I was looking at this highly-rated bestselling book recently, and the Kindle price was about AU$23. Checked back now and it has dropped $20 to $2.99. For comparison, the hardcover price is AU$44.99.
Looks like an interesting read, for anyone interested!
CamelCamelCamel.
What's your point?
The stupid. it burns.
Paying for a discounted grift is still not a bargain.
Misinformation.
Remember doctors dancing and empty hospital beds ?
Do you think the government has people welfare on its mind?
Misinformation.
Is that really relevant in au context? Maybe the real scomo or the real murdoch
Dangerous misinformation.
imagine buying propaganda
*pays for Netflix
Commenting to neg for misinformation
How anyone can think that it's acceptable to write a book slandering a Doctor is beyond me.
So, when can I expect the $2.99 to be deposited into my account for getting this book?
This is going to lead to more deaths..
OK, I'll bite. How will exposing the lies of Feltchy cause more deaths?
Thanks OP
Crap
This website is quickly becoming a political boxing ring
Alternative views are sadly being misrepresented as Misinformation.
You can get the real peer reviewed science at the High Wire by Del Bigtree. No BS.
My guess is most people here haven't actually looked at the science before taking the vaccine, which isn't a vaccine because it does not stop transmission. The fact that it does not stop transmission means herd immunity cannot be met by vaccinating 100% of the world's population.
Learn the facts, open your mind. Furthermore, if something does go seriously wrong with the long term side effects. You do not want 100% of the population vaccinated as we will become dinosaurs if the bad effects are delayed. Who is right or wrong does not matter, but people here need to look at the tail risks. Where are all the statisticians on ozbargain calling out the Pfizer studies?
What happened to looking at the real science? I guess that disappeared once we started to accept the methodology of virology as God, especially when humans are prone to error.
and now they're talking about mandating covid vaccines on kids :|
You know that hospitalisation rates are 10x higher for unvaccinated people? That statistic has been seen in every country I have looked: UK, USA, Australia, Israel. So, the vaccines do work from that point of view. The anti-vax crowd still doesn't have a valid alternative strategy to keep society functioning. Some claim Ivermectin works but there are no Phase 3 clinical trials - there is also no long term safety data for Ivermectin at the numbers and sizes of dosages purported for COVID treatment, so we are in the same boat vis-a-vis vaccines there. Yes, look at the science but don't twist it…
Society can function without vaccine mandates just fine. There have been many alternative strategies to keep society functioning - namely in Florida and the Great Barrington Declaration. The issue is that you use the word 'valid' and I think what you really mean is approved by the technocracy.
If Florida is doing well enough for AOC to holiday there then I guess all her anti-Desantis rhetoric is exposed as pure partisan politics.
Seriously? You’re using Florida as an example.
Desantis is begging Biden for help.
@flashi007: All the sycophants said Florida would be a blood bath when they removed the restrictions and now AOC is holidaying there and they're around middle of the pack for age adjusted deaths. Sorry that facts upset you.
Of the 2016 ppl in hospital in NSW, approx 1389 (68.9%) are double vaccinated, and 627 are unvaccinated.
Of the 170 in ICU, it's about half/half.
Source, (Date of release 12 Jan 2021)
https://aci.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/69…
Vaccination does help quite a bit (I'm certainly not denying that), but it's not a silver bullet like some ppl think.
And it's not exclusively the unvaxxed filling all the beds. i.e. It ain't 10x.
LOL.I will use your figures.
In NSW, approx 8 million adults. 95% are vaccinated, so 7.6 million. 1,389 in hospital for COVID. So hospitalisation rate is 1.8 in 10,000.
5% unvaccinated, so 400,000 adults. 627 in hospital, So hospitalisation rate is 15.7 per 10,000.
You are absolutely right, the hospitalisation rate is only 8.7 times higher for unvaccinated, not 10x… My bad.
@seb: Fair enough.
You are assuming that it's only adults in hospital though, with that 95%.
In the pdf, it shows 78.3% of entire NSW population vaccinated.
Shrug. I'm not denying that it's almost all adults in hospital either.
Nor that vaccination doesn't work.
Anyway, in the US it was 3x during delta, per the cdc slidedeck.
Unvaccinated:
2.52/178.6 * 100/1 = 1.411% Hospitalisation
0.96/178.6 * 100/1 = 0.538% Deaths
Vaccinated:
0.1/21.4 * 100/1 = 0.467% Hospitalisation
0.04/21.4 * 100/1 = 0.187% Deaths
https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/do…
So it's probably at still near 3x at least.
@metalslaw: Of the 36 deaths today in NSW, 33 were at least double vaccinated. 3 were unvaccinated. 33/36 were over the age of 65 btw. Of the 3 under 65, 1 was double vaxxed, and 2 were unvaxxed. All 3 had 'severe' underlying health conditions (per cho statement).
So it could also be that the unvaccinated are holding on in icu for a lot longer, probably due to being younger of age. Where as the older, go into icu, then pass quickly.
Either way, I'm still not doubting that vaccination is worthwhile for the majority of ppl.
Just that everyone should have the right to choose, and to live with those consequences, whichever way they choose.
@metalslaw: If the consequences mean being more likely to infect others, including ppl who will die, and being more likely to clog up the hospital system, then there is a strong public health policy argument for mandatory or near-mandatiory vaccinations. Or, lockdowns.
Anti-vaxxers have been praying for an alternative like Ivermectin but so far nothing has panned out.
@seb: Being vaccinated or unvaccinated doesn’t alter your chances of infection others.
Its more likely you will infect others if being vaccinated as you might not have symptoms or as harsh symptoms so you continue on your merry way.
@flashi007: How so?
The main reason they say to get vaccinated is it reduces symptoms…so for some it would make them asymptomatic, but still able to spread the virus.
@metalslaw: Also you misread the PDF. It shows a 25-fold difference in hospitalization rates between unvaccinated and vaccinated.
@seb: My hospitalisation stats are based on cases/hospitalisation * 100/1, per group.
Basically, if you get covid, how likely are you to end up in hospital, or dead.
The vax showed a 3 fold reduction btw.
@metalslaw: Also note, I'm not saying you can't get a '25 fold decrease' using RRR.
But the ARR decrease is actually only 0.241% (based on using raw numbers per 100k).
Btw, at the start of the pandemic, the ARR was only around 1% for all the vaccines.
You can get the real peer reviewed science at the High Wire by Del Bigtree. No BS.
Can provide some direct links? I wanna read the exact ones you found.
Highly rated! By such intellectual heavyweights as "Tucker Carlson" and "Maguerite9 - Amazon Customer" XD
and a person who quotes Joseph goebbels, and did not explain how that quote applies to the book
Not a bargain paying $2.99 for anti-vax propaganda
What a load of rubbish. Seriously, people who believe this crap need to stop procreating.
Which bit is not true?
Not a bargain. If I want to read crazy antivax BS I can just follow my weird uncle on Facebook for free
Misinformation is worse than worthless, not a bargain.
Fauci is a criminal
Please elaborate?
Dr. Robert Willner Accuses Dr. Fauci and the NIH of Genocide in 1994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_8o8zlbiH0
It has happened in the past and it's happening again…
O'Keefe joins Bannon to discuss Veritas #ExposeFauci Bombshell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1ioCW3UX2s
This stuff is damning but the TV believers need someone they trust like Chris Cuomo to tell them what they are allowed to think.
Misinformation != bargain
THere's enough Qanon antivaxx rubbish pretending to be information out there for free. Not a bargain.
Funny how you assume you know what's in the book and assume that it's wrong. Maybe you should think about why Obama had an unmasked birthday party, why AOC chose to go to mandate free Florida for a holiday and why Feltchy doesn't wear a mask while in a baseball crowd. These 'true believers' don't act in line with their beliefs but they want you to, and you run interference for their lies. LOL
LOL you Feltchy cultists will do any mental gymnastics to protect your leader.
@Ghos7: I'm all for calling out the hypocrisy of politicians. From a look at photos and reports on the incident, it looks like "feltchy" haters having a tantrum.
I don't know as much about Fauci as I'm not American, something that many of the people commenting here would be wise to remember.
Looking forward to the sequel, the real Dan Andrews.
smh, sadly some people will probably think what's written in this book is real, I wonder if historians will look back at us and laugh at how stupid we were.
LOL you assume you know what's in the book and that it's incorrect. What makes you hallucinate these thoughts?
Historians already look back at people who trusted Feltchy when he said masks were paranoid and useless and then trusted him when he said the opposite was true. Historians are wondering where these people's critical thought has gone.
Name one. Name one historian, commenting on Feltchy or the absence of critical thought.
I've already heard Robert Kennedy Jr's comments I don't need to read his book. Besides the title doesn't coincide with public sentiment, if you write "The real" in front, you're not actually talking about "The real" accepted person in this context, it's not an auto-biography or an approved official biography, so it being "real" is extremely unlikely.
Ah, anyone who has done the slightest bit of research on Feltchy would know that he backtracked on his early claims that masks don't work. There is also footage of him referring to masks as 'paranoid' and not necessary. It sounds like you need approved sources though and don't define historian as someone who is a student of history. Do you need someone that the TV tells you is a historian to say it before you believe it? I imagine you have given up on independent thought all together.
Tom Woods holds a doctorate in History and has spoken about this exact subject. He also has a quiz website that I'm sure a smart person like yourself would ace. Give it a try and let us know how you score https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/ Good luck!
So are you saying that the only way to get the real story about a public figure is to read sources that the subject has either produced themselves or has authorised? I can see a big logic hole in this, can you?
@Ghos7: Our liberal friendly deputy CMO thought the virus wasn't airborne in early 2021.
Lol your stupid test. Knowing the aim of the test makes it easy. Got a broader data set? Or even better, something for Australia?
You live in Australia. Remember?
@ihfree: Of course you are going to come back with non sequiturs and mental gymnastics instead of being convinced by facts.
Par for the course for the Feltchy cultists. Go put your tinfoil mask on.
Lower price, so it's a deal.
I prefer OzOpenMinds to OzClosedMinds.
Both side have some good arguments and both sides have said some really stupid things at times.
Having a different opinion or political view it not a reason to neg.
I prefer OzOpenMinds to OzClosedMinds.
Or even better OzCriticalMind
OpenMind : If it is less than retail prize it is a bargainNNNnnnnnnnnn
CriticalMind : Is it really a bargain and do I need 1000000000 non rechargable battery
Misinformation.
Kindly remove this post.
Which of the ideas in the book scare you the most?
Soooo,, are we buying the book or not? 🤔
2yrs to sort this shit out and still in the same boat as before. In 2 yrs, hospital system should have been beefed up with significantly more ICU beds, more nurses, more doctors (we went the other way, stood down nurses and doctors). Instead wasted $ on vaccines that don't work. Other therapeutics could have been trialed and used.
I clearly remember in the early days if you take the jab the likelihood of dying or hospitalization is no existent. My father in law, dead. Double vaxxed.
The conversation needs to move away from vaxxed and unvaxxed to have covid or dont have covid. Finger pointing at the unvaxxed is just a load of crap.
Sorry to hear that.
The numbers speak for themselves - the vaccines do work. We'd be in a much worse situation without the vaccines. The unvaccinated make up 50% of the ICU but are 5% of the population
According to that data, 2,030 COVID-19 patients were hospitalized in New South Wales. Of those patients, 28.8% were unvaccinated and 68.9% were fully vaccinated.
Oh really? lol
Once again, 5-10% of the population are unvaccinated, yet they make up 28.8% of the hospitalised patients.
@ihfree: vs. 70%…….
We're quick to hear that the vaccinated in ICU / Hospital have pre-existing conditions. But you never hear that some of the unvaccinated might be in their for the same reasons, have pre-existing conditions, but oh wait, they're not vaccinated so lets make sure we just point out that bit.
@Danstar: 70% from 90-95% of the population vs 30% from 5-10% of the population.
And a higher chance of severe infection - the unvaccinated make up 50% of the ICU but are 5% of the population.
@ihfree: What if those in ICU are in their for other conditions? OR were unable to receive the vaccine due to medical reasons ?
You won't hear about that in the MSM or from the Government
What if those in ICU are in their for other conditions?
It's known that COVID does lead to worse outcomes for other conditions, so that line is blurred anyway. Ultimately, I think this is subject to the doctor's opinion.
OR were unable to receive the vaccine due to medical reasons ?
I guess that highlights the benefit of the vaccine and other preventative measures that were taken.
You won't hear about that in the MSM or from the Government
There are plenty of studies to read through depending on how much you care about the topic. A lot of the data is public. From your other comment, MSM is for profit and does see a benefit using any issues and taking a more emotive stance to sell advertising or drive political/corporate interests. One could argue that's a good case for a properly independent public broadcaster.
@Ghos7: How's that a backpedal?
Worse outcomes due to Covid… There are numerous articles on the topic which say that it's not always straightforward. Maybe line is blurred is bad use of language.
Here's an https://theconversation.com/died-from-or-died-with-covid-19-…
Example on worse outcomes:
https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/covid-positive-ankle-…
Trash. Save your money for RATs.
Lol, what are they gonna do?
Lol yeah, apparently if you catch one of the most deadly diseases ever you need a test to tell if you have it.
And if you do have, you basically just go home and wait until it goes away.
I still don’t get why so many people are in a rush to see if theyre positive or not.
Well actually I do. Fear.
@Ughhh: How?
Try this for a second. Think of life 2+ years ago and you or someone you love (partner, child, etc.) come down with covid like symptoms.
What would you do? Really try hard to disregard everything your mind has been built up to believe now.
I’ll tell you what you’ll do. You’d keep them home, make them tea, give panadol, etc. in a few days they’ll be right.
I admit, even my mind starts to be influenced by all the garbage we’ve been fed in the last 2 years when one of my loved ones have been sick and I have to tell myself “no”. Common sense needs to prevail.
Not a Deal. The same "information" can be had for free on hundreds of websites. I won't bother linking them as I am sure those who might give money to Mr Kennedy already have those sites bookmarked.
I was hesitant to get this book but after seeing what Dr Malone has to say I have purchased it. If you dont know who Dr Malone is then search for him on the Joe Rogan podcast
“I thought I understood what was going on from an insider POV. But this is mind-blowing. Anthony Fauci is playing precisely the strategy that he developed and tested during the HIV days. Bobby is on fire in this manuscript. The depth of information and facts, all carefully cited, is mind-blowing. It is a must-read. I think it will really help clarify what has been going down here. Thanks to the consistently dysfunctional COVID-19 response by Fauci and USG/HHS (US Government Health and Human Services Department), we have all become familiar with the terms "regulatory capture" and "Noble Lie." The personal opinion and bias of Dr. Fauci has been repeatedly substituted for evidence-based medicine, and we are all living with the consequences. But beyond this mundane incompetence, what this book clearly documents are the deeper forces and systemic, pervasive governmental corruption, which have led us to this point. Not since the reign of former FBI director J. Edgar Hoover, have we seen such empire building by a corrupt, longstanding federal employee who is long past retirement age. Dr. Fauci's apparent need to bolster a fragile ego has led to the almost complete systemic corruption of not only US HHS, but the entire world public health system. The consequences will be lasting damage to the reputation of the United States of America, US FDA, and US CDC as honest, independent guardians of public health, which has been carefully nurtured over many decades. The world is now able to clearly see that the US HHS has been captured and compromised by commercial interests. One unintended consequence of allowing and enabling this tragedy will be further erosion in domestic trust in the Public Health System, and in particular, in the entire vaccine enterprise. Global impacts are likely to include accelerating loss of trust in US and western pharmaceutical companies and regulators, and more rapid rise of Asian, Indian, and Middle Eastern pharmaceutical competitors."
—Robert W. Malone, MD, virologist, immunologist, molecular biologist
yeah, the same platforms that hid the Hunter Biden laptop and the lab leak theory as well as pushing the fine people hoax and the drinking bleach hoax.
US HHS has been captured and compromised by commercial interests.
US pharma companies have control of US health policy. And how are they using that control?
accelerating loss of trust in US and western pharmaceutical companies
Smart!
Why would they care about loss of trust when government bullies people into using their product and bans cheaper competition drugs?
Great, thanks OP. Looks like a lot of people are kvetching about a book they haven't read. Probably the same people who would trust Feltchy babysitting their dog.
There is no way all the negs have read this so they are just puppets.
There is no way all the positives have read this so they are just puppets.
it's a bargain lol. Upvotes don't mean they believe everything in the book, it means they're not scared of examining ideas. Almost all the neg votes are people kvetching about misinformation because the TV and tech corporations told them this guy was bad. LOL you're a caricature of yourself.
How is it a bargain when all the "information" is for free on the interweb anyway?
@seb: LOL you can't think of any reason?
You really do outsource all of your thinking to the TV don't you.
The positive voters aren't the ones making accusation about the book's content and accuracy
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We had people saying the same thing in Australia, after Fauci. Here's Nick Coatsworth, Deputy Chief Medical Officer, saying it's not airborne in May 2020.