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Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe SSD $219 Delivered @ BPC Tech
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Why is there still a far cry 6 image on the page. There is some rainbow 6 promo on until end of month though.
Samsung SSD x Rainbow 6 Extraction Promotion https://www.samsung.com/au/offer/ssd-rb6-extraction/
From: 21st Jan 2022 To: 28th Feb 2022I keep going between this or the Western Digital 850 for my PS5?
If you get this you need to update firmware on a pc first.
Ignoring the firmware update. Which one is better. Samsung 980 Pro or the WD 850. I've haven't been keeping up to date with the current tech.
I'll be using it on my high end PC. Currently have a 500gb pcie gen 3 m.2. Running out of space.
980 pro
exactly equal, sn850 is faster in some aspects and 980 pro is faster than others. buy what is cheaper
i assure you there will be a 0% difference between them in real world use. absoloutely none.@spoonmugen: preety sure every review says sn850 runs hotter but i saw one review that checked the temp themselves and said it was in line with everything else
Summary:
- There isn't one that's 100% faster than the other in every aspect, but in general, SN850 is a bit faster. Neither is the current top ranked SSD.
- You need to update firmware on both, even if you opted for SN850, unless you don't care about running it on an AMD platform now or in the future.
- 980 Pro is likely to be a bit cheaper (you normally buy one during a Samsung promotion, ideally a cash promotion. Game vouchers could be sold, but there is risk).
- If you have only PCIe gen 3 support on your motherboard, you won't get the PCIe gen 4 benefits.
- Samsung SSD warranty is probably better (but it is something you would prefer not to use). My main concern with SN850 is a small percentage of user feedback comments regarding WD's SSD reliability issue. However, there is no objective measurement on this.
- While a heatsink or thermal pad isn't needed in general case, it might be still worthwhile to get one. It is unlikely you used the SSD to the extent it throttled during thermal on a regular basis, for a PCIe gen 4 SSD, it is still better to get one just in case.
@nfr: Seagate 530 (or a Phison E18 based SSD). Interestingly, most E18 based SSDs use Micron NANDs but weirdly Micron has not released an SSD with their best NAND in their own branded (Crucial) SSDs.
PCIe gen 5 SSDs are coming and there will be some interesting and somewhat shrewd cost effective PCIe gen 4 SSDs (i.e. SN770). SN770 got rave reviews and people seem to not care so much about the cons, I suspect it won't be priced cheap here initially.
@netsurfer: Actually the P5 Plus uses Micron's 176L TLC flash just like the better E18 drives and was released in August or something last year. Note not all E18 use Micron's 176L flash, quite a few use Micron's 96L flash. You don't want those. I mean okay they're still better than the E16+Kioxia's 96L drives but getting a E18 with 96L flash just seems dumb to me. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcr…
The P5 Plus doesn't seem to receive much attention, probably because the Micron DM02A1 doesn't seem to perform that well compared to the E18 or Elpis or WD proprietary that they use in the 850 and probably whatever Hynix eventually release, https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-p5-plus-m2-nvme… However IMO it's not a bad drive at 2TB and is seriously underrated definitely not worthy of being put together with the E16 drives like in the LTT tier list. It's also possible performance will improve with firmware upgrades although I wouldn't buy it under this assumption.
Buy whichever one is cheaper and make sure to get a fitting cooler as well. Both are way over the minimum spec that Sony requires for an SSD.
Would you have any recommendations for a heat sink that would fit in PS5 please @maxbon
Their payment system looks like something form early 2000s
Paid $249 last week, so of course the price drops. You're all welcome.
Welcome for what?
It's mandatory that after purchasing an item, it ends up being cheaper after your payment.
It's OzBargain law.
Samsung has better monitoring software, less heat and less idle power used. I chose the Samsung but paid a bit more for the factory heatsink model. If you factor a good 3rd party heatsink for around 30$, then just easier to pay more with factory heatsink. Up to the individual. I considered sn850, firecuda530 and this 980pro. The 980pro I decided was the better alrounder. Do your research. Speed is pretty much of a muchness between them. If the firecuda530 was cheaper, would have bought that.
How does it compare to the Crucial P5 Plus?
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B098WL46RS/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt…
Is it worth $30 more?
While I personally have good experience with Crucial SSDs so far (touch wood), P5 Plus is a Crucial SSD I am a bit concerned. Mainly because there was this youTube video where an youTuber tried to test a bunch of NVMe SSDs to simulate aging and usage over time. The simulation involved heating the SSDs intentionally (to simulate aging) and P5 Plus had old data retention issue based on that test.
Thing is, the youTuber did have the specs of the NAND, but only for P5 Plus, coz. only Crucial provided that information. The result wasn't that surprising because of the use of heat (with the SSDs not connected to the PC) and above the recommended temperature range. Anyway, I just cannot get that information out of my mind, even if it is technically more a simulation of SSD aging, rather than actual aging. Furthermore, there appears to be some compatibility issue with P5 Plus with his setup (which by now Crucial could have patched - not sure though).
If you must get a P5 Plus, bear in mind not to keep it in an heated environment too often AND do not keep the PC unpowered for prolong period of time. Power it up from time to time so P5 Plus firmware can do its regular housekeeping activities.
I don't know who this Youtuber is, but an artificial aging test is IMO the sort of thing very hard to get right. And notably this is the sort of thing where a sample size of one is basically completely useless so unless this Youtuber had at least 3 SSDs of each type bought at different times, their results should IMO just be ignored at least until someone else replicates them.
I'd note it's well accepted that modern consumer NAND tends to be quite poor with offline data retention whatever the brand, it's generally recommend you do not keep an SSD disconnected for more than 6 months, maybe a year at the absolute most. Also if there really was a problem with Micron NAND, I don't see any reason to think it's going to be restricted to Crucial branded ones, and there's no way the controller can really be said at fault for a disconnected drive.
So whatever your concerned about is going to apply to all Micron 176L drives including E18 ones. In other words, avoiding the P5 Plus because you're worried about their NAND because of some thing some Youtuber did but not worrying about a E18+Micron 176L like the Seagate Firecuda 530 seems flawed. (If the Youtuber didn't have the same problems with a E18+Micron 176L and wasn't aware these used the same flash, this doesn't say much for them IMO.) In fact, if this Youtuber did only test one drive of each as I suspect was the case, but didn't have the same problem with some other Micron 176L drives (well and of the same size or at least chips of the same density), this likely re-affirms the point about a sample size of one being useless.
Just purchased it - thanks OP
hey guys,
what would you recommend for a laptop with m.2 slot, my current Dell Latitude 7490 is running on a 256 SSD, and space is running out. Which brand/model will be good for laptops e.g. power consumption, heat, etc.Thanks in advance!
A quick search suggests your model has a SATA M.2 slot, so none of these Gen 3/4 drives will be compatible. (Confirm this for yourself, though.)
WD is one of the few companies serving this segment. Eg: https://www.mwave.com.au/product/wd-blue-500gb-3d-nand-m2-ss…
Is this Gen 3.0 or 4.0
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gen 4…
but real world usage makes no difference…
Same price from Computer Alliance delivered if you prefer them:
https://www.computeralliance.com.au/1tb-samsung-980-pro-m.2-…Their eBay listing has it for $204 after code "SNSAVE"
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/174454962054?epid=11041508975&ha…Thanks for that, seems like an OK price so I might as well have no excuse to finish my build this week
Oh. Now i dont have to wait for SE
Thanks op