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[SUBS] Lightyear - Added to Disney+

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Might save someone some dollarydoos from not seeing it at the theatre 🙂 imo should've always been a Disney+ movie

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            • @try2bhelpful: Who says I wouldn't? I was pointing out the obnoxious virtue signalling.

              • -1

                @Bdawg: Well you were pointing out obnoxious. I'm not sure about "virtue signalling"; this seems to be a made up nonsense rightwing term.

      • +7

        If that conversation is difficult for you, you really should not have become a parent. Fancy that, being a parent requires teaching kids the nuances of life. Who would have thought.

        • +5

          "That's the school's responsibility!"

          -lazy, angry parents.

    • +6

      If you're talking about "the kiss" itself, pretty much blink and you'll miss it. Honestly, it's a peck on the lips and it's in the background of a shot. After the movie I was confused as to what people were complaining about because I literally didn't see it.

    • +2

      Bloody snowflake.

  • +12

    Disney failure

    • -2

      Yeah big fail making hundreds of millions of dollars.

      • +4

        Hundreds of millions you say?

        Budget: $200 million
        Box office: $213.9 million

        Barely making $14 mill in a month and a half is classed as a box office failure

        • +4

          Lucky this is a kids movie that is driven by merchandise and long term availability. Not just a month at the cinema.

          • +2

            @Gehirn: No. Producers only get money from the first week of the USA box office and nothing else.

            Money from international tickets, dvds, blurays, PPV streaming contracts, toys, books, clothes, stationary and all the other crap they make for the next 50 years just goes straight into the bin.

        • +6

          It has to make double its budget to break even as the budget doesn't account for Advertising which is $$$ and the theatres take 50%.

    • It is a failure in the sense that if the movie was better, it would have got a better box office and would sell more merchandise. Kids won't want a figurine of a character they think is shit, or don't think of at all.

  • +3

    Never download a movie before checking IMDb reviews first

    -Confucius

  • +2

    Bit of a rubbish movie

  • +1

    Great Movie! Look forward to seeing it again with my kids.

  • why did they change buzz to look less like a toy?

    • +2

      the action figure of Buzz in Toy Story is supposed to be based off this guy.

    • +3

      Because this isn't Toy Story, it's a movie that inspired the toy

  • +1

    Not a good film, my kids (6 and 8 - ages not their names) lost interest very quickly.

    At least it got them playing with the actual Buzz and Woody toys again though which they haven't looked at for ages! They will never top Toy Story 1-3

  • +6

    As a long-time Toy Story fan, I find it hard to get used to the idea of a Buzz that isn't Tim Allen.

  • Lgtb propaganda

    • Its .2 seconds long buddy

      • +9

        Buzz Lightyear has a black female boss who is in a same sex marriage. All the intersectional boxes ticked.

        This movie is heavy on the social engineering, this from Disney the home of Snow White.

        The Groomer label doesn’t sound so unfair to me.

        • +7

          The only thing this movie is grooming is people to be space soldiers.

        • +3

          If you don't make a big deal of it, it isn't. The only ones making a big deal of it is the fragile snowflakes.

          • +1

            @FabMan: Thanks for the irony lols. Good stuff!

      • +7

        These movies are a good way to spot people who are really, really easily influenced to hate things they haven't seen because someone said they should.

        • +4

          It’s a better movie to watch the public being slowly brainwashed by activists at Disney into accepting that activities which are at the fringe are absolutely common and mainstream.

          Company policy is to incorporate this technique across the whole platform.

          • -1

            @Grok: Nah, mate. That is what the GOP are for. You want to talk about fringe elements trying to say they are mainstream. Only they are, much, more dangerous.

          • +1

            @Grok: How about not abusing people who aren't hurting anyone and let them be treated with the courtesy and rights you'd expect to receive? 'Grooming' courtesy and acceptance to people doesn't sound like the worst kind of 'brainwashing', while throwing out buzzwords to rile people up over next to nothing seems worse to me.

            • +1

              @FabMan: May I introduce you to the history of religion. At least they’ve stopped burning heretics at the stake. Religions reserve the right to interfere in other peoples lives and corrupt authorities to do their bidding. Funnily enough it is, usually, the same people who say they want “small government” and “freedom” and whine about “cancel culture”. Extraordinary isn’t it?

              • +1

                @try2bhelpful: Yep, I've seen them. The type of people who complain their children have been brainwashed when they don't follow in their hate filled mindset.

            • +2

              @FabMan: The “Groomers” tag was used in response to the inaccurate description of a bill outlawing the teaching of transgender ideology to children up to THIRD GRADE as “Don’t say gay”. Can’t we even leave tiny children alone up to third grade without indoctrinating them?

              “Groomers” is far more accurate than “Don’t say gay”.

              The most vile insults are coming from progressives, not religious or conservative groups.

              You have been brainwashed.

              • @Grok: "You have been brainwashed."

                Into what? Being tolerant of people not hating on others and who want to live their life in peace or being intolerant to those filled with hate and dictating what people should be doing in their own homes?

                Why should it bother me what two (or more) consenting adults are doing non-harmful things with each other? Why shouldn't normal actions that couples do in public be normalised in the media? I kiss my wife goodbye when I'm going away for many hours, I don't see what is wrong with it, or why that can't be displayed in a kids movie either. I took time to think this through when I was young, I wasn't watching TV shows or movies, I just thought it out so I don't see how that is being brainwashed.

                We as responsible adults are supposed to guide children into being decent human beings as best we can, teaching not to be abusive doesn't seem bad. What kind of person are you when throw around buzzwords like "indoctrinating", "Groomers", and "brainwashed"? It says a lot about you, that you can't use logic to defend your beliefs, so you attack others with insults because you are weak of character.

                • +3

                  @FabMan: Consenting adults can do whatever they like alone or with others

                  Children in kindergarten and up the third grade (at least) should be left out of the transgender ideological wars. It was the people defending the innocence of children who were viciously attacked in the media and quite frankly by people like you.

                  The fact that you can’t even see this says more about you than me.

                  • @Grok: "It was the people defending the innocence of children who were viciously attacked in the media and quite frankly by people like you."

                    That isn't true and you've have changed the arguement as well because you are afraid to confront your bigotry. Why did you change what took place in the movie, regarding a gay couple's quick kiss with a black person involved, to kids needing protecting from viscous people regarding transgender issues. You changed the subject because you know you are wrong about your views on the movie, you don't want to admit that to yourself or to me, so you change the debate to deflect. Again, you lack character.

                    • +2

                      @FabMan: You made the discussion about the movie kiss, I didn’t. Read all my comments. Actually, I haven’t seen the movie, I just know what’s in it.

                      I was making a general comment about movies now indoctrinating the public. You broadened the debate. The only bigot here is you, lookup what the word bigot means.

                      • @Grok: "Buzz Lightyear has a black female boss who is in a same sex marriage. All the intersectional boxes ticked."

                        Maybe not about the kiss, but about the relationship. So you splitting hairs and making massive conversation changes again reflects on you and my point is valid about you changing the subject.

                        How am I suppose to know what you are talking about to other people? I reckon you are a low character bigot based on your discussions here.

                        • +2

                          @FabMan: You broadened the debate.

                          Disney is copping lots of flack for their heavy handed woke agenda. You don’t seem to be aware of the issue so came in here guns blazing about something else.

                          Personally, I think children’s movies and especially Disney movies which parents trust, should NOT have sexual messaging or left wing ideology in them. Yet this is exactly what Disney has promised to do.

                          What two adults do consentingly to each other is their own affair.

                          You are lamely virtue signalling and looking for conflict where there isn’t.

                          • +1

                            @Grok:

                            What two adults do consentingly to each other is their own affair.

                            Disney movies show relationships, have done since the early days. Why must the relationships they show purely be straight?

                      • @Grok: Indoctrinating the public to do what? Accept that people are able to do things that are legal? Honestly? I’m 60 years old and have seen a lot of changes in my lifetime. If you are Asian you would be horrified as to what was “accepted” when I was a kid. My grandmother used to warn me about walking around China town to avoid the “white slave traders”. I thought my grandma was full of it then, and I think the same now. “Indoctrination”, then, we be accepting we would be invaded by the “yellow hordes”. The “woke” idea would be that Asian people should be allowed to come into Australia and be treated as equals.

              • @Grok: What, absolute, rubbish. Have you read the religious tomes? Have you looked at the “cancel culture” coming from the religious right. You want to see brain washing look at Sunday School. Look at RI taught in schools. Look at the fact they have Chaplains rather than counsellors. Religion is trying to saturate society. FFS don’t be different to their rigid ideas.

                • @try2bhelpful: What nonsense at every point.

                  My point was not even about religion. By the way religious freedom is in the constitution, they have a every right to believe what they want. You don’t have the right to change that.

                  Parents intentionally send their children to religious school at some expense. They want the teachings taught. They DON’T want subliminal messaging in movies.

                  No-one is forcing religion on anyone. It is people like you who can’t tolerate religion, you’re the bigot.

                  By the way, I’m not religious, but I respect the right of people who are religious to live their life as they wish without being attacked by bigots.

                  • @Grok: Actually this is what is in our constitution
                    "The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth."

                    "Decisions of the High Court make clear that the section does not amount to a constitutional guarantee of the right to freedom of religion and belief."

                    https://www.ag.gov.au/rights-and-protections/human-rights-an….

                    Religion is not being forced on anyone? Honestly? Have you had a look at what is happening in the USA, and other places overseas. In fact religions are exempt from some of the discrimination laws in Australia. They have, certainly, held back things like SSM.

                    Frankly I don't care what people think, as long as they don't affect other people's rights. I do object to my tax payer dollars being used to indoctrinate children to discriminate against consenting adults living their own lives. I would be, equally, appalled if this was used to push racism. There are people here trying to remove a gay kiss in an animated movie. I don't see how they are respecting other people's rights here. It appears to be "cancel culture" writ large.

                    What is the subliminal message here? All it is saying is consenting adult gay people exist and should be treated as equals and with consideration. I don't think that is subliminal, it is no different to saying that people who aren't white exist and should be treated with respect.

                    I have no idea how you get "I am bigoted" because I'm asking for gay people to be treated the same as the rest of the population. What I am saying is people can't use their religious beliefs to discriminate against others and to try to "cancel" them out of society. Believe what you like as long as you don't discriminate against others. I'm not forcing you guys to be gay or trans; I'm saying people shouldn't be discriminated against if they are.

                    • @try2bhelpful: I have stopped watching most Hollywood movies and TV shows. They now constantly bait and switch and gender and race swap established characters. The men are always dumb and hopeless. The women are always superior. And somehow an illegal immigrant is always in the story and increasingly a trans character.

                      Fine, their money, their movie. I just won’t pay for it.

                      But when they try to indoctrinate and brainwash little children with woke nonsense I draw the line. That “woke nonsense” by the way was heavily mocked by none other than Hollywood itself ten or more years ago. Almost every movie made 20 years ago could not be made now. The SJWs and LGBTQ++++ people would be extremely offended.

                      How long until they try to ban all old movies like they do statues?

                      Pretty soon even you will have old fashioned views, some snotty nosed brainwashed kid will come after you like you are doing to me, it never stops.

                      Anyway, cool discussion, we were relatively civil 🤣

                      • @Grok: Fortunately we are now seeing films where people aren’t being “cancelled” because they don’t fit the straight jacket of what certain members of the audience want.

                        What is far more worrying is that children are indoctrinated with violence, and intolerance, than they are shown that consenting adults can have loving relationships.

                        Society is evolving. We no longer imprison consenting adults on expressing their sexuality. However, as we are seeing in some states in America, we have a fair way to go.

                        My suggestion is your broaden your reading, as well as your views. Society is passing you by.

    • +3

      The more I read these comments, the more it's clear to me that people who comment like this have never seen the movie and only parrot what they've heard online.

      So, Marcx33, what did you really think about the kiss between Buzz Lightyear and his colleague? It was a major plot point and really changed the way the movie turned out, right?

    • Fragile.

    • Imagine going into a movie and having 0.016% of that runtime ruin it for you.
      Life must be great!

      • Imagine being upset about something like that.

  • +2

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  • -8

    Thought this place was OzBargain not hey let's post every time something is added to our subscription services

    • +7

      Users who wish to Block "Additions to Streaming Services" can do so by clicking on the Streaming Service Addition tag, then clicking the 3 dot menu, then clicking hide on new deals and/or front page. More info here.

      The post actually gives you instructions to never have to deal with this problem again rather than pointlessly complaining about it on individual deals given the mods have already ruled on it.

  • +9

    Get woke, go broke

    • +2

      You think Disney are going broke?

      Also, if this had been a husband/wife having a brief kiss, you'd have said nothing.. but because it was two women that means your idea of 'woke' includes same sex relationships - so you're identifying yourself as homophobic, correct?

      • +1

        When did I say that? Now you're just putting words in my mouth.

        Oh and to answer your question, yes, Disney are going broke

        • You kind of implied it actually… No need to day it directly.

          • +1

            @Dvbargain: What was implied?

            Disney going broke? I feel like a missed a chunk of conversation here. You understand that for most people this is about a big Corp or sports teams for example, trying to shove viewpoints down others throats. But as per usual, the professional victims come out in force with their label makers just waiting to be outraged with their holier-than-thou attitude.

            • @[Deactivated]: Yeah, Disney is going broke; try again. They will be raking in millions, probably billions, long after both of us are dead.

              Disney makes films and they are showing a cross section of the community which increases the chances of increasing viewership, and attendance, across a wider audience. It makes economic sense. Why, on earth, would you care of gay people are shown in films? That isn’t “shoving viewpoints”. What is “shoving viewpoints” are those people who would deny certain members of the community from being represented.

              • @try2bhelpful: Just because you don't care about homosexuality and transgenderism being normalised to children, doesn't mean that other people don't. People have a right to be concerned about the types of influences that their children are indoctrinated into, and they have a right to voice those concerns and to boycott the companies and products actively pushing the agenda, so don't be disappointed or even surprised if you start encountering push-back from large segments of society

                • @inasero: Yeah, the “large section of the community” that voted for same sex marriage. You might want to have a look at the history of Australia and the “White Australia Policy” to stop us being overrun by the “yellow hordes”. Are you proposing that we return to that policy because it was, very, popular with an actual “large majority of the population” at the time? Me,I think that era was shameful: funnily enough it coincided with jailing gay people.

                  Frankly I am much more concerned that children are being indoctrinated into hate rather than accepting people are different. That my tax payer dollars are being used by institutions whose belief systems are so fragile they have to cancel out anyone who is different. That people have such a poor relationship with their children that they can’t sit down and say “people are different and, as you grow up, you will work out where you fit in the world. I will support you in your decisions and help you with your choices”. Explain to them the concept of “consenting adults” and they have a few more years to sort this out. You children will learn about gay people, you can frame the conversation or leave it to the shelter sheds; it is up to you. Frankly, I’m more concerned about the influences that fundamentalist religious people have on children.

                  I think the obsession you guys have with what consenting adults do is bizarre. You don’t have to be gay, you don’t have to wear women’s clothing, but people who do want to should be free to. The majority of society has moved on.

                • +1

                  @inasero: You won't be making people gay by watching a gay couple have a healthy relationship, or did you choose to be straight after you tried being gay for a bit? So the only indoctrination is to tolerance of those who are consenting adults, having a healthy relationship and that doesn't sound bad. Seems like you don't want your indoctrination of hatred to be interfered with.

        • +5

          I wish I was as broke as Disney is.

  • +1

    Was looking forward to this but after reading comments on here and subsequently reading reviews.. Onto the next one! But thanks OP!

  • Watch "The Sea Beast" instead of Netflix.

  • +11

    Man I never check out these movie release posts, but the number of fragile snowflakes basically needing a fainting couch because this movie didn't conform to the outdated ancient propaganda trend of pretending gay people are just awful and should never be seen is somewhere between sad and hilarious.

    Imagine being so weak that a kid's movie showing a couple being a couple for a split second upsets you this much. You people seriously need a real hobby which isn't whining, and not even whining about a real problem, but about some of the world not being cruel to a group you were taught to be cruel towards and never grew out of your indoctrination due to personal shortcomings.

    Reading these comments was embarrassing for other humans who don't suck.

    • +7

      How sad that people like you are so quick to attack and abuse those who disagree with your opinions and yet you call us 'intolerant'.

      You been so indoctrinated by media and so called professors that you believe everything and anything they tell you?

      • +7

        It's not remotely sad that you face receiving what you dish out to others but seemingly need a fainting couch if it comes back at you, at which point the whiny crocodile tears flow like niagara falls after heavy rain.

        The only reason to even speak about 'tolerance' is when people have a xenophobic reaction to others for no reason other than being different, and need to suppress their irrational problem-causing personal issues. It doesn't mean antisocial behaviour like yours should be tolerated. It's obvious from a mile away though that you'd go to lengths to not understand this extremely simple concept, and do anything to avoid growing up and not being a pointless pain in the ass for people who've done nothing to you, and then whine about what a victim you are if any consequences of your actions come back at you.

      • +3

        Hey snowflake, toughen up a bit.

      • +2

        Haha wow.. I'm genuinely unsure if you're a troll or not. As CodeExplode said, It's just embarrassing now.

        • +1

          You do wonder what sites they read.

  • +2

    Fancy a subscription service adding something new. Wonders will never cease.

  • +2

    I watched this in the cinema. It deserves a 6/10, and that's being generous.

    The only good part is Sox the cat. All his scenes are great.

    I don't care about the lesbian relationship. It's a tiny part of the movie. The problem is the movie itself is dull, the side characters are stupid and annoying, all the jokes fall flat, and the villain is extremely underwhelming.

    • Thanks for the review. The points you bring up are the issues. Sounds like the streaming service is the way to go.

    • I really enjoyed this film, I think Sox charmed me enough to look over the short comings (new recruit characters, villain and predictable character arc).

      I felt the first half was a bit stronger than the last. Would have been happier to have more Buzz and Sox scenes as they explored the universe/planet, Mandalorian style.

  • +5

    It’s funny. On one hand I’m sitting back and watching people get into the debate of how much of something is appropriate and what is acceptable for a kids movie. Obviously this view changes when you have a kid.
    As a dad with a 5year old, I am definitely right, conservative, but also like to think I’m accepting of all things different. This is a requirement for a healthy society at least in my core beliefs. In terms of how and when and how much is the grey area and I’m sure it is for many. Do I want my 5 yo asking me if it’s ok to kiss boys. No, I don’t. Sorry if that’s too much for some people. It’s just my view. Would I prefer him to ask me when he is 12/13 and where he will know a lot more about himself also… definitely.
    Herero stuff is represented as the norm because it is. Differences need to be accepted but lines also need to be drawn. You have stupid examples from both sides which are exaggerated and can be used to illustrate a point, like all the over the top flamboyant gay people, which most are not like that, or all these ridiculous people who love bridges and what not.
    Crazy time to be making rules for a population that’s for sure.

    • +6

      Do you want him to ask you if is alright to deal with a situations by resorting to violence? How many violent scenes has your five year old seen in his life? So you think that one gay kiss is too troubling but watching people being shot isn’t?

      Frankly, the lines that should be drawn are around anger, and violence, not around tolerance and love.

      • I totally agree… we should all be showing the kids porn… show them all how to love each other…

        • Interesting that you have failed to address the issue I raised, which is about violence in these shows. You guys seem to be OK with people getting shot or thrown around.

          So you are equating one kiss with porn? You must go to the most boring porn sites there are. At your sites does the guy just repair the washing machine and then leave?

          • @try2bhelpful: No problem here with violence.. violence is the solution to all problems.

            You're the one who wants more love for the kiddies…

            • +2

              @hippyhippy: No, I want children to see that consenting adults are allowed to be attracted to each other. That children should learn tolerance.

              Frankly, I do want more love for the kiddies; because I don’t equate love with abuse. Abuse normally comes from hate. Anyone who thinks a paedophile loves children is sick.

            • +2

              @hippyhippy: Why are you being weird?

    • +1

      So, thoughts behind Mrs Doubtfire, when Robin Williams dressed as a woman and used womanly traits?

      • +2

        One of the many classic movies that ridicule the absurdity of a biological man presenting as a woman. Sounds pretty conservative to me.

    • +1

      I'm trying to follow the chain of logic here but just can't get it. Would you not want your kid to see a movie about a genius or a tall person because it's not the norm? Your overriding goal is conformity and you think whether they're straight or gay will be influenced by a movie? How did all the gay people come to be when movies only showed straight people?

      • +1

        Yeah the logic, is that it’s probably not for me or you to decide what’s going on. Certainly above my pay grade. Just because I went to uni and have read unrelated literature certainly doesn’t qualify me on social issues other than my own personal experience. I just know what I want. Which is my logic and appreciate not anyone else’s. Being tall or smart, to me at least, are gifts in my eyes and I’m sure to many others. You can see other angles on this which is good for you.
        I don’t think my kid will be a murderer but I still don’t show him murder type movies either. It’s a lot to process for a little person whilst they are developing. The beauty is in your household you can run your show how you want. So soon as you have a kid,3,4,5 yo you can let it rip about all the sexuality you want. No problems from me.

        • +1

          Would you not want your kid to see something about a movie where there's a character with dwarfism? Because you consider it both abnormal and not a 'gift'? But a movie which includes the fastest racer is okay because it's abnormal but also a 'gift'?

          What about a movie about somebody like Alan Turing, who was both a genius (who played a major part in winning world war 2), but also gay? (which you must be implying is a bad thing if not a gift?). The society that he helped save couldn't get over its indoctrinated hang-ups and castrated him and then he committed suicide. You'd sure hope people would have learned to think a bit more about their logic on this since then, especially while typing their responses on Turing Machines and while free of Nazi rule, thanks to a gay man.

          • +1

            @CodeExplode: There are so many great stories of gay people doing great things on a massive scale as in the example you provided, and also on a micro every day level. Further, and TBH I really like your point of view, and it makes it seem black and white when you get really granular, but to me, now, I try and be a bit more general as the topic I’m trying to teach my kid is to be done with more care and slow strokes of the knowledge. They will be equipped to form a view, no doubt impeded by your parents as we all are, but with reason and hopefully a good outcome.
            Dhwafism, fast racers all valid points, but I will take a different approach to those as well. There’s so many things to consider but as long you feel confident and compassionate I think you can handle situations well.
            You brought up an example which made me think, what if it’s a person with a disability? The difference for me there, would be it’s not a sex Ed situation and lot more straight forward to discuss to a young kid. Anyway good discussion and thanks for you view and insight. I never really thought about it so much.

          • @CodeExplode: having biological grandchildren is a gift

    • +3

      I mean this is just crazy to me. There’s nothing explicit in the movie. Surely your kid will at some point see gay people express affection in public? Do you plan to cover their eyes so they don’t?

      It’s 2022, gay people exist, I don’t really understand what there is to shelter your kids from. Gay people kissing isn’t political; that’s just how some people in the world are. It’s not like there are kids who saw one two many gay kisses in movies and then that ‘turned’ them gay; that’s not how it works

      • +2

        I've known several people who were homosexual from their early teens through their late 20s, who used to say things like "that's not how it works", or "I didn't choose to be this way", who later joined some church, completely abandoned their previous lifestyle, went on to marry someone of the opposite sex (they were homosexual previously, not bi-sexual), have children, and are still together in their 40s… who today admit (just as or more openly as before) that actually, they DID choose to be that way, that they were lying to themselves, to each other, and to outsiders because they'd be ostracized if they didn't repeat such mantras.

        So when several people, who used to say "I was born that way", later tell me "actually I was fooling myself and lying to everyone else" plus I can see the complete reversal in their lifestyle as evidence to back up their claim… I know which one to believe.

        • +1

          who later joined some church
          You lost me at this statement. Seen friends go down that rabbit hole for different reasons. The cult like behavior and shaming some churches employ to force their agenda is so much worse than someone going about their day loving who they want. I still do not understand how people can be so concerned about who another person chooses to be with. Does it really have that much affect on your own life?

          • +1

            @Mr Random:

            You lost me at this statement.

            Of course we did.

            The cult like behavior

            Of course the cult-like behavioUr of people pushing trans, pronouns, etc on other people's children, is perfectly ok with you though, right?

            Pffttt.

            • @[Deactivated]: Funnily enough women kept getting rubbished about “Ms” when they didn’t want people to know if they were married. Why, on earth would you care what pronoun people want to use for themselves let alone what children think? Why are you people so obsessed?

            • @[Deactivated]:

              Of course the cult-like behavioUr of people pushing trans, pronouns, etc on other people's children, is perfectly ok with you though, right?

              Nope, not alright to push an opinion onto others regardless of what it is.

              Here is what the movie has done. It has shown two people of the same sex in a relationship, that kissed. Nothing forceful about it. Two characters going about their own life without affecting anyone around them. No cult-like behaviour, no pushing agendas, just a couple of fictional characters being themselves. It was you who fabricated this misconception of agendas being pushed onto kids. Not once did I see this story tell the viewer they had to go kiss someone of the same sex.

              Maybe we watched two different versions.

              • +1

                @Mr Random:

                Nothing forceful about it.

                Yes, of course. It always starts as "only this minor thing", so they then get to scream "bigot/racist/nazi/far-right/white supremacist/etc" at anyone who doesn't bow down - to shut down conversation, to criminalise logical thought and moral values/standards. Then they immediately turn around, chuckle to themselves, as they push the envelope another step, and another, and another… until we now have the same people wanting to legalise "child love" (which they are).

                Well they're not deceiving anyone anymore. They pushed the pendulum too far and now that it's swinging back the other way they can't cope with it.

                The fact is children emulate what they see, and many parents consider it abnormal/disgusting/whatever, and therefore don't want their kids exposed to it. Meanwhile, those doing the exposing it are NOT their parents, don't have those kids' best interests at heart, only their own selfish agendas - and due to recent leaks we know they (in this case Disney staff at best, Disney itself at worst) definitely has agendas in mind.

                You can say it's not telling kids to stick their tongue down someone's throat all you like. But their actions, leaked comments, and open arrogance prove that's false. It's only one piece in a huge puzzle so tomorrow (actually, yesterday) someone born a guy with a two-day growth is dragging people through court for not calling him "ma'am." Even the people pushing these agendas arrogantly and openly state themselves it's not about "just a kiss", "just want acceptance", or whatever. The recent video a bunch of them released, singing about going to groom other peoples' children, comes to mind. The "pride" events where they're wearing big swinging penises peeing on kids in the crowd is another.

                So they can keep pushing their agendas, but parents can keep telling them what they think of their agendas by boycotting them - and they have, loud and clear. That's why Top Gun is the highest grossing film, while the screening of ones like this have crickets.

                • @[Deactivated]: Well, I’m sure we can agree on one thing at the very least. There are extremists on both sides. Neither are good for society.

    • "Crazy time to be making rules for a population that’s for sure."

      When is a good time? It seems like whenever change comes, it is never easy and it causes a disturbance. Those pushing for it hope for something better, those resisting it don't want things to be worse.

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