The once a year sale on lifetime WaniKani.
With a no foreign fee Bankwest credit card it’s about $299 AUD.
WaniKani (Japanese Kanji Learning) Lifetime Subscription US$199 (~A$299.50, Save US$100)
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I use to do it on my 1 hour train trips to and from work.
Got up to level 40, then covid happened and I started working from home. Didn’t have “spare” time to spend on it and I stopped… tried picking it up again after lockdowns but quit.tried picking it up again after lockdowns but quit.
Is level 40 considered rookie stage that you'll forget what you've learnt for so long ?
Will you learn the language too or just kanji?
Hadn’t heard of this before. But it’s basically a rip off of the Heisig method and a free SRS tool like Anki.
While I agree that it builds off those two, it does enhance on them in ways. The biggest thing about the site is how it streamlines the processes for you.
Anki requires you to make a deck or to find one from someone else, and from memory requires you to mark yourself (plus the UI is not as nice). It tries to present the Heisig method (disclaimer: I haven't used RTK) in an incremental form and integrates with the Anki process.
To answer another question: no this doesn't directly teach you the language, but each word/phrase will come with accompanying contextual sentences. You will definitely need to study grammar separately if you want to be particularly coherent (I can kind of follow rough topics in sentences based on Kanji without understanding the grammar particles exactly).
To people who aren't sure, the site comes with a "free trial" of sorts which gives you access to the first few levels. It definitely isn't for everyone, and does require a certain level of self discipline.
My experience: I got to around level 26/60 some years ago on a monthly subscription. I stopped because my work situation wasn't allowing me to get through as many cards as I would have liked in a day.
Duolingo is a good companion for some of the structure
I would say this is actually inferior to the Heisig method, as it looks like it uses word-based mnemonics to learn the meaning of each kanji. Heisig specifically warns against this, as it means you are relying on your native language to memorise the kanji. Using your native language to learn another language is not a good idea.
The Heisig method uses abstract images that you create for yourself (after the first couple of chapters) to memorise the abstract meaning of each kanji. As someone who has tried both approaches, I can say that the abstract images of the Heisig method are far more memorable than mnemonics, especially because you create them for yourself. When you have 2200 kanji to learn, trying to remember 2200 mnemonics is madness.
Everyone I know who has achieved JLPT level N1 or N2 (except Chinese speakers who basically know the kanji meanings already) has used the Heisig method.
Great tip, cheers
I agree, you're basically paying them to do all the "admin" work for you
Yep. Just download anki, a heisig deck, configure new cards to your liking and off you go. Fact checking is part of the learning process
Haven't used this - but it's made by tofugu who have a lot of really good free learning content. For example - their hiragana content is really good. https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/learn-hiragana/
kanji? learn from youtube. free and better resources
To be fair he has a point. I remember "learning" 2k kanji using the RtK method while going through kanji koohii. Massive waste of time. Maybe do the first 100-200 to familiarize yourself with the basic radicals and strokes but after that it's diminishing returns.
You're a lot better off learning some basic grammar and then figuring out a nice workflow to mine words while reading with things like Yomichan + Anki. Lots of guides on Youtube for that. A lot of learning sites try to gamify learning vocab which is fine but eventually people get bored of it, because frankly, it's not a fun game. Too many people fall into the trap of only using those sites instead of actually trying to consume native material that they're interested in (which is actually fun and doesn't need to be masked by game mechanics).
Heisig is gold. Many times I have guessed or known a kanji ( or hanzi) because of it, while not knowing the pronunciation. Never did finish it though
Bunpro is a similar application that teaches grammar which is also on sale for lifetime access
I just signed up to both for life.
Thanks trying it now…
The website interface is very similar
Is there a discount code? It's showing the standard USD$150 for me.
Maybe need to join with a free trial first?
I’ve realised the discount is not massive but wanted to sign up anyway.
https://community.bunpro.jp/t/lifetime-sale-a-year-in-review…
hmm… I also can't find the link. I can see posts in the community saying it is coming, perhaps I was in an early trial, but I definitely paid $120 rather than $150.
漢字は面白いです。
そんなに難しくないです。
Anki + reading(what interests you) is better. Always remember folks, kanji are not words. Learn words and grammar, then you can understand the sentence.
Wanikani covers 2000 Kanji and 6000 words (vocabulary). The vocabulary reinforces the learning of the Kanji.
They've put a lot of effort into making it a frictionless experience, you just put your head down and do the work. That's worth an outlay of $ for me, in a few months I'm up to 340 Kanji and over 1000 words, which I'm pretty amazed about. I've tried banging my head against the Anki world before that and it can be pretty daunting. This makes it super easy.
From their web site:
WaniKani is a Japanese-kanji-and-vocabulary-learning web app with a simple goal: teach you most of the 2,000 jōyō kanji (meanings AND readings) as well as 6,000 vocabulary words in one to two years.
Anki wasnt exactly friction for me either, find a decent deck and do it daily. Then some grammar stuff before bed like:
https://core6000.neocities.org/hjgp/
And i can read/watch almost whatever I want now. 5 years later.
LOL, I forgot I was on OzBargain. Avoid spending money at all costs :D
@CaptainCoolio: そうとも. may you finally achieve the ability to read full speed katakana, puns, and 関西弁.
It's pretty good if you have time to invest in it. But I got distracted around level 6 and haven't been back since.