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Seems like a better deal than the $1899 Galax one the other day. However it's an Eagle which is the cheapest variant of Gigabyte's lineup.
[eBay Plus] GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB EAGLE OC Graphics Card $1889.10 Delivered @ Harris Technology eBay
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Another $1519.1 to go for jimmy.
U mean +$900 rite?
I can kind of understand why people with more money than sense are buying $3k 4090s for recreation. I have no idea why someone would want a "4080" that's really a 4070 (tiny die) for almost $2k. It's madness.
Well, with the 4070ti TUF coming out for $1699 and -+ $100 for other models (source: I work in the computer industry), I don't think Nvidia has gotten the hint that consumers are pissed about the price. I personally just bit the bullet for $200 more to grab a 4080 and call it a day, who knows when jacket man will wake up to reality.
If you bought it at these prices, it means their strategy worked.
Of course it worked - it was designed to work by a multi billion dollar company.
All these cards are coming out at these prices because people are buying them. Get an AMD 6XXX new or Used 3XXX. Everything else is just shitely priced right now. Unless of course you got the money to spend.
Lots of people got lots of money to spend after covid. its just the one without lots of money that keep screaming.
@[Deactivated]: Not everybody wants to spend it on GPU tho. Some will even downgrade GPUs to save few 100 bux.
i'm a noob when it comes to GPU but i'm trying to build a new pc rn.
why couldn't I find any available 3080/3080ti/3090 cards on any of the australian retailers? Everywhere is OOS, are they all been robbed, what is going on?@Smilence03: Where are you checking? I've found a few with a quick search:
https://www.msy.com.au/product/pny-geforce-rtx-3080-xlr8-rev…
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/54806/asus-geforce-rtx-3…
https://www.jw.com.au/asus-tuf-rtx3080-o10g-v2-gaming-gfxcar…Not saying any of these are good value though.
@ChillBro: Thanks for that mate!! I guess when I typed the above, in my head I was really thinking '3080 Ti'.
I struggled to find any 3080 Ti which is the specific model that I was hoping of getting. This is really making me sad rn :'(@Smilence03: Do you need to buy now? Keep in mind that due to the holidays, you might not receive it for up to 2 weeks so there's no harm waiting.
Do you need RT/Nvidia? If not, the AMD choices aren't bad value in comparison.
I just did a bit of crunching using the 4K 16-game average and the 7900 XT came out on top followed closely by 7900 XTX.
@Smilence03: I have no idea. Probably australian retailers dont want to import 3xxx anymore as people are demanding 4xxx. Thats why i said used 3xxx.
@John Doh: used 3xxx have been abused by miners, like yours. if you replaced the rattling fan there goes the warranty out of the window.
@[Deactivated]: Buying a used 3xxx is exactly what you did. lol.
Mines under almost 1.5 years warranty. I will get the whole thing replaced if I want to. Much better than the card you sold or purchased lol.
@[Deactivated]: I totally agree with you mate. I would stop beliving what a stranger "whom I known(or thought I did) for a year" said on the internet.
Either way there is no better GPU. Strix or the SG who cares. Even the 4090 will be a worse GPU to own some day. The better GPU is the one which we should enjoy using it or make maximum use of it and get the benefits from it. I never much did from the 1080, hope I do from the Ti.
Wish you a Happy New Year :)
@John Doh: he or she or they could be anyone, could be a 18 year old kid, could be an old fart, could be multiple people masquerading as 1 person.
but still, better replace that rattling fan, you need 3 full fans for max cooling.
@[Deactivated]: I totally agree. Can be anyone.
The fan resonates (not vibrates) only from 30 to 42%. I have set a custom curve to avoid that range and I dont hear it. When the time comes, I will warranty claim it and not replace anything myself. Thats why the warranty exists. Its not even a thing I consider an issue. Even the brand new P12 fans resonates at around 50% as reviewers say. Some fans are like that or probably bad. I dont give a damn about it for now.
@[Deactivated]: Atleast the way I was blocked after speaking all the difficulties i had shared as a friend, which was reiterated just before blocking. Its very hard to imagine a Great person such as Huang would be at the other end.
So it's 379mm when the previous 80 was 628mm and the previous 70 was 392mm as well,
2080 was 545mm, but it's bigger than the GTX 1080 at 314mm, and that was a well received card.The performance and the die size isn't the issue, it's just the price. If this was 800-1000 USD, I don't think we'd have the opportunity to buy these easily, yet.
The 4080 is 25-30% more effective and efficient than a 3080…
It should be the same as the 90 class card 80-100% over last gen, but if you factor in that this is yet another nVidia renaming scam for a 4070 then it meats the same level as the 4090.
3080 was 81% of the full GA102 SMs, 2080 was 64% of the SMs of the full TA102 die (which was enormous so this is kind of misleading), the GTX 1080 was 67% of the GP102s SMs.
The 4080 is a tiny 53% of the AD102 SMs.
Nvidia has never launched an 80 class product this cut down before. I don't why Nvidia fanboys are so desperate to defend this disgusting company. They deserve nothing but unwavering condemnation.
I mean what will you buy then? Go to the previous 7900 XT deal thread and you will see a dude cursing AMD to dead. It's not like everyone can HODL for eternity like Ozbargainers, we will have to buy something eventually.
@Masticccc: I'm very happy with my ex-mining RX 6800 and won't be upgrading for a long time. Ngreedia is currently sitting on over $4b worth of GPUs in their inventory, so eventually something will have to give.
Navi 31 is terrible. There's something very wrong with the new MCM GPUs, their paper specs don't match their actual performance. Likely Navi 32 will also be bad. Navi 33 might be decent if priced appropriately.
@iseeyou1312: Rumours are they were supposed to clock higher but cannot due to design issues. If they did, thier Raster performance would be closes to 4090. I believe they will come up with 7950XT and price it over 2.5 if they get close to 4090.
Another rumour says they underestimated nvidias performance uplift and got left behind. Who knows!
So what's your point exactly? The 4080 is 25-40% more effective than a 3080… on average 32.5% more effective.
Imagine you're building a new gaming PC or wanting to replace a 2060 or 2060 into 'something more' - the 4080 will suffice.
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: I said in my initial comment the 4080 (actually a 4070) is a rip-off, if you want to pay a stupid amount of money for a GPU, buy a 4090. Otherwise look at last gen, especially used cards.
@iseeyou1312: Well that's what you think - it's too bad that the 4080 has 30% more performance than a 3080 in real-world, gaming tests.
Did the 3060 gain 30% performance on the 2070?
I'm not gonna buy a 4000 series GPU, but if I had the money, I would.
In my opinion, I don't even need anything more than a 3080 for 1440p gaming - sh*t, even a 3060 kicks ass at 1440p.
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: The 3080 gained ~70% performance over the 2080 and came with the same MSRP. The 4080 gained ~50% over the 3080 and costs over 70% more (~100% in Australia). The 4090 gained 70% over the 3090 and costs 7% more.
If you think the 4080 is a good deal, then I have no idea how you passed Kindergarten maths lol…
In my opinion, I don't even need anything more than a 3080 for 1440p gaming - sh*t, even a 3060 kicks ass at 1440p.
I 100% agree with this, we're in an era where GPU performance has hugely diminishing returns. To go from my RX 6800 to a 4090, I would pay almost 6 times as much, plus use nearly double the power and really only get slightly better lighting and reflections at my 1440p UW res. Not at all worth it.
@iseeyou1312: LOL msrp? Used 3080s are still going for 1000 dollars on ebay - the RRP on the 3080 means nothing when they were going for 2k easily in 2021.
So just get a 4090 then or a 3080 if you don't like the 4080's value proposition.
I own a AMD 5700XT for that reason - it was $630 dollars in 2020… nVidia produces premium products… my 3060 and i7 gaming laptop is stronger than my 2020 desktop though…
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: I could've gotten a 3080 on launch for $1129. At launch 4080s were $2219, although unlike the 3080, prices are decreasing (but GPU mining is dead, in 2021 a 3080 could make $10+ of ETH/day).
@iseeyou1312: Well it's good that you could have but everybody else was paying exuberant amounts of money for the 3000 series GPUs
@iseeyou1312: Dude, it's just a computer component, yeah Nvidia are a scummy company, but they all are, some just slightly less so, I'll stick with my original comment, it's just price to performance, does it perform what you want it to do, no reason to play team red, green or blue, team competition is the only team we should be interested in.
@conza: Well, even though it's tiny, it's still a ~50% uplift from the 3080 because Nvidia effectively underwent two node shrinks (from Samsung 8nm to TSMC 4nm). What stinks more than anything else is the 70%+ price increase, the price/perf is much worse than the previous gen on a much larger die.
@iseeyou1312: Well what stinks is the 4090 took the 4080s place and 4080 the 4070s place but they still charged a bomb for all of these.
@John Doh: the 4090 is substantially better than the 3090 though - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOLEhIgTz6g
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: The only real card this gen is the 4090, all other cards are fake and named as a gen higher.
4080 16GB = 4070
4080 12GB = 4060If they named for what they really are then it would kill all their 3000 series dead in the pricing department.
@zCrimson: You are crazy if you think that a 12GB 4080 is equivalent to a 3060.
A 3060 is about equivalent to an AMD 6600XT, yet a 4080 is two or three times as powerful as a 3060, and a 3060 is not a weak card, like at all..
You might be confused because the 3060 offers 12 gbs of vram, but that's more to do with the 3060's chip and how it's structured to take 6gb vram modules at a time.. hence why the mobile version only has 6GB of VRam… they didn't wanna add 12…
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: Critical reasoning is not your thing I guess, nVidia lies about product names all the time, the current example is the 3060 8GB it's not the same as a 3060 12GB with less memory, it has the performance of what would be a 3050Ti (Desktop).
Performance uplifts are free as there would be no reason to upgrade if not, the uplift in class should be in the same ball park as the same class of card i.e. the 90 class, the so called 80 brick has like half of that uplift from last gen compared to the 90 brick. Also the CUDA count for the 80 is of the level of a 70 class card increase to the top tier card.
The reason for the naming scheme lies is if they actually sold the hardware of that class it would tank all the 3000 series pricing, stop simping for a huge trillion dollar company.
@zCrimson: Besides, the 4000 series has DLSS 3.0, which may turn out to be worth is weight in gold - or it may not… we'll see..
@iseeyou1312: But a 4090 is $1k more. There are people who don't want to pay $3k for a GPU, but want some under $2k and better than what is on offer from amd. If the ave is $2k waiting a year for it to get to $1.5k might be hodl for some still but heaps just see it as a spread cost over time. I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't want to be hodl forever while still running a 1070 or 1080 system and don't want to settle for less performance even if its more cost savvy.
I treat both companies as American corporation, and feel people treat amd weirdly more positive for the same issues
I don’t quite get your point on die size .. what’s the TDP of the card? How much power is it consuming? How’s the efficiency compared to last gen?
Aren’t these all more relevant than die size
@NuclearWessels: Die size/SM count shows you how cut down the card is compared to the full die and what tier of performance the card should be in. It's a very useful way to compare cards across nodes that lets you ignore the marketing nonsense. This "4080" card is cut down more that you would expect an xx70 card to be.
Obviously price/perf is the most relevant factor, but it also happens this card has terrible price/perf. The reason why this card is so bad (other than the price) is that Nvidia effectively underwent two node shrinks this gen, so they're release a 4060 Ti/4070 and calling it a 4080, with not very many people calling them out for it. But because AMD's MCM dies are having big performance problems, Nvidia is getting away with it.
@iseeyou1312: The 4080 has a TDP of 320 watts. The 3070 has a TDP of 220 watts.
If you're saying the 4080 is at the same level as a 3070 why does it have a 100w higher TDP?
Edit: I guess my point is that if the 4080 came out and the recommended PSU was significantly lower then I'd agree with you. As it stands now, the 4080 is still drawing the same-ish wattage as the 3080 and needs a beefy-ish PSU. I don't think it's fair to call it a '070 series card. There may be some argument calling the 12GB 4080 a '070 Ti card though..
Also stuff like memory, coolers, node etc to consider when talking about die size. IMO it's better to just compare the price/perf - only thing that matters ultimately.
But I think their point here was more in counter to Nvidias claim these prices are necessary due to Moores Law being dead and comments like that. Which is obviously not valid when Nvidia are raising prices while they have reduced their die sizes significantly.
everyone richer than you has no sense now?
not everyone is poor buddy. Graphics card are cheap compared to cars, golf memberships, unique holidays, luxury watches etc types of hobbies. Don't sound so salty next time.
$1299 and we have a deal.
Honestly I would buy this at 1400 but not a cent more
I'll take it for $1400.01 if you won't.
The people have spoken
That's still a lot for a 70 class card.
well spotted OP… but still an abysmal deal
Amazing deal, Jensen approves👍
Don’t neg ppl telling it how it is
+300 bucks for most to buy a new PSU!!!
Are you on a 500W PSU mate?
750w
Most dont need new PSU, these consume as much or even less than previous gen cards.
You can get 4090 at 2.9k so i dont think 1.9 for 4080 is a deal at all….
sorry mate but correct me if i'm wrong please. According to this benchmark video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOLEhIgTz6g, the performance/FPS increase from a 4080 to 4090 is about 33%. The price uplift from a 4080 to a 4090 is a whooping 53% (from 1.9k to 2.9k).
So, 53% more expensive price for a 33% performance increase, i think that is not the best price/perf ratio, is it?
Why do you think 4090 is of a better deal here? please educate meLOL, if you drop to the performance/price trap then u are wrong. You need compare the 4080 to 3080 launch price and then you will find Nvidia have raise the 4080 mrsp by 42% compare to last gen. However, the 4090 has almost same launch price to 3090. 4090 is always the premium card so 2.9k is reasonable to purchase, however 80 series never mean to be sale at this absurd price as it is more for normal consumer.
Should buy that aorus for $100 morw
Good discount given current pricing but still an ugly card at an ugly price. For one, can't gigabyte spend a tiny bit more time designing this card? Sure the Eagle is their 'budget' linup but there is nothing budget here with the card costing right next to two grand. It just looks so…basic and uninspiring and not any 'cool factor' here to speak of…and its not even a black card so doesnt even go well inside a black out build neither.
Aorus variant is much better looking and faster. Only $100 more hurry up
Some people prefer the minimalistic designs, especially those without the RGB party lights, the edgy red lines and LCD screens. It's essentially just everything you need and nothing you don't which in turn should save you money. This Gigabyte Eagle is to graphics cards what the Dacia Sandero is to cars.
Im fine with basic designs, but this honestly looks 'cheap' more than anything else. Im fine with minimal design elements, something like low end EVGAs are right up my alley, not these eagle cards no.
I'd go for the Aorus as well but my mATX case said no.
I wouldn't care about 10$ when Im paying 2000 for a gpu, 10$ is two packs of chips 🤪
This is simply a proof that Nvidia has no competition
And that people are easily tricked into believing what nVidia calls their products. I think the best bet these days is to buy last gens cards when discounted to clear.
You can have a PS5 or Xbox Series X for half the price. The 4080 produces slightly better graphics - but not massively though in most titles. Not to mention that gaming on a 4080 isn’t twice as enjoyable as on a current-generation console. Just saying…
XSX's GPU is roughly equivalent to a RTX 3070. The 4080 has almost double the performance of the RTX 3070, so the comment about it producing "slightly" better graphics is way off.
Something being roughly equivalent in terms of enjoyment is heavily subjective so to each their own.
can i do most non gaming tasks on a ps5/XSX? no? so stfu about that already
You most likely don't need anything beyond an iGPU for most computing tasks.
so buy 2 devices instead of 1? Great advice
Comparing consoles to computers is comparing apples and carrots.
$1299 and I'll buy one. In for a long wait.
Dont think its gonna happen until next gen gets out.
petrol is $2 a litre, I paid 80c before covid. 4080 won't be $900, $1599 maybe end of next year.
Who said anything about 900?
Shame. If only consumers stopped buying them, they'd be forced to drop the price. I won't pay this much for an 80 series chip.
That would be a $200 stretch for me but would be tempting
Once it comes down to $1200 or so, then, maybe…. But at that point maybe I'll be better off waiting until the next gen after this one. It's just too expensive.
$1100 was what I paid for a GTX1080TI 5 years ago. That was a lot back then. I’m with you, if Ngreedier lower RTX4080 to $1200 then they will also have my attention
You do realise the stock is sold so rapidly that most people can not even get their hands on one right? Why would they ever entertain the idea of lowering the price? Sounds like you are living in fairy land or something. Its another story if they can't get sales but its always 'out of stock' so they don't need 'your attention' get it?
99% chance that you just end up buying a second hand last generation card that they pumped out so you end up spending money on them anyway lol
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another $900 to go,