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Craftright KN95 Dust Respirator $0.40 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ Bunnings

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This respirator is designed for adult use only. This respirator is not suitable for children.
Do not use this product after the inside of the respirator is contaminated
Tested to GB2626-2006 KN95

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  • +23

    Normal Price not a bargain.

    • +19

      And for a good reason, they are utter rubbish. The ear loop straps are barely glued in and come off with minimal handling. I bought a bunch of them and regret it.

      • +9

        Craftwrong

      • +13

        I respectfully disagree. Well made masks appropriate for reducing transmission of airborne particles. Hence far more superior than regular surgical masks that are effective at blocking droplet-borne particles.

        These, alongside other N95 masks, are what you must be wearing now. Throw away your cloth masks - useless.

        I've had zero issues with these masks. I use these outside the hospital.

        • Do you work in a hospital? I'm wondering if I should get these (and don't want to get something medical people think sucks!)

          • @sj2can: Yes.
            This is better than surgical and cloth masks. You don’t need to get N95 or P2 for community, probably too expensive and difficult to find.

        • +10

          A mere claim to be a KN95 mask doesn't make it good.

          Both the GB 2626-2006 standard (which this mask claims to comply with) and the newer GB 2626-2019 standard (which replaced the GB 2626-2006 standard in mid-2020) require a manufacturer to identify itself on the mask (not merely on the package). According to this report on Twitter, these Craftright masks do not bear a name or identifying mark on the mask. So that's a clear breach of the standard.

          If the manufacturer breached a very obvious and straightforward marking requirement, who's to say that it didn't also breach the technical requirements? In other words, who's to say that these masks actually do what they are supposed to? Maybe they do; or, perhaps, maybe they're good enough for most people. But people are right to be sceptical when there have been widespread reports throughout this pandemic of counterfeit or non-compliant masks.

          Whether they do what they're supposed to is not something you can conclude just because you have noticed "zero issues" with them.

        • -4

          So yours is professionally fitted?

          If not, useless.

          • @mdavant: 4 people with no idea about face masks.

        • +3

          I work in healthcare. These masks are pretty rubbish. Not anywhere near the quality of N95 masks. And even the healthcare quality N95s need to be professionally fitted and tested.

          Having said that, they are marginally better than the loose surgical masks - but don't be deceived they are high quality.

          • +1

            @Alex Brissy: Sure. In the hospital, where the risk of acquiring COVID is extremely high, these would not be suitable.

            In the community when you are safely socially distancing, sanitising and just following appropriate pandemic rules, these are just fine. The seal is pretty good.

            The way to test if the seal is appropriate is to check if the masks moves in when deep inhaling and out with forced exhaling. If yes, then the mask is fine.

    • Double price of what you can get from AliExpress

      • +2

        Ya but those stink

        • ..if you unlucky, yes

          • @alexshel: They are just made stinky. It's not luck. Go have a sniff you know what I mean.

            • @Poor Ass: Depends on your Aliexpress supplier. Don't buy from supplier you think supply stinky ones

  • +1

    Thanks baby.

  • +12

    They have been this price for quite some time. There are also packs of 10 for $4 (what a saving!)

    • +1

      There are also packs of 10 for $4

      and 5 for $2 if you really want to save money.

      • -16

        Where is the saving if the price 40c/each?

        • +42

          whoosh

        • +4

          You got them there with the maths!

    • Actually, I bought 10pk for $2 yesterday. Not sure about the quality, haven’t tried yet.

      • They don't fit properly. Better than surgical masks but meh…

    • +36

      I wouldn't trust anything from AliExpress with my health.

      • +44

        I would. Can't be worse than the NSW gov.

        • +15

          They're both about on par. Federal Govt is even more inept.

          • +14

            @KangaDrew: Scomo got elected with no future policy. It is clear from the get go. Australia decided to elect him to protect their own selfish interests.

            • +12

              @Creamsoda: 100%! ScoMo and Perrottwat are both winging it with their buzzwords, catchphrases and BS spin-doctoring. Inept, clueless, and treading water in the vain attempt to appear as though they're doing something while the country crumbles to a halt.

              • @KangaDrew: Australia's had one of the best country responses to the pandemic in the world actually, but hey that's irrelevant, lefties can pathetically try to score political points.

            • -1

              @Creamsoda:

              Scomo got elected with no future policy

              People vote with their pockets in mind, which is how we got him!

          • +2

            @KangaDrew: Both on par, but aliexpress would make a profit, while govt would pass on their blunder to the taxpayer.

      • -17

        May be:
        I wouldn't trust anything from "China" with my health?

        • +25

          Interesting take , hopefully you have luck finding a hospital that doesn't use PPE from China and or any RATs
          Pray to God you don't need any health services as well.

          • @astarman: That's why I said "may be"
            Only avoid if I have the choice! :)

        • +5

          You'll not be bothered by the lack of RATs then. Almost every TGA approved make is made in China.

          • +1

            @banana365: Dont worry, buy the Australian made one. The one with an 'Acceptable' sensitivity level.

            • +5

              @ATangk: Buy? Hell no, I'm going to go to regular happy clappy Hillsong wankathons and get the RATs confiscated from retailers for free!

      • -2

        Like KN95 masks? They're a Chinese standard and not allowed in healthcare. Must be N95.

        • -4

          KN95 is a Korean Standard.
          They both have a different use case and are tested differently.

          • +15

            @JPNx: Nope, KN95 is Chinese! Korea’s most similar could be KF94

            • +1

              @noren7: I knew it! King of Fighters 94 is developed by Koreans…thanks for the insight.

        • +1

          And P2 for healthcare* I should add.

        • +9

          N95 is not the preferred standard and saying it may be used in healthcare is incorrect.

          P2 is the Australian standard.

          https://www.australianp2mask.com.au/2021/09/22/p2-masks-vs-n...

          • @spaceflight:

            And P2 for healthcare* I should add.

            A few minutes too late. I already corrected myself.

            • @Clear: I saw you did that while I wrote my comment

              • +1

                @spaceflight: It's all good. Unfortunately you can't edit comments after you get a reply.

          • +3

            @spaceflight: That's hardly an unbiased site (the domain name being the big hint). Their first claim for superiority of P2 is that it's tested for a greater flow rate - 95 litres/minute instead of 85. If you're breathing that much you must be exercising very hard, so you're probably not wearing a mask anyway. 5-10 litres a minute is about the range of normal breathing.

            Even the government PPE guidelines refer to P2/N95 interchangeably, so saying one is preferred over the other is moot.

            https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021...

            • @banana365:

              Their first claim for superiority of P2 is that it's tested for a greater flow rate - 95 litres/minute instead of 85.

              The site makes no mention of superiority due to flow rate. It simply states the rest flow rates

              If you're breathing that much you must be exercising very hard, so you're probably not wearing a mask anyway. 5-10 litres a minute is about the range of normal breathing.

              You know these masks are used in other places apart from hospitals and in industries where there is physical exertion?

              Even the government PPE guidelines refer to P2/N95 interchangeably, so saying one is preferred over the other is moot.

              They are equivalent. However P2 is still the Australian standard so it is preferred for use.

              • @spaceflight:

                You know these masks are used in other places apart from hospitals and in industries where there is physical exertion?

                Anyone needing to wear masks where they're breathing at anywhere near 85l/m is either going to be using an alternative (powered external air supply, P2 masks with exhalation valves that negate the protection if the user is infected) or not wearing anything (as per government guidelines for hard exercise). PPE has to be appropriate and to claim the valveless P2/N95 is appropriate for high exertion is very misguided. I've worn mandated valveless P2s when working hard and it's not practical. The government body that mandated them said "take them off when working hard or walk away from the job if you determine it to be necessary".

              • +1

                @spaceflight: This is absolute nonsense. That's not at all how decisions are made.

                Firstly P2 masks allow for earloops. NIOSH with only minor exception does not approve of any earloops. For good reason - they don't seal as well as head straps. Thus, earloops respirators are not in the Victorian hospital stockpile. Second I know for a fact that N95s are in the Victorian hospital stockpile.

                If given the choice between N95s and P2s, the P2s are not "preferred" in any meaningful sense. Other factors mainly: filtration, fit, breathability, cost, comfort trump it.

                The one most preferred by hospital workers are the 3M Auras for those reasons above, and that's why it is the #1 mask in Victoria's stockpile is the 3M Aura 1870+, and you guessed it, it's a NIOSH approved N95.
                https://www.health.vic.gov.au/ppe-supply-update-for-health-s...
                https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/v101143973/

        • +4

          KN95 = Chinese Government approved
          N95 = US Government approved

          Essentially both are rated to 0.3 microns but if anything the KN95 should actually fit your face better and is foldable.

          • @4foxache: KN95 - no its not. There's no government body going around testing and approving KN95s like NIOSH does with N95.

            In fact Australia doesn't have a NIOSH equivalent to do that with all P2s before selling to consumers.

      • -1

        You and 70% of most Australians..

        KFC, Macca or HJ are much more trust worthy people

  • How do these compare against medical masks in terms of preventing getting covid?

    • N95 have to be produced to a standard that is enforced. KN95 is the Chinese standard that is the same standard, but the standard is not enforced.

      • +7

        I don't actually know, so someone can correct me, but I don't think we have N95 in Australia, we have P2.

        Apparently you also have to wear it properly and not take it off (eg, for eating and drinking).

        But otherwise they can filter out the coronavirus that causes covid.

      • +1

        What do you mean by "the standard is not enforced" can you provide a source or evidence of this?

        N95 is the US standard. KN95 is the Chinese standard. P2 is the Australian standard. KN94 is the Korean standard. They have minor differences but all are effective and very similar standards used in various healthcare systems around the world.

      • +19

        I thought KN95 is chinese equivalent?

        N95 : US
        KN95 : Chinese
        P2: AU/NZ
        FFP2: EU
        KF94: Korean

        • -9

          I always learnt that litterally the "K" means Korea.. I know KF is Korean no doubt.
          I just took KN95 was also Korean Standard also.

          N95 afaik is a whole different standard and test all together.

        • +1

          yeah OzB health pundits are not the best source of information

    • If you mean compared to surgical masks, short answer is these will be much more effective in preventing getting covid.

  • +1

    Is this good for protecting Covid virus ?

    • +94

      its too big for the virus to wear correctly, so unlikely.

    • +7

      It looks like some of you are misunderstanding @btissa, so here is a diagram to help!
      https://imgur.com/a/VXnrA6r

      • +1

        This is an obvious photoshop imo.

      • -1

        Oh you put the mask on only if you got covid

        • +1

          How do you know if you have it though? You can be spreading it before you become symptomatic. Just wear one.

      • +2

        Disappointed it wasn't in MS Paint.

        • Now that you mention it, so am I. Missed opportunity!

  • +20

    Data shows that N95 masks can be reused many times in rotation. So grab 7, label them Mon - Sun and rotate them. Data shows 3 days at room temperature, virus vanishes from the mask. So rotated once every 7 days, it’s pretty safe. So just get good quality name brand certified N95 masks like the 3M ones. Forget the cheap ones that basically gives no protection for the wearer, especially the ones from AliExpress.

    • -1

      Source please thanks

    • +3

      There's also the paper bag technique, get brown paper bags and label them 1-7. First day put your used mask in bag 1, bag 2 next day etc.

      Keep them in a dry area and you're good to reuse. I've seen conflicting info, some say an N95 is good for up to 200 hours, others say rotate the bags for 4 rotations (1 month) then throw them away.

      I am not bothering with the Chinese imports all over eBay, Catch and even being sold at Bunnings.

      There are Aus made certified ones available, they're a bit more expensive but affordable if they can be reused for a month or more.

      This isn't medical advice, DYOR etc etc

      • +1

        BonezAU, you’ve mistaken being ugly with COVID. Labelling 1-7 won’t help in this case, maybe seek out plastic surgery? 😁

    • +3

      In previous posts last year I posted a link to where they tested a 3M mask for like 30 days use or something like that and it still tested at very high filtration.

      It looked like crap but the point really was the people throwing these out after 1 shopping trip were really wasting them.

      (Got bored of pushing it lol. Back then people were upvoting deals for inferior cloth masks so meh)

      • -3

        In previous posts last year I posted a link to where they tested a 3M mask for like 30 days use or something like that and it still tested at very high filtration.

        The filtering ability does not decrease when you wear a mask.
        It can actually improve as the mask filter clogs up with the particles it has filtered (which will also make it harder to breathe through)

  • Out of stock for delivery

  • Hooray, actual dust mask available for dust!

  • These are comfortable masks.

  • Out of stock for delivery, and in geelong.

  • -1

    normal price

  • +1

    cheap but useful high-standard mask X
    expensive RAT kit & 4th/5th/6th..nth booster vac. ✔

    interesting

    • -1

      Main issue are these are not p2/n95, most likely similar to p1.
      Which you can get 50 for $10

  • +1

    Limit of 15 per person.

    Not sure if per person or just per order. Either way, to make the drive worthwhile, I did do two orders of 15 each.

    • +1

      Orders cancelled (Alexandria NSW)

  • Found the ones in the ten pack fit better. These ones are the same as the ones in the five pack and have the nose clip on the outside.

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