Parking outside My Windows on Shared Driveway

Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 10:30
Last edited 23/01/2023 - 10:38 by 1 other user

Hi everyone. I'm looking for some advice as to what you think is appropriate in this situation as I'm unsure where/who else to ask.

I live on a hammer head block and share a driveway with my neighbour. I can enter my town house without disturbing her, but she needs to drive past my house to get access to her town house. This is fine, except she has a "visitor" that parks his car directly in front of my town house, multiple times a week (mostly late at night and into the next day).

There is plenty of parking on the street. Our bedrooms are at the front of the property and having people come and go isn't the greatest at the best of times, but having someone park within arms reach of my windows feels like a huge invasion of my privacy. I never have my windows or blinds open because of the ugly view/noise/smell of the old car and that just feels unfair to me. I would at least like to enjoy the morning sun in my bedroom without a car blocking it. I have lived here significantly longer and it's definitely not what I signed up for.

Please tell me if you think I'm being unreasonable. I have discussed the matter with her in the past and she agreed I deserve to feel comfortable in my home, but nothing changed. Please be gentle, I'm a tired mum who just wants to live in peace.

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Comments

  • ThithLord on 23/01/2023 - 10:39
    +19

    Can you leave a friendly note on the car explaining your request? "I am kindly asking you to park your vehicle on the street as it can inhibit my ability to enjoy peace and quiet in my own bedroom. Thank you"

    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 23/01/2023 - 11:01
      +14

      yeah, this, they might just think it's fine because no one said anything.

      (or they could be complete a-holes, and this is the start of civil war between you and neighbour)

    • ThithLord on 23/01/2023 - 11:53
      +26

      If the above doesn't work, buy the cheapest car you can (don't register it), dump that in the spot old m8 likes!

      • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 13:57
        +6

        You are my people. Thank you 🙂

      • DashCam AKA Rolts on 23/01/2023 - 18:20

        buy the cheapest car you can (don't register it), dump that in the spot old m8 likes!

        Can't do that, O.P. would be blocking access to neighbour's garage.

        • Poor Ass on 25/01/2023 - 12:04
          +1

          no photos don't know the full story

          • DashCam AKA Rolts on 25/01/2023 - 14:14
            +1

            @Poor Ass: See the diagram O.P. posted.
            https://ibb.co/Y2mjNQN
            O.P.'s explanation of the diagram: The black being the houses, red being the "visitor" car, blue being the roller doors

            • Poor Ass on 25/01/2023 - 14:17

              @DashCam AKA Rolts: Nice

            • [Deactivated] on 25/01/2023 - 17:40

              @DashCam AKA Rolts: If that's the actual layout, and the top blue door belongs to the other tenant, I'd move. Short of swapping garages so the OP can park in front of her own window, there's no way to stop it happening because the other woman has to be able to leave her own garage. Whoever designed the layout of those properties needs a good hard slap.

              • DashCam AKA Rolts on 25/01/2023 - 18:03

                @[Deactivated]: If you read all of OP's comments, you'll find that both of those garage doors are for the other property. OP drives straight up her driveway into her garage on the far left of her property.

                • [Deactivated] on 25/01/2023 - 18:07

                  @DashCam AKA Rolts: Ugh what a situation. I did read it but the picture doesn't show the other parking space. So I thought the upper garage was the other tenant's garage, while the lower blue line was the OP's garage.

                  Yep, I'd move.

                  Edit: OR… Give HIM the OP's parking space. Assuming there's no windows there, so the OP can park where he does in front of her own window.

      • HeWhoKnows on 24/01/2023 - 08:31
        -1

        Comments like these reflect on the foolish character of some people

      • siresteelhell on 25/01/2023 - 06:30
        +3

        A motor bike can take up a car space and not take up too much of the view….grab a cheap scooter and park it there… right in the centre of the park so it cant be used

        • DashCam AKA Rolts on 25/01/2023 - 10:16
          -2

          Can't do that, O.P. would be blocking access to neighbour's garage.

          • [Deactivated] on 25/01/2023 - 18:05
            +1

            @DashCam AKA Rolts: She only needs to park a motorbike close to her own window (as long as the OP keeps her car in her own garage).

            The other women can still exit her garage by turning her steering wheel slightly to pass around the motorbike. (The driveway is two cars wide and the maximum vehicle width without a special permit is 2.5m. So the driveway must be at least 5m wide which gives plenty of room for the other women to turn her steering wheel to pass around a narrow motorbike, especially if the OP's car is in her own garage.)

            So all she has to do is position the bike beside her window, but also back far enough so the guy doesn't have room to park his car between the cycle and his girlfriend's garage.

            It would take a while to work out the perfect position though, so no-one would do it because it's too obvious what she's trying to do,

            • DashCam AKA Rolts on 25/01/2023 - 23:26
              -1

              @[Deactivated]: Yeah, nah.
              Have a good look at the diagram and read OP's comments again. That would still obstruct access and be a d*ck move. OP has no right to put any vehicle that may hinder neighbour 's access. OP doesn't need to park anything in the neighbour's access to their garage.

              • [Deactivated] on 26/01/2023 - 11:40

                @DashCam AKA Rolts: Well I was merely answering the technicality of your statement. i.e. That it IS extremely easy for the other tenant to drive around a parked motorbike when she has say 75 to 95% of a car length to turn her steering wheel slightly after exiting her garage door. (Anyone who can't shouldn't be driving because they'd also be unable to briefly move over to pass a pushbike at the left of a car lane, which has much less room than a second car space provides.) It just wouldn't leave enough space for him to park his second car between bike and garage door. i.e. The distance would be too short.

                As for it being a d*ck move… Yeah, hence my last line: "… no-one would do it because it's too obvious what she's trying to do,"

                Having said that the guy is a huge "d*ck move" himself. A lazy arrogant perve: Too lazy to walk down a driveway of a place he doesn't own and doesn't pay rent toward; too arrogant to make allowances for others to enjoy the space they ARE paying for; and a perve because upon being made aware of the OP's concerns shrugs, continues on regardless, probably inadvertently peering in at times because we all unconsciously follow moving objects with our eyes). Whether he does perve or not is not the point… he's making a woman with kids feel uncomfortable, yet continues on regardless. He's not a man, he's a seflish, arrogant, controlling, manchild. "I do what suits me, it's funny I'm bothering someone, so stuff everyone else.")

                He's lucky I don't live there. I'm not a woman yet even I wouldn't tolerate a DIDO (as opposed to FIFO) parking a couple of meters from my main front window, let alone one that by the sound of it stinks of cigarettes, dropping oil, etc. Get on the lease mate or p__s your heap off out on the street.

                There is a possibility it's public housing. If the OP could probably report them because I believe there's a limit to how many nights he can stay over without having to add to the rent. The other women's rent would be discounted, paying only a percentage of her single income. Meaning it's renting well below market value. So if he were on the lease he wouldn't be just splitting the rent she is paying 50/50, government would require he pay probably close to the same amount his girlfriend already is.

                But as I said elsewhere here it's easier to move/apply for a transfer citing/playing up the reasons why. Privacy, children, the stink, feeling ogled, him enjoying the place while not paying rent, plenty of parks just meters away… Even half-decent real estates will move a person who pays their rent on time into another vacancy. (Let a guy move in there instead and see how fast he pulls his head in.)

                She'd get a better/more private home. Staying where you've been for years, ok, but the other woman could leave in 3 months and OP get an even worse pair move in. Worth it imho to get her own yard for her kids to play, ride their bikes safely as they get older, grow some vegetables whatever, without some Cheech and Chong toke car going up and down a shared driveway.

                • DashCam AKA Rolts on 26/01/2023 - 12:46
                  -1

                  @[Deactivated]:

                  Privacy & feeling ogled

                  A parked car doesn't beach privacy, unless a person remains in the car, clearly looking into OP's window. A car is an inanimate object and can't be invading privacy unless it has cameras or microphones directed into OP's property. OP never raised such a point, just that it affected her view. Read OP's post and comments gain.

                  children

                  How does a parked car impact children? OP complained of slamming doors, but doesn't state that the driver stands there repeatedly slamming the door.

                  the stink

                  A parked car car produces no fumes, unless it is used to store something obnoxious.

                  him enjoying the place while not paying rent

                  OP doesn't get a say in neighbours' guest, unless they are breaching noise laws, or OP is neighbour's landlord and they are breaching rental agreement.

                  There is a possibility it's public housing

                  There has been no statement whether this is public housing, and is irrelevant.

                  by the sound of it stinks of cigarettes, dropping oil

                  So many assumptions, no evidence of this from OP's posts.

                  too arrogant to make allowances for others to enjoy the space they ARE paying for;

                  OP is objecting to a car parking on land that is not actually hers, it's community title. You can only control the land you actually own, unless someone is breaking a law or regulation, in which case you can complain to the relevant authority to force compliance.

                  • [Deactivated] on 26/01/2023 - 15:14

                    @DashCam AKA Rolts:

                    A parked car doesn't beach privacy

                    No, the driver does. Which is what I said, and what you imply I didn't say. "Breaching privacy" is an ambiguous thing, much like noise complaints. In many suburbs of Australia f someone merely FEELS a neighbour's stereo is too loud, police can direct them to turn it down. Likewise if someone FEELS their "privacy" is breached, it is - for them and people causing it can be asked/directed to be more considerate.

                    How does a parked car impact children?

                    Stop trolling. You know full well I said driving in and out of a driveway of a property where he doesn't even pay rent - and where the children's mother DOES, who will likely at some point ride bikes/play ball in their own driveway.

                    OP complained of slamming doors, but doesn't state that the driver stands there repeatedly slamming the door.

                    Neither did I.

                    A parked car car produces no fumes, unless it is used to store something obnoxious.

                    Plenty of cars have an "old age" stink about them. Their vinyl, carpet, seat foam, plastics, etc all stink as the materials deteriorate with time. It doesn't matter what the source of the stink is, unless of course you're implying cars can't stink so the OP is lying.

                    OP doesn't get a say in neighbours' guest

                    But does get a say if there are rules about the visitor parking. Which, once again, I said. And which there probably are as council and government pen-pushers LOVE setting copious amounts of rules. As I said elsewhere here, I lived in a similar place and someone staying overnight, even more than 3 hours actually, was not considered a "visitor" and drew complaints from other tenants and threats of strata fines toward one unit owner who thought he should get his exclusive use to his own double garage, plus the group BBQ area at the end of the common driveway merely because it happened to beside his unit, plus the visitor parking spot - all to suit himself, except the guy in THIS scenario isn't even a resident!

                    unless they are breaching noise laws, or OP is neighbour's landlord and they are breaching rental agreement.

                    Which again, is what I said.

                    There has been no statement whether this is public housing, and is irrelevant.

                    Much like your trolling posts where split two sentences separated by only a period, argue I'm wrong, then immediately repeat what I said in the next line.

                    So many assumptions, no evidence of this from OP's posts.

                    Oh, but I thought non-running cars don't stink? Funny how you chop and change to suit your desire to troll.

                    OP is objecting to a car parking on land that is not actually hers, it's community title.

                    And here's what is it, the fourth or fifth example /\ so far. Arguing for the sake of arguing, then in the very next sentence we read…

                    You can only control the land you actually own, unless someone is breaking a law or regulation, in which case you can complain to the relevant authority to force compliance.

                    Which is what I also said all the way through.

                    Drained your daily build up of "agro" yet?

                    • DashCam AKA Rolts on 26/01/2023 - 18:49
                      -1

                      @[Deactivated]: Clutching at straws, or drawing a long bow? Take your pick of responses.

                      Plenty of cars have an "old age" stink about them. Their vinyl, carpet, seat foam, plastics, etc all stink as the materials deteriorate with time.

                      .. if you're sitting inside the vehicle, not sitting in your house metres away.

                      Not trolling, totally disagree with your extrapolation and I believe OP is being overly demanding/entitled.

                      • [Deactivated] on 26/01/2023 - 22:44
                        +1

                        @DashCam AKA Rolts: People's senses do differ in strength though. Otherwise every soldier could be a sharp shooter. There's a guy I know who can read distant number plates like he's using a pair of binoculars… while no-one else there can pin a single digit.

                        I can smell that "old car smell" cars get from sitting in the sun for months, from several meters away. And I've lived on narrow driveways and they often funnel the breeze. i.e. That breeze could be pushing the smell through and out an open window in her house, drawing in the smell.

                        Same with dogs. I know someone owns a dog the minute I reach their front door before seeing the dog in the backyard.

      • frostman on 26/01/2023 - 19:50
        +1

        If the above doesn't work, buy the cheapest car you can (don't register it), dump that in the spot old m8 likes!

        What a stupid suggestion.

        Unregistered vehicles on council property can be collected as abandoned.

        This is a very selfish act because OP DOES NOT OWN THE COUNCIL STRIP outside his/her house.

        OP was aware of the car park space before they bought/rented the property.

        The answer to OP is to:

        a.) install privacy shades
        b.) move out
        c.) grow a pair

        • ThithLord on 27/01/2023 - 09:41
          +1

          Yeah except from OP's wording, I don't think the neighbour's guest is parking in a designated carpark. Soi your whole comment is moot

          • frostman on 29/01/2023 - 10:17
            -1

            @ThithLord: Go back and read the story again,
            OP is a Karen.

    • HeWhoKnows on 24/01/2023 - 08:00
      +11

      "Hammerhead" is a SHARK

      I think OP means "BATTLE AXE" Block

      • O K on 24/01/2023 - 09:10
        +2

        Are you taking the Mickey? Hammerhead is a well known reference to a shape of a block. And yes battle axe can be used too.

        • he3at on 24/01/2023 - 14:20
          +2

          Aren't hammerheads in a "T" shape and battle axe in an "L" shape?

          • O K on 25/01/2023 - 08:05
            +1

            @he3at: Not sure. I have heard the term hammerhead thrown around often. Had not heard the term battle axe, but a quick google gave me the answer that battle axe is a shape of a block of land. But that would make sense.

      • schwinn on 25/01/2023 - 08:50
        +1

        hammer head is the head of a hammer…

    • HeWhoKnows on 24/01/2023 - 08:03
      -6

      @ThithLord
      So the other person is parking in front of thier garage.

      Whats wrong with that?

      This is very common practice even on common property.

      As long as the person isnt causing any obstruction to the right of access there is nothing OP can do about this.

      Yes OP can complain to Strata (if it is) that they are parking on common property and causing OP a disturbance. And strata will wrte back to that resident telling them to stop it.

      Alternatively know on the neighbours door and explain the situation

      Most neigbhours will comply for the sake of peaceful relations.

      • Baysew on 25/01/2023 - 15:31

        *their

      • ThithLord on 24/01/2023 - 09:37
        +1

        Sorry Amazingone, what's illegal about parking a different car in that spot? I mean, it's legal and all? It's not on a public road so it doesn't need to be registered? If they're not doing anything illegal, that should satiate your ridiculous ThEy ArE aLLoWeD To dO ThAt!!!

        • DashCam AKA Rolts on 25/01/2023 - 10:18
          +2

          what's illegal about parking a different car in that spot?

          Can't do that, O.P. would be blocking access to neighbour's garage.

  • pegaxs on 23/01/2023 - 10:44
    +3

    Is there a designated parking spot there? Do they leave the car idling or rev tune it in the driveway or just drive in and park it?

    • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 11:03
      +1

      No, he is parking directly in front of her roller door, which is right in front of my house. It's like an L shape set up, if that makes sense. I drive straight down the driveway and she drives down and goes right. He usually just parks it. But it's an old car and fills my house with fumes and the door slamming is loud. I have small children who day nap

      • Jimothy Wongingtons on 23/01/2023 - 11:19
        +9

        I have small children who day nap

        We have all sorts of random noises at ours with two constructions going on across the street, and a neighbour behind us just being loud and annoying in general.

        white noise machine really helped our two kids through the nap times.

      • HeWhoKnows on 24/01/2023 - 08:36
        +3

        "he is parking directly in front of her roller door"

        Tough cookies
        They are not doing anything wrong.

        "I have lived here significantly longer and it's definitely not what I signed up for."

        Again tough cookies
        This gives you no more rights than anyone else
        And the Aborigines were there before you!

        Maybe you should think about moving to a house where you have some control over the land around you OR out the the "bush"

        • smartazz104 on 25/01/2023 - 08:58
          +8

          Ok OP's neighbour, settle down.

        • Flying Ace on 25/01/2023 - 18:21
          +5

          Wow, such anger. The OP was reasonably asking what others would do, no need for such aggression to a fairly civil discussion.

  • AustriaBargain on 23/01/2023 - 10:44
    +7

    Leave a big pot plant there.

    • DashCam AKA Rolts on 23/01/2023 - 13:48
      +3

      In front of neighbour's roller door? That's not on, even if the car shouldn't be parked there.

    • HeWhoKnows on 24/01/2023 - 08:38
      +4

      Ridiculous suggestion

      Obstruction of common property and right of access

  • randomusername2017 on 23/01/2023 - 10:47
    +7

    This?

  • Quantumcat on 23/01/2023 - 10:49
    +5

    Renovate the garden so it isn't possible to park there. Big garden rocks or a raised bed.

    Need photo or MS Paint diagram.

    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 23/01/2023 - 11:02
      +5

      Indeed, so many questions that could have been addressed with a ms paint diagram. Hope OP comes back to clarify.

      • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 11:10

        I am unsure how to do a pic, my apologies. If you're standing out the front looking towards my house, her double garage is 90° to the right. The "visitor" parks in front of her left roller door, which is unfortunately directly in front of my house.

        • Quantumcat on 23/01/2023 - 11:23

          Oh ok, so that space is needed for the other owner to get in and out of their garage, and you can't build a garden there? That sucks. I think communication of some form will be required to resolve the problem.

          • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 11:27
            +1

            @Quantumcat: That's correct. Yes, we have discussed it before but I don't think I'm being taken seriously/she cares. I don't know if I can take it further somehow?

            • drfuzzy on 25/01/2023 - 21:10
              -1

              @Potatosaurus: She's within her rights to park there.
              You may benefit from moving to a house further away from neighbours if other people bother you.

              • morse on 26/01/2023 - 04:18

                @drfuzzy: I don’t know if she is within her rights to park in the driveway on communal property. Generally if it’s not a designated car park it’s not allowed as it can reduced turning space and access in case if an emergency. It would most likely be against by laws or community title depending how it’s set up.

    • HeWhoKnows on 24/01/2023 - 08:39
      +3

      Not applicable

      They are parking in front of thier garage and have every right to do so

      • AustriaBargain on 24/01/2023 - 08:41
        +1

        OP has every right walk around his room in his underwear while watching Girls Gone Wild on his window-facing TV. Keeping his window blinds closed has been accomodating and encouraging the outrageous parking behaviour.

        • ceroau on 26/01/2023 - 09:06
          -1

          Minus the girls gone wild thing cause I’m not sure the cops would tolerate some creepy middle age dude in his whitie tighties purposely watching porn in view of the community even if it from within own home. You’re absolutely right OP (who a woman fyi) is entirely within her right to do so

          Part of modern society where we moved everyone into shoe box spaces people are free to live their life’s so long as it legal even if it inconvenient to us it would be nice if people were more considerate of others but people are only interested in other being considerate to them not them being considerate to others, seeing op has tiny humans I bet she does a lot of annoying shit her neighbour would prefer not to deal with but that life.

          Op issue isn’t the parking. Dude is parking in the neighbours space just so happens due to the poor design of this place ops bedroom window is right outside that space. Real problem is Op is pissed off her neighbour is having her (profanity) buddy over at all random times and that her (profanity) buddy drives a piece of shit car and isn’t quiet when exiting or exiting the vechile. If this dude drove a telsa as a result likely not to slam or rev his car when he entered or exit she probably have less of an issue

      • Quantumcat on 24/01/2023 - 12:25

        At the time I posted the comment the OP had not told us that. Only that they were parking outside their bedroom window.

      • Baysew on 25/01/2023 - 15:32

        *their

  • Stopback on 23/01/2023 - 11:01

    Would you tell your bf to park on the street if a neighbour complained about car noise?

    • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 11:06
      +5

      She has 2 garage spaces which she uses between her and her child who drives. If a third car doesn't fit, I don't think it should then become my issue when there's parking available on the street

        • ThithLord on 24/01/2023 - 09:32
          +16

          This is the internet, you need to log off. Seriously

        • Quantumcat on 24/01/2023 - 12:26
          +6

          The land is common property and belongs to both of them. So no, they don't get to do what they want with it.

        • cute as duck on 25/01/2023 - 06:36
          +2

          I have concerns for your mental well-being based on your replies in this thread. It isn't normal to be this angry.

  • jv on 23/01/2023 - 11:04
    -2

    Just let the air out of their tyres.

    After a couple of times, they'll get the hint…

    • Mechz on 23/01/2023 - 11:08
      +1

      Borrow the valve stems and leave a note saying sorry but someone borrowed yours and you needed them asap.

      • jv on 24/01/2023 - 09:18
        +7

        The immature person here is the selfish one parking in front of their window as well as all the people who support the recalcitrant driver.

        • s1Lence on 25/01/2023 - 18:35
          +3

          New word unlocked: recalcitrant

      • RetroMetro on 24/01/2023 - 10:49

        Bro it's a joke lmao

        Stop getting fired up so easily

  • Ocker on 23/01/2023 - 11:09
    +1

    On whose title is the place the car is parked, or is it common property?

    • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 11:13

      I guess common property? It's community tilted, not strata. I am unsure if/how this affects things

      • Jimothy Wongingtons on 23/01/2023 - 11:18

        common property

        Are you on talking terms with neighbour? Or else try and leave a note like post above suggests.

        • banana365 on 25/01/2023 - 15:10
          +1

          Yeah, that's how life goes - "He keeps pissing on my doorstep!"
          @Amayzingone - "Stop complaining. He could be shitting on it."

      • suntap on 24/01/2023 - 16:38
        +1

        I think you will find you own 50% - one side- each of the common driveway and both have a "legal right of way" to use the other side of the driveway to access your property. The property boundaries then separate out into each owners home site 100%. The land in front of her garage will be her legal property only and she or any of her guests can park within her boundary. There is no Strata and no Common Property.
        pov: I built & owned a home for more than a decade on a battleaxe block with this set up which is very common for houses built behind others in front.

        EDIT* commented before I saw the diagram. have no idea what to make of it! I still don't think there is any common property as such; op will have to check his own property boundary lines.

  • GOMOOTYPRO on 23/01/2023 - 11:20

    Need an MS Paint job here

    • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 11:35
      +23

      https://ibb.co/Y2mjNQN

      The black being the houses, red being the "visitor" car, blue being the roller doors

      Sorry if I've uploaded this wrong, I'm unsure what I'm doing!

      • Muzeeb on 23/01/2023 - 11:40
        +38

        Well that brings a whole new standard to ms paint diagram backgrounds. Nice one.

        • DashCam AKA Rolts on 23/01/2023 - 13:51
          +1

          High praise from the site's resident MS Paint authority.

      • [Deactivated] on 23/01/2023 - 11:40

        Is he parking in front of your neighbour's garage? Is that what you mean by roller doors?

        • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 11:42

          Yes, her double garage is on a different angle to the front of my house

          • [Deactivated] on 23/01/2023 - 11:59
            +10

            @Potatosaurus: As you have already spoken with your neighbour about her gentleman caller's parking, suggest contacting strata next.

            Unless it is designated as visitor parking then visitors should not be allowed to park there as it is common property. Strata should put up a 'No Parking' sign & that fines may apply as a deterrent.

            I hope it gets resolved for you soon.

            • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 12:05

              @[Deactivated]: Thank you. Unfortunately no strata, it's just the 2 of us

              • [Deactivated] on 23/01/2023 - 12:18
                +1

                @Potatosaurus: Oh!

                Put up your own sign then and advise your neighbour in writing.

                Or do as suggested by @donbot below,

              • morse on 26/01/2023 - 04:30

                @Potatosaurus: A community title usually has a document that outlines the rules for the communal property. Should be registered with council. It will have things about the split of who has to maintain it, if/where you can park, rules about pets etc. given it’s a driveway space usually you can’t park as it impedes access (eg if an ambulance needed to come or you needed to evacuate), but realistically if you can solve it civilly through discussion you’d have to send her a letter and if that doesn’t work sue her, which would be a bit OTT.

                In terms of the visiting car if the fumes are excessive could report to the relevant transport or environmental agency in you state.

      • donbot on 23/01/2023 - 11:45
        +23

        Based on this, I'd talk to your neighbour about not parking on common property out of courtesy as its a shared space and disruptive to your quiet enjoyment of your house. Let them politely know that if they want to continue to do it, then you'll have visitors park infront of your garage like they do - if its good for them to do it, it must also be good for you to use common property in a way that suits you - but may inconvenience others - same as they are doing to you.

        If it continues - block them in once or twice and make them sweat a bit before you come out to move your car. They'll crack the shits, but you've tried to reason with them nicely - some people need some coercion to see the way!

        • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 12:07
          +3

          Thank you, I have been tempted to block them in but wasn't sure if I was overreacting. There is ample street space, not to mention this "visitor" has his own home to attend, so I don't feel like I should have to be so accommodating

          • Quantumcat on 23/01/2023 - 12:52
            +2

            @Potatosaurus: I think it is a good suggestion. Talk to your neighbour again and tell them that they need to make sure their visitor does not park there in future because the next time it happens you are going to block them in. Then do it. Your neighbour probably doesn't think you're really serious.

      • Stopback on 23/01/2023 - 11:52

        You only have one parking garage? Your neihgbour two?

        • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 12:05
          +1

          Correct, mine is long whereas hers is wide, so we both can fit 2 cars each behind our roller doors

          • jjjaar on 23/01/2023 - 12:33
            +31

            @Potatosaurus: Right so you actually need the area their mate is parking in so you can reverse from your garage INTO that area to then be able to drive forward into the driveway to get exit onto the street facing forward for safety.

            This is the conversation I would be having.

            Also depending on where you are and when this was actually built, this may be in the development plans when it was approved/subdivided, so they may actually have to keep it clear for that safety reason.

            Essentially it’s significantly safer to exit onto the footpath/street facing forward than reversing.

            • Potatosaurus on 23/01/2023 - 14:05
              +7

              @jjjaar: Thank you. This is the kind of logic I was not able to come up with on my own. My tired, emotional mind appreciates it

              • jjjaar on 23/01/2023 - 15:11
                +2

                @Potatosaurus: No worries at all. I hope it helps progress the conversation and that you’re able to move toward a resolution so you can get some peace and sleep!

              • Gesiet on 24/01/2023 - 08:18
                +4

                @Potatosaurus: I’d also mention emergency services access to both properties is important. Any cars parked in the driveway area will hinder access. This might be a requirement for insurance too?

            • kiitos on 24/01/2023 - 18:27
              +1

              @jjjaar: Good point, restricting the space op has to do A3 point turn, and also risks her damaging the other car.

              • jjjaar on 24/01/2023 - 20:34

                @kiitos: Yep, exactly. I have literally damaged my own car at a previous house because other cars were parked in the area that I need to do my 3 point turn.

    • Muzeeb on 23/01/2023 - 11:41
      +19

      Have you, you know, read a single piece of text above yours?

      I have discussed the matter with her in the past and she agreed

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