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All-Clad 401488R Stainless Steel Tri-Ply 10-Piece Cookware Set $864.33 + Delivery (Free with Prime) @ Amazon US via AU

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Previous deal on Ozbargain was in May 2019 for $740.33 https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/459850

The cookware set comes with:

1x 10" Fry Pan
1x 8" Fry Pan
1x 2-quart (1.89L) Sauce Pan
1x Lid for 2-quart Sauce Pan
1x 3-quart (2.84L) Sauce Pan
1x Lid for 3-quart Sauce Pan
1x 3-quart (2.84L) sauté pan
1x Lid for Sauté Pan
1x 8-quart (7.57L) Stock Pot
1x Lid for 8-quart Stock Pot

Made in the USA, these pots and pans are extremely high quality and should last you a lifetime. They feature three layers, which is an aluminium core (known for good heat conductivity) sandwiched between two layers of stainless steel.

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  • +2

    anyone that has these: can you comment about how hot the handles get on a gas cooktop?

    • I can't comment to these specifically (just ordered them before I posted :P), but I have Ikea Sensuell stainless frying pan, and a Matfer Bourgeat black steel pan (both of which have metal handles coming off the cooking area) and, for average cooking times, it gets warm but I can definitely still use the handle with my bare hands.

      I did see a video from America's Test Kitchen where they were testing different stainless skillets, and they mentioned the handles don't get too hot during a cooking session.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzNOy10nz6s at around 4 minutes 20 seconds

    • +2

      Hi I have this set, first it's amazing 100% would recommend. The handles are long so I've never had a problem with them getting hot, however they are designed to be handled with a kitchen towel, if you find the handle design uncomfortable to hold just grab a dishcloth. Would recommend grabbing some bar keepers friend if you do buy these, as oil with inevitably polymerize to them if overheated. Easy enough to remove though.

    • +1

      I've only used A-C frypans and saucepans for like a decade now. Electric and gas. I've never had a handle get hot.

      The only thing you probably need to watch out for is having a handle overhang another (operating) burner. But that's gonna be the same with every material (or worse, if plastic)

    • the helper handle on the sautepan gets hot. but given it’s a 3qrt, you may not need to use the helper handle

    • no issues with the handles on mine getting hot …..they have a narrow neck where handle attaches to pan which seems to stop some of the heat conduction'

      bigger question is do you like the handle style and all clad price vs options from cuisinart and others at 1/2 the price …. patents on tri-ply have expired so lots of others now on the market ..,….

  • +2

    All-clad is the name in clad cookware, but for anyone looking for something a lot cheaper, I've had a good experience with "Cooks Standard" from Amazon. Here's one of their 10 piece sest, but as always, you're probably better off just buying the 3 or 4 items you'll actually use: https://www.amazon.com.au/Cooks-Standard-10-Piece-Stainless-…

    • These look really annoying to wash if they get dirty even a little right?

      • +3

        Theres a cleaning product they sell at coles called Bar Keepers Friend. Absolutely amazing how well it goes for cleaning stainless cookware. I had a (5-year old) stainless pan which was fairly soiled on the outside, about 5 minutes with a scouring brush and bar keepers friend and it was completely clean. Obviously they'll lose their polish but that is expected.

        • Can definitely vouch for this - I use it to clean out my beer brewing kettle. comes up sparkling.

      • The great thing about stainless steel is that you can use steel wool scrubbers on them, clean in 20 seconds. The surface will discolor over time, which I don't really care about, but a rinse with barkeeper's friend every few months will get it back to normal aparently.

    • Although I would have loved to get All Clad too, but I ended up getting Costco's steel set. Apart from weight, its amazing. I don't know how much better All Clad would be, but this costco one is good enough

      • +2

        I also have the Costco Kirkland set. I would bet money they are this rebadged. Visually and component identical and only the stamp changed.

        Further the new set is a match for some of the separate All-Clad pieces on Amazon.

        As to cleaning I just dishwash the triply set. I even really scorched one pan (boiled dry while I took a business call) and it dishwashed clean eventually.

        Heavy but worth it. Nice rounded corners for sauces and whisks and a drip line for condensation that works well. Only downside is the large rivet heads inside the pots but that makes them sturdy.

        • I would agree with you on the rebadging bit, I won't be surprised indeed.

          I mostly handwash them though, primarily because they take up so much space in the dishwasher otherwise and they are super easy to handwash (again, apart from the weight.. sigh!)

          • +1

            @rake: And they were as cheap as $280 at times. Got a set for my Mum, then one for me and nearly got one for the holiday house but they went to a new model.

            I like the clad heat distribution. For gentle stuff like ice cream base I can just feel the side and know I have a good idea of temps throughout.

            If I was after a set for me again I would buy this deal still.

        • It could be the Emeril line, rebadged. Kind of a budget all-clad range, made in China and whitelabelled by a cringe TV chef. Looks pretty close.

        • +1

          Kirkland set is made in China whereas All Clad are made in USA. Based on country of origin alone I doubt they are rebadged all clads

          • @jlao6: Granted they might have sold an old tooling kit or licence to the design. I am sure they either have a deal in place or are very lax in copyright enforcement. All Clad and Costco are both American companies. Two series of cookware the (triply and the new 5 ply) has identical elements.

            Either way I am very happy with them and if I didn't have my set I would go close to buying this even at this price. My request for an All Clad saucier for Christmas fell on deaf ears.

        • lots of all clad vs kirkland vs cuisinart vs cooks standard, etc. the otehr brands aren't all clad rebadged as all clad is mace in USA, others are are made in china, but the technology is the same, minor difference in thickness ……

    • +1

      I have some all clad, cuisinart and mauviel m'cook ….. they all clook about the same, differences are price, handle style,

      • This is what I was thinking, thank you!

  • +1

    You need to re-learn cooking when using stainless steel.

    • Where can I start?

    • You mean for frying? Yeah, I just got one stainless pan since moving to induction. Most of the time, non-stick, or seasoned carbon-steel is better, IMHO.
      Who wants three? I guess the people buying a whole set like this are just starting out, and buying based on looks and brand-prestige, more than from practical experience.

      Does anyone here prefer to use stainless frying pans most of the time?

      • Or starting over.

        I use cast iron for most proteins and a dedicated non stick for eggs but will get a sauce going in one of these or veg all the time. Pasta and noodles etc.

        • Of course, stainless for saucepans.

          I was mistaken and thought there were 3 frying pans here, but its only 2.
          The broad shallow saucepan looks very handy for browning, then transferring to oven.

          Nice set if you add some good non-stick pans.

          • +1

            @bargaino: I will admit I reach for that sautior more than the pans. Especially making a sauce for a crowd. The big wide surface gets it going quick and leftovers into the sauce and warmed in the oven the next day.

  • Not entirely related to the pots and pans, but why were these almost $4k from 3rd parties in 2020 (on camelcamelcamel)? Seems like it coincides with Black Friday and Christmas sale periods?

  • -2

    Seems like an awful lot of money for such a generic item.

    IKEA 365+ and SENSUELL would appear to have the same specifications, at less than half the price. Is it just a case of brand-name prestige, or are there real differences?

    (serious question. I've had bad surprises before, e.g. a steel frying pan where the aluminium inside layer was only on the base, not sides, so the sides burned on a high gas flame.)

    • +1

      Worlds of difference. In a set like this the heat is more even and retained, the shape is conducive to easier cooking and the try ply just functions differently to most cheaper disco (heavy disc on the bottom only) pans.

      Yes they will both boil water but it you watch it you will see the distribution of heat as it simmers. Longer lasting handles and better fit and function of lids. O corner where a delicate sauce doesn't burn because the whisk didn't reach it and it caught. More likely to stay flat and make contact with an induction cook top for more than a few uses.

      It is more money but for people who cook a lot they find it worth it.

      • Are you familiar with the models I mentioned, or just comparing to a random cheap pan?

        • +3

          I just went and looked them up. Images from all angles.

          It's not a dig. I have all types of cookware up and down the price range. I was just answering the question genuinely.

        • I can say that the build quality on the sensuell isn't that great. Within about 6 months of use the rivets of the handle got loose so the handle is a little bit floppy. Lost the receipt so couldn't get my warranty :(

          Anecdotal but I also find that the heat distribution on my sensuell isn't completely even and there are some spots (particularly 3 zones on my particular pan) where my fond tends to burn

          • @rysk: thanks!

            • +2

              @bargaino: That being said sensuell is definitely still a good purchase for an affordable stainless pan - very solid pans and get the job done… just make sure to keep your receipt or ikea family since they have a 25 year warranty.

              I would say my particular loose rivet pan is an outlier

          • +1

            @rysk: Your Ikea Family membership should have a log of your purchases. From memory the warranty is about 25 years so should not be an issue taking it back after a 6m period.

            • @Wolfy: For that specific purchase I didn't have ikea family. I ended up buying a new 3-piece set though. I like the sensuell pans - they do the job, but it's not the pinnacle of stainless pans.

    • +1

      I like my all clad for made in USA snob value, like my Mauviel M'cook made in france snob value, but bangs per buck hard to beat my $240 cuisinart tri-ply set if on a budget ….

      • Thanks, I didn't know they did a tri ply set. I'll take a look at them.

  • I got my wife the copper core All-Clad set for Christmas (>$2k purchase). She also got a Solidteknic satin workhorse pan. She now has 3 Solidteknic pans and uses them way more than the All-Clads. Will likely end up selling the All-Clads and going all in on the iron, she loves it. Will likely get their new Quenched range when they drop this year.

    • Aluminium is superior in every way to copper-core. You cannot even see the colour. A hundred years ago, copper was the best available heat conductor, but technology moves on.
      Whatever happened to graphite-core pans? In theory, even better. I think All-Clad made some, but it does not seem to have caught on. I guess aluminium is easier to work with, and good enough.

      • Copper was a better choice for our situation.

    • +2

      The holy trinity I think is Carbon Steel or Cast Iron Pan, Teflon Pan and a Stainless Steel pan

      Teflon for low-fat cooking, eggs, pancakes, etc
      Stainless steel for the high versatility, better fond when cooking
      Cast iron also versatile, with the caveat that maintenance is a bit more intensive and you can't cook acidic foods in there without compromising the seasoning.

  • For those wanting a cheaper version, essteele are also a good alternative

  • +1

    it may be worthwhile getting individual items. sets might be cheaper, but for example, this set comes with a lot of smaller pans/saucepans. everyone has different needs, but if i were to splurge on pans, i would go for bigger pieces 10-12inch pans, or 4-6quart pots/sautepans. there may not be a huge difference in heating smaller pans/pots

    • 10" will do one good steak …. 12" you can feed guests …. remember, with pans it's measure across the top and with sloping sides a 10" pan across top is 8" across the bottom …..

      tri-ply really come into it's own with pans so that the sides get heated ….. with saucepans because they typically have lots of liquid, it's not such a big deal as you heat liquid from bottom ……

      but better with a set of cuisinart or cooks standard or kirkland than 2 all clad pans for the same money …..

      all clad is mid range ….. wait till you try and buy Mauvlel prima-matera or Demeyere Atlantis …..somethings are just nice to have regardless of cost …like an attractive partner looking at you across the dinning table .

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