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Predator Vesta RGB Gaming RAM 32GB (16GBx2) 3600 MHz DDR4 CL14 1.45V $340.93 Delivered @ Amazon US via AU

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Simon86 on 17/01/2023 - 16:39 amazon.com.au (222 clicks)
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Pretty good deal for Samsung B-Die RAM as they seem to be getting harder to find or over $400. I recently got the 5800x3D and wanted to upgrade my 16GB 3200 CL14.

It's exactly the same as the HP V10 RAM but with different heatsink/label made by Biwin:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/745682 - $372~ for the 32GB 3600 CL14

The timings aren't the perfect 14:14:14 but are actually 14:15:15, might be able to overclock with 1.5v but will see.

There's also:
16GB 3200 CL14 1.35v - $186.63
16GB 3600 CL14 1.45v - $198.49
32GB 3200 CL14 1.35v - $329.23

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  • hexedhavoc on 17/01/2023 - 16:57
    +6

    What sort of performance gains can be had from cl14 compared to something like cl16? surely it isn't on the level where it makes sense to spend double the price?

    • euphoria1337 on 17/01/2023 - 17:44
      +1

      Niche product is niche. You're not gonna notice the dif in real world use, but it would help if you're interested in OC leaderboards.

    • jbird84 on 17/01/2023 - 17:45

      The difference will be small enough that it won't be noticeable. Focusing on RAM timings is one of the least cost-effective ways to upgrade a machine. If I wanted to spend $340 on RAM I'd go higher capacity rather than higher speed.

      • aaronmr on 06/02/2023 - 08:29
        -1

        False, thanks for showing you know little about RAM/gaming:

        https://github.com/xxEzri/Vermeer/blob/main/Guide.md

        • jbird84 on 06/02/2023 - 09:56

          "I almost entirely avoided GPU bottlenecking by focusing on settings which were very easy for the graphics card to run. This generally means flat low settings," cool, sounds like cherry picked tests done with bad settings (which no one in their right mind would actually run if they were paying a premium for parts), meaning this is meaningless. but thanks for posting

          • aaronmr on 06/02/2023 - 10:05
            -1

            @jbird84: It's literally a guide that shows the most recommended gaming CPU getting more frames from improved ram timings by up to %73 and you say 'meaningless'.

            Try re-reading it and maybe, you'll understand.

            Edit: Those settings were chosen to see improvement from the CPU with RAM.. and not the GPU. TLDR; You're a clown.

            • jbird84 on 06/02/2023 - 10:32

              @aaronmr: Under the header "Methodology" literally the first sentence is "I almost entirely avoided GPU bottlenecking by focusing on settings which were very easy for the graphics card to run." i.e., not normal settings. You are really emotional about this topic though so if you want to live in this fantasy world, go for it

              • aaronmr on 07/02/2023 - 16:03
                -1

                @jbird84: What relevance does avoiding GPU bottlenecking have with your statement that RAM has no effect in increasing performance?

              • aaronmr on 09/02/2023 - 07:55
                -1

                @jbird84: You've repeated yourself twice and avoided answering my only question, you're the one living in a fantasy world.

                • jbird84 on 09/02/2023 - 10:12

                  @aaronmr: The "relevance" you are asking for is that these benchmarks are being made using settings that aren't typical or realistic for actual people playing games, they're designed to create as much of a disparity as possible to fit a narrative, so they are not relevant as indicators of real-world performance. The fact that you had to go find some obscure post on github to confirm your beliefs further highlights this. Also why are you getting so emotional in a weeks-old thread that nobody's even looking at anymore? Find a hobby.

    • Simon86 on 17/01/2023 - 17:46
      +2

      The cheapest in-stock with a very quick search for 32GB 3600 CL16 that is B-Die would be:
      G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz CL16 DDR4 - $349

      And to get into minute details:
      3600 CL18 = 10ns (Cheapest non B-Die RAM)
      3200 CL14 = 8.8ns (What I currently have)
      3600 CL16 = 8.9ns (almost the same)
      3600 CL14 = 7.8ns (Posted RAM)

  • BennyHe2018 on 17/01/2023 - 18:04
    +1

    Top Tier RAM for Overclock Enthusiatic users.

  • JerraJones on 17/01/2023 - 18:52

    Couldn't you get a 4400mhz c19 partiot viper kit from amazon and lower frequency while tightening timings to get similar results? More effort but a 16gb kit only costs $156 (no 32gb option). Fairly certain it's samsung b-die as well.

    • Simon86 on 17/01/2023 - 19:44

      My main reason to upgrade was to go 32GB without losing speed

      • JerraJones on 17/01/2023 - 19:47

        Any particular usecase for the 32gb? I know productivity workloads where you'd need more than 16gb have no performance benefit with this much faster memory while in gaming where overall latency matters 32gb is completely pointless.

        • Simon86 on 17/01/2023 - 20:34

          Its for future proofing and didn't want to miss out on buying good ram with DDR5 becoming mainstream. Had my current 16GB ram for 5 years and said at the time nothing will need more than that. Now some games have 32gb creeping into the spec sheets.

    • pedeyet762 on 17/01/2023 - 20:14

      Yeah there are cheaper alternatives to the acer for both 16gb (patriot 4400cl19) and 32gb (hp 3200cl14). I assume it is because the acer kits have higher grade bin of b-die which is why they are running at lower latencies at stock (7.8ns acer vs 8.6ns patriot & 8.8ns hp). If this is indeed that case, then the acer kit can be pushed further than other two after fine-tuning.

  • Sleepycat3 on 17/01/2023 - 21:30

    The 3200 CL14 1.35V version is likely better binned than the 3600 CL14-15-15-15 1.45V. I have the G.Skill version of 3200 CL14 1.35V and it will run 3600 CL14-14-14-28 at 1.35V with 2 sticks on a 5900X. I'm running 4 sticks at 3600 CL14-15-14-28 but it needs 1.46V because of the 4 sticks.

    • Simon86 on 17/01/2023 - 22:46

      Hmm that may be true
      Cheapest I found at that spec:
      $311 - G.SKILL F4-3200C14D-32GTZKW Trident Z Series 32 GB (16 GB x 2) DDR4 3200 MHz CL14

      • soymeat on 19/01/2023 - 12:07

        Good find. I was thinking about returning my G.Skill non-B Die RAM that I haven't used yet and getting this, but price has jumped up significantly and listing an Australian seller.

        I think when it was at $311 with free Prime shipping it was via Amazon Germany.

        • Simon86 on 19/01/2023 - 12:38
          +1

          Yeah there were only 2 left at $311 with free Prime Delivery

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