Are Veggies and Fruits Overrated?

[Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 09:01
Last edited 08/04/2022 - 14:51 by 1 other user

I stopped eating veggies and year-round fruits. Still eating seasonal fruits like Mangoes because I like the taste of these MF. Once I started eating only meat, I stopped getting sick. My sleep quality improved. Constant energy all the time. Maybe my overall health improvement coincided with stopping consuming ultra-processed junk.

What is your experience? Have you done any such experiments?

Edit: 80% of my diet consists of meat and eggs and butter. I am in no way implying fruits and veggies are bad. Just asking are they overrated.

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    Yes
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  • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 09:03
    +88

    Maybe it coincided with stopping consuming ultra-processed junk.

    You can lead a horse to water…..

    If you seriously think that cutting out fruits and vegetables is the reason for your surge in energy and not the reduction of (I assume) things like fast food then there's no saving you.

    What are you eating then if not fruits and vegetables, to get your nutrients and vitamins? You must have some fun toilet sessions.

      • ESEMCE on 06/04/2022 - 09:35
        +33

        There is no nutrient that you don't get from meat or eggs.

        Without even studying, Vitamin A is a missing nutrient in both meat and eggs.

          • sjj89 on 06/04/2022 - 11:02
            +19

            @[Deactivated]: Maybe you could have said “meat, eggs and offal”

            • ripesashimi on 06/04/2022 - 17:23
              +10

              @sjj89: Offal is a type of meat called organ meat.

          • pegaxs on 06/04/2022 - 11:03
            +57

            @[Deactivated]:

            You have no idea about nutrition then.

            Lol. A bit rich coming from the guy who basically only eats meat, eggs and butter and is proud of pissing yellow.

            Please, I would love to hear more of your expert nutritional advice.

        • ripesashimi on 06/04/2022 - 17:21
          +12

          Vitamin A is also missing in fruit and veggies. All they have is the precursor of Vitamin A called carotenoids, particularly beta-carotene.
          Fully fledged Vit A, aka retinol only exists in animal and lab products.

          • Aureus on 06/04/2022 - 21:39
            +5

            @ripesashimi: Correct, but as your body has no issues converting beta-carotene to vitamin A it is a moot point. If anything beta-carotene is better because you won't die if you have too much of it.

      • KlyJuly on 07/04/2022 - 07:38
        +13

        There is no nutrient that you don't get from meat or eggs.

        Vitamin C is not found in anything close to sufficient amounts in meat and eggs.

        It is found in abundance in fruit and vegetables.

      • Scrooge McDuck on 06/04/2022 - 17:34
        +19

        It may have taken 6 months for you to notice improvements from eliminating processed foods. There may also be uncontrolled variables coincident with your efforts to improve your health.

        Regardless, I'm glad you're feeling better.

      • Kangal on 06/04/2022 - 17:48
        +9

        @peeltheonion So no veggies, huh? Looks at username.

    • cookie2 on 06/04/2022 - 20:54
      +1

      Some people don't need as much fibre as others to maintain seemingly regular and good bowel health. (I mention seemingly because just because we have no negative symptoms of a diet, doesn't mean there are none in reality) .

      • Makaveli99 on 06/04/2022 - 21:01

        Only time will tell……..well maybe some medical tests

        • cookie2 on 07/04/2022 - 07:27
          +2

          Yup, that's why checkups are important. Doesn't tell us everything but gives some indications.

    • [Deactivated] on 09/04/2022 - 19:50

      there is an argument for a more carnivorous diet allowing you to gain and maintain higher energy levels than a "balanced" diet of meat, fruits & veggies etc. i don't know how that would work given that the poster is still eating some fruits, but Pavel Tsatsouline spoke about it in an interview with Joe Rogan. it's on youtube somewhere if you are interested

  • SBOB on 06/04/2022 - 09:05
    +41

    Maybe it coincided with stopping consuming ultra-processed junk.

    nope, completely unrelated and would be 100% related to you no longer eating fruit and vegetables.
    I assume your wellness and diet book is coming out soon? Can we pre-order?

    • ak47wong on 06/04/2022 - 15:38
      +5

      You might still be able to find Belle Gibson’s one somewhere

  • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 09:06
    +8

    lol, good luck

  • CrowReally on 06/04/2022 - 09:13
    +44

    "Edit: 80% of my diet consists of meat and eggs"

    The best health advice in this thread: when preparing these dishes, make sure they are as cooked as you are (that is: fully).

  • nandystam on 06/04/2022 - 09:13
    +8

    Must've been the sunscreen they put on the fruits…

  • BigBirdy on 06/04/2022 - 09:14
    +14

    80% of my diet consists of meat and eggs

    Good luck with your stomach and bowel in a few years…

      • BigBirdy on 06/04/2022 - 09:29
        +25

        But after 4 years they seemed to be in pristine condition.

        Yea, I’ve heard a few smokers tell me that about their lungs

        • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 09:54
          -5

          Good on you

        • ddhar on 06/04/2022 - 10:07
          +5

          Some people have DNAs that defy science. An uncle of mine is a chain smoker (has been for 40+ years) and well into his 80s. He's outlived his own wife and son-in-law. Our family dubs him The Fortress.

          • afoveht on 06/04/2022 - 13:28
            +28

            @ddhar: That's no defiance of science, he's just an outlier within some pretty solid statistics.

            • BartholemewH on 07/04/2022 - 16:02

              @afoveht: Reminds me of the 103 year olds athey ask 'the secret to a long life' on tv, it's always 'cocaine and hookers' or similar.

          • DarwinBoy on 07/04/2022 - 08:45

            @ddhar: In the back of my mind I think imagine the extra years he could of got if he gave up smoking.
            That's when his time comes.
            I've never seen a person over 100 who smoked.

            • ddhar on 07/04/2022 - 09:04

              @DarwinBoy: Our family lifespans are generally in the 80s so he probably has not lost that many years, if any. It helps that he is not obese and remains active with work.

              He's definitely an outlier, in that smoking does not seem to impact him and few in the family even smoke.

              • DarwinBoy on 07/04/2022 - 09:14

                @ddhar: My mate told me his father working in an asbestos environment for years and the harm was minimised by his pack a day smoking habit by chance.
                I'm sure minimising appetite or reducing asbestos effects are good things but generally smoking isn't going to be doing us much good. But we all have choices we make.

                • NigelPearson on 07/04/2022 - 09:42

                  @DarwinBoy: Maybe the tar binds to the asbestos fibres,
                  so he can cough them up easier?

                  • DarwinBoy on 07/04/2022 - 09:47

                    @NigelPearson: Think it was something like that. The asbestos didn't have easy access or was caught or something.
                    But crazy the way things work sometimes.

                    • inasero on 07/04/2022 - 10:22
                      +1

                      @DarwinBoy: Medical doc here, can confirm. It's also protective against ulcerative colitis. I wouldn't recommend patients go take it up still!

                      • Intoxicoligist on 07/04/2022 - 17:24

                        @inasero: I learned this from House! So cool to see it confirmed in real life.

              • inasero on 09/04/2022 - 08:28

                @NoApostrophePlurals: "The centenarian went on to say that the biggest passions in his life were alcohol and cigarettes." Lol! This guy DGAF at this age

      • Drakesy on 06/04/2022 - 12:42
        +5

        So well done, you used science (trial and error) to cure your leaky gut.

        Pretty sure you can't cure a leaky gut with medicine anyway…
        As with most ailments lifestyle is one of the biggest factors, with genetics playing the largest role.
        Although discounting modern medicine is ignorant as in some cases lifestyle alone cannot fix things.
        Like smallpox, polio, ebola, swine flu, Aids

        • juki on 06/04/2022 - 20:47

          is leaky gut, an australian or internet name for crohns ?

          • cookie2 on 07/04/2022 - 19:14
            -1

            @juki: No, but you can get it if you have Crohns or ibd. From memory it's a hole in the wall of your bowel. Not normal tho.

      • cookie2 on 07/04/2022 - 19:10

        Have you done a recent endoscopy/colonoscopy tho? Only a colonoscopy and endoscopy are going to tell you what's going on inside, not how you feel. Just don't trust that it seems like it's in perfect condition, is all I'm saying.

  • SF3 on 06/04/2022 - 09:15
    +9

    OP should try onions.

    Onions contain antioxidants and compounds that fight inflammation, decrease triglycerides and reduce cholesterol levels.

    • cashless on 06/04/2022 - 10:55
      +9

      He did, but it made him cry

    • cookie2 on 07/04/2022 - 20:09
      +1

      Onions can cause intestinal upset for some too. They have sugars similar to fructose. Green tea would be better for these things I'd say.

  • El cheepo on 06/04/2022 - 09:15
    +30

    You’ve almost unlocked the key to true health, now just cut out water and replace it with Gatorade and you’ll be in peak form.

    • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 09:18
      +2

      I never drank anything except water past 2 years. I am not lying.

      • EightImmortals on 06/04/2022 - 11:11
        +1

        Like out of the tap?

        • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 11:13
          +2

          Yes

            • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 11:17
              +6

              @EightImmortals: What's wrong with tap water

                • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 11:22
                  +2

                  @EightImmortals: What do you drink?

                  • EightImmortals on 06/04/2022 - 11:22
                    +1

                    @[Deactivated]: Tank (rain) water.

                    • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 11:24
                      +4

                      @EightImmortals: I don't know. I don't seem to have any negative effects of drinking tap water.

                      • EightImmortals on 06/04/2022 - 11:26
                        -2

                        @[Deactivated]: OK cool.
                        We probably didn't either in hindsight but we do feel much better these days. A lot of those chemicals, especially sodium fluorsilicate can have cumulative effects to you might get health issues years down the track and not be able to pin down the cause. If you have access to options why not give it a try and see how you feel?

                      • Ozschmargain on 07/04/2022 - 14:55
                        +4

                        @[Deactivated]: calcified pineal gland from the fluoride. It denies you access to travel to the other dimensions to which the pineal gland is the gateway…

                        • cheeksahoy on 08/04/2022 - 14:08
                          +1

                          @Ozschmargain: Of course, that's when you need a Resonator to see beyond perceptible reality.

                    • Mistredo on 07/04/2022 - 23:46

                      @EightImmortals: How do you collect the water? All dust particles on your roof or whatever you use to collect it will be in your water.

                      • EightImmortals on 08/04/2022 - 06:30

                        @Mistredo: We put it through a durand ceramic filter before drinking, also we add hydrosil to the tank.

    • jellykingdom on 06/04/2022 - 10:14
      +25

      But its got electrolytes. Its got what plants crave!

      • Kangal on 06/04/2022 - 17:51
        +3

        Like out of the toilet?

        • UFO on 07/04/2022 - 23:34
          +1

          Brawndo has got what plants crave!

          • imurgod on 08/04/2022 - 13:59

            @UFO: I was just at the cinema watching "Ass"… what did I miss?

    • Deals For Days on 06/04/2022 - 16:36
      +7

      Forget Gatorade. Brawndo has what plants crave.

      • UFO on 07/04/2022 - 23:36
        +1

        I didn't see your post before saying the same thing.

        Oh, and welcome to Costco… I love you.

    • Vote for Pedro on 06/04/2022 - 16:50
      +1

      Lololol. Great movie

    • Makaveli99 on 06/04/2022 - 21:05

      Lol Gatorade is terrible, only advertisements have got people brainwashed, thinking it’s healthy.

      • chriise on 07/04/2022 - 20:23
        +2

        I don’t know if I’m missing the joke here, but who in the world considers Gatorade to be healthy?

    • BartholemewH on 07/04/2022 - 16:03
      +1

      "This is what peak performance looks like"

      • OP, probably
  • netjock on 06/04/2022 - 09:16

    I can see eating 80% meat and eggs being good for majority of the population but you might just have that kind of DNA.

    Without a doubt the meat eaters / vegetarians / vegans will be out in force for this.

    I've met someone who never ate any vegetables, just meat. They had fake meat with us for dinner and they didn't die but eating meat only allowed them to survive from child hood to adult hood.

  • saintpotter on 06/04/2022 - 09:22
    +8

    How does your mind go to your increased energy coming from stopping fruits and vegetables and saying MAYBE it coincided with stopping consuming ultra-processed junk?

    Like just MAYBE it was the junk food?

    • Makaveli99 on 06/04/2022 - 21:07

      Oh so mind might be impacted, ah unlucky

  • Archi on 06/04/2022 - 09:22

    if 80% is meat and eggs and butter,

    what is the other 20%..?

    • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 09:26
      +1

      Onions, rice, greek yoghurt, spices etc

  • sjj89 on 06/04/2022 - 09:23
    +3

    How old are you
    And have you had a blood test

    • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 09:29
      -4

      How old are you

      35

      And have you had a blood test

      I do every year. If you are worried about cholesterol then you seem to be behind in the science. Anyway, they are within the guidelines.

      • sjj89 on 06/04/2022 - 10:17
        +8

        I never indicated concern about cholesterol regarding blood testing.
        More thinking Vitamin C

        • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 10:26
          +1

          I don't think they check Vitamin C in regular blood tests. As it is a water-soluble vitamin it doesn't store in your body anyway. If I don't feel sick in 2 years even though not changing any of my hygiene (like washing hands or using sanitiser). Maybe I am getting enough.

          • girlshaped on 08/04/2022 - 09:19
            +3

            @[Deactivated]: You stopped getting sick around the time everyone started isolating at home? Funny that.

      • maverickjohn on 06/04/2022 - 19:03

        Haem iron definitely increases cholesterol level. Just be careful man.

  • PissLUR on 06/04/2022 - 09:25

    Yea. Fruit is overrated. You can totally avoid eating any.

    • Kangal on 06/04/2022 - 17:52
      +1

      Username checks out

  • DemocracyManifest on 06/04/2022 - 09:29

    When I feel like crap, I have a good steak. I usually feel better afterwards. I’m sensitive to fructose so I don’t really eat fruit. I’m a sucker for potatoes and I know they are basically big carb rocks.

    • juki on 06/04/2022 - 20:50
      +1

      should have horse steak and a glass of red wine, that used to pick me up in the middle of cold winter blues. strangely people there also ate a lot of potatoes

      • DemocracyManifest on 07/04/2022 - 19:51

        I assume you didn’t get the horse in au?

        • juki on 07/04/2022 - 20:12
          +1

          unfortunately not, some restaurants have said its possible but complicated

      • chriise on 07/04/2022 - 20:25
        +1

        France?

        • juki on 07/04/2022 - 20:40
          +2

          i was an impoverished student there but other European countries a little more to the east also

    • Ozschmargain on 07/04/2022 - 14:58

      Carb rocks with a pretty big nutrient spectrum. They allowed the irish to expand to the point where one potato blight killed many.

      How many potatoes does it take to kill an irishman?

      none

  • Cheaplikethebird on 06/04/2022 - 09:46
    +23

    Rogan fans lol

    • Fergy1987 on 06/04/2022 - 09:49
      +7

      I thought the same thing, Joe must be bored if hes on Ozbargain

      • AustriaBargain on 06/04/2022 - 10:07
        +8

        If I made as much money as Joe just from telling any old lie that pops into my head, I think I'd probably stop looking for bargains on remote control poos and Hungry Jacks meals. The money he made from pretending a brand of coffee could cure all disease is probably more than the total savings every combined member of OZB has ever achieved here.

      • Cheaplikethebird on 06/04/2022 - 09:54
        +27

        Good for you dude, really. Just don't kid yourself that you have any greater insight than the average person because you've listened to a few podcasts.

        • [Deactivated] on 06/04/2022 - 09:56
          +8

          No, not really. This is my experience or experiment and not in any way advocated by anyone.

          • Cheaplikethebird on 06/04/2022 - 09:59
            +2

            @[Deactivated]: If you wanna try getting some veges in I eat a scramble with half a carton of egg whites with 150g of frozen chopped spinach for breakfast. As someone who grew up avoiding fruit and veg it's a great way to get some greens in.

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