New Fone Fatigue Syndrome with New Phone Announcements

I used to update my phone every year with Samsung. Then I got over the yearly phone cycle. I got the Mate 20 Pro and stuck with it for years. Mobile phones got to a point where the screen was good, the phone was fast, the battery was good, the photos were great. I didn't feel the need to upgrade. Then I thought it was about time to upgrade so I purchased the Galaxy S22 Ultra which I received around March 2022. The dust has barely settled on my new phone and the Samsung Unpacked event is on 10 August 2022.

I think it's an open secret that phones are so good now that in reality they can be used for 5 years or more but then companies can't make money so they think up new reasons to push consumers to upgrade. Common tactics appear to be:

  1. Apple got rid of user replaceable batteries and the industry followed. The batteries wear out.
  2. Apple got caught deliberately slowing down older phones. Gave some plausible deniability reason that it was to help consumers. Got fined for it.
  3. There's an ongoing war with right to repair.
  4. Each year some new gimmick is introduced. Nightography. Video quality. Slow motion. More lenses. Different notch/hole.
  5. Mid yearly cycle Apple releases a hero colour phone to drive sales.
  6. Square shape, round shape, square shape.

I can look at the configuration of the lenses of an iPhone user and I can tell immediately if they're poor (1 or 2 lenses) or rich (3 lenses), or if they're poor (iPhone 12 lens configuration), or if they're rich (iPhone 13 lens configuration).

Companies have been pushing yearly phone releases. Good phones are crazy expensive now. I paid big bucks for a you beaut new phone and I'm feeling like it's about to be obsolete when it's only months old. I hereby dub it New Fone Fatigue Syndrome or NFFS for short. I feel like I'm living in la la land and suffering from NFFS with the pressure to upgrade.

How would you approach NFFS?

PS: To those who have been reading/enduring my posts I only have 1 or 2 posts left. My short list of potential remaining topics are.

1) This time a devout Buddhist expressed admiration for me for being close to Buddha and I had to disappoint her because I was not Buddhist.
2) I was so innocent at university that I didn't know what that hole in the toilet cubicle was for.
3) I completely misunderstood what an anal swab was.

Thought I'd go out with some humorous topics about what happened to me in my life.

Comments

  • +27

    Yes

    • +2

      I concur do you also concur doctor.

  • +27

    Some great topics coming up. Are 2 & 3 connected?

    • +4

      Yup. Apple currently "supports" right to repair but some users are required to jump through hoops and there's no guarantee that things will work properly.

      • +2

        Apple's self service repair kit is so transparently disingenuous that I can't help but laugh. They send this huge kit and by the time the consumer has jumped through the hoops and paid for everything it costs more money and time than just taking it to the Apple store. See the crazy self service repair kit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW1ZeStpqyw

        Apple can then claim to lawmakers that it's not restricting owners repairing their own phones because it has a self repair option.

        • +3

          Apple can then claim to lawmakers that it's not restricting owners repairing their own phones because it has a self repair option.

          Exactly. Their plan is to undermine the law.

          I'm not a fan of their BS by saying they care about the environment and releasing airpods which have tiny batteries that quickly degrade and go straight to landfill.

          • +4

            @Caped Baldy: Or how they claim that not including the charger was good for the environment when it stunk of reduced shipping costs and more profit. If they were for real they'll offer the charger for free for customers who wanted one.

            • +1

              @Eatslikeacat: Modern Smartphones evolved from around 2008 with the earliest iPhone 3G (or Motorola Dext), and they've had massive increases year-over-year until 2014 with the iPhone 5S (or Samsung Note 4-Exynos).

              That was the turning point, where each year an upgrade also came with a downgrade, and price rises.

              So while 2015 was a boring year, 2016 was still rather revolutionary, and things certainly stagnated there. This includes both the software AND the hardware (processor, display, camera, radio, housing, etc etc).

              Compare an iPhone 5S or the Samsung Note 4-Exynos to today's devices and they'll show their age. Step up to the iPhone 6S Plus, or Samsung S7 Plus, and suddenly they're alot better experience.
              ….you couldn't say the same thing back in 2016 or 2014 by comparing it to a 2011 or earlier device.

            • +1

              @Eatslikeacat: Or that they stopped including the charger saying everyone has chargers. The existing ones were USB-A. When the stopped supplying chargers they changed the supplied cable to USB-C.

            • @Eatslikeacat: Well they have not increased the cost of the phone since iPhone X. Say whatever but the packing size did decrease and by a lot. And I dont even care if there is a charger inside the box, apple or not since i already have a few lying around. I use wireless charging anyway and the battery on my 13 Pro Max is so good that cant really exhaust it in a day even if i tried hard.

            • @Eatslikeacat:

              Or how they claim that not including the charger was good for the environment

              They reduced their carbon footprint by a shytonne with that maneuver but do carry on. You obviously have an axe to grind.

              Power adapters use the largest amounts of certain materials, including plastic, copper, tin and zinc. By removing them from iPhone 12 packaging, we estimate that we avoided mining over 550,000 tonnes of copper, tin and zinc ore. Using smaller, lighter packaging lets us fit up to 70 per cent more iPhone boxes per shipping pallet

              Maybe sit down for a moment and compute that fact RE:more iPhones shipped per pallet.

              Apple is carbon-neutral across their entire Corporate Operations. Their products will be completely carbon-neutral by 2030.

              World-class mobile recycling program.

              Siri is run completely via Clean Energy.

              Antennas in the phones made from Upcycled Water Bottles.

              Name a more eco-conscious blue-chip company, lad. Please.

              FYI I am on my second iPhone, ever. First one I had for maybe 5/6 years. So try and hit me with DaE AppLe SheeEeeEp!!1!

          • -1

            @Caped Baldy: I want to call your BS on the Airpods. In that case stop breathing since you are exhaling CO2 and causing global warming. The amount of plastic used is them is perhaps less than weight on the bottle cap on your milk bottle and they will be used for at least a few years before they ever land up in the land fill. Even then you could easily have them recycled at Apple if you are so worried.

            And call Apple whatever you want to, they support their hardware the longest (6-7 years vs 4 years which is the current best for Android, everyone else is much worse including the creator itself, google). As for the repair program, none of the other companies have such a repair program which will also allows you to KEEP YOUR WARRANTY. Infact can you tell you how much the battery replacement for a Fold 3 cost on the samsung's website?

            • +1

              @dealsucker: Airpods comprise of more than simply just plastic. How about some research rather than just going off your gut feel? https://www.vice.com/en/article/neaz3d/airpods-are-a-tragedy

              Apple make some pretty good products but they should be called out when they do shitty things (including other companies).

              • @Caped Baldy: Well that article is the same sort of crap but in a million words. Airpods Pro weigh 5.4 grams each, meaning less than 11 grams in total including battery, plastic and everything else. You would have exhaled more than that amount of CO2 in writing your post. Shall i call you dead weight on earth? You want to make an argument about cost or the fact that their battery is not replacebale (the other copycats are all the same) and its totally fine but if your only argument is their so called environment footprint, it borders on you being psychopathic and I wonder how you live in your everyday life.

                • +1

                  @dealsucker: Geez, you really love apple so much that any criticism damages your fragile ego.

                  Look, there's cumulative effects of having hundreds of millions of the things. I find it wasteful in the sense that the batteries are tiny and subsequently don't last that long. This is something apple can improve on.

                  • @Caped Baldy: No I dont love Apple as much as I hate patronising woke nonsense and I am calling that out. Where is your sense of perspective? You cannot make an argument about airpods purely from a environmental point of view unless you stop existing. So what if they sell a lot? If they did not, their competitor would. Would that change anything? No. Would you still be pissed? Perhaps not because you are coming from hatred for a particular company rather than any objective rational judgement. Your hate is fine too, i dont care two hoot but dont take pseudo moral stance on environment to peddle nonsense about non issues to make yourself feel better.

      • Caped, 2&3 being connected more interested in the future topics listed at the bottom, vs the apple section :D

    • +1

      Nooooooooo! The mental images……

  • +19

    Maybe focus on other things like buying a watch then you won't get stressed out over phones.

    • ph is the most useless thing in the english language. I reject it outright and woul stop using it entirely except for the fact I keep forgetting.

      • +6

        along with the occasional 'd' apparently

        • HA good catch.

      • 'Ph' is the most useless thing in the English language?

        How about the K in knife?

        English is a forever changing language. Just pick up a 300 year old book and look at words like "wouldest"

        • Adding that one to the list of things I reject but won't actually practically change because it is too ingrained.

  • +16

    I was so innocent at university that I didn't know what that hole in the toilet cubicle was for.

    Glorious!

  • +1

    I feel like I'm living in la la land

  • +1

    I feel that Moore's law (overall throughput rather than specs) is starting to slow down hence the gap of upgrades are becoming wider and longer IMO

    • +25

      That would be Moops Law

      • Can you expand on that as I have no idea what is Moops Law? Cheers

        • +6

          i thought it was malibu stacy law…

          she has a new HAT

          BUY BUY BUY

          • @djones145: Regardless of the OP's post, and very plausible, we're all still going to upgrade to the next and best :P

        • +1

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bubble_Boy_(Seinfeld)

        • Costsnza's law

      • +2

        Moors. It is clearly a typo.

      • Nice dude.

  • +15

    I tend to buy bottom to mid range phones because of this. Still using my redmi note 9 pro without a problem. No need to prove status with my phone choices.

    • Orrrrr… we don't actually give a shit about status and we get these shiny phones coz we're so addicted to our devices and on them so much that I personally could not stand any lag or performance delay at all. Give me the latest and greatest thing there is, so as it's faster to inject that dopamine directly into my brain. More more MORE!

  • +4

    New Fone Fatigue Sydrome
    How would you approach NFSS?

    What is NFSS ?

    I'd start by calling it NPFS

    • +1

      He he he, I wish I could claim that NFSS was deliberate and had a hidden meaning but it was a mistake because I was in a rush at work. I've updated it to NFFS.

    • +2

      What is NFSS?
      New Fone Fatigue Sydrome

      a way of saying No FFS.

      e.g. Want to buy a the new model phone? NFFS

  • +19

    If you stop following all the announcements and stop reading up on all the latest and greatest phones, I think it's easy to just forget it all and occupy your mind with something more worthwhile. Generation to generation upgrades are less noticeable like your say so you're really not missing out on a whole lot.

    Im a bit the same as you, I do an upgrade every year or year and a half only because it really works out financially better for me after claiming 28 degrees price protection, tax deductions then resale (not to mention on selling any bonuses received on pre-orders) and sometimes SB/CR. But otherwise, it is tiring having to switch phones, buy cases/screen protectors etc. In all fairness you're absolutely right that phones can last and I think it's worthwhile pushing your upgrades out to 2 years rather than yearly which is what I'll be doing this time. (2 years is little more reasonable than holding onto a phone for 5 years when you're used to yearly upgrades)

    BTW … im not a fan of the name. This is such a first world problem .

  • +17

    Couldn't give two shits about new phones.
    I'm still using a first gen iPhone SE from 2016.
    Does all the things i want a phone to do, plus its small for easy one hand use and easy pocketability(?), plus it still has a headphone jack.
    Never understood why people get on these frequent tech upgrade loops.

    • +2

      Awesome phone. Changed the battery in mine about 3 times. If it wasn't for the older camera I'd have never changed. That compact size is great.
      If iphones could run multiple whatsapp accounts I'd get a 13 mini and keep it til 2030

    • -4

      sorry friend but you are confirmed poor

      • +1

        thank you for pointing out an obvious issue with society today

        • +2

          This is clearly a joke based on the OP post

          • +2

            @t-money: looks like my game is off today :) I apologize.

  • +3

    with the pressure to upgrade

    Self-imposed stress to "fit it".

    • +1

      Quick, the Jones' are getting too far ahead!

  • +7

    "1) This time a devout Buddhist expressed admiration for me for being close to Buddha and I had disappoint her that I was not Buddhist."

    Had a sort of similar experience myself; picked up a lamp from a middle aged woman through gumtree, i had a good chat with her and then at some point she interrupted to ask if i was a christian as i was such a nice person… and I, being a "devout" atheist for my whole life almost laughed out loud in her face (of course i didn't though) but in her mind a really nice person just "had" to be religious - that's successful brainwashing for you i guess.

    • Plot twist: She was going to try set you up with her kid but you didn't meet the criteria.

  • +15

    There's an easy solution to your predicament, which is to stop caring so much what other people think of you. I don't think most people give a flying f what phone you use (I certainly don't), or whether your car is capable of molesting you, or whether you buy clearance items at the supermarket, and if they do, you need to get new friends

    • +1

      What, there are cars that will "touch it for a bit"?

      Maybe I do need a vehicle after all…

      • Just wait until the exhaust cools down and go for it!

        (Sadly, I have seen photo evidence that people actually do this. Yuck)

  • +7

    Just upgraded mums iphone 6+ from 2014 to an iphone 11 ($647 on special).

    I only replace something on a needs basis, which is most certinally not every year.

    If it's doing the job it's suppose to be doing, why spend money to replace it??

    • +1

      Mean joke coming up purely for laughs:

      It's certainly time to replace your dictionary.

  • +6

    Uhhh ok. If you don't want to upgrade your phone then don't upgrade it… it's pretty easy, no need to spam a wall of text.

  • +2

    See ya, not gonna miss ya

  • It's very easy to fall into the trap to upgrade. I ignored it for years but now that I purchased a new phone I've noticed that the phone companies are very good at enticing people to upgrade. Trade up schemes, fashion statements, new gimmicks, faster graphics or processors, discounts and bundles. I got the S22 Ultra because I talked myself into the stylus which it turns out I have not used in any meaningful way.

    I hate the Apple ecosystem with a passion but I wanted to use their Airtags so I purchased the cheapest, smallest, not so bad iPhone that I could find. The iPhone 12 Mini 64GB. I have literally made 1 test call and 1 real call on it and I only use it for Airtags. However, since I've had it I've been eyeing the iPhone 13 Mini because it has longer battery life, has different lens configuration, and been eyeing 128GB or 256GB. Do I need it? No. Do I want it? Yes. Apple got rid of the microSD slot and the industry followed sheesh. I read about the iPhone 13 Pro Max 128GB entry model. 128GB is not enough so ironically the full capability of video recording is disabled on the 128GB model so have to pay big bucks for 256GB+. I feel like I'm being milked for money one feature at a time. Just a bit more, just a bit more. NFFS.

    I feel like the device being a phone is just an afterthought and isn't even a feature.

    • +4

      Too many words…..
      I think you are saying that you bought an iPhone purely for Airtag use, but then you are 'enticed' by other models with functionalities that you aren't using (i.e. longer battery life, different lens configs, more GB).
      So why would you want it?

      • In my head I understand I know I don't need it. In my heart I want it. Whatever the phone companies are doing they understand the psychology of us sheep and it's working.

    • +4

      Apple got rid of the microSD slot and the industry followed sheesh.

      Well, to get rid of something you need to have it first. iPhone never had a microSD slot.

    • Good lord this is a gem i missed. The dude buys a $1200 phone just to be able to use Air tags (could have bought galaxy tags) even though he "passionately hates" the same ecosystem which enables the said functionality, call people having lower end models poor and then rants about apple not including a charger and environment footprint and other patronising nonsense. Entitled. Entitled obtuse that is.

  • +3

    Good phones are crazy expensive now.

    I've been eyeing the Motorola Razr for years now because it looks awesome and I miss my old reliable (pre-smartphone) flipbrick, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I pay $2000+ for a phone.

  • +3

    3) I completely misunderstood what an anal swab was.

    So what did you think it was?

    • +5

      Ah well that's a long-winded post best left for another day

      • Sadly that day will come. (buys eye bleach in preparation)

  • +4

    Really makes me mad phones not having removable batteries. Used to have an old Note4 and had 2 spare batteries for it. Such a great phone that lasted many years.

  • As a fellow Mate 20 Pro user couldn't agree more high res OLED screen, 1.5 day battery, fantastic triple camera setup and phone is still as fast even with 6gb of ram and it cost me $600 new from dirty HN and then Huawei gave an extra years warranty free of charge, sure I could buy a new S22 but why waste upwards of $1200 for very marginal improvements. It's a shame the new Huawei models don't have google store access

    • +2

      100% agree. I even purchased the flip covers when they were on sale. So I just changed the covers and the phone remained fresh and new feeling. The battery life is still fantastic. Screen still fantastic. I used to play Genshin Impact on it casually and it was smooth (Genshin became a grind and boring really fast). Huawei made such good phones so yes it's really annoying that it got trade embargoed. Huawei stopped copying and started innovating. They're the ones that first made excellent cameras a thing on phones. Huawei were making better and cheaper phones. I reckon a part of the trade embargo was to stifle Huawei instead of competing on innovation.

    • What's your SOT battery drain?

      • I put the Mate 20 Pro away as a backup phone so I don't know what the battery health is. However, what I noticed was that I could play Genshin for hours on battery with the Mate 20 Pro but on the S22 Ultra the battery drains much faster. I can't perceive all the extra graphics power on such a small screen. It plays and looks the same to me. With the Mate 20 Pro I wouldn't worry about battery life. With the S22 Ultra I'm always keeping an eye on the battery percentage to make sure I don't drop too low.

  • +3

    1) This time a devout Buddhist expressed admiration for me for being close to Buddha and I had to disappoint her because I was not Buddhist.

    Neither was the Buhdda.

    2) I was so innocent at university that I didn't know what that hole in the toilet cubicle was for.

    That was you?!

    3) I completely misunderstood what an anal swab was.

    It's pronounced 'anal Schwab' as in "You will bend over and you will be happy".

  • +3

    I have a mate 20 pro and struggle to find anything else that isn't a downgrade in some way. This old phone was so ahead of it's time that it all holds up fantastic. Still quick, great screen and camera, battery holds up. Plus it has in screen fingerprint AND IR face unlock, which seems rare these days. Also an IR blaster.
    And it feels compact compared to most of what's out there at the moment.

    Yet for some silly reason, despite the phone being perfectly good, I've succumbed to looking at new phones anyway and its frustrating. They're all unimpressive.
    Was Huawei just way ahead of their time, or did everything just turn crappy in the last few years?

  • -1

    I really liked the 3D face unlock on the Mate 20 Pro. I just opened the flap and it'd face unlock instantly and show the home screen. The new Samsung phones use 2D face unlock so it's not allowed for secure logins like cards where a fingerprint needs to be used. The iPhone 3D face unlock is so limiting . The ONLY choice at first is face unlock, and then after a long wait if it can't match the face then it'll show the keypad. iOS also forces me to swipe each time it face unlocks whereas there was a choice for the Mate 20 Pro. The iPhone face unlock with mask on is unreliable and keeps telling me to look down and it won't unlock anyway. I have to use the iPhone panic mode button combination to quickly force the keypad to be shown. With the Mate 20 Pro if I was wearing a mask I could immediately use fingerprint or immediately swipe and enter the code. When I tried iOS I kept swiping the edge of the screen to go back. Then I found out that iOS doesn't have a back option. It's one of the dumbest things about iOS and when I looked it up it was a stupid design choice to make it easier for users. iOS users don't know what they're missing out on with the convenient back swipe gesture on Android. If only Huawei wasn't embargoed …

    • +2

      Huawei are so overrated. They are a wanna be clone of iOS, got caught faking photos multiple times and their cameras tout high specs yet crap results.

      Good riddance.

  • +18

    can look at the configuration of the lenses of an iPhone user and I can tell immediately if they're poor

    You're an idiot

    I know a multimillionaire who drives a 10k car and someone on low income with a Mercedes

    If anything the poor people get more expensive phones

    • +9

      Yeah this is a really weird take from OP. Model of phone does not equate to wealth.

    • +1

      Huawei owner judging iPhone users for being poor lol

    • +2

      I think he's talking about apple deliberately changing lens Configs so people feel self conscious about "clearly" having previous gen or lower spec and appearing poor.

  • +2

    If the battery holds out until September, I will have used my Note 8 for 4 years. And other than the capacity of the battery going, I really don't see any need for why I would need to replace my phone.
    The camera is good enough.
    The speed of the phone is still adequate.
    The screen is great.
    It is a good size.
    Takes a uSD card.
    Has 3.5mm jack.
    I really don't get why people change their phone every year, and with current tech stagnation there seems to be even less reason.
    Apple announces every year that this is their best iPhone ever. Well I should hope so as you had a year to improve on the last one.
    Samsung are pushing folding phones but they still don't seem to be durable enough yet and I don't seem to be in the minority here as I have seen very few flip/fold phones in the hands of people around Melbourne at least.

  • +1

    There has been no true innovation in mobile phones since the iPhone in 2008.

    Apple would probably have the technology for the iPhone 20 in final stages of development, they just slowly role out bigger batteries, newer processors, make the iOS and apps more demanding therefore justifying upgrades.

  • Tl;dr

  • +4

    I'm using a Nokia 3310 at the moment. If you divorce yourself from the means and paradigms with which companies advertise, you can avoid their tricks and manipulations.

    Before the downgrade to a feature fone I was never particularly a frequent upgrader anyway and tried to get as much reasonable life out of a phone as I could. My wife is still on a samsung s7 and when I use it it seems fine. I'm a camera nerd so the smartphone camera tech doesn't really do it for me but I have to admit the tech is getting pretty good.

    One of the better forum posts I've seen on OzB, keep it up! I want to hear all of those shortlisted stories.

    • +3

      how long did it take you to type this?

  • +1

    OP, just ignore the ads.
    Don't look in the newspapers, don't go to the Samsung site, press FFWD when one comes on the TV :-)

    I'm very happy with an iPhone 5s, and my wife has a Sony-Ericsson flip phone.
    Batteries on both are getting a bit sad, and some websites are unbearably full of ads (er, slow) on mine, but you can adapt?

  • Just as a heads up, Samsung's August unpacked events are usually related to foldables and accessories (ear buds and watches). The S series phones and tablets are what they usually release at the Unpacked event at the start of the year.
    Like you, I used to update every year to be on the 'latest and greatest' but came to the realisation I didn't really need to do this every as that freed up those funds for other hobbies/needs/wants that I actually cared about instead of just being able to say I had the latest phone. It was also partly a bit of maturation on my part as to what's actually important to spend my money on in life - a brand new phone each year didn't rank highly on that list.

  • +3

    i believe any tech that you spend >$1000 on should last > 10yrs. You dont change your pc annually, why change phone?

    • +5

      you don't change your pc annually??

    • +1

      People have always updated their phones every few years, it's always been a trope even back in the age of dumb phones. And considering we use our phones every single day, more than we ever used our desktops and laptops, and that it's our camera and video camera, why not update it when you want. There's always someone willing to buy the old one, or a wife or child to give it to.

  • People buy new and sell their almost new.
    Keep up with the trend and get most of your money back.

  • +2

    In this week's episode of "No Shit, Sherlock…"

  • -2

    When we see someone with a Galaxy S22 Ultra we immediately think “there’s someone on a budget”.

    • Why?

  • I used to upgrade every 2 years, mostly because the phone I had at the time would completely shit itself. Last time I bought a new phone was January 2020 and it was the OnePlus 7T. Absolutely beautiful phone spec wise and still to this day feels like a new phone. Maybe that's what you need to do, go to a brand that isn't Apple/Samsung.

    Having said that I've witnessed a few people around me get new phones and it's making me want an upgrade. The OnePlus 10 Pro or even the 10T are calling!

  • What do you mean by 'you only have 1 or 2 posts left', why won't you be able to make any more posts?

  • Thought I'd go out with some humorous topics about what happened to me in my life.

    Can you please hurry up.

  • I bought a Z fold 3 because it was waterproof and foldable, then bundled with Telstra free TV and free Galaxy Buds.

    Bought the Galaxy watch 4 from Samsung education store for like 50% launch price to monitor blood pressure, but they didn't mention you had to calibrate it every 30 days… So now I barely use it because I never calibrate it.

    Then I bought a Samsung Tab S8+… which I haven't used because I have my Z fold 3.

    I feel ya, they entice you to buy for the bundles, but some of them really are good. I now have a TV in my bedroom which I didn't before and I have noise cancelling bluetooth earbuds which I never bought either, has been good at the gym!

    • Pro tip - it is impossible to measure blood pressure with a pulse oximeter sensor at anything that comes close to the accuracy of a BP monitor with a cuff.

      Stop wasting money on 'health' watches and buy real medical equipment if you need it.

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