Bill Gates' new book is free to claim for a limited time. Just enter any temp email address and a school (I used my little bot's primary school) and the ebook will download. epub reader is required to read.
The Kindle version of this book is a #1 best seller and currently $17.99 on Amazon.
I’ve read the audiobook and it was good and seemed mostly factual. (I didn’t go and cross reference each source to verify them though).
I'm interested in knowing how read an audiobook? Aren't they just listened to?
its a special skill
The audiobook gets downloaded into your brain via your earports for you to read at your leisure. Oh wait… you must have usb-a earports. Sorry, only usb-c is supported by Bill Gates' book. Maybe you can get the old audio book about climate change, An Inconvenient Truth by Al Gore.
These comments are really shocking. The mods need to clean up this mess. OzBargain is no place to push irrelevant conspiracies and hate.
Is this the guy who ran a pre pandemic preparation just before covid? Ahhh that Must be a coincidence Microsoft profit up 27% due to covid ahh must be another coincidence, is this the same guy who said poor countries should not get covid vaccine ip rights and took the side of corporate patents over human lives? Ahh yup I get it now.should definitely listen to this guy.
Oh boy.
It's the same guy who, for the last few years decades, has:
* Progressed for the eradication of malaria in third world countries
* Encouraged other billionaires to donate significant amounts of their money towards charities
* Spearheads climate control committee to persuade nations to start reducing their carbon footprint
* Is on an international watchgroup that is trying to limit the proliferation of super AI before it is too late
* Was recently instrumental in facilitating the COVID vaccine manufacture that was created by the University of Oxford, because they had no way of producing millions of samples.This was the AstraZeneca vaccine
The guy is literally trying to save humanity.
But, given you like conspiracy theories so much - try this one:
* Which organisation would lose billions of dollars ($45bn) every year, if a free COVID vaccine was made available to the world, by an altruistic organisation ?
* Which organisation would stand to gain from running a smear campaign about the side effects of AstraZeneca, whilst massively downplaying the side effects of their own vaccine ?
* Which organisation played hardball with numerous governments, including the Australian Govt, in their contract negotiations, despite mounting deaths ?
* Which organisation has ensured it is immune (excuse the pun) from prosecution, should it be discovered their vaccine is responsible for deaths/reduction in quality of life ?
* Which organisation would lose significant revenue from anti-malarial treatments, including hardware and facilities, should malaria be wiped out ?
* Which organisation is now pushing the Govt to 'secure' booster shots, even though both Moderna and Astrazeneca have both advised further data is needed to justify booster shots ?
Now before you answer, I know what you're going to say: "AZ ! Blood clots! Death!!!1!" blah, blah blah.
And the bad news, is that it's all true.
But every year, 100,000 people die from blood clots, and so far, everyone has been pretty chill about it. Even when it's been pregnant women.
The good news is, we actually have medication to reduce blood clots, and have done for some decades. In contrast, there is no medication for an inflamed heart, which is the side effect of the other vaccine, meaning you have to live with it, until the body decides it's had enough drama, thank you very much. For both vaccines, the rate of side effects is minuscule
Now… have you worked out which international pharmaceutical has managed to 'secure' your tax funded dollars, can legally challenge the government from obtaining vaccines elsewhere, and can seize public assets regardless of sovereign immunity, should the Govt not pay up ?
No ?
Maybe you should start paying attention. No need to look for fancy conspiracies, when they are happening right under your nose.
Dude you sound really smart and open minded. I wish you were my prime minister and/or dad
@SpainKing: and you sound like a sheep,i definitely don't want a sheep as my son.
Oh and Just in case if you didn't know the meaning of open minded >>"willing to consider new ideas; unprejudiced" you clearly don't understand the meaning, if you did, you would accept the fact that other people have a different point of view.
heres an idea for you, use your brain, try to see whats under the surface.
your brain hurts? are you sure its not your arse?
language language little man.
Are you sure you have your mommy's permission to make a post?
Kids should not run around willy nilly posting on the internet. There are big bad billionaires out there.
@sammyla: Wow, not even willing to consider all the benefits a sheep would have over a regular human son. You'd save a lot on wool sweaters
Oh, and just in case you were a hypocrite who lived embracing their own cognitive dissonance, let me propose this:
Open minded means "willing to consider new ideas; open-minded" (I can see you ripped it straight from Googling the definition of the word as I don't think you know how or when to use a semi-colon).
You, previously, said "Didn't read your garbage but I think you misspelled your username".
So here's the simple math -
Man who thinks he's open-minded (when he didn't even know the definition of the word) + hypocrisy
= A man who would be unwilling to read through ~1 page of something that didn't sound ridiculous
="Didn't read your garbage but I think you misspelled your username"
=Sammyla
It's just hilarious that you would then try to get on your high horse and say I don't understand what it means and can't accept other points of view.
Here's an idea for you, don't use your brain, it's not doing you any favours. You're fuelled by confirmation bias and a skewed worldview
@SpainKing: Oh that got you wound up didn't it? exactly what i wanted, and you googled it!!! hahahah fool. you really didn't have to, i told you what it means, but it seems you got OCD you double check things,not bad for a sheep. people like you who write long paragraphs trying to get your point across are just foolish.
Next paragraph please..
@sammyla: No, it got me excited. I Googled it to confirm you don't know how to use a semi-colon. You're right that I didn't need to though 😉 And also that it's probably foolish to try and convince someone intellectually challenged of something that goes against their limited bubble of knowledge (especially when they've made it one of their core beliefs, as you seem to have done)
Gonna keep it short and sweet for you this time, seems like you have a short attention span and you didn't leave me with much more to add. It's still early in the morning here so I do hope you have a pleasant rest of your day xx
@SpainKing: hahah yup you googled it for the semi colon SURE!! dude stop trying to force your opinion on people, it doesn't work with me, your reply is all over the place , short attention span? wdf are you on? crack?
Anyway Good day to you too! haha
@sammyla: Believe what you want to sammyla, some people just know what words mean and can tell when someone else didn't write the sentence themselves. Sorry for checking to see if my facts were true, I hope it's not too foreign a concept.
You don't know my opinion aside from that I think you're a hypocrite. You already demonstrated that to be true. Nothing's being forced on you aside from an honest appraisal of how you come across. I'm not the government or the original poster who made all the points that you chose to respond to by calling them garbage. You're forcing your opinion as you don't offer anything meaningful to refute OP's claims
Very impressive how you can withstand my magic opinion-forcing powers, most people crumble just knowing they exist but obviously you are no sheep.
What was confusing to you about my reply so I can clarify? And I'll have you know I haven't even started my day drinking yet.
Thank you, big plans for your day?
@SpainKing: Dudeee!! i am not a hypocrite, i just don't believe Billionaires are out to save the world, they aren't, they literally don't care as long as they make money, well what they portray themselves to be is not their real self,in fact billionaires who created things like facebook did more harm than good to society.they always have an agenda and usually its around money making.
Plans for me?, since you asked in a nice way ..me and wife can hardly plan the day working from home with a 5 year old an 5 month old, but going to tend to my buffalo lawn and plants for sure when i get a chance.
P.S drinking is bad for you
@sammyla: It's okay Sammy, we're all hypocrites at the end of the day.
I agree with you that many/most billionaires aren't out to save the world and the fact they have billions of dollars probably means they've done some bad for it. It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility that one or a few could actually care about the planet they've lived on their whole lives that their children are likely to end up with.
Bill Gates at one point cared about making money but at this point I think he's made enough and recognises that which is why he's trying to use it now to make the world better in his own eyes. It doesn't matter to me if he's portraying someone other than his real self as whoever he's acting like repeatedly makes actions that are philanthropic and likely to help overall.
Social media has been very bad for people but Bill Gates had very little if anything to do with the formation of Facebook.
They usually have an agenda yes. I don't think Bill Gates' was to make money by giving his book away for free electronically. If anything it would be to get more people to side with his way of thinking
Ooh a newborn, they can be quite the handful. Hopefully the practice with the 5 year old makes it easier to handle the 2 of them. Glad you get to spend the day with your wife and hope you have a great time in the garden! Good luck with work and raising the family
PS: With the amount I drink it's worse than bad
He is no expert
Why don't you? Negative vote is based on issue with a product. We can clearly see that here.
Is Gates the "product"?
@jackspratt: The product is the book, but Gates works too lol. Both of them there's clear issues with.
What issue of the product, i.e. the book, is specified in the comment? Feel free to neg or dislike Gates, it doesn't bother me.
I don't think the comment highlighted any useful information about the product and the reason of neg.
Anyways, I am happy to be corrected and will let the mods decide.
@47: Negative votes will be decided by the community.
Comment is inferring to his climate change propaganda he's normally asking money for, wouldn't go as far as brainwashing it's controversial to put it nicely.
Not in this to neg the deal or shit on Gates, just being objective.
I would encourage you to look into the history of the IPCC, and their FRAUD
People, should all learn about the emails that were leaked, showing systemic scientific fraud, it's important to understand there is an agenda behind climate change, The IPCC organisation was formed to create pseudoscientific papers, which the decision makers wave around to justify changing laws that effectively take away your FREEDOM
People, should all learn about the emails that were leaked
Agreed. Here's a place to start: https://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/
@TimeOrMoney: Nice coverup,
Only way to get to the bottom of this for someone who is on the fence, is to go and check the emails yourself. It was well understood at the time the scale of the fraud.
People have forgotten and history re-written. Sorry, that factcheck website, is nothing more than a coverup.
Sorry, that factcheck website, is nothing more than a coverup.
No need to apologize champ. It's fine to continue reading and learning.
You didn't provide a link to those emails, so try this.
But… you are?
He is even not in that industry. He is just a billionaire.
Love me some Billy G propaganda. Thanks OP.
Ah yes, good old Bill "private jets for me, massive lifestyle changes for you" Gates. He was an arsehole back when he was running MS, and he's just a differently branded one now.
[Do we need to change things? Yes. Do we need to listen to a bloke whose expertise is in ripping off basic computer code and making a company out of it? No, probably not.]
Just a friendly reminder that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.
Finally, a conspiracy theory I can get behind
Too bad he doesn't have enough money to simply GIVE IT AWAY, in order to hopefully save this planet.
https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/
All sources are linked in transcript. I'm sure you were about to ask about it.
The self proclaimed expert on climate change, population control and vaccinations. 🤦♂️
You? Or him?
Pretend to be a know-everything expert and rule your life. as what IE did before.
Forgot to mention to avoid also anything FACTCHECK as its also a little project by Billy Boy and his wife Melinda (financed by Annenberg Foundation) 😉
Call whatever you like people that don't want to participate in this global experiment. Im not interested to play "conspiracy terrorists" games. We provided data, time provided that it was true.
Sea of evidence out there if you want to see and accept you've been punked.
Just a simple one, conference 10 years ago, uploaded, 8ish years ago (so you can't just go and say that's from yesterday or wild guessing) , listen the entire video fully from start to end, absolutely word for word of what's been going on in this country thats not Australia any more. Only thing that's left of it are faded letters, fabricated false patriotic chantings, nothing else's. Let's protect Australian way of life and Australian values….what are those exactly? All the ones we've walked over last 18 months in the name of "health"?
Truth is ugly but must be said, must be heard and acknowledged. Yes I know, you'd best like just to sit on your behind, Netflix, ubereats, Click, Click, click but if we continue doing just that there won't be much left to click for.
Quick crash course. Enjoy
fabricated false patriotic chantings
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of those stupid protests either.
Ann Bressington + "Lord" Monckton ….. 🤣
I wonder if this will trigger the New World Order/Anti-Vaxx/Incel?Paranoiac crowd? Oh.
That’s rich, coming from him
And if you thought the OzB anti-vax conspiracy crowd were rabid ………. 🤣
I'm sorry for everyone who believes that people who think that planet is overpopulated also want save as much people as possible with vaccines.
I am sorry for people who are not smart enough to understand the two are not mutually exclusive.
They actually are. You can't reduce population but increasing number of people.
Have a feeling there's a pretty big crossover between the anti-vaxxers and those that believe Bill Gates is a lizard person
First computers then designed a way to depopulate the globe 💉💉💉💉
Now he’s having a go at climate I feel sorry for people who jabbed up now
Don't feel bad for us, being jabbed up and going out to bars and restaurants is really pleasant :)
I’m not feeling sorry as I to doo the same thing but unjabbed in victoria and Melbourne as I don’t get refused
Prepare your shoulders and buttocks and get ready for the booster jabs in exchange for beer and snacks. Don't forget that if you skip your next jab you will lose your newly acquired right and freedom to go to pub with a welcoming sign on the door "For fully jabbed only". Enjoy while you can. Who knows how long you have left to live on this planet.
Unfortunately about 600 Australians left this world after being jabbed without getting to enjoy the freedom to go out to bars and instead gained eternal freedom. At least 70 thousand had adverse reactions, many thousands became severely injured including permanently. But according to polititians and brainwashed majority, lives and health of these people doesn't matter. It's all for "the common good" after all.
You should meet and speak with the relatives of the dead and with those who got the jab after being promised freedoms or those who were forced to do it. Tell them how much you are enjoing you life of the superior class citizen until your next jab. Russian roulette is an interesting game to play…
Some people have a monkey on their back.
Others have an elephant, which is far harder to dislodge.
Young people have sacrificed their education, jobs, weddings and relationships to save older people before this vaccine. We did so willingly.
Now when we see young people injured by the vaccine— pericarditis, chronic fatigue, Bell's Palsy, not to mention the long term health risk that has not been accounted for— we are expected to take the vaccine without any legal recourse. In other words, we were willing to sacrifice for you boomers, but when we don't want to take on the personal health risk you threaten our livelihoods and exclude us from society.
Forcing this "vaccine" on children and pregnant women without any longitudinal health information is plain evil. And you all know this deep down, but you do nothing.
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Well said, randomvis.
Agree with everything you have written 100%
I will just add that we all have certain levels of freedom, such as freedom to chose what injections goes into our bodies..
The vaccines have been provisionally approved - Please look up that definition, understand what that means. It is no way shape or form the same as a full approval
Despite, the news, and others claiming decades of testing behind the vaccines support it's safety. The simple fact is COVID has not been around long enough for that testing to have actually taken place. The pericarditis and other injuries now coming out, were not known about in the beginning, this highlights the importance of why the vaccine should not be mandated as in "No Jab, No Job" policy.. There are genuine vaccine safety risks that cannot be downplayed, and it is wrong to force that risk onto anyone else. There are alternatives for keeping friends, family and colleagues safe.. Allowing workers to take a recent covid test and confirming negative removes the risk of a person spreading COVID and also removes the risk of vaccine injury.
The fact that uncommon side effects like pericarditis are being known about now demonstrates that the system is being honest and they're doing their job of checking for efficacy and carefully watching the consequences. At this point, with billions of covid vaccines been administered already, it's the most well tested medical treatment ever. No other drug goes through decades of testing in humans before being approved, they do a normal trial for a year or so and then boom give it to people, the adverse event reporting over time has always been an important part of drug regulation and is not new. I don't think you're being consistent about which drugs you're scared of, I bet you've never looked up anything else you've taken.
Many countries have paused vaccine rollouts for one jab or another for certain demographics because they've weighing up the side effects against other options, using the data to inform best public health priorities. Exact opposite of your narrative that they're deliberately poisoning you and have no idea what the risks are.
I don't have strong feelings about whether workplaces should be allowed to mandate vaccines. But at a personal level everyone should get one if they have a brain.
There are genuine concerns people have with vaccine safety. COVID has not been around for decades, we have not been able to study the longer term health effects from the vaccines due to the time constraints, it's also a primary reason the vaccines have not been fully approved instead have received a provisional approval (different type). The reason for this is, there is no way the COVID vaccine can follow the same rigorous route as all other previously fully approved vaccinations… Despite what the news says, and even the FAQ document at your local GP says, the COVID Vaccine has not received a full TGA approval, only provisional, this is important to understand because there are certain conditions applied, and waving around the full approval banner doesn't instill confidence.
A lot of what you have said is subjective, such as the discovery of pericarditis -This was just one example of an injury, there are more that are not known yet. There is an expectation this will rise, and the government has been on the front-foot to deal with this by setting aside compensation for vaccine injury's.
Simply saying it's a no brainer, just take the jab, can lead to someone having long term health implications that severely impact their quality of life.
Well, you're probably thinking, we live in a nanny state, there's no way the state or federal government would allow me to get vaccine injured, and if I am, I'll just sue… Actually, doctors, nurses have received indemnity and are not liable for your injury, in fact, the big pharmaceutical companies refused to provide us with any vaccines unless the government granted them an indemnity.
C'mon people please, wake up or prove me wrong !.
@mikeangelo: There are valid concerns. The side effects are very rare but they still exist and some are terrible. In most cases the pericarditis and myocarditis is only temporary, but could be permanent. And death from blood clotting is a real issue.
That said, the question is whether the vaccine is safer than the disease. The answer is that the vaccine is much, much safer than the disease. Covid-19 causes pericarditis and myocarditis in much higher percentages, and death in much, much higher percentages.
There is risk so there should always be a choice. But the benefits far outweigh the risk.
@GunnerMcDagget: You are saying the side effects are rear…Hmmm
This is TGA data of ONLY REPORTED cases of ADVERT EVENTS:
21 FEB to 14 OCT 2021
Selected medicines
Trade name Active ingredients
COMIRNATY COVID-19 vaccine BNT162b2 (mRNA)
COVID-19 Vaccine (TNS) COVID-19 Vaccine (Type not specified)
COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca ChAdOx1-S (Viral vector)
Spikevax COVID-19 vaccine Elasomeran (mRNA)
Search results
Number of reports (cases): 68782
Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 67701
Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 599
@mikeangelo: Vaccine side effects absolutely exist. And they're quite bad. And we know that already. They just happen to be rare and still a lot better than COVID. That's why ATAGI was hesitant to approve AZ for young people on the condition that they could pick up a different vaccine before borders opened. I'm very happy with the transparency that they're acting with.
You've asserted that there are more side effects that we havn't discovered yet. I doubt that and I think you're fearmongering, we would've had an indication already in the reporting. It's fairly clear that the pericarditis from pfizer/moderna and VITT from AZ are the main risks to worry about at a population level. And again, you can say that about anything, like the stuff they put in your sunscreen.
Yes the vaccines were provisionally approved by the TGA on a smaller-scale trial than usual, that is not news to me. Because there's a pandemic. If you want to scare people about that then you need to explain what the gap in knowledge is, what you want them to prove. If I was one of the first people to get the vaccine I would agree the risks are unknown, but now the data generated through monitoring is enormous, we know the risks now.
No drug is tested for decades, wake up yourself buddy. Look at the data, the vaccines are good and will hugely reduce the consequences of coming into contact with covid.
@ozfool: You are saying the side effects are rear…Hmmm
This is TGA data of ONLY REPORTED cases of ADVERT EVENTS:
21 FEB to 14 OCT 2021
Selected medicines
Trade name Active ingredients
COMIRNATY COVID-19 vaccine BNT162b2 (mRNA)
COVID-19 Vaccine (TNS) COVID-19 Vaccine (Type not specified)
COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca ChAdOx1-S (Viral vector)
Spikevax COVID-19 vaccine Elasomeran (mRNA)
Search results
Number of reports (cases): 68782
Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 67701
Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 599
@bob19: That's fear mongering. You know as well as I that those 599 deaths were investigated and only 9 deaths were due to vaccine side effects. All due to AstraZeneca rare blood clotting.
@GunnerMcDagget: I have someone very dear to me, that has suffered a vaccine injury.
YOU don't like the FACTS, So you call it FEARMONGERING'
The Facts Stand On Their Own
The Vaccine Risks are FAR GREATER than your downplayed view
@mikeangelo: I'm sorry to hear that, but a single case is anecdotal.
Yes, there are risks. But these risks are well known and the TGA reports the adverse events including the 9 people who have died.
That's less than 1 in 1 million chance of dying from the AZ vaccine. Pfizer doesn't have the risk of death but has other risks. But all these are much, much lower than the risks involved in catching Covid.
@mikeangelo: Your comments above were fairly well written and I assume you're basically intelligent. But do you wonder if you might have been radicalised on this issue? It's such a controversial topic and we all knew it was going to be like this, people were always going to poison the well and be contrarians, regardless of what the real data says. Vaccines and a scary virus and bumbling politicians on the news every day was always going to bring out the crazies. And liberatarian-freedom-minded people would always have a deep gut reaction about being forced to wear masks in public, it can't be helped.
I think being a skeptic is great. But to be a good skeptic you have to step back, let people stop pushing your buttons, and have a cold hard look at both sides.
Personally I had zero trust in the vaccines when people started working on them, I thought there was a high chance they'd just be ineffective and I'd have to be the person in my friend group trying to undercut the hope and undue expectations. Then when AZ was approved for young people in Sydney, I had a hard look at the clotting syndrome to see how alarmed I should be. And honestly there are some valid criticisms, like how it's a autoimmune condition with longlasting consequences and not just a single rare clot which isn't fully being conveyed by ABC articles, and how there was an open question about whether the clots might be a result of bodged administration (into the blood instead of into the muscle). I was ready to find the smoking gun, I am no stranger to holding outsider beliefs if I think the data supports it. But the data is good, the clots are rare, and I was quite happy to jump in and get the AZ.
@ozfool: Just admit you were never a sceptic
You've been given the facts (TGA) on adverse reactions, and deaths. You have brushed it off same as the other bloke commenting above, you've come up with excuses as to why the stats are fake or somehow invalid. You've ignored near everything I've said regarding the vaccine injury and even the government has acknowledged the s**t we are in, hence why they're getting in early with setting aside funds to pay off victims, or their families.
The data is available for anyone to make a conscious unbiased decision as to whether the risks outweigh the benefits, I'm happy to leave it there, I encourage people to do their own research and do not rely on me, nor the government or the paid chief medical officers to have your best interest at heart.
@mikeangelo: Do you mind explaining why the numbers you quoted are scary, and why there is no room for a rational person to interpret them as non-scary? There is a strong possibility in my mind that you've misrepresented the meaning of those numbers, but I'm prepared to give you a chance to make your case. Let's pretend for a minute that I am a genuinely honest person who is prepared to read anything that is actually serious.
You seem to have a deep distrust of "the government" and "paid chief medical officers". I don't really trust the governments statements either, but I do think the millions of scientists and doctors out there tend to be above average in intelligence and are usually trustworthy. But even then, I like to read the data myself and try to understand the science.
@ozfool: Every single piece of advice given to Australian's, either through the TV, radio advertisements, the so called "experts", and local GPs are either factually incorrect or grossly downplayed (The risks).
It's called Propaganda
That propaganda focuses on group mentality Everybody is doing something, so should you.
There's no denying the propaganda machine for vaccines are VERY STRONG
So strong in fact, none in the general public could ever imagine there would be very little facts to support vaccines
Those doctors and experts, the so called millions, lose their license if they dare speak out against the official medical advice, that's mostly psudoscientific crap.
And the system is completey backwards. On the other hand any independent scientific evidence that speaks out against the vaccines, or puts the vaccine plan in jeopardy is labelled the psudoscientific crap.
Anyone who does their research, would see there's a genuine risks with taking a vaccine, it's obviously being downplayed….. For now
Let's see what happens next year, and the future coming years, I'd be interested to see the data on the increasing health implications Australians are suffering from. Many Australians would put it down to bad luck, but a good majority would know, these vaccines have had a negative impact on their health. Shortened their life too?
@GunnerMcDagget: Fear mongering is precisely what the govt and MSM are instilling in our population when reporting about covid cases and deaths. They lie, twist figures, brainwash and censor all valid and truthful information that goes against their agenda.
And as for the figures, you are not right again.
Firstly, here's the precise expanded wording from TGA:
Number of reports (cases): 68782 (Multiple adverse events have been reported for some patients).
Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 67701 (The TGA thinks there is a possibility that the medicine caused the adverse event).
Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 599 (These reports of death may or may not have been the results of taking a medicine).
So it's very clear from this wording that it's not just 9 deaths. They just either don't want to tell us or can't tell us. So it could be anything between 9 and 599. And, btw, there is data on TGA site which shows which adverse events have been reported, how serious they were and which ones resulted in death. And this data confirms that it wasn't just 9 deaths.
There is evidence that the real numbers are very high and much higher than reported.
Every fortnight there are about 10 to 20 reports of deaths following the jabs and about 2000 reports of adverse events.
These figures should cause huge concern!
Never in the history was any medicine allowed to be administered after these shockingly high numbers of adverse events and deaths!
There is a lot of publicity and evidence about huge under-reporting of cases.
Another problem is that there is double standard in the way the data is being recorded and presented.
They record any death as a "covid-19 death" regardless of the age or any pre-existing health conditions of the person as long as this person was tested positive for covid. Even if someone has been terminally ill or in palliative care or a 100 y.o. person their deaths are being recorded as covid deaths.
However, if someone dies following the jab, they are very reluctant to record these deaths as "jab deaths". They always blame them on the age, other health conditions, they always look for 101 other reason. But the fact is - if these people didn't get the jabs they would've been still alive.
There are thousands of reports from nurses and other medical practitioners that they are not allowed to report many deaths and adverse events as being caused by the jabs.
Some people go public on FB and Instagram and share their horrific stories and tell how from being young and healthy they have become severely injured and how the doctors tell that these sudden injuries which followed the jabs are supposedly not jabs related.
Just as an example, here's just one video with the interviews with real people with real names:
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/real-life-adverse-reaction-vi…
@bob19: None of that is true. This is what the TGA website states:
"Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 24 October 2021, approximately 34.4 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered. The TGA has found 9 reports of death that were linked to immunisation from 629 reports received and reviewed. The overwhelming majority of deaths reported occurred in people aged 65 years and older. The deaths linked to immunisation occurred after the first dose of Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) – 8 were TTS cases and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP)"
https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safe…
Side note, BrandNewTube was created purely to push conspiracy, pseudo-science and misinformation. It's one of the most rubbish sources you could provide.
You could at least use YouTube links like most other conspiracy theorists.
The TGA has found 9 reports of death that were linked to immunisation from 629 reports received and reviewed
Just like todays statistics on daily deaths of vaccinated vs unvaccinated…. All now kept secret.
Such a transparent process. Love you government. I trust you with my life.
@mikeangelo: You really expect the government to provide people's personal medical details to the general public?
@GunnerMcDagget: For transparency absolutely
Names, and addresses excluded obviously. But a report showing evidence an underlying health condition independant of the vaccine caused the death is very much required to close this off.
@mikeangelo: Well, here's the list of reports for AstraZeneca. You can search for the reports for Pfizer Cominary as well. If you want information on any additional report then contact the TGA and they can provide you the redacted information
https://apps.tga.gov.au/PROD/DAEN/daen-report.aspx
EDIT: Can't link the report directly. Just search Astrazeneca Covid-19 then click on "list of reports"
@GunnerMcDagget: HaHaHa…The figures and commentary which I have quoted come directly from TGA website. And yet you keep repeating that "none of that is true".
To make it easier for you, here’s' the link: https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-report.aspx
1. Select medicines - type Covid and then select all vaccines which will come up.
2. Select the dates - from 21 Feb 2021 (the beginning of vaccination) to 2021 (the latest date will come up)
Then you will see the figures I have quoted above and also detailed data about all adverse events and outcome (injuries, deaths).
It's really funny when people put their head in the sand and don't want to hear and see the truth and facts.
You may say anything you want about the reasons why BrandNewTube, Rumble or Odysee were created. In fact they were created because YouTube started censoring all information.
However, your view about the reasons why these channels were created are totally irrelevant.
What is relevant and important is that the video (which I linked you to) shows REAL people with REAL names who share their tragic stories. What does it have to do with "conspiracy theories"? These people got severely injured or died. Are you trying to say that they are fake people? If you are not satisfied, I can give you links where many other REAL people with open profiles share their stories in order to warn other people.
The problem is that YouTube deletes all videos with the interviews with some of world's most prominent experts - medical and biological scientists, medical doctors, experts in virology and epidemiology, cardiology, respiratory diseases, etc who until recently have been praised and glorified for their achievements, even awarded Nobel Prize but are now being considered public enemies by the politicians and medical bureaucrats.
And as now they are being censored they have no other way to express their views and share their expertise and knowledge but to use alternative media platforms.
If you watch and listen to them instead of watching and listening MSM which brainwash people 24 hours a day, your eyes would open.
Somehow I feel you are happy to swallow MSM propaganda, however if you are interested, I can point you to the relevant truthful information - information which is not politically motivated and doesn't depend on the millions or billions of dollars coming from big pharma.
Unfortunately, vast majority of people are too lazy and don't care. They lack critical thinking and struggle to analyse the facts. They would rather swallow what they are being fed with by the MSM.
And some are just scared to learn the truth as it can hurt.
@bob19: You keep equating reported deaths with deaths caused by vaccine. They're not the same thing.
And I'm not interested in reading another conspiracy blog or watching another video platform dedicated to conspiracy rubbish.
@GunnerMcDagget: It doesn't surprise me that many people are unable to think critically, to do research and to analyse data.
Calling world's most prominent and recognised experts in the field the conspiracy theorists and your own admission that you are not even interested to look at the available information, says a lot about you. You just proved that I am wasting my time on you.
You are a perfect example of a conformist brainwashed by propaganda. You don't want to think, you like when everything has been decided for you. And you are happy to beleive even outrageous lies. You would enjoy living under communist regime where there is only one ideology and one "truth".
Keep living with your head stuck in the sand and listening to ABC. And enjoy your multiple booster jabs. I sincerely wish you to have no adverse reactions.
At some point all the lies will be exposed but it may be too late.
The figures and commentary which I have quoted come directly from TGA website. And yet you keep repeating that "none of that is true".
To make it easier for you, here’s' the link: https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-report.aspx
1. Select medicines - type Covid and then select all vaccines which will come up.
2. Select the dates - from 21 Feb 2021 (the beginning of vaccination) to 2021 (the latest date will come up)
Then you will see the figures I have quoted above and also detailed data about all adverse events and outcome (injuries, deaths).
Dude.
What this site actually says is that they INVESTIGATED 629 deaths of people who had the vaccine.
Of those 629, they found that 9 of those deaths were actually caused by the vaccine. The other 620 people died for unrelated reasons (because everybody dies at some point).
The number is 9. It's not 629.
The 629 figure is not linked with vaccine related death.
If you're going to quote links and statistics, please read and understand them first 👍
We've given the vaccine to millions of people. And thousands of them have died. Because that's what people do - they would also have died without the vaccine. Because that's what people do.
@Nom: There isnt a single shred of evidence provided by the TGA to support their outcome, that the vaccine had absolutely nothing to do with those peoples deaths
The TGA has a one line sentence and that has you all breathing out a huge a sign of relief, that the vaccines are perfectly safe, and all those injuries reported online are fake or invalid.
C'mon !
God almighty, you are all so ignorant.
Ask the TGA to give us something, a damn report at least for how they diagnosed and determined the death was independent of the vaccine. Give us closure.
Theres way too many people coming forward with vaccine injuries, the TGA cannot continue hiding behind that poor one line statement.
There isnt a single shred of evidence provided by the TGA to support their outcome, that the vaccine had absolutely nothing to do with those peoples deaths
They found no evidence that the vaccine had anything to do with those people's deaths. It's really that simple.
Their findings remain true until evidence is found to dispute them.
If you want to dispute a state, then you need to provide the evidence to back your claim.
I'm not sure you understand the scientific process that we are discussing.
The TGA has a one line sentence and that has you all breathing out a huge a sign of relief, that the vaccines are perfectly safe
Of course - they are the clinical experts in the field. Unlike you.
@Nom: Just to show you, how idiotic your cucumber analogy is; I'll make your point for you.
The TGA are not required to provide a single shred of evidence the vaccine did not cause the hundreds of reported deaths after receiving an injection, because by default vaccines are safe.
@mikeangelo: I removed the cucumber analogy - I was trying to illustrate how you can't prove a negative, in the absence of any evidence.
But I gave up.
The TGA are not required to provide a single shred of evidence the vaccine caused the hundreds of reported deaths after receiving a COVID-19 injection, because by default COVID-19 vaccine injections are safe.
Do you dispute this statement ? If they can find no evidence the vaccines are generally unsafe, then … the only conclusion you can draw is that they are generally safe.
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@Nom: Absolutely, as a governing body responsible for ensuring the safety of medicines in Australia, they are required to provide evidence supporting the safety and assurance the drug is risk free of severe injury or death.
Any reported cases of injury and death after receiving such medicine, needs to be investigated with the outcome supported by evidence. In this case with the COVID-19 vaccine, the majority of outcomes was that the vaccines did not cause death. Where is the evidence to support their decision and outcome.?
According to you, it isn't a requirement, by default vaccines are automatically safe.
What a screwed up understanding of how the process should work.
Any reported cases of injury and death after receiving such medicine, needs to be investigated with the outcome supported by evidence. In this case with the COVID-19 vaccine, the outcome was that the vaccines did not cause death. Where is the evidence to support the outcome.?
I don't understand the question. As you've just stated, they did not find any evidence that the vaccines caused death in all but 9 of the cases under discussion.
If there's no evidence that a vaccine caused death, then the outcome is that the vaccine didn't cause death. Because there's no evidence to dispute that finding.
I'm going to the park, have a great day 👍
@Nom: Where is the evidence to support their decision
It should be publicly available to close out any doubt, instead they've left a one line statement, that says they've reviewed the case, and that's all.
You cannot continue to ignore the growing number of people coming forward with vaccine injuries and the TGA can no longer hide behind a small cardboard sign, that says reviewed and safe. The list of vaccine injuries are growing ! Bigger and larger rocks are being hurled whilst the smallish TGA employees run and hide, from an increasing angry mob seeking answers.
Where is the evidence to support their decision
The evidence to support that the vaccines are safe ? After giving it to millions upon millions of Australians, they could only find evidence of it causing the death of 9. That's pretty damning evidence in favor of vaccine safety.
You cannot continue to ignore the growing number of people coming forward with vaccine injuries <snip> The list of vaccine injuries are growing !
I see you no longer want to discuss the vaccine death rate, and you're moving on to talking about vaccine side effects. OK.
Of course the list of vaccine injuries are growing - the vaccine dose numbers are growing. And with medication comes side effects.
For the Covid vaccines, these side effects are well understood, and the more serious ones are extremely rare. When you give your informed consent to the vaccine, you're comparing the remote risk of serious vaccine side effects against the significantly higher risk of serious covid side effects - both in you, and in all the people you transmit to. One is very rare and unlikely in the vaccine recipient, the other is much more likely in the unvaccinated Covid recipient and all the other people along the transmission path.
There is a remote chance the vaccine will give you an inflamed heart or a blood clot, or a gazillion other things. There is a much much higher risk of inflamed heart AND blood clots when you catch Covid as an unvaccinated individual, for both you and all the lucky people you transmit to. Hopefully those recipients are vaccinated.
provide evidence supporting the safety and assurance the drug is risk free of severe injury or death.
The various Covid vaccines are not risk free of severe injury or death. Nobody is stating the vaccines (or any other vaccine) are 100% safe - this is the not the bar they need to clear.
The park visit was great.
@Nom: There are several cases of vaccine injury and more and more are reported everyday
You have completely ignored fellow Australians that have their lives turned upside down by a vaccine injury caused by the COVID-19 Vaccination.
I am discusted you have ignored the mounting evidence available to you.
Children 5-11 years old are a low impact group for dying from COVID-19
Children 5-11 years old are the next group to suffer a vaccine injury
THIS IS FACT
more are reported everyday
Where are these reports?
ignored the mounting evidence
Where is this evidence?
THIS IS FACT
Where are these facts?
@jackspratt: Get off your @$$ and LOOK IT UP, instead of refuting and ignoring all the facts around you.
There is overwhelming evidence
This is not a conspiracy theory
Vaccine Injuries are rising FAST
You are a disgrace for choosing to ignore and refute the unfolding situation, particularly in young adults who are coming forward having suffered a vaccine injury
Children 5-11 year olds are the targeted next group, the evidence is there to indicate they will suffer severe reactions and injuries from injecting the COVID-19 Vaccine.
GO, GO and GO LOOK IT UP, the evidence is overwhelming on vaccine injuries
You have completely ignored fellow Australians that have their lives turned upside down by a vaccine injury caused by the COVID-19 Vaccination.
Where have I done that ?
Nobody is disputing the very rare cases of serious side effects caused by the vaccines. We are fully aware that they are a thing !
I repeat : The various Covid vaccines are not risk free of severe injury or death. Nobody is stating the vaccines (or any other vaccine) are 100% safe - this is the not the bar they need to clear.
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