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[eBay Plus] Philips 1000 Series Air Purifier for rooms up to 63m² AC1215/70 $188 Delivered @ Bing Lee eBay

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[eBay Plus] Philips 1000 Series Air Purifier for rooms up to 63m² AC1215/70 $188 Delivered @ Bing Lee eBay
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Excludes: Northern Territory, QLD Far North, QLD Regional, WA Regional, WA Remote

I found this originally here: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/752466, but they dropped it by $20
I don't know anything about air purifiers. The Xiaomi ones seem popular here and cost around the same. So please rip me in the comments telling how Xiaomi model XXXX is better and cheaper.

I bought a Sandisk E30 for $89 thanks to @paloverde88. I still intend to buy a combination of things in my other post to make it to $500 for $50 off, but maybe include this thing if it's good.

Specs: https://www.philips.com.au/c-p/AC1215_70/1000i-series-air-pu…

Edit: $198 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com.au/Philips-Purifier-1000-AC1215-70/dp…

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  • cyruslol on 23/01/2023 - 16:19
    +1

    Good for hayfevers?

    • girafficlight on 23/01/2023 - 16:28
      +3

      we have air purifier for allergies and pets and I swear by it, even when my partner has been sick, smash it on max and refresh the air, get rid of bad smells and lots of dust in the air.

    • HeXa on 23/01/2023 - 17:14
      +1

      yes - daughter has this model in her room and helped her to stop the sniffles (was $198 at BL in Nov 22)

      decent airflow means she has the rear exhaust pointed at her during summer

      EDIT: got because lots of aftermarket filters on Amazon to choose from

      • azhar7772 on 23/01/2023 - 18:46
        +1

        Are the aftermarket filters cheap ? I had a look at a couple of them on Amazon and they are all $50+ for one filter.

      • PeeDee on 23/01/2023 - 21:49

        I have one as well but can't tell any significant difference. Are you using original replacements filters? I wonder if it's because I've been using generic ones…

    • vid_ghost on 23/01/2023 - 19:46
      +1

      I have this exact model and i run it only at its lowest setting once in a while.. worked very well for me… ALSO.. i quite the allergy tablets after 20 years of use. Took 1 month to detox and allergies were really bad but now my Symptoms are less of an issue and i dont really need to use the air filter…i will never take those tablets ever again. .. Paid $179 for this on the Bing lee website 4 months ago using a $20 coupon code i found online.

    • mrvaluepack on 23/01/2023 - 22:33
      -3

      If you have a sealed room and do not ever go out of that room lol. Once you step out to go to the kitchen/bathroom, etc - nose will block up or get all runny again.

      • vid_ghost on 24/01/2023 - 08:04
        +1

        No need to seal up a room..fresh air is important.

        • mrvaluepack on 24/01/2023 - 08:05
          -3

          Then useless to get a purifier.

        • UsernameChecksIn on 29/01/2023 - 10:50

          Fresh air from the air freshener?

          😃

  • dtingy on 23/01/2023 - 16:32
    +4

    I suffer hayfever or allergies. I have 5 units (2 x beurer, 2 x trusens and 1 x xiaomi). All 5 are based model. It does help my hayfever and allergies. All 5 units are running 24/7 in each bedroom and living room. All brands come with pros and cons like smart app, noise for sleep mode, shape, warranty, plug (au or europe for xiaomi). You will be amazed with the dust after 2 months of continously running. No regret as it does the job.

    • rosebank on 23/01/2023 - 16:36

      Do you have experience with Philips?

      • malignau on 23/01/2023 - 17:32
        +1

        I've got this exact model, had it for 2 years now. It does it's job well, basically a bit fan that pulls air through a fine mesh air filter and then through activated carbon to remove smells etc. It does it's job well, it significantly helps my hay fever and my bedroom has zero smells.

        Like someone said, the light sensor is slightly buggy, in dim day light it might trigger night mode which just means the fan activates intermittently. I don't see a problem with it, it's in the bedroom where I only need it at night anyway. It depends how you want to use it.

      • dtingy on 23/01/2023 - 17:38
        +3

        I dont have this philips brand. For me with 3 brands that i owned, they all no different in term of helping my hayfever or allergies. Its more on the pros and cons mentioned above. I would say as long as you buy those well known brands then you will be fine as i believe they all do the same things and most importanly to filter out the dust and particle and change the filter regularly. The expensive model is like you buy the top model of car with same engine just extra features.

        • [Deactivated] on 23/01/2023 - 21:03

          Scientific testing conducted by choice and others has repeatedly shown this is almost complete bollocks, fyi. The cheapies do a better job than nothing. The Samsungs top the list and the margin isnt small.

          • NonSense on 23/01/2023 - 21:43
            +4

            @[Deactivated]: Scientific testing conducted by choice
            Do you mean paid review my friend?

          • mrvaluepack on 23/01/2023 - 22:41
            +4

            @[Deactivated]: Spewing the same comments here as well I see. You do know the tests Choice conducts are NOT considered "scientific". They are just general consumer tests, that are not verified or peer reviewed.

            • Ibz on 24/01/2023 - 01:44

              @mrvaluepack: Better to go off a choice review over the opinions of commentera

            • [Deactivated] on 24/01/2023 - 02:06
              -1

              @mrvaluepack: Er, no, Choice are not "general consumers". For their air purifier test in particular, they partnered with an accredited lab.

              "How we test air purifiers
              We test each air purifier with particles of dust, smoke and volatile organic compounds (VOCs) to measure how quickly and effectively it removes them from the air. This test is based on the Clean Air Delivery Rate (CADR) industry standard test for air purifiers. It's a good way to compare models, but be aware that performance in your home might be different due to different room sizes and shapes and varying levels of pollutants.

              Each unit is tested on its highest fan speed setting to give it its best chance of performing well.

              The pollutant (dust, smoke or VOC) is introduced in a controlled way into the test chamber and mixed into the air, then the testers measure how fast it naturally precipitates or decays from the air. The chamber is then cleared and the test repeated, this time with the air purifier running. We calculate the percentage of particles removed by the air purifier and compare this with the natural decay rate measured earlier. This tells us how quickly and effectively the air purifier is clearing the air.

              We test models on their highest and lowest settings so you'll know which ones are least likely to disturb you

              The best air purifiers will remove more than 90% of the particles used in our tests. The worst remove significantly less than this.

              We test dust removal using fine particles of titanium dioxide. Smoke removal is tested by burning wood chips, and VOC removal is tested with acetone."

              The samsungs largest model got 95% on smoke and dust. There's plenty on the market under 50%.

              • mrvaluepack on 24/01/2023 - 07:55
                +1

                @[Deactivated]: What were samsungs CADR? And what were the others under 50%? What was the CADR per $?

              • quikstix on 02/02/2023 - 16:01

                @[Deactivated]: choice has some DODGEY results that other 3rd party labs have been unable to verify just like their baby car seat tests

  • kaz1999 on 23/01/2023 - 16:36
    +1

    I have one in every room + living room. Massive decrease in visible dust + pet hair. Makes my room smell less lol

    • rosebank on 23/01/2023 - 16:46
      +1

      This model?

    • GrsySandwich33 on 23/01/2023 - 17:29
      +1

      what happens to the pet hair? it gets trapped on the filter or something? never tried one of these but if it can reduce some of my cat's fur, that sounds pretty cool!

      • kaz1999 on 23/01/2023 - 18:13
        +1

        yes, it goes into the first layer of the filter, easy to clean

        • GrsySandwich33 on 23/01/2023 - 21:46

          do you have the model from OP or for another?

  • Denbo on 23/01/2023 - 16:48

    Was reading that these have apparently a flawed design with the light sensor (i.e. goes into night mode in areas with poor light). May want to do more research to see if that's been resolved ..

    • camshandez on 23/01/2023 - 18:27

      Yeah mine seems to detect night when I simply close a blind but still have a room light on. Haven't really paid too much attention recently though

    • skittlebrau on 23/01/2023 - 18:46

      Probably best to make it time-based rather than use a light sensor (if that's possible with this model).

    • jeozb on 23/01/2023 - 22:24
      +1

      I'm not aware of any option to disable the light sensor, but afaik this sensor doesn't slow down the fan speed when the speed is set manually (e.g. set to speed 2) instead of automatically. When the area gets dark, the display powers off (no lights, no numbers), only momentarily turning back on when the buttons are touched, but the fan maintains its manually-set speed.

    • mrvaluepack on 23/01/2023 - 22:36

      You should run all purifiers in max mode. Night/auto modes are useless.

      • Jugganautx on 24/01/2023 - 05:27
        +4

        Some of these people's houses must sound like a tornado

  • monkeynews on 23/01/2023 - 16:56
    +1

    Does anyone have any experience using this to prevent coughing? My wife still has post-COVID dry cough and it seems to be triggered by things like dust and air con.

    • bboyballsohard on 23/01/2023 - 18:46
      +17

      It works well. I use it in a room where the windows are never open. It freshens up the air like a nice breeze.

      I know it works because it has a light indicator indicating contaminants. I tried farting into the unit and it turns on red colour with the fans running in turbo mode.

      I give this air filter an A++++++

  • blkcar on 23/01/2023 - 17:11
    +5

    Not a Kmart lover but their large air purifier is pretty good (smaller ones are junk).

    $159>$188, 320m³/h>270m³h. Refills are probably cheaper too.

    https://www.kmart.com.au/product/large-family-air-purifier-4…

  • Ithinkimtheking on 23/01/2023 - 17:13
    +1

    Do these in anyway cool rooms?

  • BradH13 on 23/01/2023 - 17:16
    +6

    Got this model years ago and noticed no difference using it in the bedroom. Used it for a year, the fan started squeaking and then packed it back up in the box. No change in breathing or throat feel after I discontinued. YMMV.

    • binti33 on 24/01/2023 - 11:57

      Did you remove the plastic covering on the inside? I had it running for 4 months before I realised there was a somewhat hidden plastic film that needed to be removed lol

      • BradH13 on 24/01/2023 - 14:43
        +1

        Yeah, I did. I was always cleaning the mesh filter panel so I knew it was doing 'something', just didn't notice any benefits to it.

  • mortyestmorty on 23/01/2023 - 17:18

    This, or hold out for the 3000 cashback deal again?

    • hypnOtixx on 23/01/2023 - 22:39

      This for the bedroom, the buy the 3000 once it goes on special with cb

  • jcdenton on 23/01/2023 - 17:30
    +1

    I desperately need a good air purifier to stop my constant blocked nose and sneezing, considering the expensive Samsungs at the moment as I have two Arovec that do nothing. Judging from the comments here this may not be much better than the Arovec.

    • freesteakknives on 23/01/2023 - 17:47

      How do your filters look ? I have a Xioami that Ozbargainers swear by but not a lot of difference for me. I'm not changing the filter as often as others and turns out the air in my area is pretty clean . My problems are mostly elsewhere.

    • boomramada on 23/01/2023 - 19:59
      +2

      Dyson hasn't paid me yet but I know their air purifier works during the CBR bushfire.

    • Fredorishi on 23/01/2023 - 20:46
      +2

      Go see an immunologist instead.

    • [Deactivated] on 23/01/2023 - 21:04
      -5

      The comments here are pure copium by bargain hunter's.

      Scientific testing conducted by choice and others has repeatedly shown the cheapies do a better job than nothing, but the Samsungs top the list and the margin isnt small.

    • deadpoet on 23/01/2023 - 21:12

      Judging from the comments here this may not be much better than the Arovec

      That sounds likely. Sometimes air purifiers do absolutely nothing for people; it all depends on your personal situation. As others have said, best to consult an allergy specialist doctor.

      As an example, your allergies could be caused by something like dust mites — despite marketing claims to the contrary, air purifiers aren't a great solution to that.
      https://www.livescience.com/do-air-purifiers-help-with-dust

  • plentifoo on 23/01/2023 - 17:45

    so this is no better than the xiaomis? i believe i had the 3H back in the day and no discernible difference to the quality of the air that I could notice. I wasn't getting ill alot then but I am now…

    • deadpoet on 23/01/2023 - 21:39
      +4

      Philips Series 1000 is comparable to Xiaomi 3H, according to the CHOICE testing.

      They both got an overall score of 66% CHOICE Expert Rating.

      Philips Series 1000 AC1215/70:
      Dust performance score: 59%
      Smoke performance score: 58%
      VOC performance score: 31%

      Xiaomi Mi Air Purifier 3H:
      Dust performance score: 67%
      Smoke performance score: 66%
      VOC performance score: 43%

      The Xiaomi scored better in every way but still got the same overall score, lol!

      • UsernameChecksIn on 29/01/2023 - 10:56

        Amazing hundred points of arbitrary precision!

  • bobloblawlawblog on 23/01/2023 - 17:52

    my place is pretty dusty but i find the dust particles are too big to get picked up effectively by my Levoit 300 Core. Wondering if this would be that different?

    • deadpoet on 23/01/2023 - 21:44
      +1

      Nah, air purifiers aren't meant or equipped to deal with normal household dust/dust bunnies. They're for filtering out air pollutants and particulates (including virus particles).

  • Jammar on 23/01/2023 - 18:40

    Does this connect to smart app? I find them best when it can be automated with set level pollution, I.e. turn on when pm2.5 above 35, max when above 75, turn off when less than 30 etc. the filter last a lot longer.

    • azhar7772 on 23/01/2023 - 18:45

      No. Its not a smart one. Best you could do is keep it on Auto mode.

  • ichatting on 23/01/2023 - 18:45

    Air purifier = modern day sneak oil?

    • boomramada on 23/01/2023 - 20:52

      sneak oil doesn't comes with two filters

      FY1410/30 - Nano Protect HEPA - $74.95
      FY1413 - Nano Protect Filter - $54.95

      Or unbranded version from ebay https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/255541430169 $65

    • mrvaluepack on 23/01/2023 - 22:37

      It works kinda. It depends on the environment you are in and how good your room/house is sealed as well.

  • unelectric on 23/01/2023 - 18:48
    +1

    Do these deal with cigarette smoke? Neighbour's smoke is finding it's way into the living room and coming home to an awful smell

    • Slave1 on 23/01/2023 - 19:23
      +2

      If the filter has a carbon layer, then yes it should

    • mrvaluepack on 23/01/2023 - 22:38
      +2

      Yes, it should. It has carbon pellets gas VOC filtration.

  • justwii on 23/01/2023 - 18:58
    +3

    Opening these thing up, they are basically just a big fan with a filter, I see no advance technology whatsoever and wonder how they are priced so much.

    • edrift on 23/01/2023 - 19:19

      Yep you're right.

      Better ones have ionisers to make dust drop out of the air and UV lamps to kill viruses and mould.

    • deadpoet on 23/01/2023 - 21:15
      +4

      The main difference is in the make-up of the HEPA filter. The best ones have a more efficient filter with extra layers of material (charcoal etc) that filters out more VOCs (volatile organic compounds) for example. I personally don't think it's worth paying 2-3x the price of a "cheap" and proven base model like a Xiaomi, but Obsidiate will probably call me an idiot, lol.

      Another consideration is ongoing logistical supply of replacement filters, and their cost — you want to make sure that you can still buy the filters several years from now, since they are a consumable item.

      Another factor to consider is the CADR (clean air delivery rate) — bigger machines have a more powerful fan so they are able to filter more air in a set amount of time, so these machines usually cost more as well (and their filters cost more as they are bigger and have more material).

      • justwii on 24/01/2023 - 11:46

        Was thinking if I can just buy a HEPA filter ($50) and attach it to my pedestal fan at home.

      • UsernameChecksIn on 29/01/2023 - 10:58

        obtain replacement filters from all the major brands and stick it onto a single purifier / fan 🤪

    • mrvaluepack on 23/01/2023 - 22:40

      Same with any other purifier. But at this price, it's close to the next cheapest air purifier with similar CADR capacity and levels of filtration. So, a pretty good buy.

    • trawg on 24/01/2023 - 10:23
      +3

      This is somewhat correct - that is why there is a movement now around the Corsi-Rosenthal boxes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsi%E2%80%93Rosenthal_Box), which is basically buying a couple filters, making them into a box, and putting a fan in there. They are cheap and effective.

      One thing I would say about off-the-shelf ones is they do sometimes have some technology in them. I have the Philips 3000 which has a particle sensor and wifi, both of which I use all the time. Depending on your needs though a CR box would do the trick if you don't mind a bit of DIY at a much lower price point.

      The latest on that front is people making them with PC fans, which are much quieter (but obviously smaller so move less air). Pretty interesting.

      • justwii on 24/01/2023 - 11:48

        Exactly what I was thinking! Thanks for sharing, I will start advocating that to my friends and colleagues!

  • blackhorn on 23/01/2023 - 19:29

    hows this compare to dyson fan with air filter ?

    • boomramada on 23/01/2023 - 20:54
      +1

      Dyson has fancy software with particle count and x4 more expensive.

  • BinnyC on 23/01/2023 - 20:14

    Arovec is a good one.

  • hypnOtixx on 23/01/2023 - 20:58

    Any know how often the filter needs to be replaced?

    • Slave1 on 23/01/2023 - 21:28
      +2

      It’s dependant on usage and what it’s filtering out but if running 24 hours, it’s about 3-6 months.

  • ZuluOz on 23/01/2023 - 22:24

    There are a lot of Air Filters that make all sorts of claims and there is very little testing, I trust Choice testing and they reccomend the following:
    Samsung AX750k
    Philips 3000i
    Blueair 3610
    Mitsubishi E85R
    Sharp FXJ808J
    Samsung 5500K
    Inova E20
    Philips 2000i
    Panasonic PXU70M
    Winix AUS1250
    Bissell Air320
    Coway 1516D

    Anything below that isnt reccommended.

    • deadpoet on 23/01/2023 - 22:46
      +7

      CHOICE's ratings are rather arbitrary and curious. For example, the Philips Series 1000 in this deal got the same overall CHOICE Expert Rating (66%, "not recommended") as the Xiaomi 3H, despite the Xiaomi scoring better in every performance test (see my comment above with the details). You have to read between the lines when looking at their test results.

      Essentially, the machines that CHOICE scores the best are the massive chonky ones that deliver huge CADR, and have big expensive filters to match — obviously these will perform better than small machines. The top scoring model according to CHOICE is the Samsung AX7500K, which costs $800-1000:
      https://www.samsung.com/au/business/air-purifiers/ax7500k-ai…

      CHOICE Expert Rating: 87%
      Dust performance score: 95%
      Smoke performance score: 95%
      VOC performance score: 43%

      There's no doubt this is an impressive machine. Is it worth 3-4x the cost of a cheaper machine like this Philips Series 1000, or a Xiaomi 3H? I leave that exercise to the reader.

      It looks like the CFX-C100/GB filter replacement filter costs $116-149 each, and you need to replace a set of two at a time, so $200+ to replace the consumables.

      I definitely disagree with CHOICE about their "recommendations" as I think a machine like the Xiaomi 3H or the Philips Series 1000 performs perfectly fine for the average consumer. There are diminishing returns to be had as you go up in price.

      If you want the very best money can buy, sure, get the Samsung AX7500K. If you shit on everyone else's "cheap" choices, you can expect there to be blowback.

      • [Deactivated] on 24/01/2023 - 02:19
        -1

        ~60% stepping up to 95% percent filtration is hardly "diminishing returns" my friend.

      • mrvaluepack on 24/01/2023 - 07:58

        Hi, are you a shill or rep from Choice? Serious question.

        • deadpoet on 24/01/2023 - 15:52

          Not sure what you mean, how can I be a shill from CHOICE when I don't agree with their recommendations? No, I'm not a shill or a rep, just a dude who wants to get the best value for his money. There's a lot of misconceptions floating around about air purifiers, and frankly speaking IMO most people don't actually need one, so I'm always a bit surprised to see how popular these deals are.

    • froddoog on 23/01/2023 - 22:49

      Was looking into blueair air purifier
      Anyone use it before?

  • jedimaster on 23/01/2023 - 23:37

    Bought this for $198 first week of this January from Amazon. Prior to that I had runny nose every morning and had to take nasal spray. Don't use the spray anymore so I think its filtering the bedroom well. I have set it to run at lowest setting as it goes crazy loud sometimes in Auto mode at night.

  • [Deactivated] on 24/01/2023 - 02:17
    -2

    These did rather poorly on the choice testing this year. ~60% filtering for smoke/dust vs 95% for the larger samsung unit. At the price point the kmart anko goes surprisingly well, up near 70% for dust but pants for VOC's. The Philips 3000 is far superior, but also far more expensive.

    • mrvaluepack on 24/01/2023 - 08:04
      +4

      Please tell the whole story instead of leaving out important details:

      This vs samsung you are referring to
      60% vs 95%
      270 vs 467 m3/hr CADR
      $188 vs $699

      If you get 3 of the philips one it'll not only be cheaper but have better results.

      • [Deactivated] on 24/01/2023 - 11:29

        Thats not quite how that works, and it'll also be a lot louder, while probably drawing more power.

        But sure, if you want to put 15 odd of them in an average 3 bedroom home, go nuts.

        • mrvaluepack on 24/01/2023 - 12:29

          Why not recommend this instead?

          https://iaqdirect.com.au/product/ionmax-aire-x/?gclid=Cj0KCQ…

          It has 1000 m3/hr CADR, pretty sure it'll beat the samsung by 200%.

          Or is it because Choice never reviewed it? Lol

          • [Deactivated] on 24/01/2023 - 18:38

            @mrvaluepack: They did review various models in the ionmax range. The multiple models tested were all in the mid-low range. Very noisy, energy inefficient, poor at VOC removal. As direct comparison to their peers at each price point.

            But sure, if you feel you have need of a unit capable of 260 square meters uhhhhh, go nuts. Or you could spend less, and get the tested, verified to work product. That does it much quieter, no less. It also lists UV light exposure, which is pretty debunked, as you're not killing jack shit by shining a UV light at it for a second or less.

            By the way, CADR isn't even remotely the be all and end all. You can have literally half the CADR at double the filtration efficiency and be doing a better job.

            It's pretty clear you're about halfway on the ball with all this. Could you possibly sit down at this point?

            • mrvaluepack on 24/01/2023 - 19:06

              @[Deactivated]: First you said:

              These did rather poorly on the choice testing this year. ~60% filtering for smoke/dust vs 95% for the larger samsung unit.

              Then you said:

              As direct comparison to their peers at each price point.

              So why did you start comparing the $700 samsung with this $188 philips?

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