Gaming Daughter Needs a New PC

LSlunk78 on 29/01/2023 - 19:09
Last edited 29/01/2023 - 19:54 by 1 other user

Hi guys, my 17 year old is a twitch streamer and is looking to buy a decent PC for herself.

I had my eye on this oneI'm not too sure if this is overkill for her. As I said she streams and also has a lot of other programs open while doing so, I'm not sure what, she said something about modelling software, broadcasting etc.

She has 3 screens, her main is an Acer predator. She is having a lot of lag currently with her setup trying to run all this stuff, so she just mainly wants to run everything smoothly. Not too fussed with framerates and all that jazz.

Would this rig keep her going for a few years?

Appreciate the advice.

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  • holoz0r on 29/01/2023 - 19:14
    +2

    It will be fine.

  • whatwasherproblem on 29/01/2023 - 19:17

    I'm not too sure if this is overkill for her.

    I doubt it. I'm not a gamer or a consoomer of vidya, but some of the hardware I hear about these streamers using is some pretty spiffy tech. Streaming real-time video is intensive.

  • 7ekn00 on 29/01/2023 - 19:25

    List current specs, could just need a better suited GPU …

    Streaming real-time video is intensive.

    Hardly, a single core devoted to it is more than sufficient …

    The 3080 in the above link is a bare minimum for a high frame rate Acer Predator monitor ..

    Not too fussed with framerates and all that jazz.

    Funny, as that is important for avoiding "stutter", especially game frame-rates while "streaming" ..

    • Slunk78 on 29/01/2023 - 19:28

      Ok, so you think a better card is in order?

    • Slunk78 on 29/01/2023 - 19:34

      Her current specs Ryzen 5 3500x, gtx 1650 super and 16 gig of ram.

      • 7ekn00 on 29/01/2023 - 19:36
        +11

        Then a simple GPU upgrade will make far more of a difference than any thing else …

        A CPU upgrade will help, but to a much less of an extent …

        What motherboard - it's important to work out options?

        Dropping a 5800X3D CPU and 6800XT/RTX 3080 GPU will make it a gaming / streaming beast …

        • FireRunner on 29/01/2023 - 19:41
          +1

          Will probably need a new power supply too unless the one already in it is seriously overspecced for the current configuration

          • 7ekn00 on 29/01/2023 - 19:43

            @FireRunner: Good point, I had assumed it would be fine, but given the chances of it being a pre-built, probably has a no name PSU :/

            • FireRunner on 29/01/2023 - 21:05

              @7ekn00: I was just thinking wattage. Unless it was originally built with upgrades in mind, it’s unlikely to have a 700W+ PSU in it. Quality is also a concern if it was a budget prebuilt

        • The Hawk on 30/01/2023 - 12:41

          Pretty much this ^^ although maybe some more RAM as well as 16GB gets eaten up pretty quickly.

          Although, without bargain shopping or picking different brands this gets to $2,378 and you're a motherboard away from (virtually) a whole new PC. I did go up a little on the GPU just because it's not all that much more $$ than a 3080/Ti anyway and offers better performance.

          eg (from Centrecom just because it was the first link on the first thing I searched for):
          5800X3D - $559
          Corsair VENGEANCE LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz C18 Desktop RAM - $155
          Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 Ti EAGLE 12G Graphics Card - $1,449
          Corsair RMx Series RM850x - $215

          What is the current motherboard? If it's a B350/B450 it may very well be worth looking at a new motherboard (and probably a whole new PC at that point). See if you can get some cash back by selling the old one.

          Or… the cheapest option is to just get a GPU (and PSU if you need it) and see if that solves all your problems then upgrade the other bits over time. This all really depends on your appetite/capability/comfort to DIY vs buying off the shelf.

  • MrFrugalSpend on 29/01/2023 - 21:03
    +5

    You probably need to clarify though - "lag" caused by internet connection, or poor PC performance … ?
    You can buy the best gaming rig available but if you have high latency to the servers she is on, it won't fix it.

    PS - She probably shouldn't have a bunch of other software open whilst trying to maximise gaming / streaming.

    • Slunk78 on 30/01/2023 - 07:08
      +1

      It is definitely pc lag and not network lag.
      Well, it's just a browser and stream related stuff that is open while gaming.

    • 7ekn00 on 30/01/2023 - 10:42

      Not really, a 1650Super on at least a 1440p Predator monitor will already cause stutter and lag, no real specifying needed :P

  • CodeExplode on 29/01/2023 - 22:50

    One potentially important thing, depending on her needs - right now with AI tools exploding in capability, and her doing content creation, it might payoff to stick to Nvidia cards even though the alternatives are cheaper for pure gaming. They're pretty much the only option for using these new AI tools on windows, which have been getting exponentially better in the last 6 months and are revolutionizing a lot of creator workflows with more on the horizon.

    High vram is also super valuable with these tools, but unfortunately Nvidia tends to have small vram on their cards until you hit the highest tiers.

    That being said her setup with 3 screens etc sounds like a high end professional streamer level stuff. If she's not making money off of it I don't know if you really need to aim for that, like somebody playing a hobbyist sport doesn't need national team level gear.

  • Slunk78 on 30/01/2023 - 07:11
    +5

    She is making money from it, this new pc she saved for was all from twitch earnings.

  • xylarr on 30/01/2023 - 08:39
    +1

    Does she, or do you want to get into building a PC from scratch?

  • Leiothrix on 30/01/2023 - 09:13
    +1

    What has she got now? What exact problem are you trying to fix? How does a new PC or components fix that problem?

    If she has installed piles of crapware on the computer it will run like garbage regardless of the hardware specs.

    If your internet connection is trash then you'll never get a decent stream.

    It is amazing that you're willing to throw $3000 at something when you don't even know what the problem is or if it will help.

  • User0001 on 30/01/2023 - 10:38

    What games does she stream? What resolution and frame rate does she stream at?

    A PC like one of these would be better value and likely meet her needs.

    Otherwise a GPU upgrade might be all she needs. If you do buy a new PC, you can use her old one as a dedicated streaming PC with a capture card. All that will cost her less than $3200

  • Ultimate Gattai on 31/01/2023 - 03:54
    +1

    Looks pretty good to me, the main issue seems to be that she's using a very weak GPU in her current setup, so that could be your issue, she's probably just GPU bound. As in the CPU and Ram is enough to do what you want (probably), but the GPU is already putting out all it can, so a new GPU might be the only thing you need to fix your issue.

  • Mike85 on 31/01/2023 - 04:47
    +2

    Are you interested/capable of building it yourself? If yes, check out the following…
    https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q2ypwc

    This build has:
    The previous gen 5900x. Very capable of streaming and gaming for years. The 7900x is honestly overkill.
    A slightly cheaper but basically identical CPU cooler from the same manufacturer. The 5900x uses less power and tends to run cooler than the 7900x.
    Motherboard with WiFi, good VRMs, LOTS of fan headers, good audio codec, one 4.0 and one 3.0 nvme slot. Cheaper options if WiFi is not needed.
    32GB of great-looking memory, this is as fast as it comes without spending silly amounts of $$$ for a couple percent improvements.
    1TB nvme storage that is faster than the one you are looking at. It is also rated higher for lifespan, which may be important for editing/production. Less important for gaming, but still something to consider.
    A 4070ti. Basically better than the 3080 from your list in every way, while using less power. I am not a fan of Nvidia and their pricing/product segmentation atm, but for streaming/production, they are superior to the competition.
    A slightly more expensive case, similar to the one in your list. Lots of cooling options, and lots of glass to see all the pretties.
    A new 850w power supply, that can connect to the 4070ti without using cable adapters/clutter. A 750w would be sufficient, but would be running warmer/noisier, and would not leave much room for future GPU upgrades. Additionally, the manufacturer of the power supply you listed was having some quality control issues the last couple of years. Probably fine now, but something to consider.
    4 additional fans that match the fans on the CPU cooler. 3 for the base to feed air to the GPU, and one rear exhaust fan.

    Overall, a very tidy, powerful, cool, and quiet build that will be capable for years.
    Probably costs about the same once you add freight. I believe that for the same cost, the build with the better GPU, faster storage, and better cooling potential is the better option.
    If the PC is not visible on camera, most of the lighting can be removed to save over $100, see here… https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/nKfrjZ
    And finally, if you want to trim even more fat, here's one that's $500 cheaper… https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/kMPxJM Still a mighty powerful build, but some of the "nice to have, but not necessary" options removed.

    Open a couple extra tabs and compare individual differences, any questions, fire away. Hope this helps :)

    • Slunk78 on 31/01/2023 - 09:01
      +1

      Thanks so much for your input, really helpful!

  • ReaperX22 on 01/02/2023 - 15:36

    Hi.

    Not sure if you've bought yet. But this just dropped:

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/754380

    CPU is weaker but GPU is substantially better. Just another option

    • Slunk78 on 02/02/2023 - 09:27
      +1

      Thanks mate, I saw it just before your reply and pulled the trigger, daughter is super excited!

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