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Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life

If you couldn't get enough of the original lobster book and need another 12 rules in your life, this ones for you. Its a steal at 49% off. Sold by Amazon. Enjoy :)

12 Rules for Life: an Antidote to Chaos

The original lobster book that started it all in paperback form. Love him or hate him its a bargain none the less so play nice in the comments section. Sold by JASPBK, fulfilled by Amazon.

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  • +13

    Im sure a civil comment section will ensue

  • +4

    In 4 spicy comments

  • +3

    I’ve seen this fellow on YouTube wearing flashy 3 piece suits and weeping away… seems kind of unhinged.

  • +4
    "Do not carelessly denigrate social institutions or creative achievement."
    "Imagine who you could be and then aim single-mindedly at that."
    "Do not hide unwanted things in the fog."
    "Notice that opportunity lurks where responsibility has been abdicated."
    "Do not do what you hate."
    "Abandon ideology."
    "Work as hard as you possibly can on at least one thing and see what happens."
    "Try to make one room in your home as beautiful as possible."
    "If old memories still upset you, write them down carefully and completely."
    "Plan and work diligently to maintain the romance in your relationship."
    "Do not allow yourself to become resentful, deceitful, or arrogant."
    "Be grateful in spite of your suffering."
    

    Saved you guys $17.99. Free wisdom.

  • In another universe, this guy would have just been the obscure brother-in-law of famed chip designer Jim Keller.

  • +8

    Loved his grandma sex dreams, very insightful.

  • +6

    I counsel a lot of young men. I recommend Jordan Peterson to many of them, and it often helps them significantly with their struggles.

    Ignore the pervasive caricatures of the man. He doesn't claim to be perfect, but despite his shortcomings he's so much more worthy of your time than are many of his typically rather petty and misinformed critics.

    • What do they actually criticize him for ?

      • +1

        Almost always it's more just personal attack and exploiting contextless sound-bytes. In the far-left consciousness, he represents a far-right bogeyman because he is both influential and strongly critical of the far left (even though much of his substantive material is more universal / classical liberal than anything). So it's a mix of the usual epithets like transphobia and now "deadnaming," misogyny, white supremacy, toxic masculinity, etc., and ridicule of traits like appearance, voice, demeanor, plus the fact that he is helping young men at all as if this is automatically bad. There is also deliberate health shaming on several counts: his reluctant carnivore diet (as if it were ideological rather than born of necessity due to autoimmune conditions), his tendency to tear-up as a function of depression and the effect of decades of counseling others with suffering/trauma and indeed emphasizing this theme repeatedly when he speaks, and the irony of an expert on depressive conditions (though not medications per se) succumbing for a time to severe side-effect of a class of antidepressant drugs. All of this type of criticism that I've seen has been poorly motivated and evaluated. It says so much more about the person issuing it than it does with any accuracy about the man himself.

        Some fairer criticism of a covid-era shift was articulated by a channel called Rebel Wisdom, who were formerly quite supportive of Peterson. Fortunately, some of those concerns–like an abrasive Twitter personality–are gradually being allayed, at least among those of us who would see him do well.

    • +5

      Good to see your vote is based on the deal and not anything personal you have towards the author 🙄

      At the very least you should educate yourself on the circumstances arounds JPs recovery and why he went to Russia for treatment. You dont have to like the guy, but knowing the truth would just save you from looking foolish in front of your peers going forward.

    • +5

      Seems you may have missed the lesson as a kid on “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all”..
      His advice isn’t for everyone .. I’m not sure why you just go in commenting so negatively with an attack on him.. who do you recommend for people who do seek life advice???

  • +1

    Cheaper at Big W and Amazon.

    Personal feelings aside, not a good deal.

  • Love this book, because it lead to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWXxlYzBCno

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