Monkeypox, Coming to Australia, More Lockdowns?

Lrektrading on 20/05/2022 - 15:48

https://twitter.com/teozka/status/1526505294083276800
Yesterday, @UKHSA reported four cases of monkeypox (MPX) in gay and bisexual men in England, making a total of 7 cases nationally.
So what's going on with monkeypox (MPX)?
https://t.co/lpefCO16uV

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1527028273443741696
JUST IN: A Massachusetts resident has tested positive for monkeypox, the state health department confirms.
https://t.co/0RBA2F11Rb

https://twitter.com/StockwellBilly/status/152691248838993920…
Eight suspected new cases of Monkeypox in Spain, all in gay or bisexual men. In the UK, gay or bisexual men make up over 50% of all cases (4/7). What’s going on?
https://t.co/IXOyPrFo8F

Is 🙈 🙊 🙉pox something people should be worried about?

Can people expect more 🔑 down and will rekt the economy, again?

Health & Beauty Monkeypox

Comments

  • Savas on 20/05/2022 - 15:53
    +31

    they said it doesn't spread easily from person to person… but that's what they first said about covid.

    • rektrading on 20/05/2022 - 15:55
      +12

      Monkeypox is blowing up my feed.

      Rona wasn't a thing and then it exploded in a matter of weeks.

      • GG57 on 20/05/2022 - 16:16
        +9

        Have you never heard of smallpox, aids, etc?

        • LFO on 21/05/2022 - 11:08
          +1

          Syphilis?

      • [Deactivated] on 22/05/2022 - 22:40
        +10

        It seems that LunaPox or TerraPox is trending now…

        • rektrading on 22/05/2022 - 22:41
          +1

          😆

        • SolitaryMan on 23/05/2022 - 11:40
          +4

          That virus is quite localised and only affects you in the hip-pocket region.

      • filmer on 23/05/2022 - 09:44
        +4

        Also seems as though Monkeypox isn't starting in a country that is attempting to hide its existence.

        • lonewolf on 23/05/2022 - 21:41

          Makes a big difference i reckon as early knowledge and being able to act is very useful.

    • CalmLemons on 22/05/2022 - 00:19
      +3

      We need not worry about it.

      From the nature of the articles it appears to be spreading between close contact only, especially in males. Umph.

      • yadq on 22/05/2022 - 05:38
        +7

        Sexist disease?

        • Savas on 22/05/2022 - 07:55
          +2

          seems homophobic

      • SlavOz on 25/05/2022 - 09:08
        +4

        They said this about COVID early on too. Experts were originally laughing at the idea that you could catch it just by walking past the wrong person at the shops - which is true, almost 90% cases of COVID were from close contact transmission. But if the last 2 years have shown anything, it's that our reaction to health threats are based very little on science and realism and almost purely on political and commercial interests.

        If they want to turn monkeypox into the next COVID, they will, facts and science be damned. People have already shown they'll do anything the TV tells them.

        Remember guys, it's going to be a PANDEMIC OF THE UNVACCINATED.

        • bargaino on 02/06/2022 - 21:31

          Your username reminds me. Slavic countries have some of the lowest vaccination rates and highest death rates from covid in the world.
          Well, they are not reporting it, but based on the high excess mortality we can deduce it.
          What's going on there? All I know is that tennis player.

          • SlavOz on 02/06/2022 - 23:06
            +1

            @bargaino: Variety of things. Poor healthcare, low income etc. Many Slavic countries just broke away from communism 30 years ago, distrust of the government is still very high.

            Socially, they're also very religious and homogeneous societies, so the appeal of getting vaccinated/masking up to join a movement or be part of a community didn't work on them. They already have strong communities and social priorities, unlike Australia and Canada which turned covid compliance into a cultural identity due to a lack of anything else to feel "proud" of. People will do anything to find purpose. Slavic countries have theirs. It's family, culture, God, national pride etc. Many Western societies don't have that so naturally they're very susceptible to adopting something that fills the void.

            • bargaino on 02/06/2022 - 23:40
              -1

              @SlavOz: So science and logic fills a void left by loss of religion and superstition?

              • SlavOz on 03/06/2022 - 09:38

                @bargaino: If you can look at the last 3 years and conclude that everything was just science and logic, then you're just proving how much of a cult the movement is.

                Forcing kids to mask up or healthy 23-year olds to get vaccinated, while saying nothing about the massive risk of death among obese people, is not logic or science.

                You're a victim of mass formation psychosis

                https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/90470/what-is-mass-formati…

                • bargaino on 03/06/2022 - 10:29

                  @SlavOz: Hardly everything. Politicians were accused of being slow to respond as it was, and could not afford long studies.
                  Masks and vaccination have proven benefits, even if not always what we hoped. A lot of the time we are going on expert advice, which is based on limited evidence. We do our best, and are prepared to change policy with new evidence or circumstances.

                  Those 23yo spread infection to other people. Look at Yugoslavia and see what a hell-hole that selfish tribal attitude can lead to.
                  Why are you so resentful of making a small sacrifice for the greater benefit of others?
                  OTOH, if you live in Melbourne, and went through that excessive lockdown, I can understand your feelings.

                  • SlavOz on 03/06/2022 - 10:56
                    +2

                    @bargaino: Mate, people were beaten senseless in our streets for daring to go outside. Police gathered in groups of thousands to make sure people weren't gathering in groups of 2 or more. Customers were allowed to enter a shop unvaxxed but the people working there needed to be vaxxed. The lockdown rules were lifted for the footie grand final or BLM protests. Star City casino and other large businesses didn't need to follow the same advice as the local bakery. Dan Andrews recently mandated another booster shot for teachers against the advice of some health experts. Our vaccine passport checks never recognised natural immunity which has been shown to be even more effective than the vaccine.

                    Australia is the most vaxxed country in the world yet we have one of the highest infection rates in the world yet we are still insisting everyone must get vaxxed to keep their neighbours safe.

                    This is not science. It's not based on advice. It's voodoo rituals dictated by commercial/political interests and adopted by people who are
                    desperate to fit in and feel like they're part of a trendy movement.

                    • bargaino on 03/06/2022 - 11:33

                      @SlavOz: Surely you realise that the high current infection rate is a result of keeping the virus out before now?

                      You may ask what was the point, since we just delayed the infection numbers. The answer is obvious if you look at mortality.

                      Is this what you want? https://balkaninsight.com/2021/10/12/serbian-officials-knew-…

                      • SlavOz on 03/06/2022 - 12:47
                        +2

                        @bargaino:

                        The answer is obvious if you look at mortality.

                        Is it? There are more COVID deaths this year than there were in previous years (before everyone was vaxxed).

                        Is this what you want?

                        Oh sure, let's just pretend Australia and other countries weren't rorting the data either. Please. The government never even acknowledged that they count anything as a COVID-death as long as the person was positive. We had cancer patients dying from a 5 year tumor that they included in the COVID death toll. How exactly does that serve in the public's best interest?

                        Hospitalisations were even worse. Kids coming in with broken arms, testing positive for COVID a day after being admitted (very likely they caught it at the hospital) and the government says that's a COVID-caused hospitalisation, which is not only flat out misinformation, it needlessly stirs public fear and panic.

                        Funny how the media only reveals failures of small-country governments during COVID. When a Western country stuffs up, they stay silent.

                        • bargaino on 03/06/2022 - 12:49

                          @SlavOz:

                          There are more COVID deaths this year than there were in previous years

                          Seriously?? The reason is blindingly obvious.

                          • sn00ze on 03/06/2022 - 13:24

                            @bargaino: what's not so blindingly obvious is the 'All cause mortality' Australians have suffered since Feb 2022 -
                            All Cause Mortality

                          • SlavOz on 03/06/2022 - 13:53
                            +1

                            @bargaino:

                            The reason is blindingly obvious.

                            Why is that? Because we finally let everyone out of their homes and resumed normal function?

                            Well, of course. That was the whole point the vaccine. The vaccine was supposed to be our ticket out of lockdowns and restrictions, giving us the confidence to safely open up without seeing high deaths.

                            It obviously failed. We opened up and people are still dying in excess.

                            Clearly, we were either scammed by big pharma or they injected us with something that even the health experts can't even predict the way it will behave. If you took the jab, I hope for your sake there are no more nasty surprises coming, but there have been plenty so far. We clearly have no idea how this thing works. The people who held off definitely made a sound decision.

    • gimli on 22/05/2022 - 21:39
      +2

      apparently spreads easily to monkeys…
      …so i'm in trouble.

    • iminabrons on 23/05/2022 - 18:29
      +1

      Who is this "They" your imagination created?
      I live on the same planet as you and possibly the same country, and I don't recall any reputable person saying that "it doesn't spread easily from person to person". In Australia, we call that s**t stirring.

      • Savas on 24/05/2022 - 08:42
        +3

        On 14 January, WHO said: “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in Wuhan, China.”

        https://www.theweek.co.uk/coronavirus/106650/coronavirus-wha…

        • iminabrons on 26/05/2022 - 11:52
          +3

          I did qualify my comment by adding "reputable". The "Chinese authorities " wouldn't be regarded as reputable by the average person. Would they be regarded as reputable to you?

          • Savas on 26/05/2022 - 11:59
            +1

            @iminabrons: I would’ve considered the World Health Organisation as reputable.

    • [Deactivated] on 23/05/2022 - 20:12
      +1

      That's what they said officially but most people who were actually seeing covid patients knew that was bullshit from the beginning.

  • Muzeeb on 20/05/2022 - 15:54
    +23

    Thanks to your links I've now used Twitter 5 times in my life. Cheers for the experience.

    • rektrading on 20/05/2022 - 15:58
      -3

      I get all my feed from TWTR. Quick and short clips of what's trending.

      • whatwasherproblem on 20/05/2022 - 16:11
        +1

        Are they saying anything about it on the chans? (Pro-tip: they, uh, won't be calling it 'monkey'pox over there probably, those lovable hooligans. So you'll want to change your search keywords appropriately.)

      • Fobsessive on 23/05/2022 - 22:14

        Twt*

    • pegaxs on 20/05/2022 - 16:31
      +14

      Do you mean that you dont actually get all your facts from Twitter? Twitter is my only source for facts… Thanks Lord Elon for keeping my knowledge base free of misinformation.

      • rektrading on 20/05/2022 - 16:54
        +2

        I don't use TWTR for facts. It's an indicator of what's trending.

        • GG57 on 20/05/2022 - 16:56
          +24

          An indicator of what's trending <on Twitter>.
          Not in real life.

          • whatwasherproblem on 20/05/2022 - 16:59
            +16

            @GG57: And not even that. It's an indicator of what's trending <on Twitter (as long as the soyjannies agree with it and it fits their own personal definitions of newsworthy)>

          • rektrading on 20/05/2022 - 17:12
            -4

            @GG57: My feed shows a wide variety of verified professional people.

            It's a mixed list from all forms of degen traders to race car drivers, athletes (current and retired), MMA, doctors, engineers, PhD, underwear sales and models, lawyers, economists, builders, Presidents, lawmakers, news media, devs, farmers, CPA, CEO, billionaires, millionaires, white and blue collars, miners, writers, TA, OCTA, etc.

  • avoidfullprice on 20/05/2022 - 15:55
    +15

    Is it another Ponzi scheme?

    • rektrading on 20/05/2022 - 15:59
      +12

      I'm not sure.

      May be Bill Gates knows how to make money on this.

      • digressfool on 20/05/2022 - 16:18
        +7

        Monkeycoin? Coinpox? I reckon we can make this happen bro

  • axlfan on 20/05/2022 - 16:03
    +3

    Some reports mention it's more prevalent among gay men.

      • DogGunn on 20/05/2022 - 16:14
        +16

        Look it would be a good time to delete this post.

        If you wanted the answer to this question you could look it up, but instead you posted this nonsense.

          • DogGunn on 20/05/2022 - 16:26
            +15

            @TongJoe: What the heck are you on about?

            EDIT: Oh your account is 20 mins old. It's a troll account. Nevermind.

      • Binchicken22 on 21/05/2022 - 21:51
        +7

        Mate, it's pretty simple, it's literally because they do butt stuff at a lot higher prevalence than straight people. Butt stuff can cause microtears (or just straight up tears if someone's rough I guess) and allows a path for viruses to enter the body. This along with the fact that gay men generally are more promiscuous and have more partners than straight people.

        The two combined is, unfortunately for gay men, a bad combination when it comes to virus and STI transmission.

        • cookie2 on 22/05/2022 - 07:38
          +6

          Looks like you got negged too. Ppl are a little sensitive over here

          • Binchicken22 on 22/05/2022 - 07:47
            +6

            @cookie2: Yep… Thought I probably would have, most likely not even by a "gay" bloke, just some moron who spends their time being "offended" for others.

            Nothing I said was offensive, I'm not disparaging gay people, I'm just stating the facts.

        • OzBarAnon on 22/05/2022 - 14:54
          +1

          Yeah, same reason why AIDS is much more prevalent among the gay population

      • greatlamp on 21/05/2022 - 23:35

        Wouldn't it be more likely- and much simpler- if the virus was transmitted only via blood - i.e. unprotected sex, like HIV?

        First case from a monkey bite maybe.
        Wild animals are filled with diseases, many which don't kill them, but may kill us as our biology is slightly different.

      • cookie2 on 22/05/2022 - 07:44

        I'm not sure if you're being negged for your mention of gay and possibility of being born gay or if it's your idea of it targetting gay people. Is that what you're wondering, if the virus could be only targetting gay people? I think this is extremely unlikely. I am interested in learning how contagious it is and starting point, main inflection transmission etc tho.

    • Lastchancetosee on 21/05/2022 - 10:31

      @Axifan That was in the blurb in The Glorious Advertiser today, along with Lord Moloch's preferences for the election results.

  • digressfool on 20/05/2022 - 16:10
    +2

    Coming soon to a 7/11 near you! https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-20/nsw-identifies-probab…

    • rektrading on 20/05/2022 - 16:12
      +4

      Key points:
      The men in their 30s and 40s are both recently returned travellers
      Both cases are experiencing mild symptoms and isolating
      Victorian health authorities are warning contacts of the monkeypox case to monitor for symptoms

      That was fast.

      Has anyone seen 12 🙈 🙊 🙉?

      • digressfool on 20/05/2022 - 16:21
        +2

        Negative, but there are more than 12 monkeys in Melbourne zoo

      • iDroid on 20/05/2022 - 17:27

        No, only 2 so far.

      • morse on 20/05/2022 - 18:30

        Remember this https://amp.abc.net.au/article/12001260

        • rektrading on 20/05/2022 - 18:35

          Art imitating life.

      • iCandy on 21/05/2022 - 08:10
        +3

        Is that the movie where you can’t understand anything Brad Pitt says?

        • rektrading on 21/05/2022 - 08:17
          -1

          Who's brand Pitt?

          • yadq on 22/05/2022 - 05:44
            +1

            @rektrading: Pretty sure @iCandy meant Leonardo, the Cabrio

        • cookie2 on 22/05/2022 - 07:48
          +2

          You mean 12 monkeys?

  • GordonD on 20/05/2022 - 16:17
    +22

    Its not the next AIDS or the the next COVID.

    Its hard to catch. It can't be transmitted by air, only by close contact. We don't need community-wide lockdowns to prevent that.

    And its easy to cure.

    • TongJoe on 20/05/2022 - 16:21
      -2

      Wild, so which animal is spreading it in the UK then? Or are we all assuming that it's just people doing it?

      Where is the proof?

      • GG57 on 20/05/2022 - 16:27
        +9

        Humans are animals too.

      • GordonD on 20/05/2022 - 16:28
        +7

        Its called monkeypox, but it was merely identified first in monkeys. Its believed it was probably spread into humans by small rodents. But the species spreading it into the UK are returned tourists from parts of Africa where its common. Its typical that its another problem that only gets in the news if it happens in a rich Western country like ours.

    • avoidfullprice on 20/05/2022 - 19:43
      +7

      It can't be transmitted by air

      Not true. It is just not that transmissible.

      https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/australias-first-monkeyp…

      The illness can be transmitted from person to person through air droplets, close bodily contact or sharing contaminated linens or objects.

      That said, the concern is still low today. NO NEED TO STOCK UP TOILET PAPER PEOPLE!

    • cookie2 on 22/05/2022 - 07:49
      +3

      I'd say we don't need community wide lockdowns ever.

    • sn00ze on 23/05/2022 - 10:58
      -5

      spot on, and also, if you havent damaged your immune system with a covid vax its a total non issue.

    • SlavOz on 25/05/2022 - 09:13
      +1

      And its easy to cure.

      So was COVID. 99% of cases went away on their own. There were also very positive signs of improvement in people who followed certain medication plans. Doctors tried to push these plans as a first-response for covid but instead the "experts" decided it was better to just tell people to get vaccinated, go home, and hope for the best.

  • AustriaBargain on 20/05/2022 - 16:18
    +33

    I only have sex with straight and bicurious men, so I'll be fine.

    • digressfool on 20/05/2022 - 16:30
      +1

      I'm curious at this point what your previous avatar was

      • whatwasherproblem on 20/05/2022 - 16:37
        +10

        Probably an avatar of an anime girl or something. All of the worst Internet degenerates unanimously have anime girl profile pictures. Bonus points if their name is also some overused shibboleth that only the other like-minded degenerates would get.

      • AustriaBargain on 20/05/2022 - 16:45
        +2

        A bunny pretending to smoke a bowl.

    • goingDHfast on 22/05/2022 - 20:32
      +3

      I'm not gay but I've slept with men who are. Think I'll be fine.

  • Drakesy on 20/05/2022 - 16:27
    +4

    Unless you're conducting "exercises" that involves contact with blood then you should be fine, similar to aids etc

    Although if you do that's your own prerogative.
    You do you

    And for the record every 5-7 years we have a health outbreak or pandemic of some kind so we haven't got a long time to go until the next one really.

    • GordonD on 20/05/2022 - 16:29
      +5

      Not true. Its not spread by blood. Or semen. Or by air. Or on surfaces. You get it by skin to skin contact.

      If you are heterosexual and your partner's got it, you are just as likely to get it from them as you would if your partner was same sex. But diseases like that do tend to disproportionately spread in the male homosexual community because members of that group tend to have more partners.

      • Drakesy on 20/05/2022 - 16:45
        +2

        *sorry "Bodily fluids"

      • morse on 20/05/2022 - 18:25
        +1

        Yeah I think open wounds are an issue too. Which is potentially an issue as this virus affects young children more severely and young children are pretty notorious for being grotty, sharing bodily fluid and having wounds (cuts and grazes etc) think daycare. My kid has already had school sores 🤢.

    • McFly on 22/05/2022 - 10:02
      +6

      You do you

      That's certainly the safest way.

  • Lord Fart Bucket on 20/05/2022 - 16:47
    +8

    It it like netflix, taco bell and all other things that come to australia eventually?

    • whatwasherproblem on 20/05/2022 - 16:57
      +6

      We should run 'em out of here like we did with Starbucks.

      • brendanm on 20/05/2022 - 17:48
        +2

        They've just built a new Starbucks near my place, I have no idea why.

    • yadq on 22/05/2022 - 05:47
      +1

      Does it mean Russia will be safe from it?

  • morse on 20/05/2022 - 17:55

    This isn’t a new virus https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/monkeypox

    It does have a pretty high case fatality ratio. Quarantine and restrictions for travel have always been a thing. If there are really high number of this in a particular area I would imagine they’d restrict travel from that area if warranted. Also not new. I was once quizzed about why I looked so sick by US customs pre pandemic - in reality I only found out I was flying the day I left and had been super busy at work. But countries have always worried about letting sick people in.

    • iCandy on 21/05/2022 - 08:14

      No, there are 2 strains of the Monkeypox. One strain has a mortality rate of 10% and the other has a mortality rate of 1%. But the experts say it is very hard to catch, hence why it seems to pass between people mainly from sex or very close contact.

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