Apple MacBook Pro (13-inch, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Storage, 2.0GHz Intel Core i5) $1,999 (Model: MWP42X/A)
Apple MacBook Pro (13-inch, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD Storage, 2.0GHz Intel Core i5) $2,299 (Model: MWP52X/A)
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What if one needs to run Windows on it?
Run it with Parralels virtualised. Or if you are running Windows all the time, buy an XPS.
Doesn't it run like garbage on the M1s?
@Manny Calavera: Sounds like that, despite all the M1 glory I hear.
To be clear, it's a terrible value, these i5 MBPs for $2k+.
It has the benefit of being a heater in winter as well
Wouldn't even touch. Intel i5's are such a poor value proposition. Get an M1 Macbook Air if you're on a budget. Otherwise M1 Macbook Pro is the way to go.
Looking to buy a MacBook, is there a reason why it should be MacBook Pro over the MacBook Air?
Reddit seemed to suggest that the MacBook Air was better value for money with not a huge lot of performance difference
Think of it this way: Macbook Pro M1 > Macbook Air M1 > Macbook Pro Intel
If you can afford the Macbook Pro M1, go with that. If not go with the Macbook Air M1. I would avoid any Macbook that has Intel in it at the moment, comparatively they are terrible value IMO.
these are awful value now lol, basically no reason to get this over an M1
m1 is the way
Intel pros:
- Multiple displays supported (3 or more I think)
- Medium term software stability
- Bootcamp
Intel cons:
- TDP at blast furnace temps with the noise that goes with it (actually the discrete AMD graphics processors are more at fault here I reckon, I've found the GPU to heat up like a stove when simply plugged into a monitor)
- Not environmentally friendly in terms of power draw
- 14 nm dies (M1 is 5 nm I think, so more raw perf in a smaller package)
M1 pros:
- Anti-all the above
- Feels "snappier" and faster overall
M1 cons:
- Can only have one external display
The new 14-inch can run on multiple screens now
M1 Pro/Max can support 2 and 3 screens respectively.
You are wrong on just about all the points you listed. Biggest being display support, wrong for both. It’s quite the opposite almost.
It’s quite the opposite almost.
Sounds just as wrong.
Keep in mind the only comparable M1 machine, price-wise, is MBA M1. No pro/max for MBA and MBP with those are 50% more, which is substantial.
That’s my stupid ass reading M1 pros as M1 pro and not the Pro’s for the M1 machines. So i guess the person might be referring to the regular M1 which would be the air.
But than again, M1 air $500 cheaper and wipes the floor for most task with these. Except windows, but as it’s pointed out, these really aren’t intended to use windows with.
But if you must have a Mac that runs window, i guess they are a deal?
@Larsson: Yeh should have been clearer soz, I meant the M1 Air lol ("M1 (vanilla)", "M1 Pro", "M1 Max")
Agree with y'all that the Intels should be more around the Lenovo Thinkpad pricing. Just go for the M1 Air if in doubt.
this is not a deal at all and shouldn't be posted here.
Agreed.
I think the MBA with 16gb upgrade and the M1 chip is better value at $150 more.
M1 macs are such beasts. I'd rather a M1 mac air than a top spec'd intel mac pro. After a year of use I am still so amazed that these things don't have a fan and just don't heat up.
I'm running an M1 Mac Mini and I swear have never heard the fans turn on and the case is always cold.
alternative hypothesis:
hearing aid batteries gone flat?
Could be…
Please don’t. Go M1
Does Apple still buy Intel CPUs?
Many use cases for an intel mac (anyone using docker?).
I believe docker has native M1 support now. But even then, there's so much better value windows intel/amd pcs now. These apple intel devices have not aged well.
You'll need arm containers - that's the problem.
Yes they're expensive, but they run Mac OS and the build quality is better than any of the PCs so that value proposition falls down.
Basically you'll know if you need one of these over an M1.
Oops, I meant to say even then, M1 Macs are still better value than Windows intel/amd PCs now (I Just bought an M1). I am about to try it with docker next week (for the first time). So we'll see how I go.
@Timmayc123: I'd love an M1 honestly. And they seem to have priced the air and base level pro very competitively.
@jptaranto: Yea, I got one because they're just so much better than the windows PCs on the market. But, I am not sure if all my stuff will run. That'll be the fun gambit.
I have watched quite a few reviews on M1 MBA & Mac mini lately
very positive reviews and even the 8gb base M1 model runs like a beast.
seriously considering upgrading my parents' old intel nuc 5i3 to a mac mini, have not quite decided on whether 16gb ram upgrade is worth it or not.
@lhou021: I bit the bullet and got 16gbs of ram. People say m1 efficiently runs on 8gb, but I will see. Gonna try see how it goes with python, a reference manager, spotify, email and 10-20 tabs open simultaneously.
@Timmayc123: thanks, I bite the bullet this morning during black friday sales, and bought M1 mac mini for mum and dad.
16gb should be a bit more future-proof and last them a very long time.
you will need 16gb for programming and multi-tasking :)
save you $400 to get M1, much faster.
If you need a Mac that can run x86 Windows natively via bootcamp then this is actually a reasonable deal.
Obviously the M1 Macs are better on ARM MacOS but I don't think that deserves a neg.
The right price for this should be $1000, not $2000.
Honestly, selling these Intel MacBook is a almost a scam, only someone completely ignorant and oblivious of the new M1's would spend this kind of money for the much slower and more energy greedy old Intel version.
Yea, the second hand market is no better either. I saw on gumtree $1400 for a 4-5 year old Macpro with an i5, 16gbs of ram and 512gb ssd. Absolute insanity.
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No reason to buy an intel macbook anymore