Do I Need a Financial Planner?

Tl;dr: I have financial services training and manage my investments and taxes myself currently, but wondering whether I'd benefit from forking out to see a financial planner now that I'm thinking of buying a house to owner occupy or invest in.

Long version:

I currently have a shares and cash portfolio, and have been mulling for a while on whether to buy a home or investment property. Have avoided buying for a while as I thought prices were ridiculous and the market was a bit crazy, but with emerging situation am wondering if things will become more sensible soon and I'll want to jump in. I've done some quick checks and at a very high level think I understand what loan size I could manage under different interest rate scenarios.

My financial situation is pretty simple as I have no loans, have mostly ETFs and cash investments, and we're a single income family (not self employed). I've been doing taxes myself and being an actuary have been pretty comfortable up to now doing my own research on tax and thinking through risk and benefits of different investments. While I visited a financial planner years ago for an initial session I couldn't see at the time what new info they'd be providing that I couldn't work out myself, so didn't go back.

Questions I have: am I missing out? Is it likely that a financial planner will have info I don't have that will be useful? Am I crazy to think I'd be able to handle a house / rental property purchase and structure it efficiently without the help of a financial planner? Is it really $3k for a decent statement of advice, or am I overestimating the cost?

Any thoughts or prior experiences would be appreciated!

Comments

  • +5

    I'm thinking of buying a house to owner occupy or invest in.
    as I thought prices were ridiculous and the market was a bit crazy

    I think you are looking for a crystal ball, not a financial planner.

    • Nah, the crystal ball part I'd still be managing myself.

      More so I'm wondering whether it's likely they will be able to help me structure things appropriately, or point me to pitfalls or risks that I wouldn't have identified by myself given what I already know.

  • +3

    What OP wants is a "fiduciary" i.e. a financial advisor that actually gives advice in YOUR interest. Good luck finding one…

    • +2

      Literally all planners in this country have a fiduciary duty to their clients

      • What the laws have become…..like you'd have to have massive balls not to.

  • +7

    I've never used a financial planner, my financial planner advised against it..

  • You might get some advice that is beneficial and you might get some advice that isn't….It's all risk honestly you seem smart enough to manage your own finances, just be real and don't bite off more than you can chew….

    I have heard of someone close to retirement being advised to put their money in super, when the crash happend they lost a shit load only to be told you have to wait out the market and it will come back. After the market crashed is when they needed the money though being in their late 70s early 80's they don't have the luxury on waiting for markets to bounce back…

    • +5

      You can choose a super with a more conservative bond allocation.

      It's more the tax benefits of using super.

      • +1

        What a stuff up - paying for advice but not understanding it, getting them into worse trouble than doing nothing

      • True but when you're old you don't have time to wait for the investments to mature, She needed the money then not 5 years time. She took a massive hit…..

  • +4

    If you work in finance industry and deal with the plaanners or advisers, you will know how bad they are.

  • Where is the poll? Yes as you need to ask.

  • +1

    Who the hell (other than the desperate) needs a financial planner?
    OzBargain is going to be your primary source of advice

  • +1

    not in your situation atm, I would say. maybe just review your insurance. If you have deposit buy a house within the next 6 months.

    If your super balance is 250k+ then I would suggest meeting a planner

  • While I visited a financial planner years ago for an initial session I couldn't see at the time what new info they'd be providing that I couldn't work out myself, so didn't go back.

    That's because they're targeted at people who don't understand that credit cards aren't free money or people who have $200k sitting in the account they've had since they opened a dollarmite account in primary school. They are more aimed at budgeting really, what are your goals and how are you going to achieve them.

    Unless you have enough money to start playing around in risk vs reward (i.e. millions, or at least a salary over $500k). It's not hard to figure out interest rates on a house (every bank has a calculator for that) or google the returns from ETFs vs fixed term accounts, or google your state revenue office to see what first home buyer grants you can get.

  • +1

    Nah, just buy more shoes from the deals here.

  • Maybe an accountant with experience in property buying/investing to know all the financial tricks and advantages eg what you can claim like depreciation

    • Yes. An accountant can’t give planning advice, but can answer specific questions of the type the OP is asking I think.

  • An outside perspective can be useful.

    • This is true. You don't know what you don't know until someone shows you.

      However, I'm not convinced that a financial planner is the ultimate source of an outside perspective.
      Personally, I'd rank ozbargain higher.
      I hope this doesn't sound unfaithful, but google has provided me a lot of advice too.

  • No;

  • Maybe, depending on your situation.

    A financial planner is required by law to give you a full financial plan taking into accounts all of your situation. The planner will look at your insurances, consider wills, suitability of trusts, your tax situation, your financial goals, your comfort with risk… etc etc and draw up a plan for you. That has significant costs to the planner in terms of time and effort and so it will cost you a few thousand.

    You might need all of that, or not.

    But if you already have all of that covered you can contact a planner and ask targeted questions. That is called "specific advice" and the planner can answer those questions for you without considering the broader picture. But some planners wont do this.

    I also have financial training but dont work in the finance sector so I have used a financial planner and paid for a plan. It was helpful in the broader context. It also allowed me to go back to the planner every few years to seek further advice on specific issues to guide further investments. For me a financial planner was a godsend.

    However they are not for everyone. And it can be hard to find a good one. The Australian has a list of the 100 top fin planners that they produce every year. The other way is to ask around with people you trust to see which are the best planners in your area.

  • +2

    I am a financial adviser (although I mostly specialise in investments) and I think the answer is: maybe.

    That is, most financial planners don't really focus on property as it's usually not an area they can add much value to. If it's property in super or something complicated,then yes. But if you are just planning to buy an investment property in your name, then maybe not. Then again, a planner can possibly give your plans a once over and make sure you're not doing anything stupid, but it will cost you a few thousand for that (as can an accountant). Ask friends or family for a reference and go and ask and see what the planner says (many don't charge for the initial meeting, so where's the risk?).

  • +2

    I ran from one when he wanted $3,800.00 (with the discount of course) to come up with a plan, then another $180.00 monthly management fee ongoing. Told him I was after sound financial advice not another mortgage.

    • Lol rip off. Mine was free with my bank and managed to get me some good investment options that returned a guaranteed profit of at least 3% per annum.
      Paying $3,800 for advice you can get for free….

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