbed in the scalp :-]
Thanks for the info.
I'm interesting in learning more if you don't mind disclosing details (understand if you don't, of course). My guess is I'm still probably at least a decade or more from considering this option…
Which country? How did you find and research the clinic/surgeon? Was it FUT? Do you have any scarring? Is there any noticeable difference to the density, growth, or direction of the transplanted hair? What were the costs? Can you expect repeat procedures to either retreat, or treat new regions?
TIA for any info. Cheers!
@muwu: Please see my response to @AussieMark above.
I travelled to Budapest a year before my first surgery and visited a couple of clinics, in one of them I spoke to a dodgy salesman, in another one the surgeon took time to answer all my questions, his English was perfect - so he was the logical choice.
It was FUE, and I have zero scarring at the back of my head.
No difference in growth or direction, I've only noticed if I leave it longer it starts curling (because the hair at the back of my head curls a bit lol).
There is of course a substantial difference in density - imagine trying to replace 50,000 follicles with 5,000. Still, good surgeons create good optical illusions, and it also helps if your hair is straight and not too dark (mine is both of the above). A lot of it also depends on the styling - it looks thicker if it's flat rather than brushed up in front etc…
Just for anyone considering this….
I noticed my hair starting to thin just a little bit (girlfriend hadn’t noticed), so I figured I’d get ahead of the game and start using this.
I followed the instructions religiously and consistently and within 2-3 months noticed my hair was really thinning out badly. Apparently it can take a while before it starts to improve, so I stuck with it for 2 full years. The entire time I was using this product my hair loss accelerated, leading to self confidence issues and depression.
Eventually I gave up using it but the damage was done. Now I shave my head and just deal with it.
I can’t 100% say that this caused my hair to fall out, it may have happened anyway but in the few years before I started using it there was minimal hair loss, and once started using it I lost a LOT of hair and hair thickness in a relatively short period.
Again, it could just be a one off or whatever, but be very carefull if you start using it. Oh and if you happen to miss a couple of days (say you are away camping or started sleeping with someone and afraid to use it in front of them, you will immediately notice your hair thinning out instantly.
So just be warned this may help, but may make things far worse and it isn’t cheap.
I would personally recommend the watermans grow me shampoo instead. I didn’t use it but a friend of mine did and had great results…
At the end of the day as much as it sucks (and trust me I know), shaving my head was the better option. Women see being bald/shaven as a choice (and thanks to the rock and a few others a good choice), but trying to hide a thinning hairline isn’t as attractive. Bite the Bullet early and no one will know you were going bald, they’ll just think it was a choice.
Oh and just finally, when you do shave your head for the first time it’ll take some time for your skin to tan, so now is a good time (especially if you are working from home). You can get lots of spring sunlight without burning your head and if you are working from home you have time to get an even tan before returning to the office.
Good luck
Minoxidil generally extends the growing (anagen) phase of the hair cycle, liquid minoxidil has propylene glycol which can cause irritation of scalp like itchiness, dryness, dandruff. Ketoconazole sold as nizoral can combat this, most effective medication for male pattern baldness that is easily available would be finasteride or dutasteride, which effectively inhibits testosterone being turned into DHT.
Finasteride is the absolute devil. Made some horrible irreversible changes to my body. My only advice would be to seriously consider whether the balding process warrants taking a long term pill that messes with androgens. Do your thorough research before rushing in and weigh up the pros cons of just shaving your skull.
What were the changes?
Can you share more about your experience?
Suitable for balding men like ScoMo?
No, there is a point of no return.
People putting poison chemically laced product on the head thinking it will make their hair grow. 🤦♂️
It's all a myth.
Just shave your head. It was the best thing I ever did.
So what's the upshot of the potential side effects of Minoxidil on reproductive health?
I have been using Finasteride for 15 years now and had a hair transplant in my frontal lobe only when I was 20 in Thailand. I have been able to retain the rest of my hair after all these years. Hair is as thick if not thicker than prior to all this in areas without hair transplant. Thinner in the areas that have had transplant, and can quickly use hair fibre to fill it up, takes mere seconds. You could also now get tattooing to fill up those areas rather than getting another hair transplant or doing what I do but I am happy with the results.
Definitely recommend Finasteride as soon as you notice any balding. Finasteride would not have had any effect on the frontal lobes so hair transplant was the only option. And taking a pill once a day isn't that hard to remember and is very cost effective was a bit more expensive and not on PBS when I started.
I did try Regaine when I was 20, but it was the inconvenience and unable to style my hair how I wanted to that turned me off.
I am glad men can openly discuss male pattern baldness, medical procedures and medicines available today. When I was 20 it was a very taboo topic and very few places to discuss this stuff on forums etc
Hope this helps.
Thank you for sharing
Has anyone found any in-store or are they all sold out ?
Is using products like hair folli, natural ingredients like Kakadu plum as effective?
There are a lot of "natural" products with dubious claims.
I’m still waiting for my cash back from the last deal. Buy it when it’s just a simple discount like this. Starting to think these cash backs are all a scam.
Just got a cancellation email from Chemist Warehouse. Not Happy Jan!
Thank you for your order with us.
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As we could not source this product(s) we regrettably have to remove this item(s) from your order.
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i picked up 1 liquid and 1 foam but honestly no idea lol as never used it before.
Maybe try another store? but thats annoying
y buy this overpriced foam when u, can get 6x60ml for only $80
Regaine is just way too overpriced for generic Minoxidil
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