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Decent price for a 1tb storage, haven't seen it for $124 for a long time.
WD Black 1TB SN770 NVMe M.2 SSD $124.71 Delivered @ Amazon UK via AU
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Llazybastard on 26/11/2022 - 07:02 amazon.com.au (848 clicks)
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not really. I mean its not like games take advantage of that highspeed atleast not for a year I think. I would suggest just save ur self some money
Not unless you have another PCIe gen 4 SSD that's faster and just as large. SN770's sustained write after SLC cache is used up isn't great. But the usage that might hamper it is a situation where you are cloning from a faster SSD. The speed is still decent enough if you compared to PCIe gen 3 SSDs after SLC cache is depleted.
If you currently have 250GB P2 and you won't even notice the SLC cache depleted for that initial cloning (coz when the drive is empty, the SLC cache size is bigger than 250GB). In gaming, you spend most of the time doing reads, you don't re-install games every day.
Appears test result conflicts with claimed performance. From review;
The m.2 nvme ssd according to the seller is 5000 but when i checked the speed on my pc it wont go more than 3500.
So that was a dissopointment.
Better buy the speed of 3500 than to pay extra for this 5000.
lol. you post this on Amazon as well.
maybe your old machine doesnt support gen 4 pcie
The 5000 figure is the best case when you run apps or benchmark that can take advantage of high thread and queue depth. All SSDs report their best figures that way. But a more real life like test (when you don't just run benchmark software and do nothing) from Tomshardware:
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/C6DKrBygwpMAYAE9s4qPV8-970…
Basically, after some decent amount of write activities, a read test was then performed.
What's your PC config? Also, is it connected to the PC's PCIe gen 4 m.2 slot wired to the CPU or the chipset?
Any Ssd for surface pro 8 at discounted price??
Should I buy this if my motherboard only pcie 3.0?
It comes down to how you feel about Samsung 980 1TB @ $119 (do check prices elsewhere, I just googled and picked the first one I can find). That one is PCIe gen 3, also DRAMless.
Annoyingly, there is also Kingston NV2 1TB at $99 (or $91 last week from Amazon UK), but that one has only 3 years warranty. Be aware that NV2 has controller lottery. The AU version appears to be Phison E21 (for now). However, not sure why Kingston did to it because it does not perform like a E21 should. I am guessing Kingston did something to slow it down on purpose to match its Silicon Motion controller batch (Amazon UK ones are using that controller and those ones you are a little bit slower).
PCIe Gen 4 is backward compatible, so a PCIe Gen 4 device connected to a PCIe Gen 3 system will function normally at PCIe Gen 3 speeds.
Perhaps another way to look at it is what exactly is the weakness of this SSD (because there should be a reason why it can be priced like this)?
While SN770 does well in majority of benchmark tests, there is one type of tests where is struggles: stress test / consistency test. It is a type of test where you just keep on throwing heavy workload to this drive for hours (i.e. PC Mark 10 Consistency Test). That test runs for hours. SN770 is unable to beat flagship class PCIe gen 3 SSDs with DRAM (i.e. SN750). It is a rare case for general public.
So, for personal use, not constant video work for hours, SN770 is great. When you run it at PCIe gen 3, you do limit it to the same 4 channels setup (whereas flagship PCIe gen 3 runs at 8 channels - but again, you need usages which can take advantage of that - not easy for general use).
All that you said it's true, and I believe if you're buying pc components for work, it's almost impossible to get a bargain.
This ssd will suit general use with "decent" speed at whatever you throw at it.
We've had good SN850X, SN850, 530, 980 Pro, 990 Pro deals posted. Thing is too many of us are basing our decision on some benchmark tests (when the SSD is empty). We are merely using those benchmark results to numb our brain to buy this.
If you do have a PC with PCIe gen 4 m.2 slots, is SN770 really such a good choice, especially knowing its consistency test result is poor? Then, there is a question of how useful 1TB is going to be in the long run as we are clearly seeing sales on 1TB SSDs. SSD makers know a lot of us want cheap 2TB or greater for gaming.
If you don't care about heavy workload and won't fill the drive up to 85%, or just have PCIe gen 3, then how useful is this?
970 Evo Plus or this?
Depends on (1) price and (2) your usage pattern. The new batch (late 2021 or newer) of 970 Evo Plus has a new controller, but the NAND is inferior than older batch (but is roughly the same as SN770). It's also why the new batch is cheaper. If you have PCIe gen 4, then SN770 is a better choice. If you have a PS5, then SN770.
If you are asking this question, then most likely the consistency test issue with SN770 doesn't affect you. You also won't run into the situation where the limited HMB (to counter DRAMless) affects your workload. For PCIe gen 3, you need to take consideration you won't get the same results for SN770 compared to PCIe gen 4.
I wish I have a SN770 coz. then I can do some tests for you guys. Anyway, what I did was a test using a Thunderbolt enclosure. The reason is that Thunderbolt is currently limited to PCIe gen 3 x4 and it tends to spot SSDs which cheat too much. I know NV2 is one notch below SN770 and is basically the lowest of low end PCIe gen 4. Also, through Thunderbolt, there is overhead (compare to native PCIe gen 3 x4 m.2. slot).
Thunderbolt 4 (PCIe gen 3 x4 mode) Max Seq Read Max Seq Write 70% Read + 30% Write Mixed Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB (new batch) 2873 2774 3427 Kingston NV2 1TB (Phison E21) 2885 2489 2779 Kingston NV2 1TB (Silicon Motion SM2267XT) 2627 989 1634 SN770, in PCIe gen 3 x4 mode, my expectation is that it should beat 970 Evo Plus 1TB in read and write by a little bit (write I am not very sure, especially through Thunderbolt). Mixed is the bit I am not sure. Your result in an actual PCIe gen 3 x4 m.2 slot for any of the SSDs mentioned will be higher than this. However, in real life, to pump this much data to the drive, you actually need a source SSD that's faster. The test above puts data in RAM first before running the tests. That said, as I mentioned before, with consistent workflow for a long period of time non-stop, 970 Evo Plus (8 channels) does beat all these DRAMless PCIe gen 4 with a 4 channel controller.
So, for now, if you have PCIe gen 3 only and is looking for the cheap NV2 1TB, it might be safer to stick with local retailers and get the E21 version (I've done the tests twice to confirm). If you don't intend to use Thunderbolt, then it should fine to still get it I guess. I haven't got around to test it on a PCIe gen 3 x4 m.2. slot on a PC yet.
As much as I really want a SN770 to play around, I generally go for top end PCIe gen 4 SSDs or cheap ones. It's hard for me to get it when I already have a 2TB SN850X.
I'm upgrading from my (too small) 250gb crucial P2 on my gaming PC
Is there ANY reason to go for a gen 4 such as Samsung 980 pro over this?